/lit/ - Literature

>>13578753
Ridiculous. God has been demonstrated to exist mathematically.

>>13578777
>digits
t-that you God?

>pre-awaken Kant
Boi

>>13578777
Holy shit trips, based faith

>>13578777

By far my favourite thing about this board is people throwing names at each other to prove that the enemy is wrong
Also read feuerbach (I haven't read him but you haven't read Kant either)

>>13578753
I think there two Gods:
One of Absolute Good
One of Absolute Evil
And they have a constant war in this plane of existence.

I do not believe in One God or Multiple Gods, just Two.

>>13578777
data supports pic related

>>13578777
Based

>>13579110
Proof?

>>13579058
Based

>>13579058
He would not be absolute good if He could done subdue evil
and him would not be absolute evil if him had any real power

>>13579141
You just have to believe

>>13579171
He is in the process of subduing evil.
In the true end times, good will win.
However, in our present times, evil sometimes wins, but overall, good will have the upper hand in the true end times.
The wise do their best to follow the Good whereas the deluded pick Evil.

>>13579202
Evil never wins. It only tricks people by appealing to the inherent ignorance that resides in all those who lack true knowledge. Evil is absolute nothing

>>13578973
Feuerbach seems just as much put to bed as Kant after reading this.

>>13579058
Is this Kants idea? Sounds very gnostic.

>>13579141
Any studies on IQ and religiosity in existence suggest a negative correlation. There are no studies that support a return to religiosity with increasing IQ like the pic I responded to.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000238?via%3Dihub

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608001013

>>13579273
Kant was a Deist, some Gnostics are Deists others vary in degree.

>>13579364
I’ve only read Paine’s Age of Reason and he didn’t go into this very demiurge like idea.
Interesting.

>>13579431
Read critque of pure reason next

>>13579364
every language butchers Kant's writing.
This is the most obvious in this most delicate example of the KI.

>>13579431
Paine was a genius, he should be taught in every school in the world. Same goes for Samuel Adams.
>he didn’t go into this very demiurge like idea.
Not all gnostics were Misotheists, not saying Paine was a gnostic to begin with, gnosticism after all is just a take on the holistic nature of the world and has its roots in Hermeticism.
It isn't a coincidence many Founding fathers were into Freemasonry and the study of ancient teachings, Paine included.

>>13579187
This is pretty much the only statement on god that holds up under scrutiny, all 'proofs' are based on either axioms that aren't founded on anything other than tradition or language games, or they're just circular logic ala Descartes.

>>13579481
Some Germans actually prefer the English translation of the CPR due to Kant's writing just not being very legible to begin with.

>>13579549
what does that tell you that some people have to read the interpretations of someone else, if they themselves fail to understand/interpret that which the translator is interpreting?
They are retards and should change fields of study immediaetly.

>>13579530
>or Turkish
I've noticed that a lot of authors from that period use the word "Turk" when they really just mean "Muslim." Anyone know why this is?

>>13579740
Because of the Ottoman Empire I believe.

>>13578777
FUG

>>13579327
Giving you a (You) because you sure as hell ain't gonna get one from this larpin board

>>13579110

>>13579327
Studies like that have a transparently flawed methodology. Obviously if you ask the average person who's uncritically accepted the traditional religion of his culture he's probably not going to be very bright, but if you ask someone whose reasoning for belief is that they've read and understood Aquinas you're going to get people who're smart enough to deal with that kind of level intellectually.

>>13580576
that's not how statistics works anon, if the general believer is a dumb ass and 1 in 100 reads Aquinas and is intelligent, then you proved him right. the existence of a smart person in the group of x does not prove the intelligence of x's group
that being said
>measurements of intelligence
>unironic religion
both major yikes

>>13579327
if anything this is proof that IQ doesn't correlate with insight or genius
compare Dawkins and Harris to Pascal and Kierkegaard, for example, and it should clear who's the more profound thinker

>>13580904
Now THIS is a post that deserves a (You)

>>13580556
I'm not sure if there have been many studies on something like "certainty", but my intuition tells me that less intelligent people generally tend to be more certain of themselves (probably could find a study on this), so it's doubtful it would start at 0 for the lower IQ persons, they would only be less capable of defending their belief in a cogent way (a different graph: ability to argue well(whether internally or externally)). However, I suspect it might follow a more V shaped pattern (what the original graph should have graphed), since a more intelligent person might need more thought-out, analytical reasons to believe. So you hit the nail on the head with what the original graph should have been rather than this unsupported, vague meme regarding "midwit" atheists. Nevertheless, you should consider the coincidence that your graph (certainty of god) would correlate perfectly with "ability to argue well" would also correlate the same way with atheists, the only difference being that higher IQ's tend to be less religious, so your graph is self cancelling in the end, you could also say atheists are more certain of their atheism if they're more intelligent. Bringing up IQ's will never help a theist in the end.

>>13578777
Midwits on suicide watch

>>13580904
Compare [person I hate] with [person I admire] and it should be clear who the more profound thinker is.

>>13580913
ok, but is this a good (you) or a bad (you)?

>>13580576
>that kind of level intellectually.
>Aquinas


>>13580929
>Low wit rifle polisher thinks he’s found an elusive fact.

>>13580980
Is arguing with a endless tide of anonymous teen dumbasses compatible with ataraxia?

>>13580950
He's right though.

>>13579110
Lmao you can’t even into statistics can you midwit?

>>13579327
einstein wasn’t an atheist... godel actively was a theist, probably two of the highest IQs on record. Of course there will be fewer at the higher ends

>>13581088
>compare William Craig and Joel Osteen to Hawkins and Feynman, for example, and it should be clear who's the more profound thinker

>>13581018
It must be.
Perhaps it’s addiction though

>>13581150
they're all equally lacking in profundity

>>13581126
inverse correlation

>>13581150
>William Craig
BASED
>Joel Osteen
Hack
>Hawkins
Hack in his later years
>Feynman
Based

>>13581018
>>13581159
>In this moment, I am ataraxic. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But cause, I am enlightened by my own midwittedness.

>attempting to prove god
>>13580556
>'certainty' in god

you will get kicked out of church if you express any sentiment of the sort. sola fide isn't sexy, it's mandatory