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Why isn't he considered one of the greats /lit/?

>He wrote a hundred books, contributed to 200 more, hundreds of poems, including the epic Ballad of the White Horse, five plays, five novels, and some two hundred short stories, over 4,000 newspaper essays, including 30 years worth of weekly columns for the Illustrated London News, and 13 years of weekly columns for the Daily News - all of which were witty and thought provoking.
>Wrote The Napoleon of Notting Hill, which inspired Michael Collins to lead a movement for Irish Independence
>His essay in the Illustrated London News helped inspire Gandhi to lead a movement to end British colonial rule

He's one of my favorite writers, I agree he can be overrated on the internet - but to the general population he is obscure and unknown. Do you think it's deserved?

Also
>general Chesterton thread

>> No.13597799

>>13597744
The Everlasting Man changed my life

>> No.13597801

>>13597744

He was fat, stupid, had bad teeth, was wrong about everything, and his aphorisms were shit. Look at that fucking outfit he has on, ffs. If only eugenics could have been developed earlier, and precluded his existence.

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>>13597801
>He was fat, stupid, had bad teeth, was wrong about everything, and his aphorisms were shit. Look at that fucking outfit he has on, ffs. If only eugenics could have been developed earlier, and precluded his existence.

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>>13597801
>aphorisms were shit
Chestertons fence is one of the most widely used

>> No.13597851

>>13597799
Also the book that converted C.S Lewis

>> No.13597863

He also influenced Brideshead Revisited.

>> No.13597873 [DELETED] 

>>13597744
>implying quantity matters

>> No.13597878

>>13597744
Because his books suck and his poetry sucks little less. Quality over quantity anon.

>> No.13597918

>>13597878
The Man Who Was Thursday is patrician as fuck, so are The Everlasting Man and Orthodoxy imo. Fr. Brown is also a pretty comfy read - was one of Orwell's favorite series. I've never read a book from him that I hated, lot's were mediocre but usually were worth it for the good chapters - which is pretty impressive for the volume of his works.

>> No.13597925

>>13597918
>patrician
>Orwell
>comfy
>admits mediocrity
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>> No.13597929

>>13597925
Pynchon is mentioned as being comfy here all the time

>> No.13597934

>"Did you catch this man?" asked the colonel, frowning.

>Father Brown looked him full in his frowning face. "Yes," he said, "I caught him, with an unseen hook and an invisible line which is long enough to let him wander to the ends of the world, and still to bring him back with a twitch upon the thread."

>> No.13598186

>>13597934
makes sense in context

>> No.13599523

>>13597744
Because he's shit.

>> No.13599543

>>13597744
He was pretty fat.

>> No.13599587

>>13597744
Not enough novels.
And he was going against the royal institute by promoting Christianity.
He is great tho. Father Braun is the best in the genre

>> No.13599620

>>13597744
>Why isn't he considered one of the greats /lit/?
If writing vast amounts of material and influencing many people were all it took to be considered one of the greats L Ron Hubbard would be in the Cannon.

Of course Chesterton is no Hubbard but the the kind of prominence you are placing on him when it comes to Irish and Indian Independence is the kind of uncritical fawning that draws out people like >>13597801

Hes written some nice crime fiction and pleasant devotionals but has come nowhere near the level of cultural importance and talent required to be known by the general population.

>Do you think it's deserved?
I think he is vastly over rated by his fans and vastly underrated by the general population - who really vastly under appreciate most authors.

>> No.13600666

>>13599620
Fair enough.

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>>13597918
>The Man Who Was Thursday is patrician as fuck

It's true.

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Dang OP this just popped up on my twitter feed

>> No.13602064

He was really great (400lbs)

>> No.13602072

He was also one of the best economists ever

>> No.13602380

>>13597744
His prose can be quite good. I thought Heretics was a pretty weak book. Orthodoxy was far better. Still getting to Everlasting Man.

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13603173

Orthodoxy is a masterpiece

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/130

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13603942

I've only read his fiction but I loved it.

>> No.13604283

>>13603173
Heretics was pretty good as well

>> No.13604286

>>13603942
Orthodoxy is worth a read even as a non-christian, the common sense aphorisms and general good nature of Chesterton make it a really good book.

>> No.13604335

>>13600690
Just got my copy.