/lit/ - Literature

It's not a difficult book. While I disagree with much of Hegel, finding it an arduous or even unenjoyable read, is a sign that you're a cumbrain that can't focus on anything. Go back to masturbating and tinder. You weren't cut out for any greatness in the first place.

>>13540535
How can idiots have such creative force for epithets? Maybe if we could channel even 2% of the energy we collectively use insulting each other we would have already achieved cybernetic transcendence.

>>13540525
>finnegans wake

>>13540563
In effete an effeminate world, insults are modern day warfare.
A virtual dick slap to the face is a call to duel.
Contrast with plebbit's highly saccharine inertia of PC faggotry.

War of some form must be fought for synthesis to occur. Else you end with insipid stagnation of pleasantries an unhurt feels.

>Finnegans Wake

>tfw you realize that Hegel is the true mastermind, even from beyond the grave
>tfw you find out about Hegel's occult interests and his connections with hermeticism
>tfw you realize that the Dialectic is a magic spell
>tfw you realize that Marx was puppeteered from beyond the grave by Hegel's terrible sorcery
>tfw you realize the entire 20th Century was controlled by Hegel's magic
Hegel is the Anti Christ
October 31st 1831 Hegel is witnessed to have burst into flames and disappear from this earth.

Writings found outlining spirits corruption by evil. Satanic altar. Books burned.

Satanic Hegelian rituals outlawed. Erased.

Dark triad, 666

>>13540525
pseud
>>13540535
pseud. many of the greatest philosophers were "cumbrains". see pic related

>>13540525
>Phenomenology of Spirit

Mental masturbation.

>>13540620
>Mr. Objective Truth doesn't exist
>Great
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>13540618
Boldly boasted that he killed God (the Bergsonian/Deleuzean subject). Hegel was a pure sorcerer and dialectics is pure satanism.
his name aint actually hegel
think hebrew
zian vuv zian vuv
7+6+7+6
13+13
2+6
8
that's why the number
he is old. very old.

>>13540620
>FOUCAULT
>one of the greatest philosophers
LOL
NICE BAIT.

>>13540635
That's Nine you dimwit.
The Ennead.

>>13540618
>October 31st 1831 Hegel is witnessed to have burst into flames and disappear from this earth.

Based. Diogenes Laërtius records that Empedocles died by throwing himself into Mount Etna in Sicily, the people would believed his body had vanished and he had turned into an immortal god; the volcano, threw back one of his golden sandals, all that remained of him

Lao Tzu, Empedocles, Parmenides, Zeno, Socrates, Plato, Jesus, Mohammed, Hegel, Mein Führers

>>13540635
Satan isn’t even Satan
666 isn’t even 666

>>13540646
(Talking about the image).
Even when if speak of the eight dimensions, the ninth is the eight, the whole as One. Which itself turns us to the Tenth, the Ineffable, Thrice Unknown Darkness (the eight, ninth, ten) both one and not one.

>>13540666
>Satan isn’t even Satan
>666 isn’t even 666
>digits
What did he mean by this?

>Finnegans Wake

>>13540666
Not him but more on this please. I heard somewhere its actually 616

Why Hegel is more materialist, just because he declares that you can't predict the future, and Marx is just an idealist as well?

From the position of revolutionary dialectics everything is changing, dying and negotiates to gain a new form of developing progress, and this works for everything, including our human society. So Marx during his dialectical analysis of the development of capitalism found out that the workers struggle is one of those "seeds" which is negotiating the present capitalist period of human history. And it's not about that Marx surely know what will happen in the future, no it was just a rigorous analysis of his present and he strictly criticised utopians who were popular at his time. Marx is a thinker, not an utopian, he didn't declare that communism will be for sure, but that capitalism progression goes on towards the revolution of the worker class, of course nobody cannot predict when how and under which conditions it would happen. As Rose Luxembourg once proclaimed: "Socialism or barbarianism", that means that capitalism has future only in qualitatively different society and has no future by itself, or we all die in atomic war or just will be thrown away for thousand years and here let's start again, everything can happen!

>>13540668
{}, The first (the last), the second, third, fourth, sixth, seventh (Psyche), Eight (Being and Nous) these are One whole (the Ennead). The Ennead is and is not: Ten (the Ineffable One).

>>13540618
This is the most Boomer thing I’ve seen on this board.

Reading Hegel can cause actual physical manifestation of symptoms, happened the minute I got it and will happen in a few minutes when I explain it, a mental experiment communicable in words that physically alters the chemicals of the brain drastically. This I used to think was dangerous to communicate. Then I tried a few times, to explain it to people who told me they were philosophy students, I figured that'd be the type to understand, but I got no recognition, these rather sane college students didn't really understand the vision, the trick, the mental effect, maybe you gotta be a little crazy to be able to let it happen, like Hegel walking around sniffing the snuff, whatever that was, I think it was kinda like coke, legal in prussia (germany) at the time.

Maybe it's genetic, I'm german. so maybe this resonates with me more than other people anyway.

got this not from deep deep inside the hegel literature described best I thought as "phantasmagoria", amazing schizotypal stuff, some of it available on the web and in the bookstores everywhere, well that stuff is great and reinforces the project of kenosis, remaps it onto infinitely different fields of knowledge, but I got this delusion/hallucination/belief out of the preface to the phenomenology of spirit, meant to be the gateway to hegel's thought, the preface itself considered a classic of german literature. I don't know german but the translation is the most amazing use of english I've ever seen, the long twisty sentence structure rarely approached by anyone except maybe, me.

Spent ten years with that crazy stuff as my main psychosis hobby, this was before this website or the internet itself was available. I worked in the city, spent an hour each way on the subway, had a seat, so I read the little photocopied books, I paid ten cents per four pages for those books and bought them little by little out of the nyc public library in manhattan at 42nd street, in the stacks deep below bryant park, where they do the fashion shows every year and free movies once a week. Ten years where for the main two hours of the day - my commute - I went floridly psychotic with hegel for a guide.

This was in the preface to the phenomenology. I was in a second floor apartment in queens with a small triangular patio I liked sitting out on, right above a noisy highway that was annoying to try to sleep near, it never stops! but that night there was a very clear and close full moon in clear view of that patio, above the din of the traffic.

>>13540749
And on my mind that psychotic night I had hegel's introduction of his basic schema, which can be called kenosis, a word I got deep inside hegel, it was the esoteric philosophy word from greek for how jesus became divine, how god got "inside" jesus, how god "emptied himself" like a fishtank "into" the physical person of jesus. Got this in the hegel book the philosophy of religion, which was well described as a re-mytholization of christianity, he twisted it into an unrecognizable and very greek version of religion, with yet a trinity and the name jesus and the bible itself carried along, "aufgehoben" or "cancelled and simultaneously lifted up" into this re-mythologized, re-revealed relgion, with hegel almost going for prophet here - the official philosopher of prussia seat was a mystical yearning of his.

Kenosis is what hegel brings to the table as he then proceeds to study and reclassify every sphere of knowledge available to him at his time. Some of his books are better than others. The philosophy of right is the book that most influenced me in life, made me join the cult of Sittlikheit, or Ethical Life. Taught me all kinds of principles I learned to use as my own, like no man shall be altogether sacrificed on the altar of right, because he is someone's brother father husband son. Taught me about roman law and how it evolved to my own day, made me appreciate politics and the world news in a new and different way, he romanticized napolean as a schizophrenic would mythologize his rock and roll hero or something, napolean was leading all of world history, the spirit, the Geist, from his horse's back, magus of time. Hegel could really be a crazy guy sometimes.

The mechanics of kenosis are what I want to try to explain. It's a simple mind experiment, a "gedanken", that I perfomed that night, and maybe philosophy students aren't the ones to be doing astral projection, maybe it's the schizophrenics who can do this. Astral projection in a little purple how to book from my mother's basement was something else I was reading and getting into at the time. This is what I bring to the table, combining hegel's clearly mapped kenotic "spilling out" of the fishtank of self into a separate tank, you know, while you're cleaning the tank you put the whole set of fish in a stand by tank, maybe not as pretty and eventually to be sacrificed, well, that's where I intend to be going with this. I also bring to the table the introduction of kenotic projection to the new much larger distances available to modern day astrophysics - i keep an eye on the field of cosmic cartography, the project to map all of heaven out as far as our most outlandish telescopes can see. And this is a new level of sorcery never before available to mankind, this is what I want to explain here.


So the mechanics of kenosis are three stages.

>>13540760
Stage one we are "essence", not really thinking too much just hungry tired horny etc, essence, on the inside, looking out, presumably looking out from inside this flesh, this place we think we are inside ever since early infancy, we can move our own fingers and toes so we must be in there, can't move the desk or mommy so must not be in there. Basic infantile logic. So we are infantile, just essence, as stage one of this, just here, within ourselves.

Stage two gets interesting, we start to look out, not just at the object of our hunger or lust but out at... ourselves. Now I don't remember how "far" hegel was positing the essence's vision of itself was from itself, but I decided somehow that the more distance, the more intense and interesting the effect might be. And I'd been practicing basic astral projection already - come outside your body, do basic exersizes for control practice, then go fly out in space to other planets and walk around. That itslef is a trip, so I think it oculd have been my original idea to introduce distance between stage one and two of kenosis, and I remeber writing that the greater the distance between stage one and two, the brighter the light that shines. This is how I learned to reach in and shine a bright light out of my mind that can beam to the ends of the universe and see and know everything, a light much brighter that the human organism was meant to hold, i think, and the light also surprised me in that it lit up the microscopic world all around me that the subconscious was supposed to withhold from us, the crawling hotel room, the demons all around us, it's not pretty.


So stage two, that night on the little triangular patio, was me looking at the moon, and on the moon I decided to place my vision of myself, for this experiment. First time I ever did it. I sat there, looking at the moon, picturing myself there, right there in a little triangular patio with a little green book and a drink on the table, up there in the middle of nowhere on the bright white moon. Maybe I loose people at this point, the college students I mean. Maybe I never explained to them about the astral projection aspect to this.

So if you can do that, see yourself over there on the moon, just cause that hellucination more or less, and focus on it for a little while, THAT is stage two.

>>13540765
And so here's stage three. Stage three, the "real" you right here on earth, above the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway, the essence, well, the "essence spills out", so this is a leap of thought, so the you right here with you the essence on the inside, this you is now that you, you just kind of imagine for a moment that the vision you were looking at on the moon is now this stuff right here. So it's like your hallucination got suddenly alot more vivid, cause now it's perception not hallucination. A moment ago you were trying to see yourself on the clear white pallate of the moon, and you were tiny in the field of vision, no matter how well you did in the hallucinating.

But suddenly it's all quite clear and life size. This is a mind experiment, a bracketing, a temporary suspension of disbelief, so that I temporarily believe that I am that me that I was just looking at on the moon, here I am, on the moon, I can take a sip of my drink, I can look at my hands, my arms, look at that I went to the moon and now I am there, have perception. I begin to look more closely at every little detail of my environment, cause, hell, this is the MOON!

And the hallucination that happened that first night, that never quite happened again, was I could see light, a hallucination of light emitting from my body, it was at the joints, I was standing there on thetrianguar patio "on the moon" bending my arms back and forth at the different joints cause I couldn't believe the light coming out of my body.

But I continued to do the experiment, not just to the moon but out to the other planets, the sun, the center of the galaxy (and the well mapped neighborhood around the black hole, like the molecular cloud saggitarius B2, the "large molecule heimat", or homeland, there that's a german term but it didn't come from hegel books it came from some astrophysics article years ago. I proceeded to other galaxies, other larger galaxy clusters, then the fateful trips to "redshift space", so far away it's in the past. Kenotic projection outside of time. that is a gateway to madness. And to this day, the practice of this mind experiment causes a burst of ghost bugs.

>>13540770
That night wasn't really my first, I had stumbled on this phenomena once early in grammar school, and registered the shock but didn't know how else to use it at the time. I'd been in my catholic school classroom, front row desk, daydreaming as always, for an extended period. Don't remember much of those daydreams of course - oh the girl I had a crush on or the pen and pencil as rocket ships, is what I remember ruminating about - but that day I remember that I was shocked by the kenotic spilling, as I sat there in class but drifted far away, in my vision I was walking home, doing stuff there, then walking to school, walking up the stairs, walking into the classroom and sitting down in my front row short guy seat, and then I realized - BOOM - I really am here, in my vision, here in the front row seat, taht was weird. I swear I first noticed the kenotic effect that day.

>>13540628
>>13540638
you are just making yourselves look bad

>>13540796
dilate

>>13540666
>>13540678
>Satan
>666
>horror soundtrack begins

what is there to say. where there’s truth and revelation about the inner workings of the great architect there can, by definition, be nothing else. Satan is the shadow of God, he is the mirror, and we fear this image, as we should, because you shall have no idols before Him. But those who push past fear have demons work for him to Gods bidding. But this is very dangerous shit. People can’t even do it if they wanted to. What happens was God choose these people because they were worthy, or, to say the same thing, they made themselves worthy by their works, by making contact, and they did very important work. This work, by the enemies of God, because of its perfect craft, reveals itself only to a just as perfect mirror, and as revenge, the heathens make a fear mongering of these works and people, this is their history, they were mocked, made to be laughed at, they were demonized, made to be feared. This is the great work of the righteous, they are the backbone of the word that is God, the Absolute, without division, comparison, or end

>>13540803
cope

>>13540683
Based

>>13540620
Pseud.

>>13540525
>finnegans wake

>>13540779
hello friend
your are here with me
on this couch
nice to meet you

>>13540638
>>13540628
>*blocks you're path*

>>13540668
>>13540735

>>13540535
Fuck. I just realized that I'm a cumbrain. How can I fix it?

>>13541247

>>13541276
Unplug from the internet.
Abstain.
Read.
Live in the woods if you have to. Disassociate from your environment where you did all of your porn usage.>>13541276

>>13541285

>>13540668
>>13540735
>>13541247
>>13541285
>>13541288

What is it about Hegel threads, in particular, which always attract this board's most ghoulish posters?

>>13541309
degenerate philosophers attract degenerate readers

>>13540613
>>13540683
>>13540991


holy based.

thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

>>13540525
>phenomeno
>doot doo, doo doo doo

>>13540618

Your previous shitpost about Dialectic being a mixture of Good and Evil was shitty and wrong enough.

>>13540525
I was surprised to find out that Hegel actually uses the word “dialectic” very rarely in this book. He certainly prefers describing his philosophy as “speculative” rather than “dialectical”

>>13542773
fool

Consciousness, awareness, intelligence, intuition, free will, etc., are all the result of the self-organizing property of matter.

Self organizing systems involves all forces acting in unison, better known as Leibniz's ;relational world', in which taken in isolation, space, time mass, force etc., means nothing, but taken together they convey a coherent theory. The 'universal spirit' representing 'universal consciousness', fine tuned creation and evolution of self organizing systems. At the big bang, dark matter and dark energy were created with opposite properties, followed by creation of particles and anti-particles, followed by creation of matter and anti-matter etc. Unity of Hegel's opposites, created elements, molecules, compounds, organic compounds, amino acids , genomes, cells, life and intelligence. Godel's incomplete theorem stems from incorporating the falsity of the true statement 'I am not a liar', much like 'God created Devil', deprives God the benefit of omnipotence, a source of confusion that seems insurmountable.

I believe in evolution, that is programmed to its own destruction, no matter how much you amalgamate eastern and western thought. As for a way of life, Buddhist contribution of nonviolence, human rights, rule of law, liberty, freedom etc., impressed the whole of civilized world, and its values accepted voluntarily, by subsequent thinkers. If modern civilization does not burn itself with radiation, a ten mile long rock will get us anyway. We are the product of the extinction of other species, after us new and improved life form will emerge and I will not repent.

Hegelian pair of opposites 'sequential and simultaneity', expresses everything, that time does not flow and space is a point from which everything emanates. Hegel also held that 'evolution is a dialectical process'. In the ancient Sanatan (eternal) religion preached by mortal Krishna of the Jadu tribe (to which I belong), recently dated to 11,000 bp, in which God Vishnu is attributed the 'cause of the evolution of the world' [Vishnu Purana, translated by H.H.Wilson, London 1840], with his three steps of creation, preservation and destruction. Science is the divine gift to mankind, that helps me not to be a nihilist, but a scientist, who has the capacity to grasp God's fine tuned universl creation in which he delivers life and evolution with probability ONE.

dab on hegel

>>13540779

Why is Hegel so based?

>>13540746
>Implying boomers know who Hegel is

>>13546714
He addressed everything and then some

>>13546305
the right can't meme

>>13540608
correct, but why you writing that dumb shit

hegel is responsible for everything that happened in the 20th century and hod knows how much of the 21st

Why is literally EVERY hegelfag a schizo?

Und die Anerkennung der Besten
Fehlt ihren Bestrebungen nicht,
Denn fern im schwäbischen Westen
Der Böblinger Repsbauer spricht:
»Gott segn' euch, ihr trefflichen Vögel,
An der fernen Guanoküst', –
Trotz meinem Landsmann, dem Hegel,
Schafft ihr den gediegensten Mist!«

>>13548941

Although it is not as famous as British Idealism, there was also American Hegelianism. There were the Ohio Hegelians Peter Kaufmann (1800-1869), August Willich (1810-1878), John Bernhard Stallo (1823-1900), and Moncure Daniel Conway (1832-1907) as well as the St Louis Hegelians Henry Conrad Brokmeyer (1828-1906), William Torrey Harris (1835-1909), Thomas Davidson (1840-1900), and Denton Snider (1841-1925). While there were many similarities and connections between these persons and the American Transcendentalists, the Hegelians believed that the Transcendentalists focused attention unduly on the individual and so missed the importance of society. Although their views are different enough that they can't be considered a school, these Hegelians attempted to interpret America's history in light of Hegel's philosophy, seeing the Civil War, for example, in light of the lord/bondsman section of the Phenomenology of Spirit. Also Josiah Royce (1855-1916), an idealist who taught at Harvard University for many years.

>>13540618
So is Satan right then? Because between the Phenomenology and The Bible, the former is far more subtle, nuanced and well-reasoned.