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Books that will convince me that good people have it better in the afterlife or reincarnation? I'm thinking that reincarnation makes no sense because a lot of the pleasures in life are 'bad', like promiscuous sex, so if a man has good karma, why would he reincarnate as a man who gets the 'sweet' parts of life when they will bring him bad karma again?

>> No.13539096

>>13539089
wait, promiscuous sex with women brings bad karma?? I'm so fucked, then.

>> No.13539129

Rest assured that there is no such thing as an afterlife or reincarnation

>> No.13539135

>>13539129
Better stop reading philosophy then and focus on your physical reality.

>> No.13539148

>>13539135
Philosophy helps you understand better physical reality

>> No.13539158

>>13539089
>because a lot of the pleasures in life are 'bad', like promiscuous sex,
What a nonsense meme.

>> No.13539174

>>13539148
Why would you even bother reading 'philosophy' if you don't believe in the afterlife? You might as well try and have the best time you can since you are so sure that when you die nothing happens.
>>13539158
You are not wise

>> No.13539183

>>13539174
>have the best time you can since you are so sure that when you die nothing happens
You still should consider how to spend the time that you have.

>> No.13539192

>afterlife
>the Hereafter

learn the difference and become one with the Lord. Through him is the way to blessedness and Eternal life

>> No.13539197

>>13539192
Talking like you are from Tudor England and quoting Jews won't persuade me, but if you tell me the metaphysics I might support you.

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>>13539174
>Why would you even bother reading 'philosophy' if you don't believe in the afterlife?

>> No.13539207

>>13539206
If one, longing for sensual pleasure, achieves it, yes, he's enraptured at heart. The mortal gets what he wants. But if for that person — longing, desiring — the pleasures diminish, he's shattered, as if shot with an arrow.

- Buddha

>> No.13539219

>>13539207
>Pithy Epicurus quote.jpg

>> No.13539225

>>13539089
I can assure you with my superior intellect that it is falsehood. You see, people born of unfortunate circumstances can do little good, but gravitate towards doing bad in order to survive and ensure the security of their family. Therefore, each generation would not only have more people born into unfortunate circumstances, but born into even worse circumstances then their previous incarnations, making it even harder to do good, more likely to do bad. With my intellect I can recognize this as not only an exponential function, but an asymptotic one. As we all know, human history has been filled with strife and the struggle to survive. Over dozens of thousands of years and a hundred billion lives I can ascertain that if karma and reincarnation were real, the entirety of the human race would have already turned into tortured cockroaches. Seeing as that is not the case, the concept of reincarnation isn't true. Q.E.D

>> No.13539239

>>13539197
We are all made in the image of God: body, mind (soul), and spirit. When we die, the body decays, the mind continues on into perpetuity, and the spirit, given to us by God to communicate (and also commune) with God invariably returns to God. The body will always die, the spirit will always return to God, but the soul, a product of sin, must be redeemed of its sin in order to once again be with God, an inherently sinless (holy) triune Being.

>> No.13539267

>>13539225
The cycle of reincarnation continues because of our ancestors. You have no disproved reincarnation, only that we are stuck in reincarnation because of our ancestors.
>>13539239
How can you be made in the image of God if your soul is not complete?

>> No.13539287

>>13539267
>How can you be made in the image of God if your soul is not complete?
I’m not sure what you mean, but being made in the image of something does not mean that we are copies of God, because there is only one God. The only analogy I can make is that you’re made in the image of your parents, but even if your parents were perfect in every way, there’s no guarantee will be also.

>> No.13539292

>>13539287
*no guarantee you will be also.

>> No.13539324

>>13539287
>being made in the image of something does not mean that we are copies

'made in the image' literally means copies? The analogy is false because the goodness of a man, or the 'perfection', is not only based on the genetic quality but also on our minds which have a degree of freedom from qualities our parents may have.

>> No.13539335

>>13539158
butterfly don't take this personally but you're the worst tripfag of all time and I would rape you if I got the chance

>> No.13539350

>>13539267
All souls combined comprise the soul of God.

>> No.13539359

>>13539267
But how can that be? Almost every generation in history has had more humans in it than the last. Can a soul be reincarnated multiple times?

>> No.13539365

>>13539335
Forced sexual assault is reasonable and good.
Violence in general also considered good.
Enjoying sex is sinful.

Christianity, ladies and gentlemen. An infectious disease

>> No.13539383

Well there's The Bible obviously.
Although spoiler, it stops short of assuring you that @MadisinBeer will let you inhale her pussy in the after life just because you stopped lying to everyone in this lifetime although it certainly couldn't hurt.

>> No.13539393

>>13539324
If you make a robot in the image of a man, is that robot a copy of that man? Obviously not. The same thing applies in relation to God, except that we’re not unthinking robots but beings with free will.

>> No.13539405

>>13539350
Would that mean God is not complete or ongoing if he is reduced to being the souls of all men?
>>13539359
The living are more numerous than the dead since the dead no longer exists...Snce the universe is a self-refining entity, that which is teleologically valid in the informational construct called “you” may be locally re-injected or redistributed in spacetime. In principle, this could be a recombinative process, with the essences of many people combining in a set of local injections or “reincarnations” (this could lead to strange effects…e.g., a single person remembering simultaneous “past lifetimes”).
>>13539393
It would not be a robot but be a man, since it is in our image.

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>>13539335
That is exactly what it wants

>> No.13539428

>>13539365
>some guy on 4chan saying something stupid
>"Is this christianity?"

Ostracizing christians for the actions and sayings of some, is good.
Promoting the destruction of churches and communities is woke.

However, even though the Quran explicitly justifies the genocide of infidels (including you butterfly) and the opression of women, to even suggest that Islam is dangerous is the equivalent of a thoughtcrime.

Intersectional Liberalism, ladies and gentleman. An infectious disease.

>> No.13539434

>>13539365
I'm not a Christian so nothing holds me back from raping you except the law (hence if I got the chance)

>> No.13539443

>>13539365
Seems like this naughty girls is in need of some good old Christian flagellation ;8)

>> No.13539444

>>13539365
Why would violence be bad?
It is part of nature

>> No.13539463

>>13539444
Most animals don't have the sentience to make the choice between sense and senselessness. A human who chooses cruelty despite being able to conceive other alternative paths is bad.

>> No.13539486

>>13539463
What if the man chooses violence in order to 'stop' other evil? What about the good man who does not have a baby, whilst bad men have babies? Is that good man no longer good?

>> No.13539501

>>13539463
>choice between sense and senselessness
The choice between being your true self or being brainwashed by society.

>> No.13539507

>>13539428
BASED

>> No.13539510

>>13539501
Brainwashed in what sense? Brainwashed to hold faith in a complex social system made up of ideas and laws constructed of thousands of years of human thought, whose solitary goal is to promote the meaning of human lives and reduce their suffering?

>> No.13539525

tibetan book of the dead

>> No.13539536 [DELETED] 

kill

all

whore-posters

>> No.13539561

>>13539510
>goal is to promote the meaning of human lives and reduce their suffering?
The goal is to control the slaves and make them more productive.

>> No.13539653

>>13539536
based
cumbrains will be the first to go on the dotr

>> No.13539805

>>13539225
Uh have you seen how many roaches and pests there are, it's like they've grown along with the human population.

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13539844

Still haven't found the answer to that one OP, but one verse from the Bible has helped me.
>To whom much is given, much will be required.
God has given you the patience to endure life without its sweets. Life is not the trail of treats, but a broken and dangerous path. But such a path is sometimes the only one that can help you look at whats beyond.
>Suffering is the qualitative expression of heterogeneity with this world. In this heterogeneity rests the relationship to eternity. Where there is no suffering there is no eternity's consciousness either....It is in suffering that God keeps a person wakeful for eternity. -Soren Kierkegaard.
If the shadows amuse you and indulge you, there is less need to turn around.
Of course with all of this its very easy to view it as a massive cope, but its at least an explanation.

>> No.13539855

>>13539096
I on the other hand am completely safe.
>tfw autism is saving your soul

>> No.13539870

>>13539158
I'm not surprised butterfly is a hedonist.

>> No.13539887

>>13539844
>There there is no suffering there is no eternity's consciousness either

Which makes God evil.

>> No.13539897

>>13539855
Nah you are probably just ugly

>> No.13539911

>>13539897
Am I ugly if all I atract are average-looking girls but the really hot ones? I know they feel atracted to me but sadly I'm not atracted to them.

>> No.13539947

>>13539911
Post pic of what you consider average.
> I know they feel atracted to me
How?
Also, you know that men tend to perceive signs of interest on the part of women even though it isn't the case.

>> No.13539994

>>13539947
>Post pic of what you consider average.
Average would be not ugly but not quite pretty. Middle ground. Fuckable, but not a dream girl.
>Also, you know that men tend to perceive signs of interest on the part of women even though it isn't the case.
Perhaps, but my male friends tell me these girls think I'm cute and they try to get close to be by conversation or some other excuse. I know more or less the difference between politeness and attraction but in reality I'm a fucking autist who could get laid easily but not with the girls I want. It's shite.

>> No.13540017

>>13539089
Most importantly good people have it better now.
"Pleasure" is literally a drug, with severe side effects.

>> No.13540028

>>13539897
I'm actually handsome, surprisingly. I often get called handsome and cute by women not in my family. It's not so rare girls come up to me and try hitting on me but I always sperg out and get cockblocked by some unforseen circumstance.

Like this time a girl started hitting on me by saying I looked gay, we started dancing, I was about to kiss her (weird I know, we were both piss-drunk) then another, prettier girl came and snatched me. I thought she wanted my dick but she just said "you can't fuck her dude she's too ugly, have you seen her nose?".
I guess she was pissed because her boyfriend had decided to dump her by text that night and so she decided she wouldn't let people get laid in front of her.
It's always more or less like this.

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>>13539089
There is probably no afterlife or reincarnation. If there is I would be surprised but sadly I think there is no reward for my pointless life. When I think about it a bit I really dont want any of it. After three and half decades of my existence I just want to die and dont want to deal with any replays of this genetic death end link and i am too tired for any kind of afterlife. If I wouldnt change and my experience as of now I would keep with all my knowledge then if there is some kind of afterlife I hope I can choose to die there and be forgotten. I dont want to play this game at all no matter what dimension level I am.

>> No.13540113

quran, bible, torah, Buddhist quran