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something something persia

Shahnameh
One Thousand and One Nights
Avesta

Thus Spoke Zoroaster

>>13909441
Faramarz Aslanı is a fantastic Persian musician. Im certain his lyrics are poetic.

Sadegh Hedayat's The Blind Owl

>>13909782
Good rec, thanks

Rubáiyát of Omar Khayy ́am

Just a poem though.

Anything you can get your hands on by Sohrab Sepehri
Masnavi
Divane Hafez
The Blind Owl

>>13909441
Persepolis

>>13909441
I hope the situation in Iran ends gets better and for all. They seem so be good guys with good literature and films as well. Certainly more Western that the rest of the Middle East.

>>13909441

>>13909441
I hope the situation in Iran ends and Iran gets better and for all. They seem to be good guys with good literature and films as well. Certainly more Western that the rest of the Middle East.

Conference of the Birds

>>13910393
>Certainly more Western that the rest of the Middle East.
shut the fuck up you dumb mutt

>>13910416
Make me, faggot.

>>13910393
I'm sure there are self-loathing iranians who love to think of themselves as western, but the sociopolitical landscape of iran is nowhere near "western", pal.

Also, the most based iranian poetry is rooted in the sufi idea understanding and seeing through material existence in order to achieve unity with god. I think you could say it's a vaguely platonic idea and dudes like rumi and hafez definitely read plato, but "western"?
Film came from the west. Books didn't.

>>13910507
I said more Western than the rest of the region, not as Westerm as the West. Pic related was Iran in the 60s before the revolution.

>>13909441
The man who would be king Kipling

>>13910517
I somewhat agree, but pictures don't tell the whole story.
pic related, kabul 1972

>>13910517
So by western you mean late capitalist pop culture

>>13910517
I'm glad women can't dress like this anymore in Iran. They're country is making progress while the West is devolving into deeper degeneracy and filth. The fact that women are even legally allowed to go out dressed like pic related shows a completely immoral and barbaric society.

>>13910944
A middle ground would be alright. No need to dress like whores but also not like ninjas. Either case sexually progressive societies have us mathematics, science and art, while sexually regressive societies gave us the dark ages.

>>13910944
>NOOOO YOU CANT LOOK SEXY STOP IT IT MAKES ME SAD
LMAO seethe harder incel. You won’t ever get this booty ;)

>>13910944
those are nice tits, faggot. you're lucky you get to see as much as you can.

>>13910959
Although people are blind to it today, the so-called "dark ages" are the periods of history when God's light shone brightest on humanity.

>>13910970
>>13910967
You are thinking like animals, not human beings. I pray that God will show you the true path and free you from the darkness in which you have been hiding from Him.

>>13910998
Begone Mudslime. /lit/ is a Christian board.

>>13910998
>God creates nice tits and lust
>he doesn’t make it so that it is impossible to be sexually attracted to someone unless you’re married
>now he proposes to “free” me of this “sin” he put inside me by shackling my penis
Not a god I respect. Zeus will rain thunderbolts down on allahs turban while one of his mistresses sucks him off.

>>13910959
Iran IS the middle ground. They aren't dressed like ninjas. They wear scarfs, but loosely, still showing off the hair. Modest, yet beautiful
>>13910998
Amen
>>13911010
Lust is a sin

>>13910944
fuck off mohammed

>>13911350
fuck off kike
You can't be friends with both GulfArabs/Jews and Iranians. You have to pick either GulfArabs/Jews (same thing) OR Iranians.

>>13911031
Zoroastrians were even more obsessed with purity, dumb fucker. Anti-degeneracy is an important part of Iranian culture since pre-Islamic times.

>>13911031
"God did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."
- Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini

>>13911606
Kartir Hangirpe said similar things.
I prefer Kartir Hangirpe because Iranian identity is inextricably tied with Zoroastrianism. The issue with Islam is it is anti-Persian, which is why it won't survive in Iran. A lot of Abrahamic faiths did take influence from Zoroastrianism though (e.g., angels & demons, praying five times a day, afterlife of heaven or hell, etc.)
It's normal in the modern West to make levity out of peoples' suffering (e.g., black humor, sarcasm, etc.), but such things didn't exist in Pre-Islamic Iran either.
If it were up to me, I would just let Turks rule over the Gulf Arabs and Levantines again whereas Iranians would refocus on reuniting Turan (i.e., Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, etc.)
Even Turks could do a better job ruling over Israel than Jews themselves.

>>13911652
Very based, I agree

>>13913030
I actually want Iran to become Zoroastrian and isolate plus distance itself from the West more though.

Cyclonopedia
Intelligence and Spirit

My Uncle Napoleon is the only right answer.

>>13913074
>I actually want Iran to become Zoroastrian
That's not how you spell Orthodox
>and isolate plus distance itself from the West
Understandable

>>13913263
I don't like Christianity or Islam.

>>13913287
Too bad. What draws you towards the fire, so to speak?

>>13910517
>using picture of persian sluts to justify erroneous statement about iranian culture

>>13910944
You do realise that after Thailand Iran is the world capital for sex change operations right? Likewise they also allow temporary marriage for the sake of prostitution. Is that progress ?

House of Gaudy Gold Decor

>>13909441
For philosophy, anything by Mulla Sandra, GOAT Islamic philosopher.

>>13915493
>Sandra
Sadra*

>>13910393
>more western than the rest of the middle east
YIKES my fellow anglo

>>13914833
Better than nothing for sure, though the sex change idea was by far the worst product of the Islamic Revolution.

It's strange how little Iranian lit posted here, considering that nation has produced the greatest poets. Iranians are very well read people too. It's not uncommon for them to read at cafes on the daily.

Any classical or contemporary novel or short story masterpieces from Iran, and I mean something actually good and universalist or at least historical, and not some Westernised refugee complaining about fundamentalism, Islam or women's rights.

>>13915914
It depends what you mean by "Western". If you mean "Indo-European", then yes, undoubtedly so. Both Pre and Post-Islamic Iran had the tripartite, later fourfold, class system and an Indo-European language. Pre-Islamic Iran also had Indo-European mythical atmosphere of dragons, fire & sun worship, similar cosmogony myths as Celts involving the sacrifice of a primordial cow, divine twins, and etc. The video game Dark Souls can, in a sense, be considered a homage, but pessimistic inversion, of all Indo-European myths, and it would not seem odd to Sassanids, especially consider each household had eternal flames to ward off Ahriman's darkness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_mythology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_society#Societal_structure

I would argue the differences in modern times are also exaggerated. Both modern Europe and Iran follow Abrahamic filth and worship desert peoples. However, to the credit of Europe, Latin is the liturgical language of Catholicism, which is an IE language. However, Arabic -- the language of Islam -- is pretty bad for Iranians. Before the Revolution, less than 10% of Arabic loanwords were used, but now around 40% is used for obvious reasons.

The old liturgical language of Iranians was both Old and Younger Avestan. In my view, the Gathas is the holiest part of Zend Avesta, the only part going back to Zarathustra, and the rest being more interpretative. The inscriptions of Darius I also hold equal importance with the Gathas.

>>13915493
Where to start? I know you said anything, but there is plenty to choose from

>>13910393
>more Western
As an Iranian I think that's the worst part. We need to overcome degenerate Western influence, not succumb to it..

>>13917946
Anon, do you have any book recommendatioms for Iranian literature, particularly prose?

>>13918162
Seconded

>>13917946
yeah let's keep your women as ninjas and stone them.

>hormozgan

I hope Trump glasses the mullahs. Iranians have an IQ of 84 by the way, five points lower than the UAE and six lower than Turkey.

>>13918762
Ninjas could avoid a silly stone

>>13909441

more known for their poetry, try rumi and hafez

>>13918901
they're cool by me

>>13909504
>shahnameh
unfortunately Ferdowsi's writings lose alot in translation, as he made up alot of words to fit the poetry. it just doesn't translate well

>>13918901
>believing Lynn/Vanhanen's bullshit stats
They didn't even go to Iran and take IQ stats in urbanized areas. Only Valentine in 1959 took stats, but it was more in broken down rural areas during a time of poverty. Tehran and many other cities have their intellectual elite.