/lit/ - Literature

>>13480175

>>13480175
>it's real

He's an Arab larping as a Mediterranean/phoenician.

>>13480175
Well, he is not wrong

he's right
t. med bvll

deep slavic soul meme with med twist
lol

Fuck the greeks.

Stop making fun of my dad. Or else.

Taleb is right and neetdom is the key to accessing the Mediterranean Weltanschauung as a subject of global capitalism

Are Latin Americans "Meds"? We have that same work ethic.

>>13480175
>>13480178
Nietzsche has already said all of this.

>>13480175
>an employee of Goldman Sachs is of lower status than a local doctor
that's the case everywhere

i'm also lazy as shit. maybe i should try 23&me.

>>13480175
He's unironically right.

>people still pretend Taleb isn't a pseud and treat him as some sort of gatekeeper
fucking pathetic
skin in the game LMAO

>>13480175
whining on twitter in english doesn't sound very "med"
a "med" would just have a surly grumble with four or five family members in the wine cellar of their house

literally everything he said is true though

t. med

He's right, but completely wrong about France.

>>13480325
how so

>>13480331
Southern French are pretty mediterranean in all the respects he mentioned.

>>13480175
He's right but it's still cringe. Cringe and redpilled if you will.
Also how does Twitter manage to rot brains so fast? He used to be legit interesting at some point.

>>13480175

Oh and how many Nobel prizes do Meds win? It's a Germanic world, he's just winning it.

>>13480381
>It's a Germanic world
Yes, but this wasn't the case until very recently (300 years max). Med countries have dominated the world for millennia.

>>13480184
North arabs are meds, dundun. Levant is half arab if not more.

>>13480178
>disrespect hard work but respect success
based meds. germanics have shudra mentality

>salve at the end

>>13480246
Umm... No

>>13480175
>implying anyone has envied the Meds in the last 2000 years
>a short creativity spasm during the Renaissance but more like a last death-rattle
>implying they're not the most corrupt, bankrupt and lazy countries in Europe
Also, take this back to /pol/

>>13480186
He's wrong about the french tho, Occitan was not exactly a "spot" but almost half the country, that's not exactly a Germanic language and culture.

>>13480411
>sacks your capital
>does it again lmao

>>13480995
this. he’s obviously never read count of montecristo if he thinks french can’t be meds

>>13480230
We'rw basically honorary Meds

racist mfer

>>13480178
>disrespect hard work and respect success
sorry I don't fall for either of those spooks

>>13480381
>>13480411
>>13481002
The world is English. The English invented modern science and modern metaphysics through Bacon, Boyle, Newton, etc. English is the most spoken language and the primary religion of the West is English Christianity.

>>13481035
in your dreams, paco

>>13480246
everywhere except jew york

He's a guy who worships ancient Rome and Greece. Desperately wants to be part of that legacy rather than facing the truth: he is a conquered Arab.

>>13480175
>>13480178
For a man saying that you have to be racially med to understand its culture, i don't understand why did he chimp out about IQ saying it was racist and terrible eugenics. What an imbecile arab.

He's right.

t. med

>>13480246
It should be, but is not. In most social circles of the United States prestige is based entirely on the brand name of your company, and your personal wealth. The only exception is for start-ups, and the prestige of a start-up has an almost 1:1 ratio with the prestige of the investment company. Pixar is made cooler because it was funded by Steve Jobs, even though this establishes quite clearly that it was only supported and promoted as a technological demonstration of Apple products, which, under ordinary circumstances, should delegitimize some portion of their success.

>>13481660
He's wrong, though. Culture changes. This attitude exists now in much of the Mediterranean, but was not found in the ancient Mediterranean. You can't culturally claim human laziness. Do you think this attitude is different than the attitude in India, or Afghanistan, or Africa, or Russia, or Brazil? This attitude is the baseline attitude of civilization, and the only reason the Mediterranean cultures are valued at all is because of the incredible things they did before they adopted this attitude, which has kept them in a general malaise for generations.

>>13481705
ancient romans and greeks had contempt for work. why do you think slavery was so rampant in ancient med cultures compared to ancient germanic cultures? you think when cato is praising the agricultural country life he actually is implying that you should do the work yourself? lmao being a patrician farmer means having the slaves do the farming for you

>>13481624
He's not talking about being "racially" meditteranean (that doesn't mean anything) but culturally, so speaking a mediterranean language, having been raised in a mediterannean country, etc.

>>13481733
he spends so much time on twitter trying to prove how he isn't an arab genetically, but actually a southern european. if race didn't mean anything for him he wouldn't be so mad at being called 'arab'. so yeah, his pic is about race. the french speak a mediterranean language, and in some parts, is closely related to the mediterranean, yet, they are "trying" to become meds, in his view, because they're not racially meds but just germanics speaking latin.

>>13481705
You're confusing work with worthy leisure. Doing mathematics for your own enjoyment and enlightenment was not considered work, not at all. Even up until the Renaissance the greatest European mathematicians weren't professionals and they weren't "working" on maths, they were doing maths like one does meditation, for its own sake and for the intellectual and spiritual fulfillment it brings. They were essentially gifted and committed mateurs.

Working in the ancient sense is toiling to gain your subsistance. Incurrent 4chan lingo this is what is referred to as wagecuckery.

The daily occupations of patrician Romans were business (in the sense of concluding deals, not running a business) and politics. Both were more about socializing with the right people and discussing laws and ideas than accomplishing any kind of hard work. But businesss was considered inferior still to noble leisure. The latin word for business is "negotium" (which has given us for instance "negotiation"), and the word for leisure is "otium". So business is literally what you do when you're not enjoying yourself doing something worthy in itself. Leisure is the reference, and business the inferior mode. As for hard work it is literally a slave's thing.

>>13481778
I'm not talking about his others tweet, but that pic is not about race, he only mentions language (though indeed he s wong to say French is a Germanic language, not to mention the many others languages spoken in France).

The french also have their own culture which isn't exclusively mediterranean, so while he's putting thing in unnecessarily offensive terms ("trying to") it's not wrong that many people raised in France, no matter their ethnicity, will not be culturally mediterranean.

>>13480361
Southern France isn't France

AHEM
FUCK BUTTER PEOPLE

>>13481885
It's part of France and has been for a very long time. And don't meme me with some retarded saying like "people in the South" or any retarded /pol/ talking point because I'll fucking kill you.

>>13482087
*"people in the South aren't Europeans"
Don't get any ideas, I'll still fucking kill you.

>>13482095
They're 70% Yuropoors

>>13480895
>>disrespect hard work
It's about sprezzatura. You grind hard in private, but in public you say "eh, that was nothing."

>>13480178
based and medpilled

>>13480178
>>13480175
I'm Croatian. Do I count as Med?

>>13481828
>otium
This is an interesting point but it's certainly possible that this is just linguistic coincidence.

>>13482723
we're aryans

>>13481828
>>13481726
Both of you are confusing ordinary human nature and universal class behavior with culture. All people like comfort and dislike exerting effort. People only exert effort when it is deemed worthwhile. Lower class people, almost by definition, exert physical energy for food and entertainment, and generally don't consider any other use of energy particularly worthwhile, except maybe sports. (Competition is extremely motivating to men.) The upper class, almost by definition, finds physical labor demeaning, and values intellectual labor so highly that it is almost always considered a pastime to some extent. The middle class is always a transitory class of rising and falling and is almost always, by definition, defined by competition in non-physical resources and effort. That's just human society. Mediterraneans aren't special for being like this. It's within this structure that cultural difference appears. Ancient mediteranaen cultures leaned much more towards maximalism. Whatever one was doing, excellence was to be strived for. Obviously an over simplification, but hopefully you get the point. Today in the Mediterranean, excellence has been redefined so as to essentially allow a lack of effort to stand in for superiority. This too is not unique in history to the Mediterraneans, but is rather a common trend among decadent cultures.

>>13480175
He is a racial "supremacist" (who is clinging to a literal fake identity, much more nebulous than "white", because it makes him feel good), which is kinda based.
I wished that I could be as upfront about the Germanics (just switching most things to the opposite in his tirade gives you a good idea).

>>13481733
>culturally, so speaking a mediterranean language, having been raised in a mediterannean country, etc.
Literally the fakest identity I have ever heard of, compared to that "white" seems like a crystal clear category.

>>13480230
You are "med" diaspora, about as "med" as Americans are "white", which means "not at all".

Today in... Useless Autistic Rants

>>13481579
spaniards are also named paco, though, which furthers the point.

>>13480178
>French
>Germanics
They’re Gauls lol

>>13480178
Also the French will become fully Mediterranean when Italian men decide to send every second born son to France and marry a French women. It would be even easier with Occitan Independence.

>>13481885
Kek, reminds me of that Huysmans quotation from "Là-bas":

>La guerre de Cent Ans ç’a été, en somme, la guerre du Sud contre le Nord. L’Angleterre, à cette époque, c’était la Normandie qui l’avait autrefois conquise et dont elle avait conservé et le sang, et les coutumes, et la langue. À supposer que Jeanne d’Arc ait continué ses travaux de couture auprès de sa mère, Charles VII était dépossédé et la guerre prenait fin. […]. Il y aurait eu ainsi un unique et puissant royaume du Nord, s’étendant jusqu’aux provinces de la langue d’oc, englobant tous les gens dont les goûts, dont les instincts, dont les mœurs étaient pareils. Au contraire, le sacre du Valois à Reims a fait une France sans cohésion, une France absurde. Il a dispersé les éléments semblables, cousu les nationalités les plus réfractaires, les races les plus hostiles. Il nous a dotés, et pour longtemps, hélas ! de ces êtres au brou de noix et aux yeux vernis, de ces broyeurs de chocolat et mâcheurs d’ail, qui ne sont pas du tout des Français, mais bien des Espagnols ou des Italiens. En un mot, sans Jeanne d’Arc, la France n’appartenait plus à cette lignée de gens fanfarons et bruyants, éventés et perfides, à cette satanée race latine que le diable emporte !

>>13482724
It isn't, "negotium" comes from "nec otium", ie "not leisure".

>>13480230
Castizos would probably be genetically clustered next to Latin Europe; Americas are all West Eurasians so they essentially come from the same ancestors as Southern Europeans. The African component really fucked Latin America big time.

>>13483038
>Also the French will become fully Mediterranean when Italian men decide to send every second born son to France
Or just wait a couple of Generations, "meds" are already all over Paris and it does seem like it is turning into Algeria, very med.

>>13483058
You clearly haven't been to Paris lately. It's going full sub-Saharan.

I think he's right

t. med

>>13483058
Well my solution is obviously not possible right now. I rather have mongols invade. When Muslims invade a territory they fuck it up big time. Just compare Muslim Expansion to the Hajanal line and then compare the Hajanal line to the Soviet Union (big red pill) Muslims end up making the gender balance lopsided where there are more men then women; mongols don’t do this.

>>13483069
I think he's an arab who uses bigger words than his brain can handle

t. germanic

>I'M SOOO MED AND RADICAL DUDE, HERE, LET ME WRITE IN ENGLISH, THE MED LANGUAGE BY EXCELLENCE

>>13483093
Muslims are largely med's thought.
Islam seems to be a very med religion.

>>13483067
>It's going full sub-Saharan.
But there is also a significant population of Algerians, the Sub-Saharans are mostly recent arrivals.

>>13483118
Just imagine how cucked you must be to spew fourth how much of a "med" you are, but do it in a Germanic language.

This goes to the meds in this thread too, remind yourself who's language you speak.

>>13480178
>THEY DONT WANNA GRIND THEY JUST WANNA BE THE MAN
Meds are practically niggers?

>>13483119
That’s not my point.

>>13483127
Yeah, there are loads of Maghrebis but nowadays it seems like the bulk of new arrivals in Paris (and elsewhere in France, including areas until recently relatively untouched by immigration like Brittany) is sub-Saharans.

He's wrong, the mediterranean is a shithole, get me out of here

I'm a mix of North Italian and South Italian, I can appreciate both med and germanic cultures, feels good.

t. Argentinian.

>>13483119
My plan for France to become more of a Mediterranean nation would be to have a few institutions set up. One would be to have French-Italian adoptions so the Italian child can take a French surname and be raised French. Two would be to have second born sons and daughters migrate themselves as long as they take a French surname. If France Balkanized then it would be even easier to assimilate to the new respective regions. It would be a longer process but would emulate Caesars invasion of Gaul.

>>13483208
>I can appreciate both med and germanic cultures
Literally everyone can do that.

>>13483228
Nope, Taleb has a point.

>>13480175
>claims nords can't understand meds
>later on makes huge claims about nords implying meds CAN understand nords even tho the reverse doesn't apply
>thinks all meds are equivalent
>not making a distinction between european, asiatic and african meds and the various places they blend into each other (greece/turkey = euroasiatic; egypt = afro-asiatic, etc)
>asiactic meds (nassim) can understand european meds (lmao)
>asiactic meds can understand nords (LMAO)
>tfw he isn't even asiactic med at all and he is an arab larping as a lebanese greek

HAHAHAHA fuck this guy

I'm stating to think Taleb is a racial supremacist

>>13483246
Nope. He says you can't be a Med unless you're one. He never mentioned appreciation of cultures. And you're not a Med, you're Argentine, you didn't grow up in the Mediterranean region.

>>13483329
He is, he understood that he lost the debate against Molyneux and that IQ is indeed determinant to pretty much every human action so he's slowly but surely coming out as redpilled, in his own arab way.

>>13483368
most argentines are honorary meds r*tard

>>13483255
>meds, a race of normalfags understanding germanics and nords, a race of autists

Right.

>>13481624
>arab
IMBECILE I BLOCK IMBECILES

>>13483434
>honorary anything
cope.

>>13483393
Was he on Molymemes YouTube?

>>13480361
twitter is a bigger cesspool than 4chan. here we do shit ironically most of the time because of anonymity, unlike twitter where even the stupid take is serious.

>>13481828
one of the best posts I've seen on here in months.

The only meds were ancient Greeks and even then they weren't a uniform country.
Roman rejected Hellenism until they give in and transform into "meds".

>>13480178
what is nassim on about, caesar pontem fecit means exactly that, fecit is the third-person singular perfect active indicative of facio

SO YOU BE SAYING
>*eats a big bowl of spaghetti with a napkin tucked in to his shirt and gold chains hanging low enough to be in his food*
I MEAN, NOW DAT I THINK A IT
>*Arrives 3 hours late to his first job and gets fired after threatening his boss and making a pass at the first female employee he sees*
UHH, WHAT I WAS SAYIN WAS
>*Currency hyper inflates*
WE BE MEDS AND SHIT?????!

>>13483255
this, nassim(an arab grifter by trade, and probably descendant of a lineage of grifters as well) cannot understand the romans, the two have many differences, the levant and italy are separated by hundreds of miles of sea, if you have ever read any texts about any Romans, especially of the Republican period, like Marius, Camillus, Sulla, Coriolanus, Publicola, Flaminius, Aemilius Paulus, Sertorius, etc. you will see why the two are different and why a levantine financier laying claim to them by notion of 'mediterraneanity' is absurd

>>13483454
im not argentine, im a spaniard and i have travelled to argentina, they are honorary stfu you don't know what ur talking about and u don't know shit about being med amerifatt scum

He should stick to finance and risk management commentary instead of embarrassing himself with this drivel

>>13483734
>leave my boyfriend alone!
cringe kys spic

>>13483032
Hey noob, google "the Franks"

>>13483213
For what reason? Don't you want to preserve genetic diversity? Or are you a globalist that wants everyone to look and act the same?

>>13480280
>med
>house
choose one, meds live out in the streets clutching their amphorae

>>13483826
homes are a Med invention

>>13483841
mud huts with silver paint is hardly an invention

>>13483849
the last people related to mud huts are Meds. mud huts are a Scandinavian thing in Europe.

>>13483368
If you cannot understand something you can only appreciate it at a superficial level.

>>13484153
Which is why Argentines aren't Meds. They just aren't. They're Argentines.

>>13482723
med-slav hybrid

>>13484157
My blood and culture are Italian, I've been in Italy, met both my parent's families there, there's really no difference between them and me.

It's pointless arguing with you though, you're a rootless and cultureless American, you will never comprehend any of this.

>>13484272
>My blood and culture are Italian, I've been in Italy, met both my parent's families there, there's really no difference between them and me

This is generally where a mutt image would be posted.

>squid ink & Moustaki
What does this mean?

>>13484272
You're not a true Med. You're as Med as Tony Soprano, which is, not at all.

>>13484821
Project harder, lardass

>>13483163
More like if there's a hack to skip to the end, they'll use it so they can stomp your ass while you "take pride in the journey :)"

>>13484851
It's not the same, your mental structure won't be med-like if your native language is English and you grew up in an anglo society, doesn't matter if you have Italian heritage and your family culture is (barely) Italian.

>>13484942
So you speak Italian, have Italian blood and you grew up in Italy? All three? Because that's what takes to be a true Med. Culture by proxy is a meme.

>>13484965
You just don't get it, bro. Goodbye.

>>13485033
I get it. You're just delusional and coping so hard as if being a Med would put you in a privileged place or something. Get real. You're Argentine. It's okay.

>>13485047
>I get it.
Nah, you will never get it. See, this guy gets it >>13483734 cause he's actually a Med, not a clueless American.

>You're Argentine.
That's right, I guess I'm gonna eat some tacos now, see ya.

>>13485108
You're still not Mediterranean, though. You're from the Americas. Your Spanish boyfriend is as delusional as you. It's ridiculous of you to assume I'm American but whatever. Deal with it, Argie.

Anyone watch the quintessential med film?

>>13485158
Forgot pic

>>13483118
lmao this

>>13485161
they look like niggers ngl is this what meds are? why the pride?

>>13480175
>I disrespect hard work but slaved away long enough to get a phd in academia

>>13480175
>remind everyone that the idea of a "white race" is a recent invention
>mutts everywhere lose their minds

Well he himself is an Arab, and not "med".
>A genetic study focused on theMaronitesof Lebanon revealed no noticeable or significant genetic differentiation between the Greek Orthodox Christians, Greek Catholic Christians, Maronites,Sunni Muslims,Shiite Muslims, andDruzeof the region.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062011

Also the French were not germanic but Celtic before colonized by the romans. This guy is the biggest pseud.

>>13481575
The English are a germanic people, retard.

>>13485679
didn't the Celts come originally from some Spanish region?

>>13485679
He's talking culturally not genetically

>>13480175
>Salve
is that Italian for 'cope'

>>13480213
Based Lindy poster

>>13480175
>a halfblood Morisco jabbers about Iberians and Italians as though he understands them better than a Gascon would
Well, that's embarrassing.

>>13483648
He's a high-tier brainlet trying to make a correct point (when it says Caesar built the bridge it doesn't mean he raised it with his own grubby hands) in the most retarded way possible (getting entangled in an objectively incorrect argument about grammar).

Basically, what I'm saying is he probably posts here and on >>>/his/.

>>13481612
This. It's rooted in self-hatred; he's trying to construct this other identity so that he can assume it, in an attempt to escape his feelings of inferiority and insufficiency. Of course, that never works, but it's frequently tried. Most teenage subcultures work the same way: losers banding together to try to convince themselves that they're better than the people who cast them out.

>>13480175

Reminder that all Empiricists are like this.

>>13481624
Because he loses in IQ department

>>13480240
Yeah, as I read Nietzche I wondered why should this be considered a revelation, a lot of it was already cultural norm where I live (med country).

>>13480230
not the brown type, sorry pedro

>>13480175
Lol at respecting success. The true Med style has ALWAYS been low/moderate income with a life that revolves doing what you want. This is why med towns have 20 beaten down small family run restaurants per alley. Because a Med will bar hop with a 10 dollar budget eating and drinking the entire night better food than any foreigner could hope for in their lifetime. Then you wake up and do your errands that earn you another shitty 50 dollars and repeat. Sunday you go to church, especially if you feel bad about screwing ugly British girls which only happened because Maria still isnt giving it up after 6 months of courting. But you know Maria will be your wife one day. The respect of success with no work is not a Med thing, it is an Arab thing.

>>13483329

>Mediterranean
>Race

the absolute state of brainlets

>>13483393

he didn't "lose" the debate, because an actual philosopher doesn't lose a debate to a salesman

>>13483028
>t.paco