/lit/ - Literature

>>13501551
I despise noise, it is an eternal struggle for me to deal with people and their infernal fans, I dont mind heat at all, I am never too hot, but the sound of fans, especially the bigger ones just annoys the shit out of me. But it feels selfish because people clearly really dont like being too hot and I am the odd one out.

>>13501551
what a cunt

>>13501564
> it is an eternal struggle for me

That's how I'd describe it.
That's why I NEED my own house. Living with family is hell.

>>13501551
dumb seething g*rm

>>13501551
didn't he almost killed a neighbor because of noise?
he is still fortunate that there weren't radios or cars

Not even libraries are safe nowadays, since normalfags only use it as a computer and/or hangout spot.

And there aren't any quiet cafes near me either ;_;

>>13501652
Yep, it was a woman. He kicked her ass.

>>13501669
Based

>On the other side of that, you speak quite often of the loss of silence.
>CIORAN: It’s an obsession, I think. I consider the loss of silence extremely serious. For twenty-five years I lived in hotels in Paris, and the noise, I could have killed someone. I consider the disappearance of silence as one of the symptoms of the end of humanity.

Went to a Beethoven concert last week, was really excited about it, but just at the moment when silence carried the most meaning some douchebag started rustling some plastic wrapper or something. First I thought it was for a cough drop and let it be, but it kept reappearing every 30 seconds with no sign as to where it's coming from, and kept going until the end. Ruined the entire day for me.

>>13501698
where's that from

>>13502359
I went to see The Art of Fugue performed by a chamber orchestra lately and I was seated near a literal retard rustling the program paper the entire time and trying to hum along to the music out of key. Literally ruined the whole thing for me. Why someone like that was even there in the first place I don't know. Something like this almost always happens when I go to the concert. If it's not some boomer coughing, it's someone rustling paper or some kid crying out of boredom.

>>13502384
>art of fugue NOT on organ
ew

>>13501551
I'm a big fan of field recording and find it to be a useful practice in a number of different ways - not least to build an awareness of noise pollution levels in one's living space. There's a lot of great writing about it, and it can go in a direction of ecology, ethnography, journalism - whatever. You can get into the subject/object boundary-blurring and the consensuality of receiving sound, modes of triangulating and identifying wildlife through remote sensing, or compose sounds from demonstrations, the city, and interviews into a protest piece. The implications of "listening" are manifold.
some great reading off the top:

>The Soundscape - R. Murray Schafer
>In The Field: The Art of Field Recording - Cathy Lane
great essays, one from Timothy Morton on the "life" of "earworms": basically catchy phrases - https://www.wfae.net/uploads/5/9/8/4/59849633/sscapevol15_v2.pdf
essential one from Hildegard Westerkamp, early follower of the movement, on physical practice - http://www.sfu.ca/~westerka/writings%20page/articles%20pages/soundwalking.html
https://soundcloud.com/liquid_architecture/anja-kanngieser-listening-to-the-anthropocene-sound-and-ecological-crisis
https://soundstudiesblog.com/2015/08/20/unsettling-the-world-soundscape-project-soundscapes-of-canada-and-the-politics-of-self-recognition/
https://grrrr.org/data/edu/20110509-cascone/Cascone-grainField_BETA_GOLDfix.pdf
http://earthear.com/aboutesa.html
http://nula.cc/
http://jonasgru.sk/start
http://www.janawinderen.com/

and one last excellent podcast combining radio history, field recording, postcolonial theory - https://www.fulcrum.org/concern/monographs/rx913r17x?locale=en

>>13502431
I'll have to check these links out later, thanks anon!

Right now the only sounds I can hear are raindrops falling and the distant sound of sheep's bells, perfect setting for reading, writing or being on /lit/

I'm an artist who was driven to the edge of madness because of my cackling witch of a neighbor. She would scream at her beta husband but that was nowhere as annoying as her laugh, which would reverberate through my house every few seconds, and would literally go on the entire day

>>13501551
:D But actually he would argue that "noise", especially the great howling of a forest or a waterfall is a good example of Will. This is tied well to his notion to the sublime. He is actually of the noisiest philosophers along with Pythagoras and Nietzsche.
>>13501667
here is a field recording of my library this week. there is some slight repair work going
https://soundcloud.com/nqmanikoi/chetvrta-chitalnya
>>13502431
as an enthusiast, I'm much tankful for this.
I'm interested the way acoustic surroundings produce from (social) bodies and how in listening we create a mirror not only in terms of aesthetics appreciation, but also in terms of recognition - that yes, this is real, this is just a field recording. I also wanted to specialize in ethnomusicology, but there isn't really a field for this here.
I'm also putting some shows up - one is about dogs, with recordings of shelters superimposed and distorted over city noise and smalltalk. The other is about my run-down neighborhood and it's space. After I finish collecting material and have enough of it (around 12 hours I hope) I will try to expose in the abandoned cinema with some visual art.
I'm also working on my skills with pure_data so I can work on installations and ambient vibes.

>>13501551
sensory deprivation is much worse

Guys, this might be the solution, at least for when we're trying to read or study at home:

https://www.techradar.com/news/audio/portable-audio/best-noise-cancelling-headphones-1280490

>>13501551
>Who else here /hatesnoise/?

Not our boy Seneca.

>>13502360

You might find it in a book called 'Writing At Risk: Interviews Uncommon Writers'.

>>13501551
Autistic people are especially sensitive to loud noises

As a fellow autist I hate noise too, except paradoxically I need the sound of a jet engine to lull me asleep.

There is no such thing as silence. Something is always happening that makes a sound. No one can have an idea once he starts really listening.

>>13501551
yeah, sound can literally make me shut down and have an autistic breakdown of sorts. i'm really hypersensitive to stimuli, and also have sound synesthesia where I'll see shapes, experience textures/motions etc. in response to sound input.

>>13501551
loud people really, REALLY fucking annoy me sometimes

>>13502557
>awful noises that grate on the ears
Looks like he hated noise as well, but reckoned that it shouldn't keep you from doing scholarly activities

>>13502360
>>13502561
here's the full interview since the book is out of print
https://www.itinerariesofahummingbird.com/e-m-cioran.html

>>13501551
I only dislike the sound of television, it babbles on and on

>>13503208
I dislike the any noise when I'm trying to focus on something. I think that's universal, though.

>>13501551
Yup. Hate noise. Sadly I live among people who make tons of it without remorse.
>>13501573
Fuck you, retard. You've never had an intelligent thought in your life, no wonder you don't mind incessant noise.
>>13501652
Yup. All the nature provided more insulation as well. Too bad people had to destroy the nature so we could build roads, burger restaurants and so they could cram more houses into a suburb.
>>13501698
Based.

>>13502478
I'm surprised that there's someone else on here who's into it! I'd love to hear some of the work you've done - sorry that you've been thwarted in your pursuit of ethnomusicology. Earlier this year I got a small grant to work with youth in the Seri community along the coast of the Gulf of California, where I taught them to use shotgun mics, contact mics and hydrophones I'd been able to buy with the cash. We went around recording elements of three biomes in their surrounding ecosystem, then trolled the village for elders who still knew the power songs associated with flora/fauna from those biomes, recorded those, and merged the two in individual soundscapes. It was a transformative experience that I never anticipated. These people are very aural, too: they say they hear the wind in cactus spines, and the drops from the tail of a breaching whale. Unfortunately I can't publish it publicly, otherwise I'd love to share!

Can you tell me a little more about your projects, inspiration, methods? If you're intrigued by the myriad influences of space, time, and thought on a sound, I highly recommend reading the "HVAC" article in the first link I shared. More than just about anything else I've seen, it evokes the shared ecological nature of listening.

I like how Schopenhauer likes to make quotations all the time from at least 4 different languages and my edition does not contain any fucking footnotes

>>13501551
i hate this guy more with every little thing i learn about him

schopenhauer was a fucking pussy

>>13501551
>...How many great and splendid thoughts, I should like to know, have been lost to the world by the crack of a whip?
Nietzsche's thoughts.

>>13503976
I'm not the guy you replied too but your field work sounds really interesting, will you be able to post it on here at some point when you're finished?

>>13501564
i use a fan to drown out the noise of two different tv sets going at once in my house. it's the only way i cope with living my with braindead family

>>13504083
Shhh. Be quiet.

>>13501667
>local library has a dedicated quiet room
>skimming through some books in there
>boomer and his kid are in the quiet room
>kid is in the corner playing nintendo switch with volume on
>boomer starts receiving a phone call
>slowly pulls his phone out and stares at the screen while it's ringing
>fat indian guy clearing his throat and grumbling every 5 seconds

what's it like to have no self-awareness?

>>13501551
I don’t usually get distracted by monotonous sounds of the ambient, but shit like the tv on, conversations, or my sisters checking her instagram or youtube with full volume on their phones makes me angry.

>>13504117
nice

>>13501652
or black people

>>13504076
He almost always rephrases it in his own words right before quoting it

>>13501551
Absolutely true. I have misophonia, especially of people chewing food with their mouths open. Gum is the worst offender but luckily I haven't heard much in a few years. Other small sounds like dripping water drive me insane as well. Dogs, wimpering/barking, babies crying, basically any other repetitive sound.

>>13504083
the Virgin Schopenhauer vs the Chad Goethe

>>13504168
>go to uni library to read a book in quiet
>guy next to me doing homework on his computer
>breathing loudly from his mouth, sniffing his nose, smacking his lips and tongue every few seconds
>can't put up with it, put on headphones to avoid being further distracted
>he gestures at me and then comes up to me saying my headphones are too loud and annoying and tells me to either turn it down or leave like he's a security guard or something
Hypocritical jackass, can hear music coming from headphones ten feet away but can't hear his own nigger-tier lip smacking

>>13502478
Бългapия?

>>13501667
This hurts.

I used to love going to my local library until a few years ago. Now, whenever I go, all I can hear is those fucking DING! and tweety-bird noises that smartphones make.

>DING!
>DING!
>[BIRD WHISTLE]
>DING!
>[BIRD WHISTLE]
>[BIRD WHISTLE]
>DING!

These people should be shot.

>>13501698
Funny, as a Frenchman I've had the exact same thought, with regard to the growing trans-Mediterranean presence in France. Maghrebis and Africans love blasting music, speaking very loudly, etc, in any public setting and at any hour of the day. It's the end of civilisation.

>>13502557
That's so fucking gay

>>13501698
B&R

>>13502570
I'm not autistic, I just have excellent hearing and am distracted by any erratic noises.

>>13503315
>Fuck you, retard. You've never had an intelligent thought in your life, no wonder you don't mind incessant noise.
>replies with ''based'' to another anon

>>13502860
Which is why I propose we genocide all Italians.

>>13504271
>final exams in the dead of winter
>the auditorium is filled with a chorus of dozens of people sniffling, with no break in sight
makes me want to kms every time

>>13505909

It's not though.

>>13501564
>t. HSP

>>13501564
I am always too hot and cannot sleep without the white noise of a fan.

I love noise.

>>13501698
No such thing as silence.

>>13506229
There are a lot of acronyms that pop up when I put that into google, not sure which one you mean
>>13507634
You are my opposite then, I love heat, I love the sun, if I get hot I just sweat which feels nice to me, though I also love cold, because it makes my body activate and start running harder. I think I just regulate temperature way better than most people, I love northern winters and southern summers, it's all great to me.

Noise however can go fuck itself, i want complete silence, just pure nothing. Probably an effect of time spent in the country as a child which is so quiet compared to the city it's crazy.

>>13507649
I fucking hate John Cage.

>>13507651
I grew up in a large metropolitan area so noise was constant. I could actually hear my neighbors phone ring from across the street. It didn’t bother me until I got older and experienced tranquility and quiet that I realized what a luxury it was.

Curious, where do you live? I live in the southwest which is why im too hot most of the time.

>>13505956
Yikes, cringe and bluepilled.

>>13507658
Then why are you listening to his music right now?

>>13507651
>There are a lot of acronyms that pop up when I put that into google, not sure which one you mean
highly sensitive person

>>13507921
highly sensitive eat my dick id put you in the fucking ground you fucking faggot

>>13505956
based

>>13507871
>his music
No such thing.

bump

>>13507649
Best post ITT. Noise is pretty and comfy.

>>13501551

White noise I'm fine with. Talking, followed by music with lyrics, followed by music are the worst, because my brain forces me to focus on them.

I have noise cancelling headphones, love 'em, wear them most of my waking moments unless I'm socializing or interacting with co-workers. They're basically glued to my head.