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reposting from >>13750741

Are there any good fantasy adventures that feature a bit of romance and none of the drama usually associated with epic or dark fantasy?
I just recently read Codex Alera and i enjoyed it a great deal and i want more of the same. The dynamic between Tavi and Kitai was great and their relationship advanced organically throughout the story without detracting from it and while they did fight here and there it was little things that quickly got resolved. I guess what im looking for are "feel good" stories if i had to find a word for it, stories about going on an adventure and finding love along the way.
Whenever i search for something that contains romance all i find usually is smut aimed at women and thats really not what im looking for.
Anonymous 5 hours ago No.13750742

There are no more heroes left in man

Anyone here read any of the following:

Radix by A.A. Attanasio
Counting Heads by David Marusek
Metropolitan by Walter Jon Williams

Having trouble deciding what to read next.

Sword & Sorcery is based and Crompilled.

>>13751656
If only there was a market for it

>>13751664
I'm fine with S&S existing on the fringes. Keeps the faggots away.

It's time to vote for next months reading. SHORT STORY EDITION yo

Following are the nominees:
Thieves' World,
featuring Poul Anderson, Joe Haldeman, Marion Zimmer Bradley and others.
~300 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/552357.Thieves_World

Rewired: The Post-Cyberpunk Anthology,
featuring Greg Egan, Paolo Bacigalupi, William Gibson, Charles Stross, Michael Swanwick, Christopher Rowe and others.
~425
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/948138.Rewired

Rogues,
featuring GRRM, Joe Abercrombie, Michael Swanwick, Scott Lynch, Garth Nix, Neil Gaiman, Patrick Rothfuss and others.
~800 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20168816-rogues

McSweeney's Mammoth Treasury of Thrilling Tales,
featuring Neil Gaiman, Stephen King, Michael Moorcock, Harlan Ellison and others.
~500 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/111088.McSweeney_s_Mammoth_Treasury_of_Thrilling_Tales

Novelties and Souvenirs: Collected Short Fiction,
featuring John Crowley and no others.
~350 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/90623.Novelties_and_Souvenirs

Stories of Your Life and Others,
featuring Ted Chiang and no others.
~275 pages
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/223380.Stories_of_Your_Life_and_Others

Poll: https://www.strawpoll.me/18585183

A fine thing with short story collection is that you don't have to read all of them to take part in discussion, which is why I allowed Rogues, at 800+ pages, in the poll.

>>13751725
Toot that ass up monthly reading anon.

Like several others I was not to fond of the world building in Babel-17. It felt out of place in the story but in the mid 60s, when the book was written, it fit quite well. Delany was also quite a new author at the time. So I have this theory that he kinda had to fluff his story with additional sci-fi babble to get the publisher to accept his rant about language. Thoughts? Maybe he's just a hack.

>>13751742
O-onii-Chan~?

>The Road
>Science Fiction

Name a single thing in that book that can be adequately described as "science fiction". Post-apocalyptic literature is not necessarily "science fiction". There's not even anything in this book that suggests the tropes of any sci fi novel. The cause for the catastrophe is deliberately left unstated because that's not at all the point.

And it's not even a post-apocalpytic novel, because the POST part implies that the story takes place AFTER an apocalyptic event.

The whole point of The Road, and why it isn't a post-apocalyptic novel, is that there is no POST-anything. The world is dying, there's not going to be anyone living on the planet in a few decades.

You people are so fucking stupid, I swear to god

>>13751813
Shut the fuck up, nerd.

>>13751497
>what book are you looking forward to owning?
The Books of Earthsea: The Complete Illustrated Edition. The thing is beautiful and weigh like 2.5kg.

>what are you reading?
Hyperion, finally. I've been posting in this general for 3 years or so and I'm finally getting around to reading it.

>>13751813

I agree that it's not sci-fi but it takes place after a meteor strike, which is the apocalypse, so yes it is a post-apocalyptic novel

Use this for the next thread:

Monthly Reading for August: TBD
Monthly Reading books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

Fantasy:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/0935e4cd59/105363.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_Masterworks

Science Fiction:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/def184ad8f/124507.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/b44928ae11/114401.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SF_Masterworks

Other Charts:
https://mega.nz/#F!ywtXwYjC!LXU3e7knFpZK_dnHeC9ixA

>>13751497
>what are you reading?
Just finished part 1 of Dune. It's fantastic so far but I fear it might get too galaxy brain for me now that Paul is going ultra instinct.
>that part when Paul thinks that Jessica of all people is too slow to figure things out
H-Hayai!

>>13751907
By Part 1 I mean I'm still on the first book but moving onto the part called Muad'Dib.
How many of the books should I read anyways? I heard they get a little wacky later.

>>13751941
First 4.

>>13751824
>hyperion

Beware the John Keats wankfest in one of the stories, it drove me fucking nuts.

Miles Cameron? I'm ambivalent.

>>13751497
>what book are you looking forward to owning?
Books 2-4 of Shadowmarch so I can read that series. Similarly Books 3 and 5 of Dune so I can read that series as well.
>what are you reading?
Just finished Imajica and it was a good read. Started reading THGTTG for a quick, easy read.
>tell us about it
It seems ok.

>>13751656
You hitting the gym fatty?

You guys are still talking about fantasy.

>I'm now realizing they've systemically erased past contributions to Science fiction by women so they can pretend it's a groundbreaking achievement they're suddenly "dominating" the industry

>>13751809
Delaney is a literal faggot. After reading dhalgren I don't trust anything he writes. The only thing scifi about dhalgren was the futuristic laser clothing they had. Getting fucked in the ass while you fuck someone else isn't scifi.

>>13751954
>in one of the stories
>one
You know it becomes a major plotpoint.

>>13751874
Do you have literal autism and some OCD thrown in?

>>13751941
I stopped at book one and don't regret it.

>>13752165
>Just finished Imajica
>it was a good read
Do you by chance like Samuel Delaney? Maybe steel remains? What about blatant gay shit?Because if you liked imajica....

>>13752210
>Help pioneer a genre and the advancement of women fantasy author
>60~ years later your #cancelled for not being a good enough ally

>>13752209
I think you posted the wrong pic, cyberpunk cosplay anon. You meant to use the scifi folder, not the fantasy one.

>>13752297
I want to put my seed deep inside her.

>searching for self-published titles
>find one that seems lame but at least it's not as bad as all the others I haven't already read
>goodreads page: 7 ratings 5 reviews
>all the reviews are made by people who only ever read that one book
How many books have you read out of pity?

>>13752274
Every time someone brings up the sticky, literally no one writes in support of it. Expect for that one guy who said "recommendation charts don't have to contain good books.
So either fucking remove the charts that legitimately no one here thinks are good, or at least write something constructive in their defense.
Either they, you are legitimately a retarded, power-tripping bonobo, and I write this without a speck of irony or exaggeration.
So I will legitimately do anything in my power to stop that disaster of a Jordan-Weeks chart from plaguing the minds of newfags, and instead post a link to the fantasy/scifi collection which gets by far the most mentions in this general, and is a great representation of the general's taste.

>>13752410
Based tripfag thinks anyone ever reads the chart. I agree though.

>>13752210
What, no one reads Frankenstein anymore?

>>13752255
In Fall of Hyperion it does and it was horrifyingly bad. Then I read Endymion only to see the Keats quality shit spread over 2 novels.

Song of Kali is still his best book.

having slept on last night's issue, ive decided my MC can make the villain's familiars eat each other instead of him. that way he gets to deal the final blow. it's in character, and it still looks clever as fuckballs with the added benefit of looking cool and firing chekov's gun

>>13751497
>what book are you looking forward to owning?
I already own everything. For every book I finish I acquire like 20 more. It’s ludicrous.
>what are you reading?
Permutation City by Greg Egan
>tell us about it
I’m only about 15% in, but so far it’s really good. I’m always looking for science fiction that at least verges on the plausible, which means no interstellar travel or intergalactic empires with armies and shut. I want sci-fi that explores automation, VR, ai, demographic change, and shifting social mores. Any recommendations?

>>13752473
PKD

>>13752405
Only a few. But I found some gems doing that too, so sometimes it works out.

>>13752410
It's because you're filtered that no one responds.
Also people don't fall for bait or desperate wanting of yous. There is always some newfag that thinks they can come in here and boss us around. We usually show them what's what.

>>13752463
Write fag no one cares. This isn't your fucking blog.

>>13751813
>The world is dying, there's not going to be anyone living on the planet in a few decades.
Because it's a metaphor for McCarthy's bland, lifeless prose? The Road is the second worst novel I've tried to read this year, after Ready Player One.

>>13752856
Get fucked, both of you. Only you get a (You) though, although your taste is shite.

>>13752780
I have been here since this general was created, and this is not about bossing anyone aroun, but doing what literally everyone here expect for you want to see be done. As I clearly said, there has been no support for those charts here, and yet you keep on refusing to say anything constructive. What a fucking faggot. Visit a psychiatrist and talk to him about your self-importance problem.
Also given how I do get responses I suppose no one intelligent actually filtered me out.

>>13752780
Actually you don't have to say anything constructive, literally give a link to someone saying something nice about one of those charts, and I will be surprised.

>>13753239
>>13753233
Who cares what people in the thread think? You think I care how people ree when I post about Bakker in here?

Fuck off tripfag

>>13753239
>>13753233
How is that gatekeeping going? How many have you convinced not to read litrpg, chinkshit, and pulpy shit? Oh, not one?
Fuck off my dude

>>13751497
Reading Canticle for Leobowitz is great but boy do people suffer.

>>13753044
His style is an awful meme and the characters are complete nonentities. What do people even like about the book?

>>13753313
That I get to fuck your mom on stacks of Corncob novels you tasteless shit.

Gonna be hard to do that if they're all sequestered up your mom's pussy

Take your (you) and shove it up your fucking ass

>>13752697
Same. I'm positive I was the only reader of a book some guy published on amazon a few day before he deleted it. I really liked that book.

>>13753375
At least you put your trip back so I can filter you, you insufferable cunt.

>>13753394
Damn, you just missed what that guy said, he's killing it RN and making you look foolish AF!

>>13751813
Shut the fuck up you pedantic tranny tripcode using retard. Nobody fucking cares.

Mr. Gene Wolfe and Mrs. Rosemary Wolfe.

Just finished Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, I don't get the ending with the electric toad is that symbolizes that everything's artificial in life?

>>13753452
Gene kinda lookes like a more chad Lovecraft here.

>>13753379
https://www.amazon.com/Necromancers-Apprentice-Order-White-Hand-ebook/dp/B07L8KD7DQ

This is the last lesser know self pub that I enjoyed. I was surprised that he managed to climb up to six reviews.

>>13751533
Radix is a hell of a ride. It also has some of the purplest prose I've ever read, it almost makes Clark Ashton Smith look like a prude. Not to say that it's written in a clumsy way, it's actually quite beautiful at times, but reading it feels like wading through sweet syrup, in a good way.

>>13752209
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANT TO FILL HER WOMBY WITH MY COOMIES AAAAFUCK

>>13753482
Gene could actually have a normal life, career and family while creating insane neurotic works of fiction.
Howard couldn't separate his inner world from his outer.

>>13752209
OOOOOOOOOOO FUUUUUUUUUUCK NOT AGIIIIIIIIIN

>>13753517
Gene'a work is an imanation of his creative mind while Howard's is an extension of it.

>>13753483
Link to epub

>>13749885
I didn't like the Thorns books bc fuck edgy 14 yr old protags. The Fools ones I liked a lot though, because Flashman knockoffs are absolutely my thing.

>>13753590
Never read Flashman but I've seen the film long ago. Are they good?

>>13752274
He's right though, the charts he removed are fucking awful and don't reflect what I see people saying in the actual threads even a little bit. Then again he's a tripfag so he's inherently human garbage

>>13753419
Why do you keep posting this whenever someone says they are blocking you? Do you think schoolyard reverse psychology will work in the literature board?

>>13753600
I enjoy the ones I've read. I'd classify them mostly as a guilty pleasure read, and only recommend them to people who would enjoy following a lying cheating cowardly womanizer through the British Empire's various colonial misadventures. Not an edgy villain, but not the standard scoundrel with a heart of gold, just a scummy dude. If you don't enjoy the character concept, there's not enough literary or educational merit to justify reading them. If you do, they're a lot of fun.

>idc what people in this general think so the charts should be shit
top tier logic

>>13753452
He married a relative?

Is there a more Reddit author than Sanderson?

>>13753733
Gatefag anon. You know we know when you post right?

Please identify this book if you know of it, it was posted on a /sffg/ thread a while back and theme of said thread was comfy. One of the book series that caught my eye took place in outer space, the protagonist is some kind of cargo handler and that's the main plot...If I remember correctly

>>13753294
I'm a sucker for stuff that mixes humor with incredibly dark subject matter. Some levity is the coating of butter that helps the meatball go down. That's one of the reasons A Scanner Darkly is my favorite PKD novel- Charles Freck's suicide is the funniest thing I've ever read in a scifi novel.

>>13753828
Half shares / full shares.

>>13753741
No her name is Rosemary Dietsch. She was his next door neighbor as kids and they met up again later in life when he finished school and got his first engineering because his mom kept in touch with her mom. She was also the reason he converted to Catholicism.

>>13753892
Aram... Is that you?

>>13751497
>what book are you looking forward to owning?
Still on the hunt for a complete, illustrated/illuminated edition of Blake that doesn't require a magnifying glass.

>what are you reading?
>tell us about it
Just finished Eumeswil. I could talk about it at length but I will say that it actually fits quite neatly into the Dying Earth genre.

>>13753515
>>13753523
Is this the new take on the kumbrain meme after it was filtered?

>>13752462
song of kali is great
keats sucks ass
UMMON actually coolguy
Dude in Box Idiot
loli timetravelbitch be stupid

>>13752697
>Self published
>Gems
Cringe and futapilled

>>13751874
Thanks for the charts bro, I found like 4 books I'd never heard of it to check out.

>samefagging so hard and pretending to be multiple persons

Finished reading Dragon's Egg. Even though a lot of the human sections were really damn clunky, it was a really sweet book. Loved the cheela and their progression, and the ending had that optimism that I think I'd been wanting from sci-fi.

No wonder we can't get the new Dresden Files, Jim Butcher is stuffing his pockets with marvells money.
https://www.audible.com/pd/Spider-Man-The-Darkest-Hours-Audiobook/1974976971?pf_rd_p=f98f2d31-f081-438d-a6bd-63a6ca0f91aa&pf_rd_r=GX1B6Y2JVEHB3R12JZEJ&ref=a_newreleas_c3_lProduct_1_4

>>13752473
as anon said, Philip K Dick would be good.

yeah man Egan is the shit though and I think he's in his own league. You'd probably also like Blindsight by Peter Watts. More about consciousness than what you mention, but it's still heavy & philosophical.

Also check out Charles Stross - Accelerando, you'll like that.

Maybe The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect too. It's a novella / short story you can read in an evening.

>>13753892
>Dietsch
Based Wolfe breeding germ women.

>>13754845
>It's a novella / short story you can read in an evening.
>175 pages
>one evening

>>13755101
Uh? That’s like an hour

>>13755185
>speedreading brainlet wonders why people talk nice about books he read

>>13754632
based retard

I basically only read self-published works nowadays. When you recognize that to be a successful writer you don't need skill but luck, you start wondering about how many fish there are in the pond that are never caught in the net.

>>13755256
Leave him alone. He doesn't read anyways. After a thousand traditional publishing you see people start to sound the same. And you're not having fun anymore.

>>13755271
>Dungeon Born
Made it a third of the way through the first book and had to drop it. The premise was interesting but the writing was amateurish at best and there were numerous distracting grammar/syntax issues.

>>13755319
i think most self published authors have the issue of not having a proofreader or editor.
some pick up one or the other eventually once they actually start earning decent money but most dont seem to care. the top guys among the self published circles do seem to have both though.
maybe its just growing pains for beginning authors. honestly i can overlook the odd typo or syntax error here and there since the writing is still considerably better than lets say compared to fanfictions or webnovels. that being said i can overlook a lot of stuff i the story is any good.

>>13755319
I'm at that point where I'd rather read amateurish self-published books than "professional" tripe from the tradpubs.

>>13752294
>Do you by chance like Samuel Delaney?
Haven't read any, might grab a Dhalgren at the thrift store if I saw one
>Maybe steel remains?
Haven't read and not interested
>What about blatant gay shit?
Preferably not, unless they gays end up thrown off roofs
>Because if you liked imajica....
It was a good read regardless. It was on a lit chart, maybe Degenerate fiction? I'd say that's accurate.

>>13753517
People love Lovecraft more though

>>13753721
I enjoy the concept a lot tebehe will give them a shot. Is he anything like Cugel?

>>13755319
The good thing about audiobooks is that they correct errors while reading. So I won't have grammatical errors.

>>13755185
>~180 pages
>60 mins
>3 pages per minute
>500 words per page
>1,500 words per minute
>25 words per second
Ha ha, yeah, ok.

So I'm finally reading the Dune series because I heard that God Emperor gets really goddamn strange and I want to be a part of that. Something that's struck me me as I've gone through the books is how different they are from what I was expecting in terms of scope. I know Dune is well regarded, but I've always heard it referred to as an "epic", like sci-fi's answer to Lord of the Rings. But I don't really see that; if anything it feels like a very long play. Most scenes are confined to one small location, most of the large-scale action happens "offstage" to be described by other characters, the action we do see consists of one-on-one confrontations between established characters, the plot is mainly developed and related through dialogues. If I had to sum up what I've read so far, I'd say it feels like Shakespeare by way of 60's headtrip scifi.

I'm not insulting it by any means, I just find it interesting how intimate it feels compared to the grand image everyone seems to have. Like I know Jodorowsky wanted to turn it into a ten-hour multi-million dollar monstrosity, when I feel like you could do the basic story justice on a high school drama budget.

>>13755271
A few days ago I posted I'd be looking at the self-published novels chart.
The Image in this post >>13755271
are the self-published novels described.
I read a few pages then skimmed and did some keyword searches.

Should I post all 32 at once, which currently be 5, not including this one, posts due to the character limit, or 1 per day, or just put it all in pastebin and say it's good?

4 = Maybe
3 = Uneven
2 = Redeemable
1 = Trash
0 = No.

Total: 32
LitRPGs: 8
Dungeon: 5

0s: 4
1s: 18
2s: 4
3s: 3
4s: 3
[] = added in


If counting the dungeon ones, then I guess 13 "litrpg" but I don't know if all of them would be or what the boundaries of litrpg really are. I didn't write much at all, it's mostly lines from the novels because they seem representative and also because writing up stuff about 32 would be more than anyone would want to read, including me.

I plan on looking at the 4s more in-depth and possibly the 3s. I expect my assessment will greatly drop of everything when I look at them more, so I'm wary of even saying much about them. Even now I wonder if I should just drop the 2s into 1s and basically everything higher down a rating.

>>13755777
I think you've got a wrong idea of what "epic" means. Dune is about the fall and rise of dynasties and -- especially in the sequels -- about the forces of history/fate. I mean, the Iliad takes place in and around a good-sized but not particularly huge town.

Dune was written when the typical SF novel was a short story padded out to 150 pages. Post-Robert Jordan, "epic fantasy" means a 250-page novel padded out to an X-book series. Whether or not something is epic is more about style subject matter than sheer quantity.

>>13755806
That's the worse of the 2 self published charts I've seen shilled here most often. My condolences.

(0) Aaron Oster - Supermage [LitRPG]
Edgy, amoral, autistic. Has a waifu. Constant infodumps
>sound of crunching bones...ribs were shattered...loud crunching sound, his skull caved...felt a rush of power as...lifeless body hit the ground with an audible squelch
>He debated using wind blade...didn't yet have the stomach to use it on a human being
>punched a hole straight through the man's chest...leaving a gaping hole where his chi-heart used to be...in a pool of spreading blood
>A rush of powered entered him as the guard died...he'd just ranked up...he couldn't help but grin
>the new [wind] blade destroyed the man's head in a shower of gore
>piercing scream as the spike emerged from his chest...body convulsed...massive amount of blood pumped from the wound...he went limp...a distinct sense of satisfaction as he watched the man in his death throes
>He stood still for a moment to his admire his work. He'd easily killed a thousand people with that attack, a new personal record

(0) Nelson Chereta - The sort of Dark Mage [Fantasy]
autism
>you rotted mouth dove!!
>Then one day grandfather ate him
>"Did he try and eat you again?" "it was no big deal"
A magical kiss to acquire a slave, but she thinks that she's his wife
A few sex scenes

(0) E. William Brown - Fimbulwinter [Erotica]
Job is outsourced to Indians. Comes home to find a guy with his wife. Cuckolded. Wife blames him for everything. Law says men are automatically guilty. Off to jail. Wife divorces him and takes the house, 50% assets, 6 years alimony, and legal expenses. Hit by a truck and hospitalized. Cue slut harem in an alternate world.
>sheriff always said my blowjobs were the best
>I can make a girl's boobs grow as big as I want
>I guess fourteen is too young where you're from?
>Let us finally show you our gratitude
>She swallowed two-thirds of my length before I could blink
>team blowjob
>I love the way you taste
>her fat brown nipples...gave them a taste-test
>I'm thirty-six and you're nineteen
>sex goddess slut bomb
>I locked the crazy bitch in her own oven and roasted her
>I was awakened the next morning by a leisurely blowjob
>Did y'want to have my virginity this morning, milord?
>Fuck ma big boobies, milord!
>"Fuck me more...Fuck me forever...Fuck, yes! Make me your bitch!"

(0) Neven Iliev - Everybody Loves Big Chests [LitRPG Erotica]
Mimic eats everything. Stat blocks galore. Vore/guro
>The fleshy toungue coiled around the young adventurer...eaten in three bites. Level up!
>It continued to sit there, slowly digesting its victim
>CRUNCH! NOOOO! RON! CRUNCH MUNCH. Her brother...eaten right in front of her...blood and guts gushed out all over the place
>she actually had an orgasm while the Mimic was ripping off her breasts...transformed into a hardcore masochist who longed to be hurt and abused
>spurt after spurt of semen to her innermost depths...not a single drop ran down her thigh
>four streams of semen...poured into her...two in her lower entrances and two more down her throat

(1) Alston Sleet - The Dungeon Traveler [Dungeon]
>You have been born as a Dungeon Core
>I thought 'shit' really hard and sulked.
>You have killed an enemy 253 levels above your own
>Ding! You have reached level 37!

(1) Andrew Ball - Contractor [SFF]
Invisible aliens are devoring humans which retroactively erases their existence. He's offered a contract from a different alien to fight them.
>...the Vorid had already erased tens of millions
>"You snort cocaine" "You don't know me" "I know you're a faggot"
>you'll forcibly wave your dick at her until she bends over
>Maybe you suck cock

(1) Andrew Seiple - Threadbare [LitRPG]
Much detail of how a Teddy bear golem's actions affects its stats
>put the upper half of the skunk next to its lower half and tried to nudge them back together
>he'd just seen that teddy bear straight up murder a fucker
>fuck a duck we waited too long

(1) Andrew Seiple - Bunker Core [Dungeon]
1 of 2 I didn't look at because it'd be a bother

(1) Benjamin Medrano - Ancient Ruins [Dungeon]
Author claims autism. A murdered woman is a vengeful living dungeon/dryad
>her captives died peacefully while they slept...carefully breaking them down to figure out how their bodies worked
>she passed out in the aftermath of her mind-blowing orgasm
>dropped into a pitcher plant...pulled out before you got digested

(1) Nelson Chereta - Dr. Anarchy's Rules For World Domination [Supervillain]
>Walking along the beach...beautiful young woman...no arms or legs
>I have an IQ of two hundred and am the fifth smartest person in the world
>I'm a ninja
>Well, I'm a super villain
>It was like in Karate Kid
>Cunt, bitch, shit, pussy, cock, and motherfucker. Your mommy is a crack whore who loves it up the ass
>You ever put a guy's balls in your mouth and give'em a little suck?
>I never imagined drawing the ire of Mary-Kate and Ashley [Olsen]
>Dark Detective could attack me at any moment
>how do you justify forcing women into the sex trade?
>I can tell you respect women deeply

(1) Dennis E. Taylor - We Are Legion (We Are Bob) [SF]
Through The power Of Cryonics I Was Reborn! What Would It Be Like To Be A Colony Ship? Enjoy These References From Centuries Ago!
>movie called Castaway
>If you're up on Star Wars and Star Trek, you're golden
>one of you to be the controlling intelligence for a Von Neumann probe
>MUST LOOK LIKE SCARY GUY FROM POLTERGEIST 2
>Calvin, Goku, and Linus...Garfield
>actual Vulcans...[Gene] Roddenberry would be proud

(1) Jim Bernheimer - Confessions of a D-List Supervillain [Supervillain]
Stupid & cartoonish like an Adult Swim reject
>General Devious recruited me into her Heroes Outmatched by Rampaging Executioner Squads (HORDES)

(1) J. Langland - Into The Abyss [Isekai]
Should be titled: I Died While Smoking Pot For The First Time And Was Summoned To Another World As A Greater Demon!?
>they'd be shitting bricks
>should feel more remorse over killing all those men
>ripped men apart with his own hands without even thinking about it

(1) John Conroe - Zone War [LitRPG]
Real world LitRPG. Salvagers (adventurers) look for salvage (treasure) in a ruined Manhattan (dungeon) and must fight drones and etc (monsters).
>I hate much of what [Rudyard Kipling] wrote, as did my father
>Rikki Tikki is my ace in the hole
>Teenage boy giving up good for teenage girl is maybe of the biggest declarations possible!

(1) Jonathan Brooke - Dungeon World [Dungeon]
Dungeon cores mate and have a baby, which is the protagonist.
>"How many dungeons cores are there out there?" "millions!"
>Although his parents were dungeon cores - he wasn't

(1) Virlyce - The Blue Mage Raised By Dragons [Fantasy]
Dragons, they're people just like us.
>"Wait how many towns did you destroy?" "Only seventeen. Don't forget to feed the baby."
>"We've accomplished 14 SSS-ranked missions"
>"What will the elves think if we imprint a demon?"
>"I hope you overexert yourself and die while you make babies"
>floofykins [Phoenix] hissed and spat a fireball
>Did you mate with a pig?
>I'm an ostrich

(1) Virlyce - The Godking's Legacy [Fantasy Raising]
Snarky most powerful sword, also has a physical body, and wants to train his waifu to be worthy of wielding him.
>But, narrator, why would he do something like that?
>receiving 40 ear scratches, 67 head pats, 107 lines of praise per day
>Shut up, Bouncykins
>Lucia Fluffytail
>ice cream..cookies..cuddles...drag him to bed using force

(1) Willaim D. Arand - Super Sale on Super Heroes [LitRPG]
Alternate Earth where cities are controlled by villains and heroes.
Protagonist can alter anything he owns, including people, with a status menu.
>He might as well call himself Upgrade Man.
>Her appearance was quite different from when he'd purchased her.
>It's not fair. It's not fair. It's not fair. It's not fair. It's not fair. It's NOT FAIR. IT's NOT FAIR!

(1) William D. Arand - Otherlife Dreams [LitRPG]
>Plains Wolf damages you for 149 points of damage
>"Fuck me, fuck me, fuck me. Fuck you, dog! I'll put you down like old yeller and use your skull as a-FUCK!"
>You use Distract on Plains Wolf.
>Plains Wolf is distracted
Apparently it's the matrix in guise of a death game and a VRMMO with basic rpg stats.

(1) William D. Arand - Cultivating Chaos [LitRPG probably]
The other one I didn't look at.

(1) Xander Boyce - Advent [SF]
Aliens have turned Earth into a training ground and has been conscripted into their navy!
Let's talk about Disney's Frozen and other pop culture.
>"Normally, I'd ask a guy to at least buy me dinner before letting him paw at me like that."
>divine xatherite
>deathweaver

(1) Dakota Krout - Dungeon Born [Dungeon]
I Was Murdered And Became A Sentient Dungeon!?
Reminded me of Tecmo's Deception.
>I'm a gem. I'm shiny. You are a dungeon core.
>A man shrieked and fell onto the spikes!...The dead man's essence blasted into me.
>neck broke with an organic tearing sound, his spine protruding from just below the case of his skull

make it stop

(2) Brian Fuller - Trysmoon: Ascension [Fantasy]
Standard Generic Young Adult Chosen One Epic Fantasy.
>The Church of the One...bring god back into the world
>one day maybe the world would be whole again

(2) John Conroe - God Touched [Urban Fantasy]
Police officer has a run in vampires.
There are demons, werewolves, angels, and etc.
>Her heart, which I could see in the hole still in her chest, didn't seem to be beating
>"Sucked to death by a creepy Russian dude!"
>I get giddy over the first gorgeous female vampire I happen to save

(2) Bill Ricardi - Another Stupid Spell [Fantasy]
Flowers for Algernon, as an orc that goes on adventures.
>each magic done, orc brain get tiny.
>Smartness magic eats bits of copper each time
>I'm celebrating my birth, or at least my mental rebirth.

(2) Randi Darren - Wild Wastes [Post-Apocalyptic Fantasy Interspecies Erotica, I guess]
Earth is a mess and mythical creatures are everywhere. Time for a monster girl harem, starting with an orc.
>she guided him into her channel and slid herself down onto it in a single fluid motion...crackling heat of her core
>burying himself up to the hilt...her body came to a shuddering halt...she closed her eyes and fell asleep
>each and every evening she mounted him until she dropped, sleeping atop him
>Her love making became more and more frantic
>kissing with a passion he hadn't expected...after his loins were done filling her..rolled off her
>simply unload down her throat...after each spurt of his seed, she made a loud, deliberately so, gulping noise.
>his soldier ant as he unloaded his hot seed into her
>last burst left him collapsed atop his Dryad
>communal orgasm
>her pulled her back and forced her to deep throat him next.
There are multiple pregnancies at the end.

(3) Glynn Stewart - Starship's Mage Omnibus [SFF]
Spacefaring magical civilization. Teleportation magic for FTL jumps and everything else.
>"The scribe used future-imperative tenses instead of future-probablistic. It's actually slightly encouraging violence the chance of violence, not predicting it."
>He hadn't misread a rune matrix since he'd started studying his gift at thirteen years old.
>floors marked with gravity runes throughout to avoid the deck's lack of gravity

(3) Terry Mancour - Spellmonger [Fantasy]
sf&f author of more than 32 books...New York Times Best Selling
I don't know for certain what the typical kind of self-published author is, but I don't think it's this.
Seems like a nice, fun, non-serious read.
>I awoke with a hangover to the unpleasant and unwelcome sound of the village bell.
>I moved out to the country in the first place anticipating a long, boring, prosperous existence...
>a fountain of fire nearly a mile high, and twelve feet across, bursting at its apex in the biggest firework I had ever seen

>>13756005
You do know this is technically spoilers, right?

(3) Matthew Schmidt - The City and The Dungeon [LitRPG]
An alternate Earth with a fantasy RPG region.
>I could sense myself in numbers. My health was a number. My obedience to the law was a number. My ability to see, to lift, to think, - numbers.
>I took out the crystals I had gotten from the money-changer. Fifty-four crystal. Fifty-four days before I died-and without even more crystal to afford a revive, it would be permanent.
>Our plans for the Boss fight were derailed a day later.

(4) J. Zachary Pike - Orconomics: A Satire [Fantasy]
A satire of D&D and fantasy conventions.
Not about Orc economics specifically.
>"The goblins in your basement robbed you. We took it from them. That's what loot is." "It came from my house!" "Where else do you think loot comes from?"
>They whirled around the banks and the markets in a racous squall, buying and selling shares in a flurry of trades.
>"And so we can see that loot yields have dropped another thirteen percent."

(4) Will Wight - Unsouled [Fantasy? Psuedo-Xianxia?]
Opening reminded me of Saga Frontier 2.
I've disliked similar framing.
I haven't read any "wuxia" or "xianxia".
>Information requested: the Spiritual Origin test of Sacred Valley
>"There is no affinity to his spirit. He is empty. Unsouled."
>He's tried seventeen times now. The water has yet to move.

(4) Martha Wells - All Systems Red [SF]
Not self-published.
https://publishing.tor.com/allsystemsred-marthawells/9780765397522/
Won the 2017 Nebula Award for Best Novella, 2018 Hugo Award for Best Novella, American Library Association's Alex Award, and nominated for 2017 Philip K. Dick Award
>I could have become a mass murderer...but then I realized I could access...the entertainment channels on the company satellites.
>35,000 [4 years] hours of movies, serials, books, plays and music consumed.
>Humans and augmented humans in close quarters with murderbots is awkward. At least, it's awkward for this muderbot.

>>13756119
There would have to be a plot for there to be spoilers. Please give one reasonable example how this spoilers anything more than a movie trailer would or a book synopsis on goodreads or etc. Especially for the erotic ones.

>>13756115
> Glynn Stewart -
Great read, just finished the 7th book. I thought the author was female (who names a boy glynn for fuck sake?)

I can only hope I never see "the dungeon is the protagonist" trash again. It's some really concentrated autism, and I mean that literally.

>>13756131
Are you saying that just because you don't like the genre there are no plots? On every book you posted?
Actually ignore that, answer me this; what's your point in posting that list? That they are shit? I enjoy shitty fun reads and others here too. No point in shaming.

>>13756166
It's not shaming. The purpose is to show people what they're like for those who think they might be interested. If they like what they see, then they ought to go for it, regardless of what I or others think.

>>13756005
>>13756090
>>13756101
>>13756115
>>13756120
Based and /lit/ pilled

>>13755101
tonight it just took me 2 hours to read i am legend, and it's 170 pages. but even if you only read a page a minute it's still just a 3 hour book. that's definitely "an evening".

>>13756173
My bad then, carry on.

>>13752210
This is what they did with comedy. When Hangover But With Chicks came out they acted like Gilda Radner or Andrea Martin never existed.

>>13756120
https://www.heliohost.org/

free webhosting literally paid for by ads and anyone can sign up but sign ups are limited each day.
no one would need to pay anything and we could make something of an /sffg/ review site for anything discussed in the general.
it would be shit and probably half assed but still miles better than goodreads.

>>13755806
Wish you'd reviewed this selfpub chart I've seen here instead, it looks less aggressively litrpg/dungeon/harem.

>>13756260
Bet you five dolla most of those are still shit

Do you think if I titled my book "Please Read My Book" people would read it?

>>13753600
A lot of the best authors of the later twentieth century were Flashie fans. The movie didn't do it justice. You absolutely owe it to yourself to check out the Flashman papers.

>>13756249
I think a group pastebin could work basically the same. Even the lit wiki may suffice. The problem is always creation and even more so, maintaince.

>>13756260
I still can. May as well I guess.


As a note, I'm the same person who re-organized and renamed the files in the charts mega.

I was originally going to do all this under the SFFG tripcode I made and was more in line with the "resist the status quo" but decided not to.

My choices for the next reading were rewired and rogues.

The main reason I was going to do so was to show that usually it's only a few people do most of the stuff. Thread creation, OPs, charts, good posts and what not. Anonymity often provides the illusion that it's a lot of different people doing a lot of stuff. Which is good in its own way.

Any good slow, low-stake adventure stories?

>>13756417
Sounds basically like you want a slice-of-life adventure.

How to know when a self-published author died?
I read Adventure of a Scribe and I liked it but the author hasn't been online in two years (goodreads, facebook)

>>13756447
Essentially. Plenty of WNs and LNs by Nips like that but I want a western take on it

>>13756467
Post a couple of examples to give an idea of something similar that you want.

>>13756508
I'm not really picky so anything you think is good would be fine

>>13756459
Basically the same way as finding out if any random person has died. Look at their social media. If that's their real name, then search their name for other stuff. Find out where they live. Search for the local newspapers are. See if they have an obituary for them. Friends may comment on their passing as well.

>>13756525
Got his name and city but the obituaries say nothing. He had a royalroad account but no posts since two years ago. The guy disappeared.

>>13756519
I looked though what I have and thought of what I've read, but nothing really comes to mind, which is why I asked.

>>13756557
I guess that's because an aimless journey lends itself more to a monthly online submission format like WNs. Thanks though

>>13756417
Possibly some of the shared world novels such as Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance may meet that. Depends on your standards though.

>>13755256
>>13755271

>>13756571
Maybe this, but I don't think it's quite what you're looking for.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35630071-9-tales-of-raffalon

>>13756574
>>13756605
Thank you for the recs I'll check them out

>>13756260
I was distracted, but I have all these now.
I've already looked at 3/16, so 13 shouldn't take too long. Should be done in a couple days, assuming nothing unexpected takes up a lot of my time.


Personally, I enjoy RPGs, manga, anime, a few light novels, and like various authors that are memed against in these threads. I think this gives me a slightly better chance to be accepting of them. Also various other reasons. Of course, I'm only one person though so it really shouldn't be taken for much.

loudly announcing I have just completed reading Roadside Picnic
>what did we think?
>what was up with that ending? Did Red's wish get granted?
>was the wish-granter a monkey paw?
>how spooked were we when the monkey-child and reanimated-grand-paw started hee-hawing at each other? I wasn't scared at all

>>13756763
s.t.a.l.k.e.r. is better

>>13751725
Is there any point in this when a single person can easily rig it with 100% success with no effort?
It's a bad system. It's "how much do you care about yours being chosen and how willing are you to break the rules to make it happen?"

>>13756763
Roadside Picnic is way better than STALKER desu
I loved it, I love any fiction to do with strange alien artifacts and it hit the nail on the head for me

>>13751813
Eat shit. It's actually fantasy or meybe religious fiction, the boy is clearly the new messiah.

>>13751497
Pregnancy is HOT.

>>13755271
I'll admit that Cradle had me hooked hard like no other fantasy series in a very long time.

>>13752297
Who?

>>13756951
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._L._Moore

>>13756972
Oh. I did not know how she looked.

>>13752304
No, no, I wanted to mix it up. Keep it fresh.
Plus slutty elves are in now.

>>13753877
I have never seen a series take such a nose dive in quality. The second book was like some bad joke.

>>13757014
>generic whore caked in makeup with no fey beauty
awful

>>13757026
The ears are too pointy.

>>13753794
Rothfuss. But it's close.

>>13755375
>might grab a Dhalgren at the thrift store if I saw one
Don't.

Im reading Vampire Crusader, I'm up to the tartars. I was enjoying the Highlander++ but Eva is a shit and I dont want to read this anymore

When will he finish the third book lads? I really enjoyed the first two.

>>13757205
>I really enjoyed the first two.
Pic related on so much levels.

>>13757204
Dis sounds interesting.
How's the writing?

>>13757236
Starts palatable but cheap, devolves into shameful. For a book about christian crusaders I would have expected writing closer to Gene Wolfe's The Wizard Knight, but it's another one of these awful books that have an interesting premise but then does everything in its power to make a story about anything except the interesting premise. The Not!Highlander is about as much of a limp-wristed tool as the writer can possibly conjure.

>>13757254
On the topic of books I wish I was reading right now. Which of these should I go for? I've read Morecock, and I enjoyed him, but whenever I read Elric, it feels like it just starts, and goes, and keeps going, with nothing really memorable happening.

>>13757265
Oh, already read Jack Vance, enjoyed that a lot though I don't really understand why he's close to gene wolfe aside from just the fact that his stuff is actually good.

>>13757267
Because Dying Earth was an obviously huge influence on Book of the New Sun.

>>13757343
How so? To be honest I can't see heaps aside from the surface premise of the dying sun and dudes going on adventures.

>>13755969
Lol. Webnovel chart anon, who do you think you are fooling?

>>13755806
>>13756005
>>13756090
>>13756101
>>13756115
>>13756120
From when you announced that you would read those books to now, there is no way you would have finished all 32. You yourself said you cherry picked by looking for keywords. No one said the self published books were literary masterpieces, but those (if you actually read it instead of cherry picking) were some of the best out of the thousands of books. There is even a disclaimer at the bottom. I had to ignore the sex scenes in some of those books, but they had a great story.

>>13756179
Speedreading anon, no one cares.

>>13756557
>>13756508
>trying to finesse light novel recommendations from anon

>>13756835
Read what you want then faggot. Why do you need a wait on a consensus to read a fucking book? If you want to read a book, then fucking read it. You autistic fucks are really getting on my nerves.

Read The Rage of Dragons, it's pretty good
Am mildy annoyed that reviews i saw for it were 'black panther meets game of thrones' etc. when it's a pretty stock, but well written, fantasy book.
Also the fucker can't add up.

>>13757182
He should grab hogg instead.

>>13756763
It's great. Back when we read it as monthly reading I had this really hot take on the ending but unfortunately I don't exactly remember my reasoning. Anyway the sphere actually granting wishes does not make any sense thematically. Red was probably killed in the same manner as Arthur. Burbage was just lucky and interpreted his luck as the sphere granting his wishes. Red is finally broken by the zone (earlier in the story he would not have killed an innocent man like he did) and the Sphere, Grinder, etc are just as random and unpredictable as the rest of the crap in there.

Where can I get Lyonesse? It seems have become a collectors item.

>>13751725
Do you read all the monthly books anon?

>>13757421
>I read a few pages then skimmed and did some keyword searches.
It's literally in his first post. If you can't even read that I don't have much hope for your book recommendations.

>>13757551
I posted that because people would take his reviews as someone who read the books in their entirety. Look some anon is telling him to post it to some blog site so others can see. This is 4Chins, if you don't put a disclaimer in the fucking review that this was skimmed and cherry picked people would take it as gospel.

Imagine if I applied the same method to a book you read? Read 5 pages then search for keywords then post those shit out of context to make your book look bad. Look what he did to waldo rabbit and everybody loves large chests. I read those because it was shilled to me in this general and they were good. They are both satirical comedies and this guy shat on them.

>>13757396
The webnovel chart anon is actually me and I think that that chart contains more garbage, but the garbage is of a higher quality.
>>13756763
>what did we think?
Contains good ideas, but the writing quality isn't the best. Hard To Be a God was better.
>what was up with that ending? Did Red's wish get granted?
Its kinda like The Crying of Lot 49, your second question is pointless IMO. There's a reason that it end where it ends. There are some interesting interpretations that you should google (the wish resulted in Soviet Union, etc.).
>>13756835
The best part is that the anon running the poll sometimes ignores 500-page book nominations as "too long", but this time 800-pages collection of shit (with a few good authors thrown in) was fine.
>>13756945
based
>>13757205
You should read his comic on social issues while you wait. A true masterpiece.
>>13757482
You are just insecure about being a slow reader.

>>13756835
Meh, it have worked well enough so far. Feel free to make suggestions for improvements however.

>>13757550
I've read all but two. About 2/3 of them during monthly reading.

>>13755271
I actually picked up Starship's Mage collection recently. It's actually pretty decent. So is Martha Well's All Systems Red. I heard terrible things about The Blue Mage Raised By Dragons and other titles in this list though so I'm still not sure about this list if it's a meme or not.

>>13757813
Then don't read. No one cares. You will either be disappointed, furious or entertained to the point of wanting more.

>>13755271
How do 90% of these have better coverart than actual published books?

>>13757852
Chill. I'm just saying the ones I've read are verified gems on the list.

>>13757870
well the chart does say quality varies so the faggot that made probably just threw shit in a blender and placed them on a chart

Speaking of self published books, doe anyone have any good fanfiction recommendations? For reference, I think the best I've ever read are Fargo and it's sequel Chicago by Bavitz, madoka magica fanfiction that's honestly so different character and setting-wise it could be published standalone if you went over it with a find&replace for names. They're both honestly a 4/5 among books I've read in general, off the charts if you compare it to most of it's peers. Other than those, everything else I really liked either fell apart, went on hiatus, or only lasted a few chapters. Below that there's a decent amount of "readable" stuff, and then an unending sea of garbage so vile it makes MTL chinese cultivator shit look poetic and sophisticated by comparison.

>>13756278
No

>>13756005
>>13756090
>>13756101
>>13756115
>>13756120

thanks for these. Just seeing one or two lines of prose eliminates 90+% of these lmao. Please do more.

>>13757938
Pic related is fan fiction that was good enough that Jack Vance allowed it to be an official Dying Earth sequel for a time until he wrote his own sequel and ignored everything in this book.

>>13751497
>looking forwards too
My own.

>what are you reading
Web novels, supreme magus and martial god asura but they're both bad.

>>13758054
MGA is bottom of the barrel chinkshit (which is already garbage). Read based reverend insanity instead.

I found a cheap second hand copy of Deadhouse Gates so I'm finally going to read this trash just to prove Eriksentards wrong when they say Malazan gets good after GOTM

Out of this web novel stuff, I've read the two most recommended (Mother of Learning and Worm) and they were both disappointingly bad so excuse me if I hide all web novel posts here and put you in the filter.

>>13758072
I dropped that after The peoples party passed decency standards and his carrier dropped the author.

Martial god asura at least massages my autism brain centers.

I had to drop spirit vessel after the author just changed his story midway through the 800th chapter.

>>13758103
rec me some good chinskhits, I've read a lot of them and am struggling to find more with lots of chaps translated.
I remember in RI he implements maoism among his slaves to get them to work harder and i worried he would get put into a reeducation camp. Do you read them in chinese? Been unironically considering learning just to read more chinkshit.

>>13758093
We won't miss you.

>>13758116
There is no good chink shit on the web, there is entertaining stuff though.
Although there's very little finished because it's easier to drop a series that isn't making money than it is to wrap it up.

Some that you might like are warlock of the magus world (the guy ripped it off from an author who ripped off wizard knight from gene wolf) and emperor of solo play.

>learn chinese
I'm planning too but it's a language you need someone around to speak it with if you intend to become fluent.

does /sffg/ hate reddit books because it's full with propaganda or something else

>>13756467
The Face in the Frost

Did the sequel to Worm ever get better? I dropped it around when team shortbus got together and the ten chapter la-goblina interlude. The characters are shit, the plot makes no sense, and the setting doesn't make a lot of sense if yo think about it too long, but there's some good imagery and idea for the powerslike the deformed monster forcefield and the broken trigger that crucified people by their brains) so I'm onboard if there's just enough creepy/surreal shit to offset the literally retarded dialogue and character interactions.

>>13751497
is there a /sffg/ discord?

what's a long ass comfy space opera series I can read?

>>13758180
The fuck is a reddit book you illiterate twat?

>>13758240
Vorkosigan. No major quality drop either during the entire series

>>13758244
sanderson books, never read them tho

>>13751519
Man, good times, I think Tavi/Kitai is still my favorite book couple, there is something really nice about a romance in novels that doesn't involve petty drama and stupid love triangles.
Unfortunately I haven't read many books that manage to pull it off, Sanderson romance is usually pretty straightfoward and clean although he does tend to use short lived love triangles.
I strangely found the Inda books to have a kinda feel good ending when it came to romance but you will have to stomach a lot of not so feel good stuff to get there since in that fantasy setting they are incredibly polyamorous, the characters in that world don't seem to mind or care though as sex for them appears to be separate from love, but I found myself caring in their behalf more than is healthy.

>>13758217
I dropped it around the same spot. Honestly wildbow has been getting steadily worse ever since golden morning arc in worm. Ward is just shitty and I see barely any redeeming qualities to it. Whereas worm contained some really cool and epic stuff, which while not being of great literary quality were very entertaining, ward just feels empty and pointless. I was suspicious of it ever since it was revealed Victoria would be the MC. Contessa would have been a much better choice desu. I just can't bring myself to care about some minor idea about a superpower after Endbringers, S9, Scion, and Khepri happend. There are a lot of memes about Taylor escalating conflict, but that was part of what made worm so appealing to me.
>>13758180
/r/fantasy and /r/books read the most uninspired garbage imaginable. They neither attempt to challenge themselves with books of greater complexity, nor venture out to learn about entertainment that is outside of their very narrow area of purview, instead shilling books that appeal to the lowest common denominator. The result is the same nonsense over and over again that hasn't any literary value to speak of, and is incredibly repetitive as far as entertainment value is concerned.

>>13757938
Fanfiction is a bannable offense... Or lat east it used to be. I miss moot.

>>13757966
>I can't do my own research
>please spoonfeed me anon-sama doki doki
>do more tell me what to read desu

>>13758267
I see. Thanks for the answer about my reddit question. Btw is there a /sffg/ discord?

>>13758275
>Literal barely legible chink web novel posting is rampant on /lit/ along with other english garbage and fanfiction
>naruto used to be banned on sight in /a/ and other shounenshit too but now every shounen manga has a general up 24/7
It was time to migrate a long time ago but I don't know where. That's the problem with good sekrit klub communities. Maybe it's time I head out into real life and embrace the wage slavery.

>>13758229
>>>/soc/
>>>/r/eddit

>>13758303
Why not both? Wage slave and shitpost. I do it.

>>13758299
>is there a /sffg/ discord?
No, there have been a few times when someone attempted to create one, but both of those attempts that I know of failed miserably.
>>13758303
>but I don't know where
I have been trying to find a good place for months now. The best that I know of are several smaller imageboards that are not very active, /r/literature and a few small discord servers.

>>13758333
>gatekeeper tripfag is a discord tranny and a rebbit user
I'm not even surprised. I never went to rebbit, and never will. You can take your gatekeeping ass there though.

>>13758303
Maybe you could try actually reading books.

>>13758344
/r/literature is miles better than /outerlit/ and if you think otherwise you are a bonobo suffering from a really bad case of tribalism. The average list post is like 4 words long and contains nothing but "SHIT AUTHOR LOL REBBIT" without any semblance of constructive discussion whatsoever.
Also, despite seeing the meme "discord tranny" mentioned for years, I have yet to see any strong arguments on why it is an inferior platform for book discussions.

>>13753483
https://www.amazon.com/Counterfeit-Fate-Pantheon-Rebellion-Book-ebook/dp/B07W95TD24/

Just got to 30%. Good enough that I'm not ashamed to post it here. Don't read the blurb, massive spoilers.
Border northern village during long winter time. Low magic setting, apparently. No smut so far.

>>13756005
>I guess fourteen is too young where you're from?
based. did he fug her

>William D. Arand - Cultivating Chaos [LitRPG probably]
Not litrpg. It's a cultivation (another genre in the self-published scene, usually with very, VERY, bad titles) harem.

>>13756120
>(4) Will Wight - Unsouled [Fantasy? Psuedo-Xianxia?]
And this is one of the better cultivation novels. I dropped it the first time I tried reading it but came back later and actually liked it. Don't take it too seriously and have a good time. Nice characters.

>(4) Martha Wells - All Systems Red [SF]
>Not self-published.
Self-published. Got picked up by a publisher later.

>>13758303
Repay gratitude 10 fold, repay enmity with death
Words to live by

>>13758431
>Low magic setting
No thanks. It's best I read real classic literature if that the case.

>>13758431
>based. did he fug her
Yep. When in China eat dog. You don't want to stand out when you're supposed to be undercover, do you?

>>13756090
>(1) Andrew Ball - Contractor [SFF]
this was written by "our" guy. A frog in a trench coat and fedora came to the protagonist.

>>13758662
>this was written by "our" guy. A frog in a trench coat and fedora came to the protagonist.
Too bad he'll never write number 2.

>>13758678
From his failbook he finished pharmacy school and got a job and got settled, the book was finished as of January, but he had to rewrite a part or some such. Didn't check since April time.

Tell me a space opera like Babylon 5. Thank you

>>13758846
What did you like about babylon 5?

>>13758854
In order
Politics
World building
Unconventional narrative structures
Mystisism

>>13758863
You'll probably want to look into some culture novels. The most recommended I've seen seems to be Use of Weapons.

I just grabbed a few new self published releases and you pseuds can't stop me from reading them.

>>13758872
I prefer the Player of Games honestly
Use of Weapons was pretty great though
>>13758863
Try the Spiral Wars series

>>13757966
I actually had a lot of trouble finding lines that stood out in a number of them, which was because they were more on the bland and inoffensive side than the poorly-written and edgy side.

> did he fug her
No, not that I saw. In this alternate world they don't really see to have age of consent though. Just discussion of others doing so.

>It's a cultivation
Ah, alright then.

>>13758662
>"our" guy
You do know that that meme has spread everywhere, right? I didn't mention it because I didn't think it was actually related and was just a coincidence.

>>13759278
>>13758431

>>13759278
Pepe was ours when that book was written. Facefag users didn't use him, and pol didn't make him a hate symbol yet.

>>13759343
I think it's more likely it was inspired by something like this instead.
https://disgaea.fandom.com/wiki/Tink

>>13759343
>2014
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_the_Frog
In 2014, images of Pepe were shared on social media by celebrities such as Katy Perry and Nicki Minaj.

Yeah, no, that was too late.

>>13757254
Oh damn it. The premise is interesting but if the writing is sub par it's all for naught.
And I was in the mood for some vampires.
Alas!

>>13759412
Face cake slut.

>>13759548
Yeah the teeth are too pointy.

Is "The Yiddish Policemen's Union" any good?

>>13757595
>satirical comedies
Poe's Law in action.

>>13757858
presumably because the author has control over the design instead of retarded marketing people (which is a double edged sword, but considering how rare good book design is I don't think it really matters)

>>13759616
Well excuse us that you aren't knowledgeable enough to see it for what it was. Not our fault you want to pretend like you are well read enough to review someone's book and can't see that the book was a comedy.

>>13759643
Depends on what "good" is.
I'm assuming you are talking about "good" in terms of your personal sense of aesthetics while they see "good" in terms of marketability. Better to have something bland and inoffensive than to give the mainstream reader some that might repulse them.

>>13759655
Just because you found them to be funny doesn't make them comedies.

In retrospect, maybe I should have used the tripcode to give people the option to easily filter the posts.

Haven't been here in two months since I was working on my shitty story among other things, did I miss anything?

>>13759701
You missed two months of threads.
Whether any of it was any of importance is a different matter.
The only way really to find out is looking back through the archives.
Were there any notable events? Probably not.

>>13758431
>Self-published. Got picked up by a publisher later.
It really wasn't and you have no evidence to show that it was.

>>13759772
https://www.goodreads.com/author/87305.Martha_Wells/questions


>I love your books and they are a real inspiration! What would you recommend to and independent author who is just starting to publish sci-fi books?

>The only self-publishing I've done is a few ebook reprints of my earlier books, after they went out of print, so I don't have much advice about that.

>>13759662
>Just because you found them to be funny
>you
Everyone that actually read the book see it's a comedy. It was recommended to me as a comedy.

>>13759799
We'll just have to say that we have an irreconcilable sense of humor then.
I felt the same way about Happy Tree Friends

I'm not enjoying reading books anymore. Most shit is too pander like today. They be trying to put in flavours and end up with a jumble of tastes that doesn't taste good.

>>13760314
>They be trying to put in flavours and end up with a jumble of tastes that doesn't taste good.
They don't think it be like that but it do.

>>13757549
Really? I've seen a few used copies recently. Got mine for 50 cents at a library book sale.

When the fantasy author shoves in a sex scene to make his book gritty, but it serves no other purpose whatsoever.

>>13760734
You have my attention.

>>13760734
Except that isn't the case of your image at all https://twitter.com/spowersmurphy/status/1156401431676506112

>>13760734
>>13760775
Busted.

>>13755476
Welp, Gene Wolfe, as masterful as he was, didn't cause a paradigm shift in genre fiction.

>>13760783
Do you think that back when "my face when" posting was a thing, people were posting actual pictures of their face? The picture is an exaggerated example of how scenes of the type I described read to me. An unnecessary and often clumsily written embarrassment for everyone involved.
If you're disappointed and would like a picture from a SFF book that's also embarrassing albeit for entirely different reasons, have this one from "Once and Future"

>>13758217
>>13758267
based, I stopped when one of the lines of dialogue was just "self care is hard" and I realized that it wasnt ever going to get better. Almost feels like wildbow feels bad for writing something that was fun instead of having totally epic damaged characters like a real writer. The escalation in worm was what made it fun, the dialogue was always passable at best, and in ward its all just cringy therepy bullshit and the fights/powers aspect is mostly really lame. Also Victoria is a shit main character, both because her powers are lame and because her character is cringe dumb blonde girl bullshit.

>>13758333
>/r/literature

OH NO NO NO NO AHAHAAHAHAHA

>>13760972
What a funny knights of the round fanfic

>>13760972
Butthurt.

>>13760982
Victoria would've been more fun as a main character back in Worm, before she got all DAMAGED. When she was just a sorta arrogant and impetuous hot teenage girl dodging excessive force complaints.

>>13760987
>/r/literature
Beowulf is a JoJo Reference
https://ol.reddit.com/r/literature/comments/czs47k/beowulf_is_a_jojo_reference/

Looks pretty much like this place desu senpai.

>tfw my spree of nonstop plagiarism has now spilled into ASoIaF
>tfw I never read the books and only watched the first few seasons

When will this madness end?

>>13761037
You just want a place where you will actually be able to gatekeep people. You think we will follow you over to rebbit so you can tell is what we can and cannot read?

>>13760734
I hate when the narrator uses exclamation marks.

>>13761187
He can't touch you through the internet tubes anon. You can just tell gate tard to fuck off.

>>13761037
>meme fantasy is a pop culture reference
Yep, exactly like this place. We, too, love references.

Just fuck off, will you?

Can sci-fi written today be set in the past?
Such as what would have been futuristic centuries ago but it is commonplace today or does this sort of sci-fi must be set in the future?

>>13761565
that's basically what low steampunk is.

>>13751725
McSweeney's in general usually contain some really great stories. Very underappreciated modern pulp.

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1340550491

>>13751708
Are there even any decent S&S stories being published lately? Everything worth reading is at least 40+ years old by now.

>>13762498
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_and_sorcery
Writers associated with this include Steven Erikson, Joe Abercrombie, and Scott Lynch, magazines such as Black Gate and the ezines Flashing Swords (not to be confused with the Lin Carter anthologies), and Beneath Ceaseless Skies publish short fiction in the style.[31] These authors and editors are attempting to return the genre to the status it enjoyed during the pulp era of the twenties and thirties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_and_Sorceress_series

>that scene in Hyperion when the Shrike rapes Kassad.
What the fuck

>>13762573
GRI approved

>>13762628
That's a negative.

>>13762573
You misspelled Cnaiür and Conphas

>>13761165
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptomnesia

>>13762572
>Writers associated with this include Steven Erikson, Joe Abercrombie, and Scott Lynch,
lol no.

>>13762816
The days of pulp are gone.
The best chance otherwise would be to look at fanfics and maybe some self-published.

>>13762498
>Are there even any decent S&S stories being published lately?
Yes. Plenty of S&S anthologies are still coming out, but of course like all anthologies the quality varies. S&S stories also pop up in new pulp magazines and shit. As far as full-length single story novels go I generally steer clear of those since they're usually nowhere near as good as the short stories. But John Fultz's Tall Eagle series is the exception. Also a new Conan pastiche should be coming out either this month or next by the writer (John Hocking) who wrote what many consider to be the best Conan pastiche (Conan and the Emerald Lotus) and I'm very much looking forward to that.

>>13762821
>The days of pulp are gone.
The heydays of Pulp are gone, but there's still plenty of Pulp being written.

>>13760657
How the fug
Send help

>>13751809
I thought the worldbuilding was fine, a kind of proto-cyberpunk setting. Things like ghosts, biomods and psychological interstellar travel weren't "necessary" but they were really cool anyway. What didn't you like about it?

One of my favorite lines of the book was
>the word for Alliance in Babel-17 translates literally into English as: one who has invaded.

Which is really hilarious because that's exactly what the Alliance called their enemy faction. It's a pretty subtle way to drive the point across.

>>13763074
>What didn't you like about it?
The pointless exposition dumps. Everything surrounding collecting the crew, the customs guy, the tour of the weapons collection in the War Yards etc. The problem is not exactly their existence but that they did not tie into the main themes in any way. The story would not have changed at all if it was just Rydra and two others on the ship.

Compare it to after we encounter The Butcher, loads of worldbuilding but almost all of it is connected to Babel-17 and the language theme. The sentence you mention is an example of what I consider good worldbuilding.

>>13751725
>Rothfuss

>Uncrowned got a release date
>ctrl + f 'Uncrowned'
>no results

>>13763384
Sounds gay and we don't read gay shit here.

>>13763418
>we don't read gay shit here

>>13763510
That's a warning label.

>>13763384
>5 September
Noice. Didn't know it'll release so soon.

>>13763514
>what is approval

>>13763516
will wight puts in work. unlike rothfats he actually publishes at a reasonable rate for how lowbrow his work is.

>>13763384
It's till the 26th. No use hyping. I expected 1st August and my feelings are hurt.

New thread:
>>13763680
>>13763680
>>13763680

>>13763683
Newfag redditor, the thread hasn't reached bump limit.

>>13762922
I think I live in an area with unusually decent taste, and people of the right age are starting to die or move out of their big houses for a lower property-tax and upkeep-cost retirement, so big portions of their collections end up sold or donated to be sold at library book sales.
At the same place I got $0.50 Lyonesse, I also found a good condition first edition first printing hardcover of Urth of the New Sun for $1. It was hidden behind a copy of The Two Towers with a movie tie-in cover and a stack of Halo novels that someone's kid presumably outgrew.

>>13763683
No fuck you

>>13764037
I know exactly who you are, and I am not doing this to annoy you, but it is a bonus
I'd rather have a thread a few dozen posts before the bump limit than suffer memechart syndrome

>>13764054
Wrong person.

>>13761264
I did, but he's still here.

>>13763683
Not dead yet.

>>13763683
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdf5EXo6I68

>>13753294
A Canticle for Leibowitz is one of the best books of any genre I've read.

>>13755271
I'm about finished with Another Stupid Spell, it's okay for the most part and has an interesting premise. BUT red flags were being raised once the race of androgynous nympho cat people start to being introduced.
And even after MC has had sex with a said cat person multiple times, it's still up in the air as to what their gender is.

>>13768596
I did a quick word search and saw this line.
You'd know the context more though.
Ames held her friend until the crying turned into relieved laughter.

>>13768596
No one cares