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If everything is, including literature, basically entertainment or a coping mechanism, then what isn't?

>> No.13566481

The fire behind you.
t. NEETs in the cave

>> No.13566482

ball busting fetish

>> No.13566487

>>13566474
Art exists to bring us joy or help us through the times when joy is unattainable. Art can help us explore why we're alive and why certain things make us feel certain ways. :)

>> No.13566511

>>13566474
>If everything is... then what isn't?
I'm sorry You were dropped on your head as a child.

>> No.13566521

Looking into yourself truly (ie meditation). It's boring, it's not entertaining.

>> No.13566560

>>13566482
is the ball busting to cope with the fetish or the fetish to cope with the ball busting

>> No.13566586

>>13566474
Is that computer generated?

>> No.13566658

>>13566482
This, preferably balls being hammer smashed.

>> No.13566680

>>13566658
I would love my balls slowly cooked with a match while my Mistress smokes a joint~

>> No.13566699
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>>13566586
Yes cute girls actually don't exist, they're all computer generated or holograms.

>> No.13566704

>>13566699
Yeah I know. Just making sure.

>> No.13566711

>>13566474
>then what isn't?
Emma gf

>> No.13566716

>>13566487
>Art can help us explore why we're alive and why certain things make us feel certain ways. :)
You misspelled science

>> No.13566759

She is getting fat

>> No.13566769

>>13566474
>then what isn't?
The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters

>> No.13566829

>>13566474
philosophy. there is a lot of philosophy that is the direct opposite of cope

>> No.13566860

>>13566829
Examples?

>> No.13566881

I’ve wondered the same thing OP. Obviously if one critically engages with art, it can improve ones life. But 95% of the time, people just use art as a way to pass time before they become tired enough to sleep.

I’m always annoyed when I see a movie with people and they don’t want to discuss it. It was merely a way to pass 2 hours for them. The matrix is somewhat pseud, but also relatively thought provoking for a mainstream movie, in that it pushed the viewer to question established beliefs. Anyways, I just found it hilarious that millions of Americans saw the movie and basically said “cool flick! Anyways, back to my shitty job tomorrow. No need to question anything here”

The other irony is that art is merely entertainment/pleasure for most people. However, they don’t even receive that much pleasure from the art they consume - watch any American watching TV after work: they look more numb than happy. So why not just watch porn, have sex, get drunk, if you attempting to seek out pleasure. Well, the people who do those things frequently are looked down on. Americans want pleasure, but very low levels of it.

But as someone who wants to write, I’m pretty perplexed by what the purpose of art is. Is it worth it to write something I deem important, if most people will merely read me to distract themselves?

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>>13566474
People collectively think up things like wars, religions, customs, actions, cultures, collective belief is an incredibly potent steerage mechanism. Only in heightened states of mind do we ever notice the correlations and inner agreements between events and when we discover particular moments of synchronicity they tend to overwhelm us, stand apart from everything else.

As if the universe quietly and discreetly opens up pockets for miracles to occur, cleans up the mess, then sweeps back in the results into a hidden convolution of space time so that nobody in the rational world is aware of what happened.

Imagination and reality are deeply intertwined. Although not everything you can imagine happens, and not everything possible can be imaginable, an imagination that stretches to encompass the infinities of the cosmos will have as much power at its disposal as possibility itself.

That's why creative people are the future of humanity, both on the artistic and scientific spectrum. Nobody has anything real to believe in now, we need to create our reality.

>> No.13567075

>>13566474
>begging the question

>> No.13567928

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>> No.13567948
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>>13566474
This book. This is the one book in the world that's not a coping mechanism. Trust me. This is it.

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>>13566881
everything you do in life is to distract you from the idea that you know you are going to die. also see zapffe's paradox

>> No.13568067

>>13566481
What are you talking about.

>> No.13568117

>>13568067
Plato's cave allegory you pleb.

>> No.13568126

>>13566716
What do you think "why" means?

>> No.13568133

>>13566860
benatar/anti-natalism. what is cope about that? or schopenhauer. or dostoyevski

>> No.13568136

>>13566716
Imagine having such a poor understanding of both art AND science. Most adults can manage one or the other. Very sad!

>> No.13568203

>>13568133
What books by them specifically?

>> No.13568232
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Children left to themselves learn to play. They pass the time for enjoyments sake.

Modern adults poison their heads with fictions, ghost stories and overbearing rules to follow. The truly matured adult learns to undo the damage done to them and learn to play again.

>> No.13568237

>>13566474
That statement is kinda wrong, or half truth. See, everything evolves eventually to entertainment, but there is a whole process to get to it, you are missing a pretty huge gap there.

>> No.13568288

>>13568237
Tell me about that process anon.

>> No.13568308

>>13566474
There is no such thing as "everything is." That's just dumbasses trying to show how they've got everything figured out while knowing nothing.

>> No.13568845

>>13568133
>>13568203
bump

>> No.13568876 [DELETED] 

>>13568232
based

>> No.13568889

>>13567957
>zapffe's paradox
Oh shit. Thanks anon, I discovered another philosopher today

>> No.13569100

>>13566699
sauce on this girl please

>> No.13569103

>>13566474
Gathering food, acquiring shelter, reproducing. The closest to thing to meaningful you'll ever do is assuring you and your genetic line continue until to tomorrow. That's all there is.

>> No.13569127

things you actually enjoy i suppose, besides that it's all cope until you die, you can look back on your life like a growing flower

>> No.13569136

>>13569103
So our existence is just straight reducible to simple biological teleology and everything else is, as already op stated, just a distraction or a coping mechanism for not achieving that, isn't it?

>> No.13569144

>>13566474
>If everything is
>what isn't?

>>13566521
>Lowering your expectations as much as possible

Mindless animal survival. Which is nothing to strive for. Do what you find pleasure in or kill yourself. De gustibus non est disputandum

>> No.13569147

>>13568232
I’m really going to kick myself later for engaging you in convo but...
Why do you love pippi long stocking so much?

>> No.13569154

>>13569103
Even if you manage to reproduce, what is the ultimate goal? What is the actual purpose of nature creating more nature endlessly without aim?

>> No.13569201

>>13569154
I don't know, maybe there is some purpose to it I don't see.

>> No.13569207

>>13569136
I think it's a distraction from the fact that everyone has to die some day. Literature and philosophy try to teach us how to die, and most everything else tries to distract us from death.

>> No.13569217

>>13566769
That sounds like incel cope

>> No.13569226

>>13568133
They're cope in the sense of the fox and the grapes. Like these philosophers whose lives are shit, so they cope by saying everyone's life must be shit

>> No.13569316

>>13569201
Hit me up if you find it.

>> No.13569336

>>13569316
Will do good buddy.

>> No.13569341

>>13566474
the theory of the leisure class by thorstein veblen

>> No.13569521

>>13568845
idk just read their stuff. "Better Never to Have Been" by benatar, "The World as Will and Representation" by schopenhauer. ask around for dosto's stuff on existential anxiety cause idk him well but /lit/ does

>> No.13569536

>>13566474
Everything is coping with your avoidance of God

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>>13569147
Well if you hate Nietzsche go ahead and start kicking, but if you like his stiff, here’s my reasons for using her in my reaction image posting

https://www.confero.ep.liu.se/issues/2016/v4/i1/160111/confero16v4i1_160111.pdf
Hope you like it.

>> No.13569701

>>13568067
>Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments of the eyes are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light Plato Allegory of the Cave

It must be painful for you. Experiencing enligtNEETment.

>> No.13569785

>>13566474
I though about this a lot , and let me tell you

>> No.13570041

>>13569147
don't feed the butterfly meme, dude. It kills your brain cells.

>> No.13570406

>>13566474
Embrace suffering.

>> No.13570562

>>13566881
The matrix definitely had a major defining effect on americans at least.

>> No.13570647

>>13566474
sex

>> No.13570819

>>13566474
non ficiton

>> No.13571225

>>13569785
>and let me tell you

yes?

>> No.13571235

oh my GOD bro this post just blew my MIND. OP is on on SOME WHACK SHIT HERE. WOAH

>> No.13571313

>>13566474
Eating ass

>> No.13571350

>>13566680
>I would love my balls slowly cooked with a match while my Mistress smokes a joint~
Why do you understand me so well? What else would you enjoy in this scenario?

>> No.13571514

>>13567051
Quality post. I appreciate your insights and any further reading suggestions.

>> No.13571515

>>13571350
Obviously She would extinguish her joint on my sensitive frenulum after edging me for a while.

>> No.13571537

>>13569614
I want butterfly to nurse me :(

>> No.13571566

>>13571537
She has only masturbated to me, and quite simply wildly has done so.

I’ve gotten her to go without pants all day. :3

>> No.13572085

>>13569100
haley lu richardson. shes engaged so thats your chance blown.

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>>13569614
>Pippi Longstocking as Friedrich
Nietzsche’s overhuman

>> No.13572331

there´s a difference with low brow entertainment and high brow introspective art, both can be entertaining of course but only one can make you think about what you just experience it and meditate on that

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>>13570647
Sex without the intention of reproduction is, as well, just a hedonist recreational entertainment.

>> No.13572616 [DELETED] 

sucking dick is the only thing that makes me happy in life

>> No.13572716

>>13566482
Where do I find fine maidens who are into this gentlemen practice?

>> No.13572731

Working towards the technological singularity.

>> No.13572746

>>13566474
dilating

>> No.13573411

>>13572349
this

>> No.13573431

>>13566474
i want to ravage her body and give her more scars

>> No.13573585

>>13571566
Nice larp.

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>>13573431
Emma is only into dominatrix and sadomasochistic practices.

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What books do I need to read to get an Emma Roberts gf?

>> No.13573998

>>13567957
lol wut

many contemplative traditions have standard daily practice of literal "Death recollection" as the way to begin your day

>> No.13574008

>everything is x
>what isn't x?
stop posting

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>>13566482

>> No.13576607

>>13566474
Checking and rolling dubs.

>> No.13576627

>>13568232
gamers rise up

>> No.13576697

>>13566769
Based subhuman islamist

>> No.13577078

>>13573998
That's just another way of coping with it.

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>>13566474
You have buddha nature in you. Thats not cope. Its freedom.

>> No.13577757

Not all things are a coping mechanism.

Some books are for....fun.

Fun isn't a coping mechanism. Coping is a distraction from having fun because you're a bored angsty teenager.