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barely anyone talks about Marlowe, John Ford, John Webster, Ben Jonson and the likes

>> No.13580758

idk let's ask him

>> No.13580763

>>13580722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDVD3YTRAV8

>> No.13580765

>>13580758
ok

>> No.13580771

>>13580722

He had a better grasp of psychology than his playwright friends, and he was good at multiple genres.

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>>13580771
why he was good with psychology? it wasn´t a specialized science yet

>> No.13580786

>>13580771
But above all he was a better poet

>> No.13580789

>>13580765
*ring ring*

>> No.13580914

>>13580722
>playwriter
american education

>> No.13580930

>>13580789

helloweth?

>> No.13580955

>>13580771
Someone has read Bloom's shit book.

>> No.13581146

>>13580779
he just had a knack for it. It's the kind of thing you can't train

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13581606

>why yes, I do think Beaumont and Fletcher's 'Knight of the Burning Pestle' is superior to King Lear

>> No.13581777

>>13580779
>things don't exist until they're directly named

>> No.13582638

If Marlowe wasn’t killed his works would have developed to be far better than sh*kespeare

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>>13581606
>some faggot likes to use men´s pic on my board

>> No.13583567

>>13580722
I think Racine and Corneille are by far the best playwrights ever. Shakespeare had more talent with language than basically anyone but the way those two wrote is a purer art. It's like fucking counterpoint.

Have not read the greek playwrights in the greek though so im a pseud in the end whose opinion should be discarded.

>> No.13583596

>>13582638
Maybe, his later work wasn't as good as his earlier though so it could have been the opposite too

>> No.13583602

>>13583567
>Have not read the greek playwrights in the greek though so im a pseud in the end whose opinion should be discarded.

no reason to be self deprecating anon, i´ve read some of Sophocles plays (The Theban Plays) in english and i can testify that they´re one of best plays ever written, full of drama, vigor, pure raw talent expressed through the characters and story

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>>13580779
>specialized
>science

>> No.13583680

>>13580914
*playride

>> No.13583745

>>13580763
>university teacher talks ten minutes about how one female student is better than anybody by birth
what a dumb scene! there's no lit value in this scene. the person who wrote it had Goodwill Hunting in mind and probably never had a good course in higher ed.

>> No.13583776

>>13583602
I was kind of joking, but I do think it's a bit ridiculous to pronounce anything the best when you haven't read the literature of other people in their language.

Im not one of those translation autists, my favorite poets are mostly German and I don't speak German, but it is true that you don't really get the entirety of the thing in translation, I can testify to this from the 3 languages I do know. Some translations basically get it, but there are poems which seem impossible to translate, at least I have never seen an adequate example. Maybe highly dependent on the individual writer and how they're using their language in connection with the creation of their art, as opposed to being more rooted in nonverbal experience like thought, images, emotions, etc. in all their myriad conjunctions. That interplay is at the heart of poetry in a way, and is often not clearly understood I think.