/lit/ - Literature

All great writers are writers.
That is all.

All great greats are great.
That is all.

Dostoevsky isn't conservative you dumb fuck.

>Dostoevsky
>Conservative

All Dostoevsky are Dostoevsky.

>>1386205
"How can a patriot who has cleared himself and has declared his allegiance to them to the point of betraying his former convictions, a man who worships the Emperor- how can such a man bear being suspected of relations with some wretched Poles or with (the revolutionary news paper) The Bell?"
Sounds pretty conservative to me.

>>1386238

He was a progressist. He just didn't have the same definition of ''progress'' that you have.

“Love a man, even in his sin, for that love is a likeness of the divine love, and is the summit of love on earth”

yall bakers toasting in a troll bread

>>1386250
He was an orthodox Christian who supported the autocratic government of Russia. Please tell me how that doesn't made him a conservative, because I would really like to know.

>>1386283
He was in a revolutionary group who wanted to overthrow the Tzar and thus was sentenced to death. Thought the tzar changed his mind at the last moment and he was shipped to Siberia instead.

“As for the Republicans—how can one regard seriously a frightened, greedy, nostalgic huddle of tradesmen and lucky idlers who shut their eyes to history and science, steel their emotions against decent human sympathy, cling to sordid and provincial ideals exalting sheer acquisitiveness and condoning artificial hardship for the non-materially-shrewd, dwell smugly and sentimentally in a distorted dream-cosmos of outmoded phrases and principles and attitudes based on the bygone agricultural-handicraft world, and revel in (consciously or unconsciously) mendacious assumptions (such as the notion that real liberty is synonymous with the single detail of unrestricted economic license or that a rational planning of resource-distribution would contravene some vague and mystical ‘American heritage’…) utterly contrary to fact and without the slightest foundation in human experience? Intellectually, the Republican idea deserves the tolerance and respect one gives to the dead.”

H.P. Lovecraft

Really? Can you name a great writer who loved the status quo? Besides Kipling I guess.

inb4
>kipling
>great

There has never been a good conservative philosopher or thinker of any notable kind.

That is all.

all your base are belong to us, that is all.

>>1386935
I beg you pardon.

>>1386335
Yeah, but when he returned from Siberia he rejected his previous ideals and turned to conservatism.
You people need to stop being mad just because a great writer might disagree with you politically.

>>1386957
he said good, not one that spent time on pointless shit like eternal recurrence.

op, you are a true.

>>1386957
what's a conservative

>>1386957

>Nietzsche
>conservative
>inb4 decontextualized quotes to make some lame, discredited argument about Nietzsche

indeed

>>1386968
>It hurts my head to think, I dont liek it D:

si

>>1386989
Okay, now we're talkin'.

>>1386977
Hamsun wasn't conservative, though.

Conservative doesn't mean everything right of center in a one-dimensional political spectrum. It's merely one of several ideologies on the right wing.

What's going on in this thread?

>>1386974

"the conservatives of all ages are thoroughly dishonest: they add lies" The Gay Science (1882)

futher evidence that conservative is synomymous with unread moron or I just got trolled

>>1386999
He was conservative though, in that he was resistant to the changes going on politically, and wished to preserve the status quo (traditional cultural values in his nation) He only advocated fascism because he was a conservative and nationalist--not because he believed in hitler's shenanigans

yes

yup

>>1387023
who is that dude?

>>1386363

>implying this was written at a time when the Republicans were the progressive party, and the Democrats weren't the racist redneck conservatives we now associate the GOP with.

>>1386974
>>1386957
"Whispered to the conservatives. — What was not known formerly, what is known, or might be known, today: a reversion, a return in any sense or degree is simply not possible. We physiologists know that. Yet all priests and moralists have believed the opposite—they wanted to take mankind back, to screw it back, to a former measure of virtue. Morality was always a bed of Procrustes. Even the politicians have aped the preachers of virtue at this point: today too there are still parties whose dream it is that all things might walk backwards like crabs. But no one is free to be a crab. Nothing avails: one must go forward—step by step further into decadence (that is my definition of modern “progress"). One can check this development and thus dam up degeneration, gather it and make it more vehement and sudden: one can do no more."

Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.
Oscar Wilde

>>1387033

well done!

that Nietzsche has to be shown to be anti-conservative is a hardcore facepalm

ANOTHER PISS-POOR TROLL THREAD DYING SLOWLY INTO OBLIVION

>>1387061
Good job bumping the thread.
I like how people think I am trolling when I say that Dostoevsky was a conservative, even though it is proven and he stated so himself.

>>1387029
Did you even read the fucking quote?
Seriously, read it.

>>1387071
libruls can't read

>>1387066

yes, but in the majority of cases you will obviously find that writers and intellectuals are not conservative, as it implies anti-intellectualism, another position of dostoevsky

>>1387095
>Dostoevsky
>anti-intellectual
nigga what

>>1387099
"But all the same, I'm firmly convinced that not only a great deal, but every kind, of intellectual activity is a disease."
NFU

>>1387099

The guy was right bro...

>>1387099
You are quoting an poorly translated excerpt.
The P&V translation is "But all the same, I am strongly convinced that not only too much consciousness but even any consciousness at all is a sickness."

>>1387146

thats true, you got me there, but you'll find throughout his writing an aversion towards "wiseacres" utilitarians, socialists or anyone who is outside russian orthodoxy

>>1387095
people who dwell in social sciences can not be intellectuals.

>>1387143
1. just because its written in first person doesnt mean we can equate dostoyevskys opinion with that of the narrator
2 NoF was written when dostos wife was dying, just imagine what he was feeling like at the time