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It is actually saddening that the young boys and men on this board prioritise Dostoyevsky over Tolstoy.

Tolstoy is Mozart and Dostoyevsky is Salieri

>> No.13848418

>>13848403
>caring about russian /lit/
dude what are you a fucking piss poor peasant with depression? learn french and read the guys russians tried so fucking hard to larp as but failed to be convincing

>> No.13848429

>>13848403
If it makes you feel any better, I prefer Tolstoy. Then again, I'm not as young as most of the /lit/ users so that might account for this difference in taste. When I was younger I preferred Dostoevsky.

>> No.13848453

>>13848418
>learn french
hard pass

>> No.13848458

Tolstoy is better - but Dostoevsky is far fucking better than Salieri... you were attempting to be cute with your analogy, OP, but it doesn’t fit.

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>>13848458
this. the religious connotations of the comparison are all out of whack as well.

>> No.13848485

dostoevsky is nas and tolstoy jay z

>> No.13848491

>>13848453
tolstoy wrote a lot of french in his russian novels (to make his works seem more sophisticated and less peasant-like), fucking pleb lmaoo learn it

>> No.13848498

>>13848491
The Russian aristocracy used French to appear sophisticated, he simply depicted this habit, you fucking retard.

>> No.13848507

>>13848491
It wasn’t to seem more sophisticated. When he had Russian characters speak French it was to show they were insincere.

>> No.13848514

>>13848498
>>13848507
lmao cope, stfu and learn french like any non-retarded russian did in the past. the russian language is for PEASANTS

>> No.13848522

>>13848485
jay z is shit.

>> No.13848568

>>13848491
>>13848514
>fucking lmaoo
>lmao stfu
You're a woman.

>> No.13848595

>>13848568
cope lmaooo

>> No.13848614

>>13848595
I’m curious if you think it’s true that the aristocracy didn’t learn French and try to ape European dress and manners.

>> No.13848618

Dostoyevski
>Perfect for solitude
>Sincere
>Sometimes short, sometimes long, does as the story needs
>Quottable as fuck

Tolstoy
>For faggots
>Not quottable because everything is lame
>lmao I write 1000 pages with nothing interesting for the most part

Refute this
Pro tip: you can't

>> No.13848621

>>13848595
Learn Latin, pleb

>> No.13848626

>>13848614
russian aristocracy def larped as french, any sophisticated russian did

>> No.13848627

>>13848618
You don't like lit

>> No.13848647

I prefer Dostoevsky, but both are great.

>> No.13848648

>>13848618
tolstoy is just comfy lit. dosto is actually profound.

>> No.13848651

>>13848403
Dostoevsky is Beethoven. And Mozart sucks

>> No.13848666

>>13848651
>Mozart sucks
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi8vJ_lMxQI
yikes

>> No.13848856
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Dostoevsky is Messi. Tolstoy is Ronaldo

>> No.13848863

shitty comparison. op is a pseudo.

>> No.13848884

>>13848666
Pretense of authentic emotion.

>> No.13848978

>>13848485
this is actually a good comparison

>> No.13849010

>>13848651
>>13848884

further proof

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>>13848618
>Dostoyevski
>>Perfect for solitude
Because he's a wanker
>>Sincere
Like a retard
>>Sometimes short, sometimes long, does as the story needs
Sometimes wide, sometimes thin, he had all sizes, just like McDonald's.
>>Quottable as fuck
By substitute high school teachers
>Tolstoy
>>For faggots
Faggots at least fuck each other.
>>Not quottable because everything is lame
You're a pleb for not knowing any quotes from Tolstoy
>>lmao I write 1000 pages with nothing interesting for the most part
Depicts the truth about society and human psyche disregarding whether pleb gets it or not.

>> No.13849212

>>13848418
Tolstoy, Dosty, Gogol, Pushkin, Goncharov, Turgenyev and many other writers from the golden and silver age of Russian literatura were russophiles and constantly made fun of the Russian nobility for wanting to be French. You'd know that if you weren't a literal retard.

>> No.13849223

>>13849212
nope, they all literally ripped their styles from the french. the russians have never done a single original thing in their whole literary history

>> No.13849226

>>13849223
French is a bastardized peasant version of Latin

>> No.13849234

>>13849226
i agree with you, but my points still stand. also degen latinate languages are a thousand times nicer than slavic garbage

>> No.13849235

>>13849226
so? its still better than sp*nish

>> No.13849254

>>13848522
you dont know shit

>> No.13849262

>>13849235
it's better than any germanic or slavic language. it's only real competition in europe is italian imo, spanish and portuguese are nice but haven't been as productive literarily

>> No.13849264

>>13849226
Latin is pleb afterfart of Etruscan

>> No.13849284

>>13848648
>tolstoy is just comfy lit. dosto is actually profound.
finish high school

>> No.13849322

>>13849264
they were not related languages, latin just took some etruscan words but that's it. the language that preceded latin though was probably pretty based and old as fuck

>> No.13849361

>>13848403
Why not just read both. I really liked war and peace, but I'll read the brothers karamazov next. I've heard it's breddy gud.

>> No.13849386

>>13849322
Good take. I actually find the reconstruction of the really ancient languages like proto-italic and PIE really interesting. Fun fact, if you watch prometheus, David (Fassbender) is speaking some PIE in one of the first few scenes

>> No.13849404

Dostoyevesky wrote fascinating psychological dramas. Tolstoy wrote soap operas.

Convince me otherwise.

>> No.13849408

>>13849386
dang that sounds epic, i didn't know about that. feel like a movie has to be pretty B&R to put PIE in it

>> No.13849954

>>13848485
>>13848522
>>13848978
lmao, stick to reading lads

>> No.13850013

>>13848618
this post just further convinces me that tolstoy is superior

>> No.13850052

>>13848403
Wrong, Tolstoy is Handel and Dostoevsky is Bach.

>> No.13850055

>>13848403
russians are mongoloids

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>>13848403

Ivan Ilyin wrecks Tolstoy

>> No.13850770

>>13848514
I speak French, la con de ta mère la chienne. Encule tes morts. Ça te va ?

>> No.13851550

>>13848595
shut up hole