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ITT: We recommend great Chinese literature in honor of 庆祝中华人民共和国成立70周年活动

>> No.13914896

>people's
>""""""""""""republic""""""""""""
the absolute state of you, Chang

>> No.13914971
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>>13914874
Fuck off Ching chong

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Pooh

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>> No.13914994

>>13914874

Little Red Book, Governance of China, various bureaucratic non-literature along these lines (the Three Represents and the 50 volumes on same, etc).

>> No.13915005

>>13914874
Fish can't leave the water, nor melons leave the vine

https://youtu.be/-J5CQ5wwMSo

>> No.13915011

I'd rather be Chinese than a septic tank

>> No.13915016

动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

>> No.13915080
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Did Confucianism survive the cultural revolution?

>> No.13915087

>>13915080
Didn't the red guards lynch one of his supposed descendants and desecrated his grave?

>> No.13915089
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>> No.13915092

Pee pee in the coke

>> No.13915120

>>13914985
I don't get this meme. They don't look simillar, at all.

>> No.13915178

>>13915087
Yeah, here's a nice quote from Mao
>He [Qin Shi Huang] buried 460 scholars alive - we have buried 46,000 scholars alive, [...] You [intellectuals] revile us for being Qin Shi Huangs. You are wrong. We have surpassed Qin Shi Huang a hundredfold.

>> No.13915418

>>13915080
Yes, as much as they tried to erase all Chinese culture.
The cultural revolution has been over for some time. A very large part of upper members of the party is made of descendents of aristocrats.

>> No.13915427

>>13914874
Is there any generally good early communist era literature?

Its kind of weird that you can't find any on any best read list when Russian communist lit was so good. Are the Chinese just inept or do we just not want to acknowledge the value of a current Western enemy?

>> No.13915921

>>13915427
I don't know. Just read 'To Live' by Yu Hua recently

>> No.13915924

>>13915427
Mao's poetry is said to be good but I don't know if that praise is politically motivated or not.

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>>13915924
Mao is /lit/, /fa/, /pol/ and shizo. Unironically a great person which I respect. He shouldn't have poked his nose in things he had no understanding of.

>> No.13915968

>>13915120
He a idiot xi got upset on some memes and banned pooh since that xi = pooh,

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>>13914874
Great guys spread the word hail Hitler Ccp is doing their part

>> No.13915989

중국 개...

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>>13914874
Not holding my breath for any good literature other than the Tao Te Ching to come out of China

>> No.13917086

>>13915089
Why's that matter? Dead bodies are just clumps of cells.

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>>13914874

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I can smell amerilard butthurt in this thread

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>tfw no flat-chested, /lit/+/fa/, high-IQ Chinese gf

>> No.13917397

The Four Great Novels (Water Margin, Three Kingdom, Journey to the West, Dream of the Red Chamber) are a given. (Plus Wu Jingzi's The Unofficial History of the Forest of the Scholars. Or simply, just "Scholars", which is a novel, but of lesser importance from the same era.)

From the modern era, I like Lao She's writings the best. Teahouse isn't really his best. Get some short stories from him. (He was a victim of the Cultural Revolution, despite being sort of left-wing. The readguards beat him up, and burned his library. He then drowned himself in the nearby river.)

Gao Xingjian won a Nobel for his "Soul Mountain", and rightly so. It's a beautiful book. The descriptions are breathtaking, and it feels more "dreamlike" than most Chinese literature. There is some real magic to it. You could call it "Magic Mountain", but that's make it another Chinese knock-off.

Some of Wang Meng's novellas and short stories are also interesting.

If you are into insane postmodernism and complex novels, then Mo Yan's "The Republic of Wine" is a good read. The story is captivating and will make you think
.
Another interesting contemporary author is Yu Hua. He started writing after the Cultural revolution. Afaik he originally wrote really bloody and brutal stories, but lately turned to writing on historical subject. His essay collection "China in Ten Words" is really good if you want to get a perspective on how people lived and grew up under Mao. (He shills his novel, "Brothers" throughout the essays, so I guess that's the one he is most proud of. Haven't read it myself yet.)

Eileen Chang wrote mainly about the decadence of Shanghai. I didn't really like her novella "Lust, Caution". For some reason it felt unnecessarily convoluted. Though that might just be because she worked on it on and off for decades.
One thing I hand to her, she is good at summoning the atmosphere of the roaring 20's.

Lu Xun is credited as the "Father of Modern Chinese Literature", and thankfully he died before the PRC was established, lending him some artistic freedoms, without having to join the choir glorying Mao. (Catman himself said that he'd have made Lu "disappear" if he hadn't died earlier.)
Personally I don't like his fiction. "The Real Story of Ah-Q" feels more like a political piece that's important for its historical context, rather than for its artistic merits.
His essays are top notch though, if a bit communistic at times.

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Is the Marx anime any good?

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>>13914979
>>13914874
>>13914971
>>13915016
>>13915178
>>13915940
>>13915973
the absoloute state of tankies and dengists

>> No.13917493

>>13917477
not an argument

>> No.13917511

>>13917446
No, it's boring as Hell. Watch Young Karl Marx instead or the Trotsky miniseries from Russia.

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>>13917446
>sabre
>foil lame
>lame before electric fencing even existed
>zipper before zippers even existed
>lame boots?

>> No.13919438

>>13915087
>Questioning the righteous deeds of The People's Republic of China
Minus 1,000 social karma!

>> No.13919453

>>13916312
4 Great Classics
Analects
Mencius
Huainanzi
Zhuangzhi
Lieh-Tzu
The alchemy texts of the Daozhang if you really want to go balls deep in Taoism

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毛万岁!

>> No.13919637

>>13914874
unironically fuck hong kong and lol at them asking donald trump to help them only for him to celebrate china

>> No.13919685

>>13917446
Its fucking awful. It waters down or reverses everything that made him such a compelling and interesting figure.

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>>13917317
Please tell me that she has a penis

>> No.13919702

>this entire thread
Tick tock, 0 cent army

>> No.13919731

>>13919637
haha

>> No.13920920

When are they going to excavate the tomb of the emperor of Qin? I want to see it.

>> No.13921496

>>13917397
>>13919453
>4 Great Classics
Water Margin reads like fucking Dragonball Z. But thanks for the recs & high-quality post.

>> No.13921516

>>13917493
It is pretty clearly an argument that the modern conception of the state is contributing to the repeated failures of communist societies to function.
The argument may be laid out in an abstract way, but stating that there is no argument at all is silly.

>> No.13921830

>>13919155

>> No.13921834

>10 social credit point have been deposited into you are account

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>>13917493
This was unironically Bakunin's argument. No wonder that anon thought this >>13914971 was a good post.

>> No.13921895

>>13921496
Afaik Toriyama loosely based the original DB on Journey to the West, so it’s not a bad comparison per se

>> No.13922487

>Half of the thread is just /int/ shitposting

>> No.13922944

Thank you for chinese gay porn, comrades. I can't stop reading it

>> No.13923010

>>13915016
based

>> No.13924330

>>13921834
haha