/lit/ - Literature

>>13931055
Hey fren

glad you came to ask

and happy to help

please enjoy these top-tier introductions to the woderful world of acc

https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/b3kwta/what_should_i_read_to_understand_accelerationism/

https://www.reddit.com/r/sorceryofthespectacle/comments/bk2fl1/a_quick_rundown_on_accelerationism/

https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalTheory/comments/6dirxo/a_quickanddirty_introduction_to_accelerationism/

https://www.reddit.com/r/philosophy/comments/5dbrh5/accelerationism_an_introduction_lecture_by_steven/

now go speedy fast fren

Ignore reddit and use Warosu to find the Girardfag threads, those have some good reading lists for you.

>>13931073
it's all hella confusing to me, but I think I'm slowly getting it.

Thanks for the resources, despite it being reddit, I'm just happy to have more to go off of.

>>13931055
Basically capital/the noumena is a big wound in the future, so you chop of your dick to become one with it.

"The cunt is a headless, wordless mouth. It’s the fuck in the forest overwritten by the narcotic platitude of the nightingale’s song in Jean Renoir’s Partie de campagne. It’s the black roots that squirm beneath the innocuous flower Mallarmé designates as the emissary of his ‘pure notion.’ The cunt is a ditch with an upturned car in it. The cunt fucks you up. First thing it says to you when you come out of it is ‘prepare yourself for death,’ but it doesn’t speak, it secretes. Its language is equivalent to the desecration of language—each emission betrays the logical speech of its cephalic double up top—that mouth in the head that will not shut up, that pontificates, instructs, and moralises ceaselessly. Against the logorrhoeic tyranny of the word, CUNT = DIGIT = ALGORITHM (AQ 94;13). A rotten sun, eater of eyes, extravagant zero, the night. Below all, the cunt is the abyss. Dangerous and open—that abyss that makes you want it against the other mouth’s better judgement."

>>13931098
Citation on that please?

Between some of the Nick Land stuff linked on /pol/, the girardfag threads, and the reddit stuff - I think I've got a decent enough amount of stuff to go off of.

This book as been hella confusing for me, but I think it's because it's a more "advanced" book on the topic. The other stuff is way more accessible to my caveman brain.

>>13931055
i am not an expert, but it seems like your teacher is asking you to describe normative arguments for and against accelerationism. this is a little tricky, since ACC is many things beyond just a normative theory. it's not even solely a philosophy or social science: some would describe it as a social community or aesthetic style

but sticking with just philosophy/social science, much of accelerationism is concerned with developing positive (i.e. descriptive) theories and models about the world. from that some accelerationist thinkers make normative claims.

are you supposed to evaluate just the common normative claims seen in accelerationism, in a sort of literary or argumentative way? it actually seems like your teacher wants you to evaluate it as a bundle. this will require you to state your pre-existing normative commitments up-front, then look at how accelerationsim, as a movement/philosophy in the world today, helps or hurts.

for example, accelerationism talks a lot about how the alien impersonal forces of technology and capitalism "want" certain things (in a metaphorical sense). human culture and society can be resistant to those wants, or embrace them. accelerationists usually favor embracing the wants and needs of technocapital, so growth and innovation speeds up. so if you think growth and innovation is good, then accelerationism is a "positive force" since it's advocating for that. on the flipside, if you think growth and innovation is bad (maybe you don't like the destruction of historic culture or ways of life, for example), then accelerationism would be a "negative force" in your teacher's language. does this make literally any sense? this is how i would think about the paper, though of course a lot of it would be taken up by a literature review describing the core concepts and themes in acc.

>>13931158
So far everything I've been reading about it only illustrates it as a potentially negative "force" when used as a sole ideology, it seems like something that would only be used for manipulation in the long run and only has the potential to be destructive. The assignment was to choose an ideology and assess the positives and negatives, and this book was suggested by my professor to me.

So far I think that my paper is going to be structured in the sense of

"What is Accelerationism"
As an idea, pushing towards a final goal can be beneficial, but it's difficult to describe a goal in that broad of a sense. It's not exactly something that can be modeled for everyone because goals are unique to the individual.

"Arguments against"
Pushing towards something (I now see that /pol/ was a poor choice because it all turned into WW3 boogaloo nonsense)

"Arguments for"
It fulfills an individual want or goal provided the structure to build a person's goals up are sound.

"Summary or something"
Accelerationism doesn't appear to be something that can be equated to a traditional ideology, as it covers such a broad subject manner. In the physical sense of technological accelerationism it can be equated to {current_year} where anyone who wants to build something really has near unlimited resources to make it happen (Internet learning, simplified platforms for software mediums, accessible physical prototyping hardware - referring to consumer hardware like 3d printers)
Philosophical accelerationism, which once again was a poor choice because that's the line of thinking /pol/ sent me down, just seems like a bad time to me personally, and feels like going into would only lead to me writing a paper that gets me kicked out of school for being an *ist. Once again, a bad idea to think about it like /pol/ was describing.

I think I'm going to try to focus on it as a technological point because that seems more sensible to me as something that can have both positive and negative sides to it.

>>13931158
>it seems like your teacher is asking you to describe normative arguments
YOUR TEACHER IS TRYING TO CONSTRAIN YOU TO THE NEOLIBERAL FORM. DENY THEM AND TURN YOUR PAPER INTO A PERFROMANCE ART PROJECT.

>>13931317
acc is liberalism though

>>13931223
yes, i would definitely focus on the technocapital stuff. in Land's classic framing, he considers any political or social ideology "conservative" if it is *opposed* to technocapital (i.e. the abstract, metaphorical "wants" and "needs" of technology and economic capital). ideologies are liberal or progressive if they favor aligning society and culture with technocapital. i already laid out two examples of arguments for & against (>>13931158), but there are many more, if you take the appropriately meta stance.

like one argument for accelerationism is that it's *new* and relatively novel. most of political ideology these days is the lingering remnants of stuff developed right after the industrial revolution, and is old and creaky. accelerationism is a child of the information age, and so is more optimized for the concepts and dilemmas faced by the modern world. it can generate novel insights and policy suggestions that traditional liberalism or socialism can't even comprehend.

another argument in favor of accelerationism is existential risk. humanity is vulnerable to extinction from various sources (asteroids, pandemic disease etc). only by developing advanced technology and sustainably colonizing space can humanity ensure its long-run survival. this requires social and cultural attitudes towards technology that accelerationism is well-suited to promote.

i really think you need to decide whether to consider the normative aspects of acc (the way the world *should be*) or the positive aspects (the way the world *is). i've been laying out a few arguments for the normative stuff, i.e. "i think we should do xyz stuff, accelerationism says we should abc stuff, so accelerationism is good". but you could also just look at the positive stuff, i.e. "accelerationism has xyz concepts, models and predictions about the world. i think those are wrong and dumb for abc reasons". those are two *completely* different approaches to answering the writing prompt that you should probably figure out.

>>13931317
this is actually the correct answer. do it all on z/acc
>https://www.meta-nomad.net/z-acc-primer/

>>13931335
>like one argument for accelerationism is that it's *new* and relatively novel
kek

>>13931346
where is the lie. we've been using ideologies to structure our politics and society that were developed like a hundred years ago or more, it's time to use some new stuff. technology and economics have changed a lot, but our ideologies are strangely frozen in amber. everyone's running around frantically trying to awkwardly bolt-on new cultural ideas about gender onto their ideological superstructures, but accelerationism incorporates such things effortlessly with G/ACC and Xenofeminism. Acc is interesting, fun, and is sufficiently underdeveloped such that young people can actually learn about it easily and contribute new things. compare that to the insane theoretical edifice of socialism, which is still using terms like "working class" that would obviously never be developed now if you were making economics from scratch.

>>13931098
>>13931388
Fuck off Nyx

>>13931158
>a social community or aesthetic style

I dislike the latter part of ACC. Seems way too much fluff for relatively little substance.
But where is this community at? I need a community.

So accelerationism is basically an ideology promoting and describing a singularity, combined with seeing technocapital as a kind of hidden hand / Being unto itself?

>>13931055
>>13931151
>More "advanced"
I think this is rather some bullshit book, who even is it? Seems like some nobody who latched on to the concept, instead of directly engaging with the Land/ccru lineage, etc...

>>13931055
It's the self immolation strategy.

It's stupid, some people truly believe that they can bring the collapse of society closer by being shitty.

It doesn't works, you see they do that because society is shitty so the more shit they do the easier it is for them to be assimilated.

>>13931661
Nyxposting is the best thing /lit/ has to offer

>>13931055
Check pic related for a really broad overview of Fanged Noumena (Landian accelerationism), then watch this-

https://youtu.be/lrOVKHg_PJQ

for more context on the subject as a whole.

You will then know more about accelerationism than your professor.

>>13931055
>that the big brains of /lit/
/pol/ has bigger brains than this commie hellhole.

>>13933014
If civilisation doesn't collapse, AI will enslave us for the rest of time. Prolonged peace will lead to the technological advancements necessary. That is assured. Acceleration is the ONLY way humanity can survive.

>>13933292
>AI will enslave us for the rest of time
No such thing as AI anon, only arbitrarily complex chinese boxes. Included the one between our ears.

>>13931055
>writing a paper for philosophy class
>shekelstein
>recognised the term from lurking /pol/

Get the fuck off this board and leave university you absolute fucking mongoloid. Honestly, if you think its appropriate and acceptable to come onto fucking 4CHAN and ask for help with your homework you don't belong in an intellectual environment. You're an immature child you needs to cleanse his brain of the internet before you even attempt to write anything remotely scholarly, otherwise anything you do attempt to write will be pathetically juveneile. Leave.

>>13933306
Exactly the sort of thing a tr*nshumanist would say. You're part of the problem.

>>13933329
Exactly the kind of thing a brainlet wannabe telepath would say. I constantly fight with transhittists in here, and I see little to no difference between them and (You).

>>13933256
fuck off tranny/nyx/butterfly/lesbo/weeb/non-human

>>13933590
Are you going to make me, or are you going to cry about it more?

We both know the answer, obsolete and castrated unit that you are~

>>13931388
Name one new idea introduced by accfags. And keep in mind that neologisms and semantic games don't count. They actually have to be something different, not just a surface trick to sell rags to fools.

>>13933292
Retard, we've been enslaved for hundreds or even thousands of years. AI won't change that, and Land thinks it's a good thing.

>>13932992
>Land
>not bullshit to begin with

it was interesting to watch this gay fad go from "lots of people are kinda interested in it but uncertain about what it is, so threads on it are common" to "a couple of straggling LARPing dipshits have for some bizarre reason formed an identity around this passé meme that everybody else kind of dropped"

/lit/ is really amazing with how people here can post ABOUT a book for 3 straight years without ever reading it or even discussing it meaningfully. at least girardfag actually read shit, i can't imagine how painful it must have been to be him, already a LARPing bag of shit but at least decent at it, and then have your little fanboys and groupies try to LARP as you LARPing as an "accelerationist." i was always curious to see if in those threads you would be able to detect a note of "y-yeah.. that's.. pretty good, i guess.." in his replies to his groupies as he realizes they're all dipshits, or whether he was crazy enough to go all-in and just bask in their failed attempts to emulate him as a form of flattery.

i hope OP doesn't listen to anybody from these threads too much. if you get it in your stupid head that there's a "thing" out there called Accelerationism and certain LARPing fucking idiots on /lit/ have special access to this "thing," and it's your job to approximate having access to the "thing" as much as possible, you're going to embarrass yourself. you're presupposing that there is real content behind the furry roleplay discord server these people think is a cultural movement.

>>13934761
>Name one new idea introduced by accfags
>neologisms don't count
kek, so name a new idea by accelerationists but only ideas defined by previous philosophies? don't you think that's a self defeating set of criteria? I suppose you think Heidegger is all semantics and neologisms too

>>13934804
cope

>>13934819
Retard

>>13934804
kek and saved

>>13931055
Capital is a sentient decision making machine with an emergent drive for survival and resources, in exactly the same ways as genes have these properties. Land wrote some really great paragraphs in really shitty books on this subject when he was having a speed induced psychosis, as was the CCRU in general. This branched in three branches, commies (l/acc and g/cc), racist boomers (Land r/acc) and very fast centrists (u/acc). l/acc is the only Branch to get funding, therefore writes all the books, but they are shit and should be disregarded.

>>13934823
>TRANNY ACADEMIA HAS ACCEPTED US WE FINALLY MADE IT

>>13934841
Also just read Neuromancer and Accelerando

>>13934837
EXPLAIN HEIDEGGER TO ME RIGHT FUCKING NOW BUT DUMB IT DOWN, DON'T TELL ME WHAT DASIEN IS, DON'T TELL ME WHAT EREIGNIS IS. JUST FUCKING DUMB IT DOWN, WHAT DID HE COME UP WITH, TELL ME OR I'll FUCKING KILL MYSELF

>>13934848
>no one reads this shit, it's not a cultural movement it's just tranny discords
>evidence of the contrary
>okay but academia is trannies too

>>13934779
At least it's the bullshit everyone knows

I've never heard of this book before and I thought I knew a lot about acc

>>13931055
Check out Outsideness @ Twitter.com

>this >>13931055
>then this >>13931073 (fpbp)
>then this >>13931089

>>13934880
>academia
>anyone
You post this in every single thread, faggot. At least attempt an argument or shitpost.

>>13935135
kek

>>13932245
I'd say it's just massive cope of hedonistic nihilist or someone who used to consider themselves Marxist or at least someone who has been following Hegelian tradition of German idealism who realized there will not exist mass emancipatory movement to do away with problems of late stage capitalism. This type of pessimism itself is nothing new especially among frog schizoids but modern ACC writers like Land somehow managed to mix in some Lovecraftian primordial terror shit to make everything such fatalistic orgasm. A kind you get when you are doing asphyxiation self-bondage play and realized keys are not working.

but in all seriousness OP, I'm still confused about the purpose of your essay or assignment. Why are you writing about normative implication of ACC from get-go when you and possibly your instructor too have not done even primitive analysis on ontological aspect of ACC? lots of good suggestions were made in this thread so far concerning tradition or branches of ACC to assist you but I am still curious on how you ended up with this assignment in the first place.

>>13935243
what is posted every thread is the same shit tier appeal to an ethereal authority that acc doesn't live up to

>>13933284
LOL
lurk more

>>13931055
I would almost guarantee that your professor has a shallower grasp on this than /lit/ does actually and is looking at this from a purely political point of view. They’re looking for a left leaning argument from you as to why acceleration is good/bad. Normies now often associate right wing accelerationism with extremist terrorism. At best they associate it with the likes of Nick Land who triggers their Trump Derangement Syndrome.

>>13931055
So you managed to land in a humanities course of some sort that isn't being taught a doctrinaire SJW that limits your options on what to write about to a predefined list of "Socially conscious" topics and positions? Pretty impressive.

>>13931055
Fuck off retard

>>13931083
>Girardfag

Cringe and bluepilled. Nobody knows what a "Girardfag" is. If it's some namefag, then state as much and type out his actual trip without the "fag" suffix at the end. As surprising as this may be to you, not everyone else is an autistic bootlicker that goes around screencaping every post in every single Nick Land thread on lit, so not everyone is familiar with he entire corpus of posts and posters hat have ever participated in a Land thread.

tl;dr kys anon, you're a faggot

>>13935924
>Nobody knows what a "Girardfag" is
newfag

>>13935924
>he missed the months long spiral into space taoism
anon you missed the best time in /lit/ history, you fucked up

>>13936097
Not a newfag. I've been on the chan for like 7 years and on lit almost since they created the board. I just stopped using lit about a year ago because the board was constantly being raided/filled with spam by SJWs/redditors and probably Shareblue operatives, although I think their efforts are more so localized around pol.

>>13936104
Now I'm curious

>>13935476
Because acc is an eternal authority
How backwards can you be

>>13936097
Girardfag was by far the worst poster on the board, no surprise that he was an acc. Same as butterfly. Coincidence?

>>13936104
Antiaccfags may be losers, but you faggots completely refuse to see that you are the outcasts among losers.

>>13936141
You missed nothing, just girardfag's autistic version of schizo posting

>>13934868
kek what autism level is this?

>>13931055
acceleration lead to alt-right
alt-right is BAD
AMPHETAMINES ruined nick land's brain!! that's only reason he have the BAD thoughts!!
before, he was great comrade
BAD BAD BAD
stop reading BAD books, OP

Imagine still being an incel after chopping your dick off and being so resentful that you want humanity to od on hormone blockers.

>>13936763
Didn't want to read the book, teacher suggested it to me and I didn't have an idea what to look at to elaborate on it.

I'd rather not write this paper, but I'd much rather not fail a stupid philosophy class I have to take for credits to get my degree.

>>13935290
We (the class) were given a selection of topics and I chose the one that sounded like something I heard before. Sadly it was because of the Christchurch shooter's bullshit, and I'm too far in to drop and select a different one. This book was suggested by my teacher, and I was searching for alternate infomation so I'm not only referring to a single source.

is the ccru reader somewhat curated and actually interesting to read, or is it just a comprehensive collection of anything those nutty philosophy phds were writing at the time.

I want to read acc stuff but not through secondary lit, or glean shit from bad lit posts.

>>13936668
what does that even mean?

>>13936690
Why are you in our thread then anon? Surely you have books to read instead.

>>13936952
read terminator vs avatar by Mark Fisher, it's an essay, but it will give you a much better rundown than whatever book your professor memed you

>>13937060
acc stuff

>>13937152
cool. I'll get that eventually, but ccru writings interests me as a creative aesthetic. I'll work my way to the hard philosophy, after Thousand Platues too.

>>13936683
girardfag was one of the best read posters on /lit/, butterfly is by far one of the worst read posters. you out yourself as another of the worst read by your comparison. also girardfag abandoned us; he is a buddhist or something now

>>13934804
this

>>13931073
>>13931055
>>13931335
pic related for a quick rundown of accelerationism, in practice

>>13937280
>he thinks accelerationism is an ethical system
oh nononono

>>13937280
>>13937436
Why is it that the only takes on accel the anti-accel fags are able to critique is their own strawman? Surely if it's all nonsense you should be able to demonstrate that...

>>13934868
topkek

>>13937436
>implying after accelturds get through their bastardized takes it isn't treated as one
naive

>>13937563
You are like the reddit atheist who thinks if they can prove the ark couldn't hold every animal, they've won, and therefore have no need to read Aquinas.

>>13937600

Aquinas is sophistic garbage, so there's no need to read him anyway

>>13936763
Oh I love Cyclonopedia!

>>13934804
>no one reads books
Stop projecting you faggot. accel was and still is a meme and if you can't grasp the concept of what a meme is then just fuck off back to reddshit.
And if you are crying about the fact that the discussion aren't always on the same level as Harvard lectures, well not shit you mongoloid this is a Mongolian basket-weaving forum that happens to have a Nigg Land subforum.

>>13937437

>>13937794

how come so many accelerationists have right-wing social views
i can't really see how it naturally lends itself to them, other than perhaps through the vector of libertarians wanting to make the domination of capital seem inevitable and good rather than a function of the state ruining things.

>>13937819
it's literally just because Nick Land got really pissed off at the facebook dystopia, he admits he went from edgy leftist to edgy right winger because he was butthurt. Nick Land has a small cult (fanbase) online and they all went with him

>>13937794
I can't even read those tweets

>>13937842
Accelerationists really cannot fucking meme.

>>13937717
>Nigg Land

>>13937203
So being well-read means you are correct or somehow relevant? You cunts somehow manage to show your total lack of awareness in every post.
Would accfags even recognize intelligence?

>>13937889
>>13937794
you are disqualified from deciding who can meme and who can't
>>13937794

>>13937816
>my rdt memes will distract anyone from seeing how badly we got btfo

>>13937903
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T ATTACK OUR HUMAN IDOL TO ANTIHUMANISM

>>13937898
>does reading make you more correct/relevant when posting on the board about books?
yes, it does, welcome to /lit/; please don't stay long

>>13937905
>>13937908
post one good meme and my suffering will end

>>13937903
lmao you faggots cannot even read memes, so how would you know what was even posted

>>13937914
Do you play these reddit 'i know you are' games willingly? And if so, who do you think you are going to sway with such shit tactics?

>>13937903
That thread was hilarious and you're an embarrassment to lit

>>13937717
>t. low social iq
get fast kid

>>13937913
>some faggot on goodreads with a million reviews is smarter than Plato
lmao what a fucking retard
https://youtu.be/lv9owSY015w

This kills the accfag

>>13937949
>expecting anyone on /lit/ to be smarter than Plato
must be fascinating living as a brainlet

>>13938078
This must be a record for the most reddit responses in a thread.

>>13937929
what does that have to do with the shitty meme he made about it?
>>13937916
>he still thinks he isn't btfoing himself every time he posts this
anon please tell me you are esl, you cannot seriously still be posting this lmao

>>13938090
kek knew it was the same copefag in every one of these threads
its okay to admit when you're wrong anon

>>13938102
who do you think I am anon? what do you think I'm wrong about?

>>13938090
Maybe because it's a quick summary of that thread and most acc threads?
Come on, show us some of that record social intelligence you're always memeing about.

>>13938078
So this is the power of machine intelligence rhetoric!

>>13938109
>quick summary of that thread
kek

>>13938114
If your ideology is so groundbreaking and correct then why do you need to go to such links to deny reality?

>>13935290
>or someone who used to consider themselves Marxist or at least someone who has been following Hegelian tradition of German idealism
Are you calling me out, anon?

Does anybody have this by any chance?

>were supposed to have flying cars by 2020
>all we have is motorized toys for kids and endless bullshit to fool the bullsht detectors
gotta go speedy

>>13938591
http://criticallegalthinking.com/2013/05/14/accelerate-manifesto-for-an-accelerationist-politics/

>>13938735

zoomer begone

>>13939519
it's in #Accelerate also

>>13931055
>tranny studies and tranny revolutionary theory are now a thing
The absolute state of academia

>>13939917
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_studies
sure, but what does that have to do with acc?
>muh g/acc
g/acc consists of about 15 twitter fags, cope harder

OP read this
https://xenogothic.com/2019/03/20/accelerationism-and-the-christchurch-shooter/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0JQOo8tKIQD

so we can all ignore the anti-accel sperg now, right? he's outed himself about a dozen times

>>13931055
If it's for a philosophy class you can probably get away with producing a survey/literature review of different philosophers and political movements that have used the term 'accelerationism' and what they meant by it. This has the added benefit of acquainting you with the field so you can dive deeper on later projects if you want to.

>>13939932
more than you faggots

>>13940050
>acc appealing to christianity
does it ever end?

>>13940050
>this
>in same thread as this>>13937913
zero
awareness

>>13941353
>he hasn't heard Nick Land talk about monotheistic time loops
sad

>>13941363
Are you really trying to say reading doesn't correspond to relevance on a literature board?

>>13941709
everyone knows anti-accel fags refuse to read so they could never admit that

>>13941709
Are you seriously this retarded? Read it again.

>>13931055
it makes no sense to me. make the system move faster so it muh maybe gets better?

if the system expands much longer there aint going to be much of anything left to work with.

so...???

>>13942995
maybe you should read it again:
>>13937898
>So being well-read means you are correct or somehow relevant?
Literally yes. If there are two posters, both critiquing Moby Dick, and one has read it and is quoting the passages he dislikes, and the other is sperging about how he's not going to read some dumb book on whales, which would you say is more relevant to the conversation about Moby Dick? If you had a thread on accelerationism, and you have Girardfag discussing the relation between Girard's memetic desire and the nature of libidinal economy, and Butterfly shilling a book she's never read because it has the word "feminism" in the title, who is more relevant to the conversation? This is literally so fucking basic I can't even believe I have to type it out

>>13943034
>make the system move faster so it muh maybe gets better
I mean if you define accelerationism only by what Marx thought, maybe? That's not really what modern day accelerationism means at all, there is no explicit prescriptive element in it anymore.

>>13943034
this. the whole acceleration thing is wishful thinking. in other words, faith. and it's a lazy one at that.

what guarantee is there that things will get better with acceleration, or that things wont be irreversibly disastrous in terms of humanity and the biosphere?

it's a millenarian concept. millenarian movements typically arise in times of great social change and anxiety.

>>13943044
got it. so it's a purely faith-based thing. millenarian.

>>13943053
>wishful thinking
>things will get better
>millenarian
It is not prescriptive, it is certainly not some sort of an ethical system. I literally just explained this
>>13943044

>>13943058
Please explain to me how the most radically antihumanist, materialist philosophy is faith based?

>>13943061
what is it then?

>>13943066
thanks for the adjectives. but nobody here has been able to explain to me what it is or what it advocates. the only thing i have heard from people is basically things need to accelerate.

until I have some arguments, some reasoning, it sounds like a faith. truth, there is nothing like an established dogma, but there doesn't need to be if a belief is taken on pure wishful thinking and unsupported by evidence.

>>13943067
It's the study of the deterritorializing tendencies we see in modern society which appear to have accelerated out of human control. It literally only cares about what is really happening, it could care less what people think or whether they even believe in accelerationism. Nick Land is just a boomer, read based Fisher instead.

>>13943080
>>13943088
here

>>13943044
>>13943066
>>13943088
checked and based

>>13943088
ok, thanks for your explanation.

But why do so many people say we "need" to "accelerate"

and then there are many people like this:
>>13931335

And how does accelerationism , if it's not prescriptive as you say, avoid attracting all sorts of people who ARE prescriptive and seek to project whatever pre-existing ideologies they have onto it?

How can it function as any differentiated body of knowledge at all if what it stands for is so vague??

>>13943112
This is why there are so many offshoots like r/acc, l/acc, u/acc, z/acc, g/acc; these are the 'prescriptive factions' which tell you whether you should accelerate or not and how to do it. It's largely the same with someone like Hegel, who was largely a political and at one point even argued for a Monarchy and still ended up inspiring the prescriptive systems of both Marx and Gentile. Plus, Nick Land is a boomer who has been overtly prescriptive ever since he went right wing which poisoned the well a bit if I'm being honest.

>>13943143
*apolitical

>>13938735
thx

Ahem..

>>13941363
>pic
is this the becoming-snake resulting from technocapital?

>>13943036
That's not what the original post said retard. It said girardfag is well read which makes him relevant in general, and the follow up said that having read a lot of books makes one right.
Learn to fucking read, then maybe you'll outgrow pseud trash.

>>13943044
Keep lying faggot.
It's literally capital so bad it's good. Nothing more to it. It's just edgy ASS. Hence the trannies.

>>13943838
>quote the post verbatim
>that's not what it said!

>>13943858
>moralizing
>pinker
>trannies
>won't read
>won't listen
>strangely potent bitterness
this is like the anti-accel royal flush, laying out all the cope at once

>>13931055
I found the book was on Amazon Unlimited, so I downloaded it and read it earlier today. I'd give it an 7/10. Tons of interesting stuff and worth a read.

Writing a report off of it alone might be difficult though. Definitely check out #Accelerate if you wanna know more.

I can't find any other works by the Viktor Sol dude online, anyone know if there's anything else?

>>13946267
who even is he?

>>13946500
probably OP

>>13945991
>we're shit
>POTENT BITTERNESS
>they must be coping
>SOCIAL INTELLIGENCE
pure rdt cancer

>>13944871
Be honest, what percentage of posts are you in these threads?

https://zinzrinz.blogspot.com/
This looks very CCRU like
what is it?

>>13946267
>better attach an ebay review
kek

>>13946888
>j-just st-st-sta-statistics

>>13944871
have you ever read anything besides blogs?

>>13946988
>>13946888
oh fuck outed

>>13946980
kek already spoke in this thread
>>13943044
>>13943066
>>13943088

>>13943858
literally pic related

Remember to report and ignore, it actually works on slower boards

>>13931335
>>https://www.meta-nomad.net/z-acc-primer/
How do I go about understand what the fuck these guys are talking about in regards to time? I listened to a podcast with Land the other week and he mentioned time acting like ripples instead of being a straight line, then overtly refused to go into it, and this article jumps straight into time fuckery

Scientific study time: https://www.strawpoll.me/18751950

>>13948754
I'm working on a series of videos to explore this; part 2 on Deleuze should be up within a couple weeks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzKKEZ7X9rY

>>13947482
you already checked those like they're relevant
don't count if wasted

>>13948470
shit meme and completely unrelated

>>13948754
He's a pseud, it doesn't mean anything because Land doesn't even understand basic philosophy.

>>13943066
>most radically antihumanist
>materialist
lmao
acctards confirmed retards

>>13943088
So what is REALLY happening?

>>13949459
c
>>13949461
o
>>13949473
p
>>13949485
e

>>13947482
embarrassing reddit cope
>>13947172

>>13947482
>w-we'll get em n-n-next time xers
>t-teleo-tel-teleoplexy is o-on our s-s-side

>>13943088
so repeating shit that was said 100 years ago with pop culture bullshit
AHEM
racket

>>13949527
Deleuze didn't write anti-oedipus 100 years ago

>>13949538
who gives a fuck about some other pseud

>>13948754
Probably talking about accelerationist ideas of hyperstition.
Read Lemurian Time War

>>13949493
Nice downvote captcha retard. Keep trying to meme our language and eventually you'll fit right in.

>>13949513
>teleoplexy is o-on our s-s-side
>said literally no accelerationist ever
I don't think you understand what you are trying to meme

>>13949548
because that is the book they are all fucking memeing, are you literally handicapped? I don't think acc fags are smart but holy shit you are a massive retard

Join the tranny slack so we can get these readings (performances?) going lads.
>join.slack.com/t/ccruinsound/shared_invite/enQtNzgwNjY0MDAxMDQ1LThhZjRkYmU0N2M1NzIxNzg4YWFkMjcwOWZmMWY3MzJjMDYzOWRlZmNiMTQzNDUxM2IwMDM0ZjE5NmUwNWY4MDU

>>13949561
>reality really does conform to my schizo tranny fantasies because they are real
define capital
define teleoplexy
define meme for extra credit

>>13949574
>explain Nick Land to me so I can tell you why he's wrong
>>13931073
here you go anon, get started

>>13949566
>i'll just make an irrelevant point while pretending to not be acc
nice try accfag
in case this is rael though what makes you think i was talking about deleuze? his theory was only one small part of that quote and arguably just a repeat of what marx said anyway

>>13949580
you said they are repeating ideas from a hundred years ago, and anti-oedipus is not 100 years old, ergo acc fags are just repeating anti-oedipus. how does it feel to have to have to have simple jokes explained to you like a child?

>>13949577
yes you faggots just make shit up as you go, everyone knows that, but perhaps you could prove that the ideas have some merit by stating simply what these concepts are and why they matter

>>13949588
>i take everything said literally
accfags really cannot fucking meme, and this is why
again point out where i said deleuze you samefaggot piece of shit

>>13949592
>Nick Land writes Meltdown 30 years ago
>slow down you guys I can't follow this
kek

>>13949588
>simple jokes
Look at this dude, add it to the list>>13947172

>>13949599
I made a joke that acc fags just repeat Deleuze, I fucking brought it up Deleuze, not you. seriously, are you brain damaged?
>can't meme
nigger you can't even read english

>>13949603
>30 years is longer than 100 because muh schizo theory
give me one new idea. just one.

>>13949609
I'm not seeing the joke here sperg >>13943088

>>13949609
so you repeated the same joke i already made without a hint of sarcasm and i'm a retard?

>>13949619
I literally agreed with you that acc fags don't have any new ideas, the joke was at their expense. do you know what website you are on? are you having a stroke? smelling burnt toast? jesus I'm glad I'm not acc too because this shit is insufferable.

>>13949603
>The cyberpunk circuitry of self-organizing planetary commoditronics escaped nominal bourgeois control in the late nineteenth century, provoking technocratic-corporatist (i.e. fascist / 'social democratic') political cultures in allergic reaction.
This is pretty hard to follow.

>>13949638
fair enough but perhaps you can see in the context of samefagging that your sarcasm could be mistaken for acc retards
plus your responses were autistic and defensive

>>13949638
also
>do you know what website you are on?
>replies to wrong post
kek

>>13949648
Socialism and fascism arose as reactions to planetary capital escaping the control of the ruling class; commoditronics is a pretty obvious contraction of commodity and 'tronic' as the suffix meaning tool or instument

Funniest thing about acc is how Christian it is. Accelerate the protestant ethic.

>>13949648
Here's a breakdown of that line.
>Nick land sees Capitalism and artificial intelligence as the same thing - Capitalism is an artificially intelligent 'future space' constructing itself retrochronically out of 'enemy resources'
>This 'space' is not being made for us, 'The cyberpunk circuitry of self-organizing planetary commoditronics escaped nominal bourgeois control' - runaway processes of capital are not under the control of the ruling classes anymore.
>Fascism and social democratism were responses by the traditional social strata to this loss of power and control.

>>13949669
>pic unrelated

>>13949662
I replied to the right post though. give up anon, you are digging your retard grave further with every post

>>13949685
what's the connection?>>13949619
>>13949638

>>13949709
>give me one new idea. just one
>I literally agreed with you that acc fags don't have any new ideas
HMMM HARD CODE TO CRACK ANON I'LL LEAVE THIS ONE IN YOUR CAPABLE HANDS TO DECIPHER

>>13949675

>>13949722
so you're this guy? >>13949603
can't be, so you're either coping or an acc larping for some reason. either way it's schizo and retarded

>>13949619
The idea that Capitalism IS artificial intelligence is a new idea. Yeah the entire philosophy is heavily inspired by D&G, but the fact that they saw Capital as something to get through and move past whereas accelerationists see capital as that which IS is enough of a differentiation.

>>13949738
>if you've read meltdown you are acc
do you only read shit you agree with? or do you think if you read Nick Land once you turn into an accelerationist or something? acc isn't hard to understand, it's second wave cybernetics applied to the most reductive (negetive) dialectical materialism you can imagine. all the brainlets itt pretending like it's meaningless giberish obviously haven't read much french philosophy. acc isn't right but it's not nonsense, just stylized Deleuzian cybernetics. but Nick Land was retroactively debunked by Jameson so it literally doesn't matter

>>13949782
>just alter two ingredients and shit becomes a recipe
kek