/lit/ - Literature

>nothing but "the book I was forced to read in school was bad"
Wow, thanks twitter.

Oh no, /lit/ has a thing about repressed homosexual writers (See: Hemingway, Mishima)

>>13421324
The entirety of all of these threads just consist of women saying Lolita and DFW are bad, along with idiots going
>I'm too stupid to understand Ulysses, gravity's rainbow, etc. so people who claim to enjoy them are lying!

Hemingway is total shit though, he makes even me resent white privilege
>writing books is hard even though I have the vocabulary of a grade-schooler, I'm so famous and travel all over and drink, but I'm sad, aren't I deep?
literally the Jersey Shore of literature

m a s t e r p i e c e

>>13422368
without
question

Twitter vs Reddit. Which is worse?

>>13422409
Twitter is worse, but not by much

Pam got pleb filtered

>>13422409
Trannies vs. Faggots?

>>13422409
twitter

>>13421324
When the revolution comes, Twitter thread OP's will be first against the wall.

okay I'm done with this thread, fuck you for exposing me to this OP

>>13422446
Holy fucking shit. I'm deleting my twitter account now.

>>13421492
Good comparison

There is so much wrong with this thread. For once, everyone cries out about how no WOC and minorities get a piece of the cake but all of them only care about anglo or hispanic literature even if they want diversity. Did none of them read continental literature or was it just not noteable for them? Seems kinda ignorant.

>>13421324
why are human beings on the internet so embarrassing

>>13422446
>Science fiction is literature crossed with philosophy crossed with fun

>>13422451
I only use twitter to follow my girlfriends art accounts.

>>13422446
>Margaret Atwood
>Good Sci-Fi

>>13422440
>Margaret Sanger, Humanitarian

>>13422533
He listed her because she's a girl

>>13421492
I really liked the prose and how it lends to tone in old man and the sea. It was a nice little story. Farewell to arms was whatever but I also liked The Sun also Rises because of the main whore chick and the british guy being a cunt.

Absolutely based

>>13422711
>tfw no cute thin white aryan gf to fillet me

>>13422522
Speaking on the internet is virtually unchecked. There's really no social control making you think twice about what you say or whether you sound intelligent. Social media is billed to the masses as a place to voice your opinion, and a place where your opinion is important and matters. So people just end up saying a bunch of dumb shit and think they're genuises.

>>13422711
That's a troll account though. If you're trolling on twitter you're a huge faggot mainly because you have a twitter account.

>>13422711
Obviously a parody account

>>13422747
I don't know, because there is a large degree of social control and incentivization going on. The people in the thread in the OP are basically the stereotype of reddit gold miners. All trying, desperately, to pen some bon mot to make them seem wise and clever and interesting. People on here say stupid or terrible things all the time (myself included) but at least they aren't doing it to increase some digital social capital or to craft some online persona. Unless they are tripfags.

>>13422409
Reddit is verbose bad opinion but Twitter is concise bad opinion
You already hate Twitter while Reddit can give you the ol bait and switch.

>>13422711
only boomers think this account is funny

>>13423699
Only children speak like you do.

>be me
>get into reading
>think that everybody will be smart and helpful towards new readers
>mfw everybody is an elitist cocksucker like in the twitter thread

>>13421492
>he makes even me resent white privilege
If you believe there is such a thing, please consider offing yourself

>>13421492
pleb filtered

>>13421324
>HOLDEN COULFIELD IS ASCHOOL SHOOTER LMAO THAT BOOK SUCKED

hating catcher is the surest way to spot a pleb
>>13422409
Twitter can be fun. Reddit is mostly cancer.

based mountain goats

>>13423998
More like
>be me
>come across people who hold themselves out as litfaga
>all they like is YA

I just want a comfy book club without these cunts or wine aunts

>>13424076
organize a /lit/ meetup for your local area

>>13424086
Yeah, I'm thinking of doing something similar.

I'm in a few orgs, so I might tap a few sympathetic friends and see if theyre interested

>>13424086
He said he wanted to avoid cunts

>>13423998
It's like Dark Souls: get gud faggot

>>13422440
unironically based and redpilled

...

>>13424086
Why would you want to meet a bunch of pricks in real life?

Uh oh whxte mxn are officially cancelled

>>13421324
I love how they all argue about what the youth should read. It is the same argument since the beginning of time. They will become the same shithead teachers that force their favorite novels onto the children. Also these hot takes are all about the shit books they read because they can't go out and read something without it being acclaimed. The base level book bashing and promotion is far worse than even the typical /lit/ fag that can't go two days without talking about IJ

>>13424214
WHAT THE FUCK ?

>High schools should stop assigning classic literature and start assigning modern teenager literature. Not only will this probably encourage more casual reading, but it’ll also be easier for teens to spot complex messages because the stories are actually intended for them.

do these people exist?

>>13421324
co to za polskie gówno na imidżu

>>13422409
twitter aggressively markets itself as something profoundly important and influential so it's probably done more damage than reddit

I’ve been arguing with these retards since yesterday, idk why I even try with normies

>>13425139
Its so fucking cliche to hate on wallace because he was smart.

>>13425739
Nick *is* gay, though, right? Or at least dipping his toe in the waters of homo loving. He fucks the photographer guy in Tom's lover's party.

>>13424214
>it's so good you don't realize it's boring
woah...

>>13422368
all of Heart of Darkness takes place in a boat, but I bet the folks in that twitter thread would say Conrad is overrated

>>13425739
>can't understand new money vs old money
>assume they disliked Gatsby because he was a Quadroon

>>13426215
women are troglodytes who should be hidden away in caves

>>13426215
>tfw you want to read it because you should and it makes you cultured
How do I break out of this paradox?

>>13421324
Every single one of these people should be tied to a chair and slapped until they understand why their opinions are so worthless and retarded

>>13422409
Twitter is so far up its own ass it mistakes the light at the end of the tunnel for a brilliant "idea." Reddit is someone who likes to poop a pebble of turd into it's hand while on the toilet and examine it, flushing it away with alacrity when all is done and dusted.

>>13422409
Twitter has Japanese artists drawing lewd anime girls, so reddit.

>>13427611
What's /lit/ then?

>>13423982
go back to /pol/ grandpa

>>13427726
A monkey masturbating into it's own hand, and then eating it.

>>13426215
How is being cultured a bad thing?

>>13425763
I'd say yes for Americans just so that they'd read a fucking book, any book. Just so these kids can grow up knowing how to read and possibly write

>>13429454
Reading YA literature has a worse effect than not reading at all or being illiterate.

>>13425920
These aren't normies, Twatter is basically the new Tumblr, or an inverted version of /pol/

>>13422409
twitter

>>13429472
They are. They're just wealthy big city normies.

most woke literary hot takes are just pseudos hiding behind politics to validate their shitty taste.

>>13426236
gatsby isn't even black. it's just a dumb fan theory. the evidence people cite for this is extremely flimsy.

>>13429426
that's just an average afternoon for me

>>13424214
He's right though. Literally nothing happens in Gatsby except rich people reality TV bullshit.

>>13429433
Because white people have no culture except when we do it's always too high level for normies to get.

>>13426215
You read the classics to realize how bad modern lit is and to actually challenge your worldview.

>>13425934
People tend to hate him because he was rather wordy and self-absorbed (and talked about too much). You don't see many people hating Pascal in the US, because nobody talks about him.

>Shit-talks DFW
>Can barely form a coherent sentence

>>13426978
Lrn2 appreciation. It's what you're able to see in a book, what you derive from it, the life that flows from it towards you, that should be your focus. Appreciation starts there, in that transmission of blood. And sometimes it proceeds without any "explicit intellectualization. All criticism and analysis is mostly a mean for this end.

So ask yourself: what are the book you actually admired? The book that made you feel exhilarated just from reading them? The book that regularly made you want to stop and think for a minute or ten about what you've just read? The book that you felt almost compelled to reread as soon as you had finished them? The book that kept you awake for hours on end?
Those are the kind of books you'll be able to enjoy wholeheartedly. It's not a big deal if some parts of them are boring. It's not a problem that you want to be or seem cultured. The problem would be reading only for appearance and never enjoying any book. That would be a small but very distinct form of misery.

>>13429849
Also look for intelligence and insight wherever you can find it. Sometimes you're reading a dumb book and suddenly the author hit you with an actual good bit of observation. Reading is an opportunistic endeavour, you should really plunder books for everything they can get you.

>>13426215
This is legit why so few women are great artists. They think that reaching beyond their grasp makes them phonies

>>13422409
>>13422415
reddit has all the same "what's mediocre is great and what's great is questionable" takes. they unironically froth over capeshit. they're definitely equally horrific.

>>13425763
based young pope

>all the fags not recognizing Tatiana McGrath

>>13422415
Twitter has top-tier humor, at least.

>>13430525
Now thats a hot take

>I know zero writers whose novels are better than their short stories
Based

>>13421324
>The literary canon is inherently anti-woman and we need to pay more respect to female writers
THIS so much this