/lit/ - Literature

>>13931801
>thread question

No, not at all.

The only thing I ever stuck with /sffg/ that suggested was martial god asura and it's ruining my life.

>>13931823
Which chapter are you on?

>>13931844
3700, I'm letting a few build up for marathoning purposes while I work my way through the great thief.

>tfw spirit vessel and reverend insanity went to shit

>>13931823
Swords are a terrible way of transportation.
Giant monsters are superior in any way.

>>13931801
>Have you found anything that you've really enjoyed from /sffg/? What was it?

Not personally, but it's been great to read others' impressions on books I've enjoyed. If we ever recommended something modern I might get into it more.

>>13922629
>Why is Malazan so hard to read bros?
You got through the first book so you got over the first hurdle, but two consistent issues that keep popping up for people with Malazan is the fact it's incredibly front-loaded and doesn't explain shit in the first book, as well as the fact it doesn't immediately make you familiar or get to know the characters which is something modern readers expect. It's all about relating to characters as quickly as possible today. And then the second jumps ship to another continent once again throwing you in deep.

>>13931801
Threadly Short Story Trial Run
Respond to this post with nominations

Rules
Must be 7,500 words or roughly 25 pages or less.
Anything I can't find or have provided will be disqualified in the voting round.
No self-published or anything you've personally written allowed.
Put which genre it is in ().
Example: Story - Author Name (Science Fiction)
You can put whatever you want in the () as long as it's informative.
If you want to put a short spoiler-free summary as well, you can.

Process
Thread Day 1: Nominations
Thread Day 2: Voting
Next thread Days 1&2: Discussion
After the first time, there will be ongoing nominations/voting along with the discussion.
Roughly Eastern Time Zone will be used.
In practice it'll be whenever I post the strawpoll.

A post will be provided to reply to gather all responses.

If this doesn't work out, then I'll be providing a short story that I've enjoyed until I don't feel like doing it any longer in the OP of each thread it will discussion only for that thread.

How can I tell how many words it is?
Magazines usually have word counts. Online pubs can be easily copypasted into something with word count. Physical anthologies/collections can go by the page count. If using calibre, word count can be done by using flow mode, at the upper right in the ebook viewer then highlighting the texting and copypasting it into a wordcount. You can also decrease the text size to scroll less. Otherwise, you'll just have to guess I suppose.

>>13931509
>>13931523
I actually liked the pov of the side characters a lot more than any of the mains. Mat is the best out of the mcs but they all get cucked to varying degrees.
Moiraine was best girl and the series suffers a lot when she leaves.
Lan is a fag
Perrin was the worst of all.

you ready for the monthly read, /sffg/?

>>13931907
I disagree, it's one of the many things I wish a western author could port over without making it gay.

>mfw watching that mortal engines abomination

What does everyone think of A Wizard of Earthsea? Read it this year and thought it was a 9/10

Read more S&S.

>>13932547
Sure am.

Another banger is up boys!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnFP2A4GmME

>>13932022
>let me wait till 10,000 posts have passed to answer this Malazan anon in the new thread in hopes that it continues discussion of the only book I read

Holy shit, it's actually happening! Susanna Clarke have overcome whatever meme illness she's suffering from and is releasing another book. The description makes it sound like Gormenghast set in the Jonathan Strange world.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/sep/30/jonathan-strange-and-mr-norrell-author-return-susanna-clarke-piranesi

>>13932640
back in high school teacher put it on a five page list of books we could read for extra credit. thought wth and gave it a try. couldnt put it down.

>>13932547
>we won't have non-standalone books
>except for when I say so and when I say it's okay
Nah, monthly reading anon has lost any integrity he/she could have ever claimed.

I'm a total brainlet and had know clue what the fuck was going on in Dune just now.
>Paul and Jessica slide down some sand
>somehow Jessica gets buried
>Paul finds her
>loses their pack of supplies
>dismantles some device and spits water into it
>adds spice to create foam to protect them from sand somehow?
>they start digging into sand to find the pack
>Paul continues to make foam for some fucking reason
>they run out of foam and Jessica almost gets buried again somehow
>she gets the pack and Paul pulls her out
I just couldn't picture exactly what kind of digging they were doing. I couldn't tell what angle they were digging in and why they were in danger of being buried. Does foam mean something else or were they somehow protected by bubbles the whole time? How the fuck did Jessica get buried the first time?

>>13932785
It's sweet isn't it man. The detractors said it was poor for explaining things instead of story telling, but I always thought that criticism was shit. It feels like it's telling the tale of how Ged becomes who he is super naturally and concisely. It was young adult before young adult became utter shit like it is today

>>13933073
They were on the slip side of a large dune. If you dig in on the bottom all the sand from the top slips down and buries you like an avalanche. They used foam to prevent sand from slipping at the top.

>>13933148
I don't think it actually works like Frank imagines it and he spent to long playing
with sand on a beach. But it is basically there to tell you desert be dangerous and paul crafty.

Alright sffg I need to read something spooky/gothic to get into the Halloween spirit, Ive got Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, or Perdido Street Station. Which should I go for, or any other suggestions?

>>13933350
Why do you say you want spooky, but the 2 books you mention aren't even horror?
Depending on how spooky you want it, consider Dracula, Algernon Blackwood, and Hodgson. Old good new bad.

>>13933350
The barrow
The necromancer's house

someone give me another writer like Joe Abercromie

>>13932751
It better not be like that 2nd book no one read.

>>13933627
Sanderfag who is - you might have heard - a hack.

>>13933676
is that the guy with the autistic magic rules?
also I don't like what you're implying about my boy Abercrombie

Currently reading "cities in flight", "Earthman, Come Home" is a long piece of shit. Any of the other books is good, or I will waste my life with them?

>>13932644
Recommend me some S&S

/sffg/, i think I might have created a story where the main character winning through the literal power of friendship is actually a logical and satisfying conclusion.

for context, in the setting, binding yourself to a familiar gives you a power boost proportional to the familiar's strength, but it requires a mental or emotional bond to form. the mc figures out in his darkest hour that there's no reason a familiar cant be human

>>13933769
>binding yourself to a familiar gives you a power boost proportional to the familiar's strength, but it requires a mental or emotional bond to form
sounds gay

>>13933676
Sanderhack>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Abercrombie

>>13932162
The Dowager of Bees - China Mieville (Modern Fantasy)
https://www.scribd.com/doc/317073453/Three-Moments-of-an-Explosion-50-Page-Friday - Page 28

>>13931823
>MGA
Not that great of a cultivator novel imo.
It's one of those entry-level ones where you later go "oh yeah, why did I enjoy that one again?"

>>13933859
more like that's the sentiment in retrospect for all cultivation

>>13932162
The only thing I can't find is probably magazine issues not publicly available, so in most cases don't have to provide a link to anything.

>>13933769
This isn't a write thread

>>13931869
Reverend Insanity is still great. What are you talking about? The only bad part so far was when he first got to the north.

>>13932162
Roog by PKD

>>13932162
Either make it weekly (Monday nomination, Tuesday voting, Saturday discussion) or make it <3000 words.

Ive just finished The Three-Body Problem and I dont get how it could win so many prizes. I am not saying that its a bad book, I enjoyed a lot of aspects of it, for example the comparison between the emotionless rule of the aliens and the communist movement in China. But in general I thought it left much to be desired in most other departments. Anybody here feel the same way?

>>13934047
Nah there are great cultivation novels.
MGA is just one of the mediocre yet long-running ones.

>>13934298
The voters can decide on length during the voting. I'll put the word count. I think a week to read something that is 7,500 words or less, which is what a short story is commonly defined is too much. That's the upper limit. I don't expect most to be at that length. The standard tends to be 250-300 words per page.

The first one is at most 4,000 words, 16 pages.
Roog is 1,790.

>>13932162
I forgot to mention another simple way:
http://www.isfdb.org/
On the search the database on the left, change to fiction title from name.
If it says Length: short story then it's probably fine.

>>13932644
Lift more weights.

Did anyone here read Mistborn? I just finished The Well of Ascension(2nd book) and I really really enjoyed it but Idk what to think of the third one since I heard that it isnt as good as the 2nd one.

Should I read the third book?

>>13934568
Yes, because you enjoyed the others.

>>13934568
If you actually liked book 2 then book 3 won't be an issue. Enjoy your ride.

>>13931801
There's a book or series I'm trying to remember. Don't remember much, but it involved some alien race genetically modifying the ever-loving fuck out of their enemies beyond recognition. Real body horror stuff. Anyone know the name?

>>13932547
Couldn’t get past the second book. The female main character is such an annoying cunt ALL THE TIME

>>13934664
I want to know the name of this too.

>>13934568
Definitely. If you enjoyed book 2, you will probably love book 3. I did. What a wild ride.

>>13934664
There was a guy who posted in this general at least twice about some fugged up alien lifeforms. I don't know if that was it. It was an artbook mostly.

Is this... the end for Abercrombie?

>>13935267
No, your review won't affect anything at all.

No one did it so I did.

>>13935340
wtf is this suppose to illustrate? That abercrombie is a hack that don't know shit about military history?

>>13935382
Yes, coupled with his over reliance on being gritty.

>>13935340
This reads like one of you pretentious cunts wrote it. Abercrombie is one of the better voices of genre fiction this generation.

What is the monthly reading?

>>13935246
You remember how far back it was? Can't seem to find it.

>>13935340
I absolutely adore this review, it puts a smile on my face every time I read it.

>>13935340
that's hilarious

>>13935445
See >>13932684

Where is the Wandering Inn anon? This book is a bunch of shit. I see you stopped shilling it when someone said they were going to read because you knew they would have facts about if being a wordy piece of shit that goes nowhere.

>>13935836
Female protag and I stopped reading when she left her inn

>>13935836
>>13935845
Is this some retelling of the Russian House on legs? Does the Inn move around?

>>13935887
No
It’s some bad litrpg of a girl being a modern empowered liberal woman

>>13935887
I thought it was some Howl's Moving Castle stuff, since Royalroad.

>>13935901
I'll never cease to be angry at the fact that she's written a successful story that I'm not too fond of, and I can't even write a single world I've made.

I'm literally shaking with a combination of anger and shame.

>>13935836
>that goes nowhere.
Welcome to webnovel serials

>>13935267
it's Logen, asswipe

>>13935432
kys

>>13935432
Throne of Glass is even better than that First Law shit. Fuck Off.

>>13932162
The Brick in Room 207 - Jesse Betteridge (Black Mirror-esque)

>>13932162
Short story nominations end in 1 hour.

>>13932547
>>13932684
>>13931801
New mega link
https://mega.nz/#F!Y7xnWIob!yzwlWWCF6sZ13yJzc1OC1w
To be seen how much is done with it.

>>13931801
>Have you found anything that you've really enjoyed from /sffg/? What was it?
Nothing yet, several things pending though.

>What do you think about the post rate of /sffg/?
Far too slow.

Recommend new YA. Tired of people just posting old shit like earthsea and the hobbit. Adult fantasy is just edgy garbage or politics right now

>>13931801
>>13932162
Voting
https://www.strawpoll.me/18741859

The Dowager of Bees - China Mieville (Modern Fantasy) 5,057 words
Estimated Reading Time: 24m

Roog - Philip K. Dick (Animal Protagonist) 1,790 words
Estimated Reading Time: 9m

The Brick in Room 207 - Jesse Betteridge (Black Mirror-esque) 3,054 words
Estimated Reading Time: 15m
>>13932684
This is neat.
https://www.readinglength.com/book/isbn-0765375885
Can adjust it by reading speed as well and gives a test to see what a person's reading speed is.

6h19m for Quantum Thief at 250 WPM or roughly 1 page per minute.

>>13932547
Am I allowed to read it in French, frens?
Not confident enough to read in English, I usually have to look out at least one or two words per page even in something as pleb as ASOIAF.

>>13936972
Of course you.
There's really no reason to ask.
That being said, I'm not going to look for a French version so you're on your own for that if you don't have access to it and no one provides it.

>>13935432
Ok joe

>aillas meets suldrun
>they fug
>aillas gets thrown into prison
>suldrun later gives birth
wtf that couldn't have been 9 months' worth of time

>>13934568
>>13935195
Going off of this anon, how recommended is the rest of the cosmere books if I'm currently more interested in fantasy than scifi? Where would I start? I heard Warbreaker has Nightblood, Zahel and Azure featured.

Also, how are the Elric of Melnibonne books? Worth buying a collection?

>>13932747
DAS RITE

>>13937281
>Also, how are the Elric of Melnibonne books? Worth buying a collection?
Yes. Keep in mind they're not in order and function as standalone adventurers. It's funny because Elric's actual backstory was explained in a novel released over a decade after the original stories.

>>13931801
What do you call something similar to gothic but not so grim all the time?

I've been enjoying things like Bloodborne and Curse of Strahd, but sometimes find it a bit stifling how unrelentingly morose things are. Is there anything that captures the period and themes but has a bit more balance with the brighter side of things?

The only lead I have is the Gormenghast series. Is that what I'm looking for?

>>13937542
"Baroque" maybe

Gormenghast is artsy & slow af. I doubt it's what you're looking for unless you're a hipster.

>>13937605
Well, got any other leads?

Apparently this has been picked up by Apple tv for a 10 hour ,10 episode first season.
I liked the book despite its obvious flaw but I've generally detested many of its fans, reviews on goodreads and other similar content surrounding the books.
My general experience is that fans of tv shows that are adaptions of books are almost always cancerous, has anyone else experienced this in regards to other books getting made into tv shows.

>>13937542

Try Solomon Kane

Huzzah!

>>13936867
Neal Shusterman maybe?

>>13937636
I'm a little wary. Last spring Fox did "The Passage", by Justin Cronin, and other than the name, a few character names, and the most basic part of the plot, it was nothing like the books. Nothing. I know Apple has money, but I can't see them doing this the way it should be.

>>13938388
h-h-huzzah?

>>13938482
Yeah I'm fairly certain they'll change things, not sure the what is actually in the books will be 'woke' enough for the masses who only watch TV shows.

>could have rec'd some Egan shorts
I gotta make a list for the next weekly nominations, fuggg

>>13936867
>give recs
>"no"
Go back to /v/ and headbutt a railroad spike, crossboarding newfag filth.

>>13938482
The only thing Passage about that was the name. That show was a completely different thing

>>13938388
I don't care anymore. Sanderson lost me as a reader after the slew of YA books and the bed shitting oathbreaker.
And I was one of his biggest shill for years in /lit/, not just sffg.

>>13938641
>the bed shitting oathbreaker.
What specifically killed it for you, I can't exactly say for sure what it was for except that it was really fucking long.

>>13936867
Are you underage?
>Adult fantasy is just edgy garbage or politics right now
That's because you're using traditional publishing. Reading self published books is the new way.

>>13938641
>Angry over Oathbringer

Mistborn 1 was great. Wax/Wayne was pretty good as well. Warbreaker is fantastic, Elantris isn't really that bad, especially when you consider how early into his career he was when he wrote it. The short stories in Cosmere Unbounded are some of the best things he's written. Way of Kings and Words of Radience are both amazing epic fantasy novels. But sure, he sort of shit the bed in a single book, so lets write him of forever, because he wanted to take a few years off from writing his insanely-expansive Cosmere stuff to write some YA novels.

What a fucking joke.

>>13938650
It was long, but Sanderson usually has a big pay off in the end. It was a number of factors, but I know Schizophrenic Shallan was amongst its core. I also felt a shift in his writing. When book 2 was released there was a rumor that his publisher was forcing his to be inclusive. I felt like e wasn't what he wanted to write, or some experience changed his outlook.

>>13938691
>When book 2 was released there was a rumor that his publisher was forcing his to be inclusive. I felt like e wasn't what he wanted to write, or some experience changed his outlook.
Oh shut the fuck up you idiotic moron. This never happened.

>>13938680
It's not us, that is just my opinion. I read everything Sanderson except the library books and the schizoid detective. I read all his YA. When I read he was writing Prof and the Kids, I said okay, but oathbreaker(he broke his oath to us) felt rushed, stuffed with filler, and lackluster.
It's been years since I read oathbreaker, I just remember that I would drop it.

>>13938733
Let me guess, you read skyward and all the other YA books he released instead of stormlight. Are you by chance the anon in the thread asking for YA books?

>>13938656
>Reading self published books is the new way.
oh my god just fuck off with your terrible weeb shit you shill.

>>13938691
Yeah I do now remember the Shallan personality disorder shlock started getting especially wearisome.

>>13938747
I've literally never read his YA stuff but I've also literally read everything in his Cosmere saga + his WoT books, and the only book that is mediocre or worse out of all of them is Oathbringer, and that was only because it was so unnecessarily long.

>>13938749
Where did I say read anime shit? Faggot.

Sanderson does expose himself frequently in certain areas.
Adolin is apparently supposed to have a big reputation as a philanderer but we never get shown anything to actually make us think this apart from being one of the few characters that has occasional conversations with women.
Shallan is supposed to have some great wit and be hilarious despite Sanderson failing to write her saying anything remotely funny.
Kaladin was supposed to be some stoic leader holding all the emotion inside but in the third book one of his major arcs was a generic awful love triangle.
I'll respect Sanderson because he writes all his books pretty fast and actually is willing to embark on some ridiculously long fantasy epic and finish it, but there is no doubt alot of mediocre filler gets written aswell.

>>13938388
Yeah Sanderson is great, but have you heard of Reverend Insanity??? It's like the bible but chinese.

>>13938804
>Xianxia Webnovel
literally fuck off

>>13938761
Well I read all his books short stories included except the library, wot, schizophrenia detective and anything after oathbreaker. I even read his white sands book.
Another thing Sanderson is doing is making new YA books instead of finishing rhitmatist, war breaker and the Elantris sequel he promised years ago.

>>13938804
Fuck off wandering inn shill. I already read one of your webnovels, you will not make me do a second.
I will block you at every path you take.

>>13938804
Bugmen not allowed

>>13938813
>Another thing Sanderson is doing is making new YA books instead of finishing rhitmatist
>Another thing Sanderson is doing is making new YA books instead of finishing YA books.
You're an idiot.

>>13938836

>>13938809
>>13938824
>>13938828
Triggered sanderfag samefagging so he doesn't have to confront the fact that his taste is no better than the fags who read chinkshit

Hello, it is me, Patrick.

>>13938878
do you really believe that silly shill

>>13938891
Literally takes mouse clicks to do that.
No wonder you are a sandershill, you can't een figure out that image proves nothing.
Now go read invisible dragon.

Anyways, sanderson gets mentioned = chinkshit gets mentioned
Nothing you can do about this

It's actually painful how bad web""""""""novels""""""" are

>>13938878
>living in his head rentfree because he hates an author so much

>>13938878
>>13938898

https://www.strawpoll.me/18743451

>>13938927
Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water.

>>13938922
>>13938923
oh wow, you can open an inspector, cool
>>13938915
Kinda like dostoyevsky desu

>>13938935
themoreshedrankthemoresheshaaaaaat

>>13938804
This but unironically. It's the only good xiaxia, literally the only one, and it's great! The fact that people legitimately read and discuss Will Wight, Sanderson, and Abercrombie here and not RI makes me want to vomit. Even google translated from fucking chinese it's better written than 90% of everything posted in this thread!
At it's worst, it's Prince of nothing, at it's best it's BotNS. And people refuse to read it! Laughable! Pitiful! Disgusting!

I'll readily admit every other chinese webnovel I've read is at best mildly entertaining, and usually awful. But I have read LITERAL ANIME FANFICTION better written than Sanderson!

>>13938950

>>13938960
Why's that dog got a microphone?

>>13938950
"With his Three Fundamental Views* unrighteous, the demon is reborn. An old dream in the ancient days, a new author with an identical name. An old story about a time traveler who was constantly being reborn. An eccentric world that grows, cultivates, and uses Gu. The Spring Autumn Cicada, Moonlight Gu, Liquor worm, Comprehensive Golden Light Worm, Fine Black Hair Gu, Hope Gu. . . . . . And a peerless great demon that freely acts to his heart’s content. "

Yeah, how any of you can actually read that and suggest it without being a meme is absolutely beyond me.

>>13938950
>Fang Yuan, quietly hand over the Spring Autumn Cicada and Ill give you a quick death!
>Old bastard Fang, stop attempting to resist anymore, today all of the major factions of justice have combined together just to destroy your devil lair. This place is already covered in inescapable nets, this time you will definitely be decapitated!
>Fang Yuan you damn demon, just because you wanted to cultivate the Spring Autumn Cicada, youve gone and killed thousands of people. Youve committed too many unforgivable, heinous sins!"

This is the kind of "quality" you can expect from webnovels.

>>13932626
I think swords can only work as a transportation medium if they work kinda like thor's hammer does. Point it at the target and off it goes, hope your hand doesn't slip from the handle.

Giant monsters are indeed superior. Even flying carpets.

>>13933769
Sounds gay and it isn't as original as you think.

>>13938985
>>13938995
Remember
>at it's best it's BotNS

>>13938995
>read one webnovel
>maybe try one more
>ALL WEBNOVELS ARE SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>13939057
I've looked at a solid half dozen that have been recommended in these threads. They're all about the same quality. Which is, low quality, unedited (or self-edited, so there's always a ton of glaring issues), and way long. They're trash tier soap operas in text form.

If that's the kind of stuff you like, then more power to you, but at least be aware of what it is. I enjoy schlock sword and sorcery fantasy, but I'll never act like any of it is actually any good. Ya'll treat some of the webnovels like literally the greatest things ever written by mankind.

>>13939072
Well if you actually took the time to write a proper critique, maybe your words would carry more weight. Have you tried PGTE? Mother of Learning? They are both excellently written plot-wise, and though, admittedly, the lack of proper editing can be annoying, it is not a big issue for most.
Also, being long is a selling point for some.
>webnovels like literally the greatest things ever written by mankind
No idea what you are talking about. Expect for RI poster no one ever says anything of the sort. It's impossible to properly discuss webnovels because everytime you try to do so a retard comes in and starts pretending his YA Tor-published rock-magic is somehow better.
I never claim that webnovels are anything else but entertainment, it's the S&S faggots who revel in their hypocrisy.

>>13939015
ur jus jelly

>>13938935
that's how you prepare for a colonoscopy

>>13938950
Oh for fuck's sake, go back to shilling Masters of Rome, or Throne of Glass

>>13939110
Get help.

>>13938985
>>13938995
Be honest, if you want to criticize, try reading the book first. I'd respect, not understand but respect, you not liking it after the first arc and dropping it, but you didn't even read the first chapter.

>>13939122
>implying I'm shilling
>implying I read trash like that

>>13939118
If you gotta clean out for a colonoscopy, just read Reverend Insanity, that will do it.

>>13939137
>>implying I read trash like that
yet you're hear pushing something that wishes it were as good as trash

>>13939129
Fags like you are seriously the ones I hate the most on the board.
Even assuming you are correct about whatever you think is wrong with me your message is still pointless.
At least whenever the self-published faggot comes he actually posts a few arguments on why he reads what he does. You just spam the thread with 2-word long insults, without any meaningful contribution whatsoever.
You need not respond, you absolute fucking degenerate.

>>13939110
>Well if you actually took the time to write a proper critique, maybe your words would carry more weight.
>>13939137
>but you didn't even read the first chapter.
You're right. Do you know why? Because >>13938995
>>13938995
is /literally/ the first sentences of the entire "novel". If that's how bad the first few sentences are, the ones that are supposed to hook your reader in, then I'm absolutely not going to waste my time reading 1500+ chapters of that drivel.
People on here shit on Sanderson for being dry with his prose and dropping the ball at the ends of his stories, people rip on Abercrombie for having meandering plot with a whole bunch of nothing happening and a bunch of idiotic mistakes in basic things like warfare...but at least they're written...I don't know... Properly I guess? That's the best way I can put it. They're written well, from a prose standpoint. The ways the sentences and paragraphs are structured, the way they convey what they're trying to say.
Every web novel I've tried to read that I've seen recommended here read like a high schooler in his first creative writing class thinking he's going to reinvent the genre. Every single one. Which I guess probably makes sense, given the low average age of 4chan users, but my god. They're garbage, never-ending soap opera bullshit.

>>13939196
They are all shit. You are just more used to western traditionally-published tropes and it is easier for you to tolerate them.
Also, I honestly don't understand this refusal to explicitly name the web-novels you are referencing.

>>13939196
You know it's literally written in chinese right? And you didn't actually make it to the story. It's obvious you're just trolling for replies. It takes longer to bitch about this than to actually read a few chapters.

>>13936999
It's alright, I know where to find it.
Can't stand reading an epub anyway.

>>13939258
>reading poorly translated chinese propaganda
how utterly bugmen
>>13939219
>They are all shit
thanks for finally admitting it

>>13939283
literally never implied anything else

>>13939283
>reading poorly written fantasy and thinking it's solid gold
Legitimately you don't have a soul or a brain and have never read any book written at higher than a kindergarden level if you don't appreciate RI. I have severe doubts you've ever read anything in your life if this is the limit of your attention span. On that ground, anything you say is total bullshit, you're not fooling anyone by skimming a single paragraph for translation errors.

>>13938937
>inspector on a mobile device
Do you know how apps work?
Also I know you are sad and alone and looking for (you)s. This is the last you will get from me.

>>13939318
Allright, I have read the entirety of desolate era and it was shit. Let me give this Insanity an honest try.

I wish the Mormon church had euthanized Card before he started letting ghost-writing co-authors 'continue' the Ender universe...

What the fuck is that cult good for man? I'll read more fucking Alvin Maker or Homecoming books if you shove the Mormonism down by throat yourself and don't relegate it to some lacky.

>>13939318
>thinking it's solid gold
see
>>13939072
>I enjoy schlock sword and sorcery fantasy, but I'll never act like any of it is actually any good.

>On that ground, anything you say is total bullshit, you're not fooling anyone by skimming a single paragraph for translation errors.
You're such a stupid nigger it's not even funny. I didn't skim a paragraph for translation errors. I said fuck it let's see, I opened up chapter 1, and those are literally unaltered the first few sentences from the book. It reads like absolute high school level fan fiction.

>>13939321
Jesus fuck, why do you pretend to know anything about how frontend is structured if you don't? It can be done in a number of ways, most of them requiring like 3 minutes tops.
Use a search engine before responding.

reading shit tier books is probably still more mentally stimulating than other forms of entertainment

>>13939340
Preach, brother cousin. I've been getting into reading fanfiction.net stories for a laugh. No other medium is as versatile as the written word. Horny teenage girls'horrible short stories are far more entertaining than any comedy film.

>>13939332
>I didn't skim
>I didn't read it at all! That's not skimming!
And it's legitimately a bright point in the endless dark sea of wns. Is it flawless, no, obviously it's somewhat awkwardly phrased due to translation, especially at the beginning since the translator was new, and there's a dip around book 3 where it gets a little repetitive, but that's not enough to tarnish it. The good part is the SUBSTANCE of the story, not the presentation. Don't get me wrong the presentation is good too, I especially like the descriptions in the first book, but they're not the point.

It's not like I'm going to force it down your throat, since I can't physically reach you, but we're in /sffg/ here, you've read way worse and liked it enough to come here and discuss it. I'll shill and recommend till my tongue falls out before I let you compare RI to trash like Cradle and Mistborn.

Any of you fellas read the forever war? I'm thinking about reading it next

So now that the fucking webnovel fag got people to read wandering inn and they are explaining why it's shit(showing that they read it), he is trying to push his Chinese webnovel trash?
Is this fag trying to waste as much of people's time as possible?

>>13939397
Don't bother, read Armor instead if you want scifi war. The only good part of Forever War is the ridiculous comedy section in the middle they cut out of the initial publishing.

>it's a sanderfag vs bugman thread again
Time to dip out until the next one

>>13939408
Different people, everyone knows wandering inn is a trash meme. Not even /isekai/ will read it.

>>13939333
You are good..... You made me respond.....
I'm using the chrome app faggot, where can I edit the source code? I can't even copy image address anymore, chrome locked shit down.

>>13939411
That's a shame. I already have the book on my shelf

>>13939450
I mean, I can't stop you from reading it. It's mildly entertaining in retrospect to talk about how stupid and bad it was, but I don't think that was worth the actual experience. I can get one post, MAYBE two out of shitting on it, that's what, 5 minutes max of enjoyment?

>>13939380
Want to know how we know you are Chinese?
It's sad that the tariff issue is easing up, and China is free to dedicate more people towards spreading Chinese authors and items across the world over the internet. Don't try to deny that you aren't Chinese. During the tariff fiasco yall were non-existent. Now you're shilling RI, Chinese rigged the monthly reading of September to that Chang guy, and somebody is trying to start back up three meme problem discussion a few threads ago. Yall guys are so obvious it's not funny.

I know you already know which country I'm posting from, and problem my house too. Hook me up with a cute thick Chinese gf who would make me want to better my life, and I will stop exposing you.>>13939380

>>13939325
Is this proven? He could just suck ass now. He's old af after all.

>>13939474
alright, fair enough mate. I might just read another sci-fi book on my shelf.
I have ubik and dr bloodmoney, have you read either of these?

>>13938597
If you are talking about
>>13932162
It isn't weekly, it's threadly.
Weekly seems like a long time for something that may only take ~10 minutes to read such as what's winning, with only 2 votes. I'll try a couple more times, but it isn't looking good. The purpose was to have more engagement per thread rather than having as many people as possible involved, but I wonder if either are possible.

>>13939531
I think I read part of ubik in a bookstore once. Can't rememebr a word though, I think it was pretty trippy though. Never heard of the other one.

>>13939112
Just saying that there needs to have some reasons why nobody succeeded at that before other than nobody thought of it.

>>13939494
RI is actually banned by the chinese government dude.

>>13939531
Ubik is one of the most well liked PKD novels.

>>13939527
The formic wars books are explicitly co-authored with Aaron Johnston and they're noticeably worse than anything he wrote previously. I guess that's not technically 'ghost-writing', but it's still disappointing.

>>13939183
>self-published faggot
Hey! No need to drag me (and the other guys, I'm sure there's at least two more) into this. Besides, I'm 100% straight.

>>13939579
>fishing for (You)s
how absolutely bugmen

>>13939579
He is talking about me

>>13939593
You're the gay one?

>>13938680
Jesus, shut the fuck up you histrionic faggot

>>13939597
We are all faggots here.

>>13939608
>if I'm gay everyone is gay
Uh-huh.

>>13938388
I dropped oathbringer halfway through.

Why are the majority of /sffg/ posts about books at least some anons are very vocally against?

>>13939637
Controversy begets discussion.

>>13939614
Have you ever wondered why people put fag at the end of nouns or places people came from? Litfag, fitfag, vfag, polfag, etc? Amerifag, leaffag, etc?
Here is your (you), it's the last you're getting.

If you don't want NK Jemisin to mush her kinky-haired black pussy into your mouth you don't belong on /sffg/. This is my Maginot line thou shalt never cross!

>>13939593
Anyways, here's what I read from your chart:
Great Tier:
>Daniel Black
>Cradle
>Dr. Anarchy
Good tier:
>All systems red
>Another stupid spell
Mediocre tier:
>Dungeon Born
>We are legion
>Threadbare
Garbage:
>Red Mage
>Wild Wastes
>Otherlife Dreams
>Large chests

What should I read? Zone war, and Contractor are decent. Would I enjoy them?

>>13939657
look decent*

>>13939637
There'll always be some anon that didn't like a particular book, and the more popular the book, the more likely it is someone didn't like it. I, for instance, will always shit on Michael Sullivan's Age of Myth, because it was a very shitty book.

Some books are more disliked than others, though.

>>13939648
I'm not a newfag. Having discussions and shitposting is not fishing for yous.

>tfw when you post the same thing every thread for 10+ threads and people think it's 10+ people at 10 different times rather than 1 person at 10+ times and thus think it's the dominant opinion rather than just one anon

>>13939657
Waldo Rabbit.
>Zone war, and Contractor are decent
I presume that's what you heard? I don't know about zone war, but contractor ended very disappointingly, and I, although I hear differently, I doubt the next book is coming any time soon. It's been 5 years, already.

>>13939657
You didn't like large chests? What about the sortq dark mage?
Also when reading those books be sure to get the audiobooks or ebooks. Large chest was edited, a lot of the smut in the online version was taken out or rewritten.

>>13939657
>>13939673
>>13939678
>>13939593
Your problems go far beyond that of taste.

>>13939692
>listen to my empty nothings

>>13939657
>Daniel Black / Fimbulwinter
But why?
Excerpts

Job is outsourced to Indians. Comes home to find a guy with his wife. Cuckolded. Wife blames him for everything. Law says men are automatically guilty. Off to jail. Wife divorces him and takes the house, 50% assets, 6 years alimony, and legal expenses. Hit by a truck and hospitalized. Cue slut harem in an alternate world.
>sheriff always said my blowjobs were the best
>I can make a girl's boobs grow as big as I want
>I guess fourteen is too young where you're from?
>Let us finally show you our gratitude
>She swallowed two-thirds of my length before I could blink
>team blowjob
>I love the way you taste
>her fat brown nipples...gave them a taste-test
>I'm thirty-six and you're nineteen
>sex goddess slut bomb
>I locked the crazy bitch in her own oven and roasted her
>I was awakened the next morning by a leisurely blowjob
>Did y'want to have my virginity this morning, milord?
>Fuck ma big boobies, milord!
>"Fuck me more...Fuck me forever...Fuck, yes! Make me your bitch!"

>>13939713
>look ma' i posted it again
>aren't i witty?

>>13939717
That you'd respond like that means that I'm doing something right and worthwhile.

>>13939728
(you)s usually gives one a sense of fulfillment

>>13939744
Have another then, since it's the only sense of fulfillment you'll ever have.

>>13939183
I was right, you need help.

>>13939318
50 fucking Shades of Grey is better written than RI.

>>13939318
>Legitimately you don't have a soul or a brain and have never read any book written at higher than a kindergarden level if you don't appreciate RI.


It's fitting that, in that most ridiculous of proclamations, you would attempt to insult someone's intelligence while misspelling the word of your insult.

>>13939593
I condensed it a bit for ya!

>>13939593
>talking about me
>filename means saved from 4chan
Why not original filename?

I attempted Reverend Insanity. Chinese menus with the hilariously poor descriptive grammar are better written.

>>13939988
>>13940028
I was so baffled by anyone able to understand the written word maligning the greatest story ever told that I lost control of my fingers. I can't just sit here and watch people eat horse shit while laughing at me for enjoying a T-bone steak. I'm not insulted, I'm saddened, I truly pity you people and it's my personal mission to elevate you from the sad, pathetic, gruel you call books.
This is especially aimed at you Cradle posters. Read RI and then come back and try to tell me Cradle is good, I dare you. Afterwards you'll vomit in your mouth at a single mention of Lindon. I'd say more about other xiaxia, but I don't think there's anyone here that reads them and claims they aren't utterly repugnant trash.

RI is my religion, and I'm here to preach the virtue of our lord and savior! Take the wisdom of Ren Zu into your heart, learn the truth of the world, and be free! I'm dead fucking serious that I have actually spent hours at a time considering the deep wisdom and philosophy within RI and how it applies to my life and the state of the world. I have legitimately asked myself "What would Fang Yuan do?" and altered my life choices to positive effect based on the answer.

>>13940056
>He thought it was a good faith effort and not 100% bait where anytime an anon actually reads it they cackle in glee in duping yet another anon to waste their time

>>13940056
How far did you get? By my reckoning that wasn't even a hour.

>>13940056
asian literature is basically impossible to translate and read without it sounding like a fucking mess

>>13940082
I read some last night, around 45 chapters. I wish I had the Spring Autumn Cicada so I could go back and reclaim my wasted time.

>>13940064
Oh, I get it.
You're a shitposting troll.

>>13940132
You don't have the foundation, the spring autumn cicada need nourishment from the river of chinkshit, read a hundred more chapters and once it's recovered you can make an attempt.

>>13940142
I have not lied, exaggerated, or misspoken once in any of my posts. Those are merely my legitimate honest feelings. I bring it up because I can't enjoy shitty books anymore after reading something of such quality and I want other people to talk about it with. I'm certain a dose of RI will inoculate you to many wasted years of subpar reading material.

>>13940167
Oh, so you are claiming autism.
Alright then.

>reading canticle for liebowitz
>find out mid read there's a second book
>google it to see if it's worth reading
>the first question on its goodreads page spoils the ending of the first book
t-thanks

>>13940182
You deserve it.

>>13940185
i know

If any litrpg, self-published, xianxia, etc were serious and not trolling, they'd make their own thread.

>>13931801
>Have you found anything that you've really enjoyed from /sffg/? What was it?
Yes, one series. The Thousand Names was shilled here a while back and I picked it up and enjoyed reading it. Not an amazing series, but a pretty good one. I think that's the only series I've tried on SFFG's positive recommendation that I've enjoyed, like half a dozen others that I didn't enjoy at all, and a lot of series they said were shit that were actually okay.

>>13939551
Way to shut down very idea ever

>>13933627
Luke Scull
Rob J Hayes

>>13940463
>Luke Scull
he's wayyyyyy better than Abercrombie

>>13939551
anon, ignore the idiot defending me. 4chan does as a rule shit on everything, but you aren't wrong in this regard.

why has nobody attempted it before?
probably because humans aren't native to the magical world the story takes place in. the human characters are a small colony of isekai protags who have trickled in over the years and formed a small band to survive. they bound to familiars because they thought it would work and lo and behold it did.

alternatively, here's a refined idea: bonding to a familiar doesn't just cause a mutual power boost. the relationship is possessive in nature: a familiar is basically their master's slave, hence why its not done. a minor villain they run into was actually exiled from their colony for binding a his apprentice as his familiar. what the mc does differently isn't binding a human familiar, it's him creating a mutual bond

>>13940047
It on another pc, I sffg post from my tablet.
I made it at another pc and the gimp raw file is there, I just downloaded to my sffg folder when I came home.

>>13940262
I was here first before you. Why should I go through cultivating another general for self published when it falls under sffg dogma? Here is your you.

>>13940889
actually, on second thought, scratch this whole idea. its stupid and completely tangential from what the story's supposed to be about namely, the conflict between the MC's need to prove himself as a hero and a sense of powerlessness because of his disability and weak-ass magic that leave him needing help but refusing to accept it

>tfw Sanderson will die before completing the Cosmere
>tfw Uncrowned was a disappointment
>tfw ~40% left of Desolate Era
>xboxhueg backlog of xianxia/litrpg shit while trying to balance with weird books
>tfw want to reread Blindsight soon
>tfw would settle for Sarah J. Ass sitting on my face if she'd wash the pound of makeup off

Any good books with strong bromances?

>>13941070
Lies of Locke Lemora.

>>13941172 >>13941042
This holy fuck

>>13941042
Are you gonna start giving (you)s cosmerefag?

>>13941042

>>13941228
First time I saw her I thought "so this is what chubby J Law would look like"

>>13941042
>>tfw would settle for Sarah J. Ass sitting on my face if she'd wash the pound of makeup off
you think she puts makeup on her ass?

>>13941172
What's it about?

>>13941042
>>tfw Sanderson will die before completing the Cosmere

He only fails to complete it before he croaks if he winds up finishing all other author's series after they kick the bucket, i.e. Gurm, Rothfuss.....

>>13941042
>>tfw would settle for Sarah J. Ass sitting on my face if she'd wash the pound of makeup off
Eh, I'd be outkicking my coverage if I could get Magna Cum Loudly.

>>13941228
>(age 33)
>She has written 30 novels so far in her career

Well, fuck me.

Is The Once And Future King meant to be one of those books where they deconstruct good things for the benefit of some dark god instead of just writing a wholesome book?
I'm very early in, and it seems to be so far. I don't want to fall for another of these tricks.

>>13941302
Anon, when Sanderson started the cosmere years ago, it was calculated with his publishing schedule of one book every 2 years and the breaks he envisioned, it would take 30 years for the cosmere to finish..... Now Sanderson is making it longer by writing YA books. He's not going to finish before he kicks the bucket.

>>13941302
>pretending he hasn't been writing YA nobody asked for for the last several years

>>13939397
It's pretty good.

>>13939411
Starship Troopers: War as a volunteer
Forever War: War as a conscript
Armor: War as a Hollywood action star

>>13939397
It's a one trick pony, the military fluff stands on its own pretty well, but the story itself is just a mechanism for delivering the message of veterans returning from wars and being totally alienated, which it seems to do very well. I just wish there was a bit more going on.

>>13941337
>>13941351
Come on, if Fat Fuck gave him the go ahead, ASOIAF could be finished in six months

>>13941351
well, that's pretty much what his entire career has been

>>13932644
Read more straight shota

>>13941355
>Armor: War as a Hollywood action star
Wouldn't that be Acts of Caine?

how does it feel being the only general? does it get lonely?
i'm personally grateful that this is the only one we got

>>13941355
Old Man's War: War as a volunteer for personal gains

>>13941498
It feels strange that this general of all things is being targeted by Chinese propagandists. Only possible reason why there is such persistent shilling of truly awfully written embarrassingly bad Chink webnovels.

How is this? Looks cucked.

>>13941578
Surrender your computer and serve me and I can spare your life

>>13940056
Yea that book sucks, read better xianxia

>>13941658
This does the same thing but better in every way.

>>13941578
He said, on the general for awfully written, embarrassingly bad Western fantasy.

>>13933859
>>13934392
>>13941671
If I were to read only one of those chink webnovels, which should it be?

what happened to all the nameposters that used to post here. flavoursanon, birdboi, the guy with the planes and the like

>>13941714
Martial world

>>13941719
All is transient.

>>13941719
You're using "nameposter" wrong. That would mean they put a name in the name field rather than just someone calling them that.

>>13941719
lurk mroe faggot

>>13932022
As someone who started this recently and whose first language isn't English, I honestly don't find anything hard to read beside the sometimes obscure vocabulary but even then I'm pretty sure most native speakers didn't know what the fuck "vambraced" means.
It quite baffles me to see so many people having such a hard time, is that really a modern readers thing?

>>13932022
>not even 100 pages into the story and there is a giant army with powerful mages in support fighting a floating fortress mountain
>this still manages to be boring

quite the feat

16 ways to defend a walled city is pretty good, it's pretty funny though watching the author try to come up with all these names for a setting based on what is clearly the byzantine empire hands it surroundings

>>13941719
>birdboi
As we can see, that began in Feb 2019 and the last time someone claimed to be Birdboi was in Aug 2019. However, whether it actually is him is a different matter. What is known is that he posted a google spreadsheet from which we can glean . The owner of that spreadsheet is now known. It is seen that he was active on /tg/ in 2016 and ran a Pathfinder game there and continued to post in the years to come before posting in this thread as "birdboi". From that we find another spreadsheet on /tg/ where he has gmail listed. Then by searching their gmail on the 4chan archives, it is seen what other boards he has posted his gmail. /soc/ is where the real info lies. From his /soc/ postings, which precedes all other postings as it's in 2015, he gives out his discord name, skype, kik, snapchat, age, sex, exact location, phone number, and much other information. Continued to post on /soc/ for years to come. A lot of other stuff could be said, but nah.

I'm always amazed by how freely people post their personal information on 4chan.

>>13942006
Which of course then leads outside of 4chan to his steam account, which in turn leads to his twitter, which apparently has his real name. Which in turn leads to...everything else.

All because of name reuse.
Though, this could have all been prevented by publishing the spreadsheet rather than by linking the edit version.

Alas, for privacy and security.

>>13942006
>>13942048
I've been on 4chan for 12 years and shit like this is what keeps me being a good boy. :)

>>13941498
There were other generals, /critique/, /classics/, /writing prompts/, etc. They all died because there wasn't anyone autistic enough to keep it running for months -years by himself until it became self sufficient and self sustaining, like what happened to with general.
You have to put work in to keep a general running. That includes creating your own culture, and the memes and macros to go along with it.

>>13941701
How much rape, buggering and granny sex is in rage of dragons?

>>13942104
This is 100% true. I made a general by myself for three years on a different board and it died rather quickly after I stopped making it.

>>13942104
the writing threads died because people would shit out a rough draft with zero editing and post it. there was absolutely no effort and it showed but they expected ppl to call them a genius and got assmad defensive at an actual critique. i only saw a few instances of anything worth the effort of commenting on. anyone serious about writing wouldn't bother to post their work on 4ch but find an actual writing group instead.

>>13942115
You should have made picture memes to go along with it. Without something to bind the users together, they will dissolve into the ether once their container (the general) is broken.

This is the oldest meme I made on /lit/ that I can remember. I made many more for sffg, many that had deeper meaning that played to our sense of superiority and insight into hidden messages.

>>13942190
Nah, it wouldn't have made any difference.

>>13942166
If you post your work on 4chins, you run the risk of a starving artist stealing it and selling it. Like what happened in /tv/ years ago.
The anonymous thing is not good to claim ownership of things.

>>13942202

One last thing, while I was looking in the archives, I saw this.

>>/lit/thread/S12585290#p12586883

I used to be in a IRC channel with this guy back in 2016. Certainly crazy even back then. He was banned after a while though.

It's a smaller world than we think. Who knows how often we've crossed paths elsewhere.

What components could we put together to build a Going into Books Machine?

>>13942214
I don't know what you are getting at, but it probably isn't relevant.

>>13942210
>Like what happened in /tv/ years ago.
Elaborate?

Just read Doctorow's "Little Brother", could you recommend any other author like this? Basically it is sf, but every technology used in the narrative exists, the dystopic thing gives it a good punch

>>13942166
>>13942115
>>13942104
>>13941498
I still remember when outer lit used to report us, when we were the only thread actually discussing books. I missed early sffg.

>>13935267
Pretty much everything he says he wanted is dumb pointless shit worth a short story at best. Logen and his crew between leaving Bethod and the flathead attack, for instance? We learn literally everything remotely important about that time during the trilogy.
"Love love love Ferro"? She's probably his worst major female character. Generic as fuck tough bitchy girl with speshul bow skills who don't need nobody. Easily the most boring POV in First Law trilogy.
If anything this review has made me less worried about the book being full of this kind of crap, because if the reviewer could be dumb and wrong about everything else in the rant, odds are he is about this too.

>>13942006
Tripfaggots are barely human

>>13942343
Lurk more until you find out what a tripfag is, newfag filth.

>>13942256
I'm saying you should have just tried. But what I think really saved sffg is the slowness of the board. It's why /his/ was made because a bunch of philosophy fags and humanities graduates would swarm us and get the board going sanic fast. If we had to survive in /tv/ speeds we would die.

Short Story Trial has failed due to 2 votes total, possibly from the same guy. Canceled.
Polls are also cancelled.
For reference, here are the poll questions:
https://pastebin.com/ED2Si6MR
This was the wrong approach.

>>13942352
The thread only needed to be made once a month or less.

>>13942363
Toy? PO?

What's your best medieval fantasy? Something classic about nobility and destiny and shit, like a JRPG from the 90s.

>>13939122
Masters of Rome gets shilled here? lmao
I genuinely like those books but they're not SFF so the fuck would you shill them here for

>>13941441
Nobody here read Acts of Caine

>>13942359
that poll is way too long

>>13942371
Those two are far more unlike than you'd think..

>>13942359
I only voted one time.
>surprised people didn't complete a poll with 200 fucking questions
Are you legitimately autistic, friend?

>The Monarchies of God is an epic fantasy series written by Irish author Paul Kearney. This series was published between 1995 and 2002 in five volumes. The series is noteworthy for its ruthlessness in dispatching major characters, its large number of epic battles and its use of gunpowder and cannons. Kearney also has an extensive knowledge of sailing and uses this to inform his description of naval travel and combat. The series garnered critical praise and numbers fantasy author Steven Erikson among its fans as he mentions in an interview with Neil Walsh, May 2000.[1] The series has also been criticised for its pessimism.
Is this as based as it sounds? I find it weird I had never heard of it despite being pre-2000.

>>13942402
>200 fucking questions
The nominations only had 3 choices, I don't know what you mean.

I don't even know what questions you are referring to.

>>13942416
>>13942402
Oh, you mean the linked pastebin.
That has for weekly themed polls over the course of at least 6 months.

>>13942394
2 questions per thread really isn't that much.
I entirely misunderstood that you think it was a single poll.
I assumed you'd have read the previous posts and/or threads. My mistake.

>>13942425
i haven't been on /sffg/ much lately, thought you had posted that pastebin link as a single poll.

>tfw I've been working on this shitty story about a character with flavor-based superpowers for 4 years now and I still haven't broken the 30k word mark
>tfw I should be writing tonight but I'm not

>>13942447
What do you mean by flavor based?

>>13942450
for like three of those years I was planning, the idea was that while all the other characters had powers like controlling electricity or stopping time, he was stuck with the ability to change how things taste (in some versions he also had telekinesis but it only worked on flavor compounds and was weaker than his own arm strength, which is saying something because he only has one arm)

it sounds like a shitty power, but as he learns to use it, he realizes in the hands of someone with an encyclopedic knowledge of food science and biochemistry (e.g. him) it's god-tier

examples of shit he could do:
>fill the air with smoke or pepper spray
>conjure acid from thin air
>create explosives made out of sugar
>rapidly pressurize containers of liquid causing them to burst
>turn water into burning hot ice
>make himself immune to pain and exhaustion
>control electricity
>make anything change color
>(in the telekinisis versions) control wind, smoke and fire

In the end, I dropped most of this because half the stuff required a two-paragraph chemistry lesson to justify. Now his power is just "food magic" which is a lot simpler to explain. ("how did he cut through solid steel?", "he's good with a kitchen knife!")

>>13942500
Seems like an arbitrary system that allows you to just do whatever whenever for whatever reason.

>read Wheel of time they said
>every single fucking women is a cunt
>Rand treated like trash by these manipulative women at every turn
How the fuck do you endure the cunts of this series? I miss Min

I really like fantasy when it's told in a fairy tale/allegorical way and has good prose. Are there books that would be good for me? I've looked into George MacDonald and John Crowly (Little, Big) they seem like a good bets

>>13942514
That was all posted basically every time.
You were told what you were getting into.
It's your own fault.

>>13942510
which one, the former or the latter?

in the former case, I spent years researching this shit. In the latter case, the limit is how much a person will believe and understand with a single sentence of explanation

>>13942523
I mean I get it that they are meeting royalty and arrogant wizards, but goddamn I wish it was just the River Boys adventures. Holy shit, like you bitches give Rand a fucking break. Lad is being nagged by voices inside his head and then BITCHES outside his head.

The only thing this shit going for is Rand going full circle or more madlan Mat doing luck hax

>>13942535
The former is wasted effort because it isn't hard sf so no one who reads it will care about your research.

From what I understand, which may be entirely wrong you are going with that taste is a matter of chemical reactions and that basically he has complete control over chemistry. That's a lot simpler and more accurate than saying flavor or food magic.

>"how did he cut through solid steel?", "he's good with a kitchen knife!")
Maximum handwaving

>>13942552
yeah, that was basically the concept of the former, but it would take him a while to understand the full scope of his powers and even after that he'd still only be able to use it in ways he can relate to.

the latter is still pretty limited to food-related stuff. knife-work and fire manipulation aside (both of which he would be really bad at) it would be stuff like making healing food or baking a cake without the right ingredients. The scope for the latter is way more limited, but the story adapted to suit him and actually incorporate his character arc.

now instead of being random battle shit, it's a survival setting where his powers would be insanely useful if he could just let go of his need to be a big fucking hero

>>13942589
Are you also the cookinganon?

>>13942601
yes, but I was flavoranon before I was cooking anon. That said, there was only one anon calling me flavoranon and I'm pretty sure he's finally gone now so call me whatever the hell you want

>>13941719
>>13942613

>>13942613
I'm still here flavoursanon, and still making charts.
also it seems two persons called you flavours, it's just that I would recognize you.

>>13942514
>>read Wheel of time they said
No they didn't, unless you are talking about rebbit. We tell people to stay away from it. You also told your contrary asses to don't come here to cry when you got burnt. Fuck off.

>>13942715
No. We love WoT aside from the women. This is fact

>>13942707
oh fuck, I completely forgot you were chartanon. my bad

>we, we, we, we, we
Always so many people wanting to speak for others when they only mean their own opinion.

>>13942749
but we are right

>>13942742
I'm also the anon that you refused to make the bully stick recipe for.

>>13942756 Wrong. We are directionless.

>>13942764
anon, that was just plain trolling. I didn't even need to google it to realize what you were asking for, though it did let me know that it was dried and sold as rawhide alternative.

I think the only joke suggestion I've ever taken for that game was vulture bee honey, and that was because it was so metal I was obligated to try. there's nothing metal about cow wieners

Why is it that in books or movies, it's always the stupid white couple that goes into an abandoned house, or haunted forest and end up dead? Is this a reflection of reality? Do caucasians really ha e no danger sense? Is that why so many whites are adrenaline junkies? The book I'm reading, multiple people told the white girl it was dangerous to wander away from her hill... But she wanted to explore and ended up getting fucked up by jihadists trees and knighted spiders in suits of armor.
Every book it's the stupid white couple or white girl. You don't see other people running towards a monster howl.

>>13942817
That's because White People tend to be only ones depicted. There's very little representation of anything other than white overall so of course White People Do Everything.

I think many would be shocked to see how few anons posts so many posts.

>>13942798
Okay. What about chicken embryo as a material? Day 10-11 of incubation.

>>13942835
90 posters is a decent enough amount.

>>13942838
Yes, but most of those are only 1-2 posts per poster.

>>13942826
Black movies they avoid the house with the blood curling screams.

>>13942838
Apparently this is my 45th post and I have 37 (you)s

>>13942817
>jihadists trees and knighted spiders in suits of armor.
What now?

Thread slave. We at page 8, get to work.

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>>13943226
Now compact for this time.

>>13941317
I'd rather fuck her.