/lit/ - Literature

>>13607811
fiction is for pleasure

>>13607811
Why is this nigger so square looking
Any books for this feel?

>>13607811
Dostoyevsky's cool. Suck my faggotstick

>>13607811
Fiction is philosophy put into action. It's like an exposition of a philosophical theme, so naturally it's not as heavy as reading just straight philosophy.

There are some fictional books I've gotten more out of than the average philosophy book. Naomi by Tanizaki comes to mind

>>13607846
What is this bullshit? Reading fiction is just such a fucking waste of time compared to Philosophy literally wtf

>>13607811
You have to read Dostoyevshit in Russian to really enjoy it

>>13607811
>reading one page of shankara btfo everything i ever read
why does /lit/ do this to me?

>>13607856
Read him in both Russian and English, it's really not worth it.

There’s like three good philosophers, and Schopenhauer ain’t one of ‘em.

>>13607811
>feels
Dosto was the better philosopher in that he wasn't a complacent faggot about how shit the world is

>>13607811
I don't know who that man in the image is but just by looking at him, I can tell you I dislike him. I have nothing against his skin color. There is something about his attire , eraser head look, his physiognomy, and the room, that makes me dislike him. I dislike this man. I dislike him.

>>13607891
You're just a fucking racist.

Read a good author. Dosto is mediocre.

>>13607897
I am not.

I looked him up. I don't feel particularly bad for him. I had a worse life than him and yet I stuck through it.

>>13607897
It's copypasta anon

>>13607915
>it's a copypasta anon
Look it up on warosu then.
Look it up with quotes on Google.
It's not a copy pasta. I just don't like him.

>>13607924
Just like him anon come on just do it.

philosophy is for try hard pseuds, for the most part.
you're a gigantic faggot just like the majority but i'm sure you'll use olympic level mental gymnastics to cope your way out of the truth.

>>13607934
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>>13607942
your post is pretty low iq anon

>>13607913
>had a worse life than him
>wahh wahh i dont even have gf im 28 yr old :(( dad wants me to get a job what an asshole!!!
He was mentally ill, he killed himself because he was in a manic state.

>>13607942

>>13607934
Cope for little faggot who can't get into philosophical debates because he's too fucking dumb. Philosophy laid ground for anything and everything and literally have met dozens of people who were graduating in literature and asked them why instead of philosophy. All of them answered that they thought philosophy was too abstract and difficult for them, they were too low IQ. Faggots who prefer fiction over philosophy almost always are low IQ dumbasses who can't understand higher and more abstract concepts.

>>13607864
You were poorly educated and had very little intellectual resistances in place to prevent someone else's (albeit rather sound, in this case) logic from "rewiring" your understanding of systems.

>>13607869
It’s taking me fucking five minutes a page to read Crime and Punishment (“one of the most readable novels” according to bullshit blurb). Then again I just started and I’m reading Marmelodick’s painful rambling.
Did I get a bad translation or does he have to call Raskolnikov “Honourable Sir” every five words?

>>13607961
I lived in severe poverty most of my life. He looks well fed to me. He had an income. He had parents that supported him. I didn't have any of that. The fact that you think "no gf" is the worst problem of the world, is a major projection on your part, that's a nothing too. You've both had easy, good lives without real suffering.

>>13608013
>does he have to call Raskolnikov “Honourable Sir” every five words?
Yes, for some reason. Also 5 minutes a page isn't bad, it's pretty good. I think my time was a lot worse when I started out (but to be fair, I didn't start with Crime and Punishment)

>>13607995
couldn't be bothered to read all of that pseud cope but from what I did read it is obvious you are young, dumb, full of cum (from your starbucks barista bf) and quite the angst ridden little emo

Allow me to draw a comparison: philosophy is like espresso, and fiction is like regular drip coffee or an americano. Philosophy is heavy and concentrated, intense. Literature is expanded, played out, watered down with minutiae and details. Neither is better than the other; they serve different purposes. Philosophy is for in-depth, specific analysis, and literature is for experiencing and observing the human condition.

>>13608030
Glad I’m not alone. I heard The Brothers K is meant to be even worse in terms of “readability”.

>>13608034
>they serve different purposes
>espresso, coffee
>pleasant tasting liquid delivery system for caffeine
>different purposes
imagine a pseud making shit metaphors in a i'm so deep and smart philosophy thread

>>13608056
Espresso is designed to be made and consumed quickly and to deliver a strong dose of caffeine. Coffee is made to be enjoyed more slowly. Yes, they both contain caffeine, just as both philosophy and fiction contain truth. But the design and consumption of each are different.

>>13607924
should be a pasta its pretty good anon

>>13608072
>they serve different purposes
maybe english isn't your first language? either way this is olympic level mental gymnastics on your part. not surprised to find that in this cringey mongoloid thread.

>>13608032
>young, dumb, full of cum
Was that on purpose?

>>13608056
t. asymbolic, sentimentalist pleb

What's better?

>Spending your time reading about depressing abstract theories that make no difference to one's life (why does it matter if things outside me exist or if the categorical imperative is the most reasonable form of morality?) and getting yourself so deeply entrenched in theories, definitions, terminology, minutiae, and complexities that appear absolutely ridiculous to anyone looking at them with a clear head but profound to those who have been weaned onto philosophy, so much so that you can't take a step back and look at life in simple terms

or

>Experiencing the beauty, aesthetic value, psychological insight, emotional impactfulness, and simplicity of a well-written book with good themes, plot, and characters.

That's the problem with philosophy. Even on supposedly important issues like politics it fails tremendously because of its predisposition towards complexity and abstraction. Noam Chomsky remarked how students often get so caught up in philosophical theory when discussing politics that they forget to address the actual issues. So instead of talking about ways to end war or stop discrimination against sexual minorities they begin talking about the individual's relation to group signifiers and all that bullshit that has never helped anyone.

I'll leave you with a quote from Schiller:

>What wise men see not by their wisdom’s art

>Is practiced simply by a childlike heart.

>>13608019
Not to entertain the pointless comparison since suffering is relative, but Etika also grew up in poverty, his dad took off and his mum had to work 3 jobs to keep them afloat, then his brother killed himself. He was homeless for a while before his streaming career started gaining traction.

>>13608114

it's a phrase in common use Mr. ESL

Philosophers who can't into allegories and can only express their ideas through dry philosophical rambling aren't worth reading.

>>13607891
i hate youtubers too, anon

>>13608394
Thanks for the information.

>>13607811
RIP Will Smith

i cant wait until summer is over so we can stop having threads about schopenhauer every day