/lit/ - Literature

Now read Harry Frankfurt's "On Bullshit" and realize Orwell was too optimistic about a sense for the truth being an innate capacity of human beings that would have to be crushed systematically

Turns out, humans by default don't care about the truth and the average peasant retard is fully capable of assimilating "X = not-X" as long as that's what popular, socially accepted people think

>>13620188
Big Brother was just a based Hegelian showing contempt for dumb mathematic autists

>>13620188
mathematics is a lot more hard coded than gender though

>>13620217
>mathematics
>hard-coded

I didn’t realise I shared this board with such idiots

>>13620208

I believe this is true for the vast majority of us, after all when you boil us down we're essentially social creatures who need acceptance to survive. However, if you look at Kohlberg's Theories of Moral Development, there is a 6th albeit rare stage which defies this.

>>13620224

Explain?

>>13620217
mathematics is a human construct same as gender

>>13620230
What is mathematics but a science of quantification, a measure of something ‘actual’? It is merely descriptive, and ready to change at a whim should the Universe will it.

>>13620239

It's a representation of hard fact. Two apples, no matter how deeply you think about it, are two apples.

>>13620188
Read Brave new world and Fahrenheit 451 too. It only gets worse.

>>13620244
What is ‘two’? To you perhaps, it is a double of a single, but who are you to say that I don’t consider those ‘two apples’ to be merely one doppelapfel??

>transphobia
/pol/yps get gulag'd first

>>13620252
Faggot kys

>>13620251

Omg you're right maths is subjective

Is there a g/acc but for math

>>13620261
This is your first step towards transcendence, my son. Take the apple and run f

>>13620271

>the Apple
>implying I have one apple and not seven trillion

Facist

>>13620280
Very true, my mistake.

I would be sympathetic to transgenders and homosexuals if they were apolitical fringe groups, but the fact that they have become a political movements with powerful affiliations that seek to control my thought and punish me if I do not submit to them, makes this sympathy impossible.

>>13620251
The signifiers might be subjective but the ontological referants behind them are objective. Mathematics is based on a description of the necessary quantative aspects of conceptualisation that are necessary for all formulations.

>>13620270
Based

>>13620294
I agree and I feel the same way about "working class" people as well, I know if they stopped being oppressed by the "bourgeoisie" they would just start killing everyone like Stalin anyway

>>13620294
>WAAAAH HOW DARE AN OPPRESED PEOPLE BECOME POLITICAL WAAAAHH

>>13620188
woah bro, it's like an instruction manual or something...

>>13620305
based retard

>>13620251
Is this what those annoying fuckers are talking about when they ramble on about how we didn’t necessarily have to develop a base 10 number system? They go “oh well it could work just as well as a base 6!” I don’t understand it, but it seems like a moot point anyway because it’s just a different language for the same thing, right? Even if you’re calling it a different number, it still translated directly to my 12, for example? Even though your calling them one double apple, in my number system it’s two apples, and there is a single underlying truth of two physical apples.

>>13620316

I think he must know this really

>>13620297
And how do you know that what you observe is objective truth? Could we not all simply be under mass delusions as to the nature of the Universe, and of reality? Who is to say that mathematic signifiers are not simply teleological?

>>13620305
If you are "political" it means that you are a normalfag and I don't have sympathy for normalfags.

>>13620316
Um, buddy, I don’t think we’re operating on the same plane. I don’t even know what apples are. I look at whatever you say is ‘1’ of something and I just don’t know what you’re talking about. What the hell is ‘1’?? How do you know that that apple isn’t actually in a family of the objects around it, and it is actually just composite in a larger matrix of objects that make up a singular whole? What the hell are you talking about!??!

>>13620316
that's what neolemurianism is parodying

>>13620325
>And how do you know that what you observe is objective truth?
I disagree with your blatant representation of my position. I'm not some kind of naive realist. Knowledge is created by subjective experience and then by substracting the subjective parts of said observation to arrive at useful model.
>Could we not all simply be under mass delusions as to the nature of the Universe, and of reality?
Yes we could.
>Who is to say that mathematic signifiers are not simply teleological?
They would have to create a better argument for this position.

Also, I think desiring som teosofistic perspective of absolute knowledge is impossible, but we can create models that we use to understand morality. These models can be used to explain reality and make predictions. If some part of reality can't be explained by the model ( our worldview) then we can just extend the model. If some part of our observations goes against the predictions made by the model, then we need a new updated model.

>>13620356
*reality instead of morality.

>>13620305
There is an authenticity in oppression. Should they "liberate" themselves by way of politics, what are they then? They're just like everyone else, forcing their opinions on others, their reworked "normality." That is what you see in their language, terms like "heteronormativity," etc. The current normality that is being forced on them is wrong, so they will replace it with their new normality and force it on others in turn. It's one government being replaced by another, a societal coup d'etat. The hippie becomes "The Man," etc.

>>13620356
You have a lot to learn. You are like the ant that goes to work picking up bits of food all day and thinks, ‘this is as big as it gets’ until one day something the size of a million of him walks by and squashes him without a thought. As feeble monkey-brained mammals there is no hope of a full deep understanding of the universe. Numbers will only ever serve to act as representations of the world as it manifests itself to us, never as Absolute Truths of the real Universe. They are purely phenomenal, and in my eyes this makes them teleological. When you say ‘1 of something’ you are simply annotating upon your naturally blinkered image of reality, ‘1 of something’ is only ‘1 of something’ because you are incapable of seeing and believing otherwise. I will grant, however, that numbers as they are serve us in allowing for passage through this realm. Beyond, in their current form, they are useless.

>>13620372
Woke

>>13620372

Go outside and go for a run, friend. We're not saying we don't understand what you're explaining, but you live in this reality that we've contrived as a species and trying to "awaken" us otherwise is well, kinda autistic.

I understand, but I don't care.

>>13620372
Nice posioning of the well. Good to know that you have no real arguments.

>You have a lot to learn.
Correct.
>You are like the ant that goes to work picking up bits of food all day and thinks, ‘this is as big as it gets’ until one day something the size of a million of him walks by and squashes him without a thought.
This is a bad metaphor and a blatant misrepresentation of my position.
>As feeble monkey-brained mammals there is no hope of a full deep understanding of the universe.
This is also incorrect. When we have a good GUT, then it'll punch you in the gut.
>Numbers will only ever serve to act as representations of the world as it manifests itself to us, never as Absolute Truths of the real Universe.
This is exactly what I said. I'm a kantian, I don't talk about the noumenal but the necessary conditions of experience.
>They are purely phenomenal, and in my eyes this makes them teleological.
This is almost woke, but also very dumb.
>When you say ‘1 of something’ you are simply annotating upon your naturally blinkered image of reality, ‘1 of something’ is only ‘1 of something’ because you are incapable of seeing and believing otherwise.
This is true in a kantian view.
> I will grant, however, that numbers as they are serve us in allowing for passage through this realm. Beyond, in their current form, they are useless.
Speaking about some extradimensional realm you haven't been in?

>>13620390
Perhaps one day you won’t understand, but you will care. At least, I hope.

>>13620252
Why would you defend a certain people which will almost never contribute and just end up a spacial and monetary detriment?

>>13620396
What are your counter-arguments then, apart from denying that I’m a trans-dimensional supermonk?

>>13620413
Can you prove to me that you aren't a mentally ill person?

>>13620208
>George Orwell was too optimistic
He was not optimistic, the point of a distopia is to serve as a kind of warning, as something that "could be"
>the default human don't care about the truth
see, now i'm being optimistic in saying i disagree with that statement, because although i think the uneducated, the alienated, the forced into being a cog in bureaucracy, may don't care or don't need the "Truth", i think the ultimate quality of being a human is our ability of discerning right from wrong, truth from false or rather our critical thinking in differentiate those.

>>13620416
Would your Mum and sister have sex multiple times with a mentally ill person?

>>13620416
Can you prove to me that human geopolitics is not under the control of Reptilians?

>>13620372
Don't think too hard about this, I had the same thoughts and ended up having a psychotic episode when I looked at objects and couldn't work out how many of them there were or what it meant

>>13620456
based

>>13620469
When reality tears and starts to bleed around the edges, that’s how you know your getting closer to the truth. Don’t let the boy slip now!

>>13620412
Your post is evidence of bourgeois thinking. Not even going to bother responding.

>>13620479
*you’re

>>13620481
being insulated from the constraints of human biology is booj

>>13620294
You do realise that LGBT people didn't just coalesce out of nowhere? That the LGBT movement didn't just spring up out of thing air because gays wanted to tell everyone how much they like it in the ass?

These movements came about as a response to legal and cultural oppression, which is still ongoing today.

>>13620510
So what you’re saying is, if we try hard enough, we can suppress it again like we have in the past?

>>13620511
No, because you people are in the minority.

>>13620510
see >>13620367

>>13620518
I think you’ll find it is YOU who are in the minority mister

>>13620367
>>13620519
You're wrong. Their movement is a throwing off of heteronormative normalities, not an institution of a new normality. They aren't out there trying to force-feminise everyone, they just want their rights and dignity to be respected.

>>13620510
kinda 2 be expected when ur denying human biological function the human security system will smack u

>>13620527
1/3 of americans are either unsupportive of gays or have no opinion. It's a lot less in European countries.

>>13620535
And how many gays are there Einstein

>>13620531
You're simply naive. You don't see what's occurring because you think you're on the correct and thus buy into the rhetoric that's being sold to you. You probably believe in "progress" as well, that you're on the "right side of history," as if such a thing exists.

>>13620372
Absolutely based

>>13620538
A country doesn't need to be made up of farmers for farmer's rights to be protected

>>13620544
You don't know anything about me lmao. Why don't you stay on topic instead of going on these weird ass speculative tangents?

>>13620548
farmers are protected because they serve a purpose

>>13620552
You're vomiting back the exact propaganda that is fed to you, so I doubt my speculation was off the mark.

>>13620555
Just replace the variables in the analogy. A country doesn't need to be made up of Christians for Christian rights to be protected.

I thought this was a high IQ board.

>>13620531
>They aren't out there trying to force-feminise everyone
tell that to the children forced to watch grown men suck dick in the streets

>>13620560
Christians are capable of procreating.

>>13620560
all im saying is homos in traditional human biological world are leeches for not reproducing
capital shook all that up though so gay dudes r cool now

>>13620510
>LGBT
>not LGBTQBHGFDIKJOB+
bigot

>>13620251
Mein sides

>>13620563
Infertile Christians
>>13620561
>these ppl did bad things therefore lgbt bad
I wonder if you'd accept this argument about catholics

>>13620510
Are pedos officially part of LGBT yet?

>>13620572
>Infertile Christians
I'm sure you think that pointing out some minor exception to the overwhelming rule means something, but I can assure you that it doesn't.

>>13620572
>>these ppl did bad things
Are you condemning pride parades? Fuck off bigot.

>>13620188
"Trans women are women" and its negation are not factual propositions, even though they take the form of declarative sentences. They are moral imperatives; oughts, not ises. Deconstruct them and you'll see that the both sides aren't really disagreeing on scientific issues, they're disagreeing on whether people ought to be allowed to modify their bodies to some nth degree, and whether others ought to accept them.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/

>>13620587
In other words it's about controlling people's thoughts and language and making them behave in the manner you want through government power.

>>13620572
Did anyone even attempt to stop them? Surely that is something generally accepted in the LGBTQ2S+ community.

>>13620574
I feel bad for them but they rape so....

>>13620578
My point is pretty easy to follow. A demographic can be protected in a country without that demographic making up the majority of the country. If people were pushing for the genocide of infertile Christians tomorrow they would fail, even though infertile Christians aren't the majority of the population. If you still can't follow there's nothing I can do to help.
>>13620574
It's complicated. I think pedophobia is very real, even among "woke" leftists. It's reminiscent of how gays used to be treated. Of course child molestation will never be part of LGBT because it is harmful to the children but I think pedophilic desires should be treated more responsibly (eg through a psychiatrist) instead of pedophiles being ostracised and beaten up.
>>13620582
>>13620606
>this is the level of argumentation you need to go to

>>13620613
If i were to see a Catholicuck priest in the act of diddling an altar boy i sure wouldn't just stand there and stare at it.

>>13620594
That's not what I said.
I mean, I guess every time you try to convince someone of something or promote your worldview you are trying to "control people's thoughts and language". You're doing it right now! Get out of my head!

>>13620613
you're right there are norms against shedding some categories of leeches
love for the useless can be good propaganda
IMO homos have not been one of those categories because of the social contagion and pedo association

>>13620621
If you saw people fucking in the middle of a street in a busy town centre you would go and split them up? Well maybe you would, but I, along with the majority of people, would stay as far away as possible. This is irrelevant anyway as, even if it's something that happened, it doesn't represent the LGBT community or the LGBT movement

>>13620629
Would you mind pointing me to some of the positive things done by the lgbts that doesn't involve them fighting for their rights of being absolved of the consequences of their hedonistic actions?

>>13620560
Google Asia Bibi and you'll realize how wrong you are

>>13620641
It depends what you mean by "the lgbts". LGBT isn't a religion or an artistic style or anything like that. It's just a group of people who have nonconventional sexual desires. The only reason they have coalesced into a movement is to gain legal and social acceptance. To the extent we can divine an "LGBT essence" we can say they're over-represented in fashion and art; spaces where flamboyance and subjectivity rule. Of course this is a very coarse generalisation and there are all sorts of LGBT people around, many of whom are more practical and objective. The question is just vague, anon. If you're asking for examples of individual gay people who have done positive things not involving fighting for their rights I can give you plenty; if you're asking about the social movement I can give you none, but that's because the social movement is only there to address their rights.

>>13620251
>>13620372
epic

>>13620739
>muh rights
I'll never support any of this purely out of spite for people like you.

>>13620236
Neither is.

>>13620535
Islam will change that (and it's a good thing).

>>13620739
I see.
I'm an Eastern Euro, so i have no real experience with such groups. But then again, why give them those rights when a non-trivial amount of them will be molesting children or spreading AIDS on purpose?

>>13620739
Gays and lesbiand are people. The lgbtq community is a terrorist organization.

The only 'rights' trans people don't have are to thought police others, use the wrong bathrooms, and force tax money to be used on genital mutilation.

>>13620560
Fact demonstrated In recent year that either a country is expicitly Christian, Christians won't be tollerated in there. Sometimes not even Then.

>>13620641
> be gay man
> hold hands with another man
> get beaten up

The consequences of hedonism everyone

>>13620825
You're being intellectually dishonest, you know that wouldn't be the case if it were just holding hands.

1984 is allusion to what happened to USSR you fucking imbecile

>>13620188
It was the same in the Soviet Union.

>>13620251
If you deny that two is unambiguous and do so with other similar facts then you should not be able to understand or trust anything, much less your thoughts and experience.

>>13620846
How are you so sure of that? Honestly

>>13620739
If it's a group with non conventional sexual desire then why not throw pedophile and furry among them?
And I disagree that dysphoria is a sexual desire.

>>13620815
This is the level of discourse here.

>>13620815
this is the greatest post i've read this year

>>13620252
>trannies actually believe they'll ever be able to enact political violence when they can't even deal with loud sounds or someone calling them 'sir' without entering catatonic shock.
>>13620270
Incompleteness theorem doesnt 'prove' that 2+2 might be 5.

>>13620882
Yeah, you're right. They definitely seem like morally upstanding, contributing members to society.

>>13620853

>Anything can only represent one thing

Get yer head out of the textbooks lad

>>13620867
What makes you think I do

>>13620531
lol trannies get one look in a mirror and they are ready to kill themselves. they are just crazy people, simple as.

>>13620739

>>13620304
Lol that's untrue. They'd probably agree on something closer to fascism

>>13620188
Gender is a social construct, not a logical one

>>13621672
You sound worse

>>13621923
cope

>>13620372
based

>>13620188
this post should be sufficient to warrant an underage ban

>>13620251

>>13620217
>biology
>not hard coded

>>13620188
Ah yes, I imagine Orwell would have been scared shitless by random proles taking hormones and not the US's endless wars in the middle east, China successfully eradicating Tienanmen Square massacre from its public's consciousness, Trump openly admitting to obstruction of justice and getting away with it, North Korea basically using his book as the foundation of their government, etc.

But by all means, keep believing that Orwell was an alt-right incel who thought trannies were the worst offense in the history of humanity instead of the SJW socialist he actually was in real life.

>>13623826
lmfao gay ass dude

>>13620208
Yes, everyone who wrote about dystopias knew dystopias could happen

1984 is based, it really makes you think

>>13620188
bro its literally 1985 when i cant say the n word anymore

>>13623131
>gender is the same thing as sex
YIKES

>>13623826
get a load of this dude lmao

>>13620251
You’re a double nigger.

>>13620270
/thread

>implying that there is a totalitarian government that enforces the identities of transpeople
>implying that transpeople and activists literally believe that transwomen are biologically women
do people strawman the LGBT community on purpose or by accident? I honestly can't tell

>>13623131
Carefully consider the implications of this statement.

>>13620188
HOLY FUCK I have never thought of it like that

>>13620270
The greatest episode of “The Germans Strike Back” in all of history, much greater than Hitler taking Paris even

>>13620236
Math is discovered not invented you fucking retard.

>>13623973
math is descriptive, not prescriptive, you fucking retard
go read Gödel

>>13623826
Bro I just watched Dallas Buyers Club and found out about aids bro that shit sucks.

>>13624000
Learn calculus.

>>13624009
already did, and I fail to see how it is relevant

>>13620510
I don't care. They want to mess with myself and with people I like. I can't post or say anything even vaguely "critical" of LGBT people in public without risking my career being derailed or even facing prosecution.

>>13624021
If you actually had taken any higher maths you would already have learned that math is discovered not invented. The patterns exist in reality. If you are not awed by universal constants you can't be helped.

>>13624009
Engineer detected

>>13620739
>The only reason they have coalesced into a movement is to gain legal and social acceptance.
Right. Nothing about flexing on straights or developing networks.

>>13621923
Worse than a deranged self-hating faggot?

>>13623826
Uhh Israel’s wars*

>>13624022
>They want to mess with myself and with people I like.
no we don't
>I can't
yes you can
>without risking my career being derailed or even facing prosecution
something something House Un-American Activities Committee something something

>>13620739
LGBT is an invention of capitalism to promote atomised rootless cogs. There's nothing particular about it though, all social movements and subculture are exactly the same in this. Identity is a commodity, one that happens to break everyone down into neat little servile consumers. Also one that happens to be too shallow to satisfy the human and so they must overcompensate as they decay into mental illness. This identitymongering simply doesn't provide a comprehensive identity.

>>13620739
you faggots are turning other people, specifically children, into faggots.

>>13624035
>math is discovered not invented
Scientism bs

>>13624051
that;s like saying that eating a raw onion in front of a kid will make him eat raw onions. sure, he may decide to because "this guy did it, why not?", but then most people don't like eating raw onions, so the kid will do it once and then never again. there's no brainwashing at play

>>13624009
t. frustrated math teacher

>>13624068
I’ve seen the gay kids though. Should we sexualize single digit girls too?

>>13624076
gay kids don't exist, they're being abused, remember that 8(?) year old stripper on social media? the parents are stupid
but that's not what I'm getting when I hear people start talking about children; it sounds more like "gay people are bad not because they are inherently bad but because they make kids think they're normal and eventually become gay", which has so many things wrong with it that it's hard to count them all

>>13624052
The other guy was arguing that there are only models and ignoring actual theorems like E=mc^2 or a simple one like Pythagorean theorem. E is energy m ks matter and c is the speed of light. It's a constant that absolutely exists and it's a discovery as to how matter is energy. We didn't fucking invent it. It just is.

Fucking google pi and just read the wiki. It's insane by all accounts. There are a ton of discovered mathmatical patterns that are TRUTHS of existance.

And I'm a deist.

>>13624106
>matter is energy, therefore numbers are real
bravo
>And I'm a deist
less cringe now, you'd be utterly based if you just dropped the notion that numbers exist

>>13624046
Literally untrue, and how did you get to McCarthy from his post?

>>13620270
Logic's new album looking good.

>>13624106
Unfalsifiable =/= “just is”

Math is an invention and physics was the worst example you could have used.

>>13624129
>WHY CAN'T I SAY THINGS CRITICAL OF LGBT PEOPLE WITHOUT BEING FIRED OR EVEN PROSECUTED :(((((
>WHY CAN'T I SAY THINGS CRITICAL OF CAPITALISM WITHOUT BEING FIRED OR EVEN PROSECUTED :(((((

>>13624068
brainwashing occurs for the reason that lgbt categorizes deviant sexual practices into lifestyles. homosexuality isn't understood as a mere act, it is seen as a plan of life that is necessarily at conflict with normality.
shitty false analogy, dumb faggot.

>>13624148
>at conflict with normality
literally nobody thinks this

>>13624154
two men sucking each other's dick is not considered abnormal?
you really are living in a gay bubble that was concocted by lgbtq, or your shitty leftist parents.

>>13624134
Lol physical laws aren't just unfalsifiable they're unbreakable.

>>13624168
>thinking that two people who are completely indistinguishable from other people around them in their daily life but just so happen to suck each other's dicks are considered completely different from everyone else just for that reason
not all of us are faggots. you've probably spoken to people who were gay and you never realized

>>13620217
>open up a biology textbook
>read the preface/updated intro
>”We have updated the chapter on gender in organisms to better reflect that gender is no longer generally believed to be binary”
>flip to that chapter
>no hard science or referenced studies to support this claim; just a lot of hamfisted feel good political pandering
>despite just writing about how gender is determined by chromosomes

>>13620188
Careful now. Hatespeechcrime is double plus ungood.

>>13623922
Gender and sex are essentially the same

>>13624182
>conservatives claim that transpeople aren't oppressed in America and are, in fact, media darlings that cannot be criticized without risk
>post pic to make fun of their suicide rates, attempting to imply that transition doesn't work
>actually just ends up calling attention to the other stats in the pic and the other possible causes of suicide, implying that they are oppressed
lol

>>13624202
Post your chin and jawline with a timestamp. I bet you won’t do it.

>>13624202
So this is how the reddit-infected mind works...

>>13620228
>re is a 6th albeit rare stage which defies this.
go on dude

>>13624206
>I bet bet you won't even do it.
because that would dox me
to answer your implied question, though, I am cis male with an okay chin but an otherwise soi face

>>13624202
Transpeople aren't oppressed. They're loathed. You're mistaking outright hatred of their shitty group as being equivalent to them not receiving equal rights as citizens across the board.

>>13624223
>doesn’t post his chin and jawline

that’s what i thought, kid. just don’t post next time alright? nobody wants to hear generic weakchin soi #68447783 reee about conservatives oppressing your sacred trannies

>>13624230
>dox yourself
no
>sacred trannies
I couldn't care less about transpeople, I just like pointing out hypocrisy

>>13624229
>not receiving equal rights
>ignoring pic which says 19% were refused medical care
lol

>>13624239
stop posting, you’re being cringy af and i’m getting second hand-embarassment from it. Nobody can dox you from a pic of your chin and jawline. You’re just a pussy with no chin.

>>13624253
>dox yourself
are you retarded? nice selfie though, your eyes are particularly pretty

>>13624247
Yeah, and they were likely refused for not having health insurance because apparently a good chunk of the deranged idiots are also homeless.

>>13624264
>I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?!?
wow you sure showed me

>>13624416
i kno rite arnt i da best???

>>13620208
Ah, but remember... in 1984 the prole masses didn't have to be carefully controlled. They were pacified with sex, booze, sports, cheap entertainment, and endless war. The really hard-core control systems were used against the Inner Party intellectuals. So Orwell actually took what you're saying into account.

>>13624196
>essentially

>>13620531
>Their movement is a throwing off of heteronormative normalities, not an institution of a new normality.
Any sort of a commission is the institution of a new normality.

>>13624129
Leftists pretend that MCCarthy is hdibing begins every corner to distract people from their overwhelming cultural hegemony.

>>13620443
>He was not optimistic, the point of a distopia is to serve as a kind of warning, as something that "could be"
The optimism is in believe that people believing x=not-x is not the norm for human society.

>>13620252
homosexuals and deviants were sent to the real gulags, retard.
Also
>if you don't approve of my mental illness you are /pol/

>>13624908
and this time it'll be cissies and white men in the real gulags, sweety :)

>>13623922
>Falling for the sex and gender are different things meme in 2007+12

>>13624960
whites are the only people to mildly tolerate mentally ill faggots like you, in the third world everyone calls out your bullshit and in some cases throw you off the roof

>>13625000
wow im convinced to become a white nationalist now
>>>/pol/

>>13623948
the left can't meme.

>>13625010
Do you seriously think white nationalistd promote their ideology by saying >hey we're very tolerant?

>>13620188
>A self-evident falsehood accepted as an ultimate truth asserted by a Totalitarian movement
it's what Biden was referring to when he said
>I prefer truths over facts
Facts aren't debatable. Truths apparently can be whatever you want them to be.

>>13623973
Invented by God and discovered by Man

I will personally strangle every faggot if I have to.

>>13623973
>mfw milksop humanities students try to discuss mathematics
No it isn't you fuckwit. Mathematics is an abstract model invented by humans. At the root of any mathematical system are unproven axioms. These are literally assumptions/inventions which are used as foundations for extrapolation.

>>13623922
>tfw a snowflake encounters a fact he doesn't like

>>13623948
There is no "LGBT community". Lesbians hate gay men. Gay men hate lesbians. Both of them hate trannies.

At no point have any of your posts referenced actual reality. You live in a fantasy world.

>>13624264
>not knowing 4chan strips metadata from images
So many activities in your summer camp, and you're reduced to this.

>>13626321
I don't know how anyone can look at physics or the Mandelbrot set and not be a Platonist.

>>13623965
Not sure if intentional but both Gödel and Hitler are Austrian.

Also, arithmetic is a theory like any other - it's just the most useful one.
In modular arithmetic, e.g. the ring of integers mod 12 (think of clock time), you have the 15=3. To say that 15 isn't 3 is a relative statement. It's just that artihmetic (as e.g. axiomized by Peano arithmetic) is our goto framework for reasons of practical usefulness. But that's arguably already a quite human-centric perspective.

>>13620270
We have no reason to believe arithmetic is inconsistent, in particular - if you admit induction up to some countable ordinals and formal recursive structures, then there's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentzen%27s_consistency_proof

>>13624037
>flexing on straights
No, it has nothing to do with that. It's a battle against heteronormativity.

>>13620251
So if I cut your income in half and then told you the two numbers were the same, you'd accept that?

>>13626830
‘Half’ is not a number, anon. I know how to divide.

>>13620270
>goes to seances
>proves the US constitution allows tyranny
>btfos Wittgenstein
Alpha autiste of all time

>>13620574
They always were. Did you know Oscar Wilde was an incestuous pedo? Funny how the many films about him leave that out.
https://independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/just-wilde-about-the-boys-1263513.html

>implying human senses are adequate for attaining truth
back to the Greeks you go

>>13620587
>>13620623
/r/TheMotte, please leave
also you linked one of Scott's worst essays
you just know Ozy forced him to write that one at the point of a dildo

>trannyshit
get rekt
https://areomagazine.com/2019/08/07/minds-without-bodies-transgenderism-and-the-authentic-self/

>>13620815
he's not wrong