/lit/ - Literature

>>13422483
Start with the Greeks

>>13422492
Which one?

>>13422878
Heraclitus

>>13422878
Plotinus

>>13422878
Luke the Evangelist

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>>13422968
Need a consensus here chaps

>>13422878
CHARTS ARE IN THE STICKY NEWFAG SPOONFEEDING RETARD ASS IDIOTDOWN SYNDROME BABY BITCH

>>13422972
START

>>13422972
Aristotle

Alone in a cottage without any bullshit. Only read books written before you where born. Write one book. Kys.

>>13422978
WITH

>>13422483
According to major philosophers, the best way to live is to be dumb.

In accordance with the Dao.

the best way to live is to not become a philosopher, not to become interested in philosophical theories at all, but rather is to just live life simply - never seeking to articulate through language what cannot be readily expressed - and in doing so, mystically tap into that which /just is/. Easiest way to pull this off is just to get busy in casual everyday life and to live like a normal fag.

>>13423331
Tao = Logos = God = Jesus

>>13422483
In celibacy and continence where the passions are ruled by reason and reason serves God.

>>13422483
The way you want to, hopefully while treating your fellow man fairly.

>>13422878
Thales

>>13422964
This guy is best AFTER authors like Plato and Aristotle because his is chronologically after them, His most notable work is The Enneads which is big but breddy gud.
Here;s my personally recommendation for getting into the greeks, and also starting literature in general;
>Mythology by Hamilton, Brief History Of Ancient Greece by Pomeroy, both optional
>The Iliad And Odyssey translated by Fagles or Lattimore
>Whatever other early greek non-philosophers you're interested in, specifically The Histories by Herodotus, Works And Days by Hesiod, Peloponnesian War by Thucydides, Aristophanes works, Anabasis by Xenophanes, Orestia by Aeschylus, Pindar, Sophocles,
>The First Philosophers And Presocratics from Oxford
>Plato and Aristotle aka the big boys
then move on to the later philosophers like Proclus and Plotinus,

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>>13423151
THE POST MODERNISTS

>>13423136
I think I might unironically do this.
If the book sucks I can't an hero though, I have to leave something decent

>>13422483
I like Aristotle's answer the best.
To live virtuously in pursuit of health, wealth, and beauty, with one's time best spent in philosophical contemplation.

>>13422483
To extrapolate further, you won't find the answer to how you should live in a book, although it is valuable to read what the greats thought. You need to clarify your values and then live in accordance with them in pursuit of the things you desire.

This might give you some ideas for your reading list:
https://www.iep.utm.edu/mean-ear/

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>>13423365
Basically these. It always boils down to a few universal points.
Don't be ruled by your emotions.

Read Leo Tolstoy's A Confession. It's about the meaning of life (talking about his depression, how he viewed his life and work and meaningless). Well, his conclusion (after much deliberation) is to live like a peasant.
>In contrast with what I had seen in our circle, where the whole of life is passed in idleness, amusement, and dissatisfaction, I saw that the whole life of these people was passed in heavy labour, and that they were content with life. In contradistinction to the way in which people of our circle oppose fate and complain of it on account of deprivations and sufferings, these people accepted illness and sorrow without any perplexity or opposition, and with a quiet and firm conviction that all is good. In contradistinction to us, who the wiser we are the less we understand the meaning of life, and see some evil irony in the fact that we suffer and die, these folk live and suffer, and they approach death and suffering with tranquility and in most cases gladly…
>In complete contrast to my ignorance, [they] knew the meaning of life and death, labored quietly, endured deprivations and sufferings, and lived and died seeing therein not vanity but good…
>I understood that if I wish to understand life and its meaning, I must not live the life of a parasite, but must live a real life, and — taking the meaning given to live by real humanity and merging myself in that life — verify it.

>>13424191
But I don't want to be a wagie.

>>13424135
>wealth
Doesn't Aristotle disparage this though? Could be wrong i haven't read him in a long time. I thought he advocated good household management but that's it.

From what I gathered, what they mostly advocate is:
>beware of material posessions
And mostly:
>reason over emotion. To control yourself.

virtue meditation and ethics in the buddhist framework

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>>13423378
After completing my Philosophy major, I've come to the conclusion that major philosophers what you to stop reading Philosophy.

>>13425275
He gives multiple reasons why some level of wealth is a good thing. The most obvious within his framework is you can't exercise the virtue of generosity if you don't have much to give. Further, he believes it is difficult to develop character when you are suffering, and that even the most virtuous of men find difficulty in being happy when they have extreme want.

>>13425275
You're correct. When he talks about different men having differing conceptions of the good life he offers money and political power as insufficient answers and argues that philosophical contemplation is superior because it is an end in itself. This doesn't mean that he doesn't regard wealth as part of the good life however, just that it's not sufficient, and I believe he says as much else where although I'm not sure where exactly.

>>13425401
Yeah, what this guy said. Which book is this in?

>>13422483
>According to major philosophers, what is the best way to live?
Collecting academic dole by writing impenetrable tryhard gibberish, apparently.

>>13425438
Early on in Nicomachian Ethics.

>>13425466
>can't comprehend contemporary philosophy
>gets mad

>>13425395
lmao, what?

>>13425486
The OP asked a question, I answered.

Do as they do, not as they say.

And "impenetrable" is an objective metric, if this shit was easy to understand it wouldn't need to be studied in college classes.

>>13425496
I think he meant want