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You'd like the flashier parts of D&G.

>>13542956
whats a dee-en-gee

>>13542946
CTMU - Reality As Language - Reality as God:

In the New Testament, John 1 begins as follows: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (my italics). Much controversy has centered on this passage, as it seems to be saying that God is literally equivalent to logos, meaning “word”, “wisdom”, “reason”, or “truth”. Insofar as these meanings all refer to constructs or ingredients of language or to language itself, this amounts to the seemingly imponderable assertion that God, of Whom believers usually conceive as an all-powerful Entity or Being, somehow consists of language. The CTMU is precisely what it takes to validate this assertion while preserving the intuitive conception of God as the all-knowing Creator – or in non-theological terms, the “identity” or “generator” – of reality. Nothing but the CTMU can fully express this biblical “word-being duality” in a consistent logico-mathematical setting. The CTMU is not just a theory; it is logical model theory applied to metaphysics, and as much a logical necessity as any branch of mathematics or philosophy. One can no more escape from it than from X=X or 1+1=2. But when it comes to something that packs this combination of scope and power, many people, including certified academics, committed atheists, and even some religious believers, are apparently afraid to stare X=X in the face.

... Thus, the CTMU is a theory which says that reality is a self-modeling universal language, or if one prefers, that the universe is a self-modeling language.The operation of combining language, universe, and model to create a perfectly self-contained metalanguage results in SCSPL, short for Self-Configuring Self-Processing Language. This language is “self-similar” in the sense that it is generated within a formal identity to which every part of it is mapped as content; its initial form, or grammatical “start symbol”, everywhere describes it on all scales. My use of grammatical terminology is intentional; in the CTMU, the conventional notion of physical causality is superseded by “telic causation”, which resembles generative grammar and approaches teleology as a natural limit. In telic causation, ordinary events are predicated on the generation of closed causal loops distributing over time and space. This loop-structure reflects the fact that time, and the spatial expansion of the cosmos as a function of time, flow in both directions – forward and backward, outward and inward – in a dual formulation of causality characterizing a new conceptualization of nature embodied in a new kind of medium or “manifold”.

>>13542964
Deleuze & Guattari
read Deleuze’s solo works, like his monograph on Nietzsche and his big statements like Difference & Repetition and The Logic of Sense

>>13542964
Dolce and Gabbana

>>13543054
based

>>13543027
>Langan attended Reed College and later on Montana State University, however, faced with severe financial and transportation problems, and believing that he could teach his professors more than they could teach him, he dropped out.

This is what every NEET on here think they are

>>13543103
The issue isn't that he couldn't teach his professors, it's that he wouldn't let them teach him. He refused to do both (read his Facebook, he's even more megalomaniacal). He's a savant, there are more blind spots than otherwise in his work, but he's also a great systematiser. Holofractal autodidacts tend to be very hit or miss, Langan in particular.

>>13543122
holofractal? damn I want to join the club that knows what this word means

>>13542946
OOO

>>13542946
cosmopsychism

>>13543347
triple vagina?

>>13543478
object oriented ontology

>>13543478

>>13542946
https://jacobitemag.com/2019/07/15/disintegration/#_ftnref5

>It could not easily be more obvious that there is no universe, outside this mythological structure. The fundamental nature of the cosmos is to go its separate ways.

>Pieces are basic. To conceive them following from wholes is confusion, produced by unsustainable universalistic frames. Any perspective that can actually be realized has already been localized by serial breakages. Nothing begins with the whole, unless as illusion. Today, we know this both empirically and transcendentally.

Bergson
Langan
Deleuze
Whitehead
Ernest McClain
Wittgenstein if read a certain way

We're all parasites living in God's anus. When shat out we all go to heaven, sinners and boy scouts alike.

>>13542946
You are just like a woman. Once a melodramatic woman wrote to Kant, saying that morality was boring, as though it were supposed to entertain her, excite her. She later killed herself over a petty quarrel she had with her husband. Supposing that there will be a Judgment Day, are you certain that on that day you will not regret exchanging the "boring" work of humbling yourself and becoming an aid to Wisdom and Humanity for the vain satisfaction of high-flying sophistry? However, it sounds to me like you do not fervently believe in Divine Judgment. Paradoxically, this exposes you as a philistine.

>>13543785
Your post is too boring, tl;dr

>>13542946
The best and most in-depth metaphysician of all time is Michael Kirkbride, which is fully applicable to the 'real world'.

>>13543810
You have exchanged physical masturbation for mental masturbation and are therefore a philodoxic cumbrain, gradually losing touch with reality.

>>13542946
This reality is actually only one reality that is part of a David Lynch movie. We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives inside the dream.

>>13543828
*yawn*

>>13543826
I didn't know you posted on 4chan

>>13543967
Look how you are like a passive audience member in life, looking in but never contributing anything of your own. You exude pompous bourgeois exasperation. Life is a tourist attraction for you; attainment eludes so long as you regard yourself as a detached critic, a pretentious spectator. You have the acidity of a pampered Victorian mistress, continually afflicted with ennui, sustained by tragedy and scandal, one of a host of devil-may-care hecklers that bite the hand that feeds.

>>13542964
Dungeons and Dragons

The Metaphysics of Entanglement which aims to

(a) investigate the metaphysical assumptions currently in play in our thinking of these phenomena;

(b) examine the explanatory constraints that a sound philosophical account of these phenomena has to meet;

(c) comparatively study Dr Marmodoro’s Power Structuralism and alternative current power ontologies to examine their respective prospects for providing a metaphysical account of the phenomena;

(d) explore the possibility of bringing the research results of the above investigation to bear on our understanding of questions regarding the metaphysics of the incarnation and of the Trinity in philosophy of religion.

>>13542946
Multiversal solipsism I guess.
In your reality, others can die but you can't and visa versa. But various people's realities are conterminous, which is reconciled by you experiencing not just yourself but other people as a reflection of their essence. So when you see people die, it's just a copy of them dying while their truer self (prime self) continues in their reality and whatever other realities they reflect onto. The teleology here is that the self never dies, just continues to an asymptotic godlike self-actualization; you never be God but become more of a god along with everyone else in this system.
It reconciles the problem that while we observe death, we never can actually experience death. Which is a true statement despite sounding absurd. You can't remember your own death. For all you know you've died countless times only to wake up in your bed with a bad nightmare and some memory loss. In this circumstance, cognition is a constant while reality is arbitrary: the main importance is that YOU continue regardless of reality. Realities are cheap in this scenario but you are priceless.

I don't necessarily believe this but you ask for interesting takes on metaphysical concepts. Try to come up with your own. The best vector is to imagine a metaphysical plot device to tell some sort of sci-fi story and make it plausible to readers. Maybe it just might turn out to be true?

Just read Hegel.

>>13544494
idk sounds pretty based to me

>>13544712
boreing

>>13544712
hegel is just self-help disguised as philosophy

>>13542946
Monadology by Leibniz is pretty goofy. All beings acts independently to one another in a "divine harmony"
Reaction to external stimuli and all conciousness is illusory.

>>13542946
hegel is what you're looking for

>>13544712
>>13545449
This.

>>13542946
The Wheels of LLUL

>>13544630
I have thought of this hypothesis, the problem I have with it is that it would justify trying to kill yourself, while believing that you are immortal.

Process metaphysics is pretty whacky if you follow the rabbit hole down deep enough.

>>13545476
le triforce

>>13545605
Yeah that's why I don't really advocate it or speak about it much. To an unhealthy person, it could lead to their ruination and ethically I don't want to have initiated or accelerated that.

I do believe though that when people materially die, that it's just that, material. So technically you're not materially immortal, as there's a dead body of you in that last reality, but you are consciously immortal. I don't think you can "kill" a soul; I think death is strictly a material phenomena. The whole thing is analogous to the relationship between player and character (soul and body). Your character can die in a game, but the player doesn't die. From the character's perspective, they are just reloaded from the save file and have no recollection of dying, yet their player alters their actions so not to experience the same fate hopefully.

Again this is just a dualist analogy to illustrate my main point. I'm not advocating Simulation Theory or we're "in a video game" (people get upset about that for some reason despite it being similar to traditional metaphysical views on ontology... probably because it sounds materialistic). The whole thought exercise came about when I pondered why I was still alive after so many near death experiences; statistically I should be dead. So I played it out as if I did die, repeatedly, but I was still allowed to continue materially to achieve some telos. As if each night I drift into oblivion but am brought back with waking eyes. Which kinda made sense to me when you look at how fragile our condition is within this reality. If you believe there is a teleology to existence, why only give people one shot in a world littered with death traps? Makes no sense unless you trick people into thinking they have only one chance and never allowing them to empirically prove they are immortal. If they had knowledge of their immortality, then they would conduct themselves radically different and careless, potentially misguiding them from their telos. Then again, that's one of the great hurdles the self has to overcome: their fear of death.

Again as a disclaimer: this is just musings. I don't take this stuff too seriously. I'm just seeking the Truth like the rest of you and find it interesting to reconcile my experiences with thought exercises.

>>13542946
>Sort of reminds me of the wholly boring, and soulless "it's all a simulation" concept.
Shit man, no. For gnostics it's not fake or a simulation but horror. Their pessimistic thinking can only be imitated through horror stories like those of Thomas Ligotti.
You need to consider that they took their teachings serious. They felt utterly helpless in this world, there was nothing in good and the only thing that may help a little is dying.
If they felt any sort of unreality, it was most likely accompanied by the fatal fact that this is all there is and there's no way out.

I'm not sure what you've read so far on Gnosticism but I'd recommend you to give Hans Jonas The Strange God a try. It's probably the best overview of gnosticism without simplifying it or breaking it down into "Old God is actually bad and there is new one here now!" like some other, more popular authors do.