/lit/ - Literature

Oh Percy, you so gangsta

Bysshe? How do you pronounce that? Beesheh?

>>1376007
It's pronounced like "Bish" actually. Always sounded wrong to me but apparently that's the correct pronunciation. What you suggested sounds much nicer.

>>1376013
English pronunciation is retarded anyway.

Haters gonna play their lutes of hatred

>>1376007
its pronounced bishie :3

new meme?
new meme.

Sorry to dig this thread up but I fucking love Percy Shelley
Not as aggressive as Byron, but his writing just has an inherent beauty to it which I adore and I've never experienced it with any other poet

Also, I suppose
>haters gonna lute

Shelley played a significant role in Lord Byron's development. No Percy, no Don Juan.
Also, his poetry is beautiful, ornate and substantial. I fully support the introduction of 'haters gonna lute' into /lit/'s collective vocabulary.

(I don't have any pictures of Shelley, so here's one of NB)

YESSSSS!

>>1377173
I dunno if you've seen this comic about Shelley and Byron etc but it's hilarious I think :)

I love him as a writer, he's not as edgy as Byron, which I think makes him a lot more timeless in a poetic sense. His work isn't grounded in social circumstance, y'know?

>>1377188

Ha! I hadn't seen that, it's brilliant.

I think you're right. Much of Byron's early poetry is characterised by its distinctive contemporaneousness, whereas Shelley sought to describe the timeless. I'm awfully glad that Shelley (and, perhaps to a greater degree, classical Italian poetry) nudged LB toward a more pronounced consideration of philosophy in his later poems.

>>1377220
Contemporaneousness, wow, that's not a word you hear too often. I get what you mean though, his peers and Shelley in particular were important in shifting him towards a less socially dependent form of writing.

Still, I think that with Byron especially his social commentary was integral to the humour of his work. He was an incredibly witty man, and also a celebrity of his time, so his writing wouldn't have carried anywhere near as much weight or been as sharp and individual had he not been focused on his environment.

>>1377188
>bitches, man

Oh lord, that last frame is just those two all over.

Also, yeah, I adore Shelley and Byron, and I'd never read that particular bit of verse by Percy before, it's good, even if it is funny due to 4chan

>haters gonna lute in ditches

>>1377254

I'm not sure I've ever employed the word 'contemporaneousness' before, I wish I had a less clumsy substitute for it.
It's certainly true that Don Juan, Beppo and Childe Harold's Pilgrimage would be unspectacular if they weren't completely responsive to the historical climate in which they were written. I would maintain, though, that the true root of Byron's genius was the sense of foreboding predestination that was bestowed onto him by his Calvinist contemporaries whilst in Scotland.

I have to say I find Shelley very often somehow bloodless, anaemic, insubstantial...maybe it's all the airy personified figures of abstract concepts that he keeps using in his work.

I think I like his ideas a lot better than their manifestation. Which seems appropriate, considering their content. Beautiful ideas.

>>1377291
I don't know, it's a matter of taste I suppose.

What you find bloodless and insubstantial, I find beautiful and descriptive in a way which can transcend standard poetic forms. I dunno, I think his writing is somewhat airy, I agree, but the words he uses invoke incredibly strong emotions and atmospheres, which I think is the best point of his work.

Shelley yes I love you

>haters gonna lute

I think Shelley exemplifies the true Romantic ideal. His life, his marriage, his writing, his "beautiful" death and its relationship with nature, all fulfilled the role which he and his peers strove for.

>>1377349

I suppose I keep on placing him next to Blake in my head. The comparison is usually unfavourable.

>>1377419
Ah, Blake, now that's an awkward comparison to make
I can see what you mean now.

I personally wouldn't make the comparison, I can't help but compare Shelley to the likes of Byron and Keats who he seemed much more involved with.

Blake seemed a lot more independent of the Romantic movement to me, so I tend to look at his work differently.

And like a dying lady, lean and pale,
Who totters forth, wrapp'd in a gauzy veil,
Out of her chamber, led by the insane
And feeble wanderings of her fading brain,
The moon arose up in the murky East,
A white and shapeless mass


I've never read anything which creates an atmosphere more effectively than this poem. I really think that's where the beauty of his writing lies. Those few lines are a masterwork in the creation of mood and atmosphere.

>>1377488
I dunno if that's his best, but those last two lines are gorgeous.

>haters gonna lute and screech in a ditch

>>1375973
That poem sums up /r9k/ so very neatly

>>1377584
Other than the lute, yeah actually, it does

If all of /r9k/ had lutes then it would be a prettier place I think