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What is the most dangerous book?

>> No.13368411

I don't think that's what the pic means...

>> No.13368426

>>13368411
he hasn't read it yet

>> No.13368429

>>13368394
unironically The Bible

>> No.13368431

>>13368394
>black person being more well read than white person
Immersion break

>> No.13368437

>>13368394
Harry Potter. It ruined a whole generation.

>> No.13368443

>>13368437
>It ruined a whole generation.
in what way?

>> No.13368447

>>13368437
Even the ones that didn't read it?

>> No.13368499

>>13368443
>>13368447
Don't try to ruin my Harry Potter hatred with your rational arguments. I know it's not the worst book out there, not as long as Eragon exists.

>> No.13368504

>>13368499
i'm not defending harry potter i just want some arguments so i can bash the books without having to read them.

>> No.13368527

>>13368429
Yeah, I suppose that one has caused the most loss of progress, the most people killed, and the most subsequent art and fan fictions of merit.

>> No.13368532

>>13368504
What makes it bash-worthy is rather its outstanding mediocrity when it comes to writing, prose and story. Harry Potter belongs to these books whose world-building serves only one purpose which is promoting and supporting the main protagonist. The world was constructed around the main protagonist and the arising shortcomings are clearly visible. This is noticably different from Tolkien for example.
Once again, some people might disagree. Harry Potter is not a bad book per se but it definitely did not deserve the fame it received.

>> No.13368544

>>13368504
Once again. I never made it beyond some dozens pages in the first book. I do not have time to read 5,000 pages of fanfiction just to render myself able to properly criticize Harry Potter but I allow myself to criticize its writing style based on what I've read so far. There are so many other books that are clearly superior in quality that one should read first.

>> No.13368588

>>13368527
Unironically the most people have been killed in the name
>>13368394
Your picture is wrong niggers cant read

>> No.13368610

>>13368544
it's not fanfiction. I meant to say fiction... Sorry for the inconvenience.

>> No.13368613

>know a black guy
>check his goodreads
>routinely rates hellenic philosophy 1 or 2 stars
>his review for catcher in the rye says he thought the book was bad because he did not identify with Holden
>his only favourite books are To Kill a Mockingbird and Green Eggs with Ham

>> No.13368616

>>13368411
Reading books makes you a passive bitch

>> No.13368649

Das Kapital

>> No.13368660

>>13368613
>Green Eggs with Ham
lol

>> No.13368667

>>13368394
The Red Book hardcover. Could easily bludgeon a man to death with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl1op2Kwj_w&t=2050s

>> No.13368671

>>13368394
The bibble

All so called holy books though

>> No.13368691

>>13368394
>>13368671
There are no dangerous books. There are only idiots abusing books and tons of other things to justify and rationalize their retarded desires.

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>>13368394
>a nigger
>reading books

>> No.13368713

>>13368691
>bullets don’t kill people. Only people kill people

>> No.13368724 [DELETED] 

>>13368713
This is a misconception. Niggers also commonly kill people.

>> No.13368726

>>13368713
I thought this was a high-IQ board

>> No.13368728

>>13368713
If anything, this comparison is an argument against gun control.

>> No.13368730

>>13368713
so let's ban guns and books because there are no people who are naturally inclined to violence?

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>>13368724
Indeed. Many humans are killed by negroes every day.

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>>13368726
>>13368728
>>13368730
The OP, people.
I see you’re all people from the One Book crowd. Shove off. Hide the threads that hurt your fee-fees

>> No.13369038

>>13368437
Never read it. Never watched any of the movies. Dodged a huge bullet given the author went kind've kookoo for coco lately.

>> No.13369174

I'm Black and I read books but it takes me longer than average. I sometimes feel like there's no point to it, since I'm not that smart, but it gives me something to do.

>> No.13369208

>>13368443
Turned them into Stephen King readers.

>> No.13369214

>>13368671
>>13368713
>i-it's the books!! They're evil!
>it CANT be the accidental confluence of myriad factors of time place and circumstance which happened to catch on in the Roman republic and echo throughout human history.
>if those books didnt exist, people wouldn't be the way they are and try to reify their actions and inclinations with an invisible ought!

God damn it you're a dumb bitch

>> No.13369221

>>13368588
>Your picture is wrong niggers cant read
This might not be true. I go to Barnes & Noble all the time and I see black people there whenever I go. They could be getting magazines, adult coloring books or real books for their adopted non-black children though I guess.

>> No.13369254

>>13368394
SIEGE which is actually a fun read.

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13369276

Probably this.

>> No.13369285

I’m decently well read and I hate black people so explain that liberals

>> No.13369289 [DELETED] 

>>13369285
based

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>>13368527

>> No.13369696

Why do racists proclaim to be Christian lmfao.

>> No.13369722

>>13368394

Is that...Mayweather?

>> No.13369740

>>13369214
Wew lad.
Dumbest Poster of the Night Award may go to you tonight. You excited?

>>13369276
>Oh so scared whitey

>> No.13369820

>>13368504
Why didn't the "wizards" just cast themselves out of the dullest franchise in the history of movie franchises? Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

a-at least the books were good though

"No!" The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

>> No.13369895

>>13368527
Stop being 14 and obtain intercourse

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As the first person to actually answer OPs question, it’s most likely The Bell Curve.

Understanding the consequences of what the data in this book shows is extraordinarily blackpilling and disheartening. The deeper you delve into understanding the consequences, the worse things get. The craziest part is this information is so taboo it can never be taught (nor should it) in any school setting. If this information was known to most, society itself would either collapse or radically change.

>> No.13370041

>>13370015
the bell curve isn't very compelling science is the problem, the book exists for racist ideologues to paint there being some sort of proof for racial inferiority but under most thorough examinations the evidence isn't compelling enough or the sources they rely on are from biased researchers. It's dangerous because it's a pseudo scientific justification for an ideology and makes people think they've seen through the lies of egalitarianism when they've just been cucked out of making their own mind up by a group of people intent on justifying a philosophical position. So I agree it's a dangerous book because it gives retards the basis to think their political beliefs have scientific legitimacy when most scientists think the work is complete dogshit

>> No.13370186

>>13370041
Not that anon but I legitimately don't care if the science in the Bell Curve is bunk or not. I have my own experiences. Why can't whites have their own country? Just their own plot of land?

>> No.13370206

>>13368394
nigga whaaaaat

>> No.13370222

>>13370186
Why base your identity on a spook like race?

>> No.13370227

>>13370222
Identity itself is a spook, so you may as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb

>> No.13370231

>>13370186
>Why can't whites have their own country?
Who started colonialism again?

>> No.13370253

>>13370231
Sure dude, I'm responsible for what people did when my parents weren't even born yet. Also, colonialism improved life expectancy, literacy rates, murder rates, and much more so much that up to this day, African countries that were colonized are better off than those that weren't.

>> No.13370254

>>13368394
The """"holy"" qu'ran

>> No.13370258

>>13368429
Seriously this

>> No.13370263

>>13370231
From turks to arabs, greeks, phoenicians, chinese, mesopotamians, indo-europeans and just homo sapiens in general, as there are dozen more peoples who practiced it, and a strong case can be made for any of them.
Just because one of the ones who did it was better at it, doesn't mean they invented it.

>> No.13370273

>>13370253

>Someone actually fell for the „colonialism made everything better!“ meme

Where the fuck do you people pick up this shit? YouTube comments and /pol/ infographics?

>> No.13370278

>>13370186
because traditionally that doesn't work because white people went and colonised everywhere and created globalised society, the idea of a "white country" which has always been ambiguous considering Eastern Europe, Ireland, southern europe etc, can just get included and excluded at will, is a concept that simply doesn't make sense.
Besides the practical limitations behind enforcing an ethnic cleansing in the USA for instance would drop california and Texas, the two biggest states in America and biggest contributors to the economy down to around 40% of its current level along with huge portions of the rest of the population, remember the majority of black americans are currently employed with one of the lowest unemployment rates for themselves so theres a huge chunk of the population now gone. "White ethnostate" is meme bullshit and there are no ethno states anymore, even china and japan have black people in them, africa has white people all over it and lots of asians, ethnostates have never exist and they never will exist

>> No.13370285

>>13370278
>ethnostates have never exist and they never will exist
Come on dude

>> No.13370287

Why do people even believe an ethnostate would solve anything?

>> No.13370291

>>13370285
name an ethnostate? a state with a singular unified culture with no segments of the population regarded as the other, because the very very few that have existed letalone at all i can't think of any except maybe ones that imploded pretty quickly and most still have foreign born populations. remember "ethnostate" doesn't mean race, it means anyone of a different ethnicity which means its foreigners of any description, there isn't a single country that was without foreigners to some degree, because as soon as its all white people those other white people become bad and aren't like us and need to be gone like the irish and the italians once were

>> No.13370292

>>13370287
Because they're Christ cucks who aren't patient enough to wait for China to figure out gene editing.

>> No.13370295

>>13370287
who cares? Why can't they try? What's the big deal? What's the controversy? It's amazing how as soon as the question "why not?" is brought up, people get into all kinds of hissy fits of minute-detail practical stuff like "b-but how will you decide who gets in??" or "h-how would it solve anything?" or "wh-why do you care so much about race?"

>> No.13370302

>>13370291
Literally almost every European country before the industrial revolution, for example.
>as soon as its all white people those other white people become bad and aren't like us
Yeah well, if you assume this, then no answer will satisfy you because you define an "ethnostate" as a paradoxical concept to begin with. Like if you ask someone to give an example of a circle of with 4 angles.

>> No.13370314

>>13370295

>p-please d-don’t ask questions about our super smart ethnostate idea

>> No.13370315

>>13370278
>continuum fallacy

>> No.13370317

Quran

>> No.13370322

>>13368394
the koran

>> No.13370333

>>13370314
>take a country that is 99% white to begin with
>or find an empty plot of land in the US or the wilderness in Sweden or whatever
>enact immigration laws that select for European ancestry (your 4 grandparents are of European descent)
oh wow look at that this system will work for 99.9% of people and we should completely disregard this idea because there will be doubts in 0.1% of the applications and look people in the 1800s weren't nice to Irish people so this won't work at all, so much problems oh no maybe there will even be a 1% black population oh god no better get rid of the whole idea then and become 56% white instead

>> No.13370344

>>13368429
>Doesn't consider the freedom from parental control from its teachings
>Doesn't consider the protestant work ethic
>Doesn't consider birth of individualism from Christian teachings
>Doesn't consider this birth of individualism led to capitalism creating millions of life changing innovations

It's really lazy to look at the middle ages and assume that it was simply papal authority that led too europes retardation without considering wider implications.

>> No.13370357

>>13370344
Actually, the monarchic/feudal system of the European Middle Ages lasted for about 1000 years give or take, which would make it the most successful form of government yet tried, if you measure success by how long it lasted. It was also relatively stable. You have to keep in mind it lasted for about a 1000 years, and of course history pays particular attention to violent periods, which skews our perception looking back.

>> No.13370365

>>13370357
Like, history will pay a disproportionate amount of attention to the 1-in-50 crazy kings, for example. While ignoring the rest.

>> No.13370375

>>13368394
In today's age, probably any book that details the sexual and societal degeneracy of Weimar Germany.

>> No.13370392

>>13370291
Most nations before the late colonization period. Having "a foreigner" in no way excludes the existence of an ethno-state, as what constitutes one wouldn't be a literally 100℅ mono-ethnic state, but one with an overwhelming majority belonging to one ethnicity.
Beyond that, what's argued when discussing a modern ethno-state isn't one with a literal single ethnicity, but one with a general makeup of similar ethnicities, as no one is arguing against samogitians and aukstaitians living in the same country.
But let's take an example from a multi-ethinic nation, like the Roman Empire, when even in late antiquity Gaul, where the area had already been the place to harsh immigration for the last centuries, there was a relatively low change to its genetic makeup, since the main groups that effectively colonized it were germanics, latins, hellenics and other celts, which are pretty similar to each other when compared to France's modern immigration sources, which result in exponentially sharper divides and shifts to its genetic pool.

>> No.13370402

>>13370375
Any recommendations?

>> No.13370559

>>13370357
Capitalism's only been around for 200 years and it's innovations have led to unthinkable levels of prosperity and economic freedom. I recognize that it's not perfect but it is undeniable that its inventions through private enterprise have done so much good for humanity

>> No.13370584

>>13370333

lel how much of you‘re internalized strawman are you projecting onto me? Is this the mental power of white nationalists?

>> No.13370599

>>13370584
list of things people haven't done in this thread:
>explained why the idea of a white ethnostate in itself is immoral
>explained why you should throw an entire project in the garbage bin simply because perfection isn't possible and there will be some practical difficulties
>do anything else other than post silly whataboutism such as "remember colonialism?"

>> No.13370623

>>13370599
Forcing people out of their nation of birth is immoral.
Go with Elon Musk to mars and build your white ethnostate there.

>> No.13370631

>>13370623
>Forcing people out of their nation of birth is immoral.
I agree. That's why we start in a nation that is 99% white anyway (and let the 1% live there if they want), or pick a piece of uninhabited land in the US, Sweden, Greenland, wherever.

>> No.13371299

>>13370186
>Why can't whites have their own country? Just their own plot of land?
Nigga its called Maine

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Valuing morality over racial survival is pretty fucking gay. Territory is inherently transgressive of "morality" and Property is ultimately theft unless no one was living there first. We should embrace this vital truth and TAKE.
>>13371299
I heard a story about refugees being settled in Maine on NPR. They did the same thing to Minnesota, which now has a large Somali (Avg. IQ: 68) population.

>> No.13371380

>>13370631
>White people build Westen Civilization
>White people invade other nations and over time allow retarded cultures to assimilate
>Retarded populations trying to oust whites
I hope I'll be around to watch a great civilization collapse under the weight of short-sighted niggardliness

>> No.13371435

>>13368394
>What is the most dangerous book?
probably those pedophille training manuals that you hear about in the news every now and again or the ISIS manuals

>> No.13371438

>>13368394
objectively speaking, either marx or the koran

>> No.13371556

Might is right.
Maybe Siege? Maybe.
People saying "Marx" are retarded as shit because that's just an ideology (((agitators))) latched on to.

>> No.13371560

>>13369208
No!

>> No.13371563

>>13371556
There's also Der Einzige und sein Eigentum.

>> No.13372079

>>13368394
My diary.

>> No.13372423

>>13370041
Absolutely false statement. You’ve clearly never read the book and the rebuttals against it. The main premise of the rebuttals is the data being false or inaccurate which is counteracted by every single major exam or IQ based activity having the same “gap”.

Act, sat, LSAT, PCST, MCAT, average income, college graduation rates, etc. all those separate events which have nothing to do with Murray end up in some form or another splitting folks racially. It’s not a coincidence Asians always end up on top, followed by whites, etc etc in every single one.

That’s just one argument against the dozen others. Go read the rebuttals against the book and you’ll see how weak their arguments are.

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>>13368394
>ywn write anything worth reading
>ywn write something that will be truly a great novel
>ywn have a successful literary career
>ywn even make enough to make ends meet by writing

>> No.13372471

>>13369174
It's not a competition, friend. Read at your leisure

>> No.13372489

>>13368394
It's the Qur'an, since Islam says it is the final religion.

>> No.13372528

>>13368411
reading books makes you grounded and gives you a sophisticated perception that won't be broken easily

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For individuals who are deficient in Spirit, and/or who are vulnerable to temptation - Illuminist, and Satanical, texts, are most corruptive, because they concretize, and glorify, inversion, and descent, of Spirit.

>> No.13372827

>>13368394
The Prince, its a political masterpiece. Reading it you can climb all the way up the ladder.

>> No.13372834

>>13368613
Post the link you faggot

>> No.13372903

>>13370559
Sure brainlet, that's why most basic infraestructures end up being managed by states. Profit centered activities dont seek to please the consumer but just produce the ilusion of enjoyment while yielding the most profit to the seller.
>prosperity and economic freedom
Not for you little brainlet but for the owners.
Now go back to /vg/ and return when you've passed high school. If you manage to.

>> No.13372908

>>13368504
Bland, poorly written, filled with plotholes and no explanation for anything happening. The only noteworthy thing is how well it praises the second amendment.
If you only care about the cultural impact then just watch the movies. They're okay for coming off of such poor source material.

>> No.13372989

>>13369174
Maybe you could pick up trash in your neighborhood.

>> No.13373469

>>13368394
Books can't be dangerous anon.

>> No.13374040

>>13370375
Is Weimar by Eric Weitz good?

>> No.13374407

m y
d i a r y
d e s u

>> No.13374409 [DELETED] 

>>13368394
Zettelstraum. I reached for my copy from the top shelf of my bookcase and it fell on my head, gave me a concussion.

>> No.13374502

>>13370041
The Bell Curve has one single chapter about race. You know how I know you haven't even read it?

>> No.13374509

>>13370222
yes, class is the real distinction between humans, not genetics or anything made up and malleable like that

>> No.13374517

>>13370291
>this strawman I made up doesn't exist so nyah
k

>> No.13374540

>>13370186
Ethnonationalism is imperative for socialism if there are differences between the races.

>> No.13374561

Mein Kampf

>> No.13374598

>>13374509
>not genetics or anything made up
Lol the left doesn’t believe in evolution anymore?

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idk probably one of those books they found with paris green covers

>> No.13374737

>>13368394
that nigger stole those books

>> No.13374742

>>13374737
Information should be free

>> No.13374771

>>13369221
Or they tear out pages from a book for rolling papers and are miles away from a gas station.

>> No.13376143

>>13368394
1.The leviathan
2.The wealth of Nations
3.The Bible

>> No.13376544

>>13371337

>> No.13376584

Sex and Character

>> No.13376589

Your Best Life Now, Joel Osteen

>> No.13376687

>>13370559
For all the people it's done good things for, it has led to the creation of as many or more impoverished and oppressed people. So you could say yeah without the Industrial Revolution and Agricultural revolution we might not have cars, airplanes, costco, cell phones, etc., which all make billions of people's lives better. But our population would never have reached a point where these technological innovations were even necessary.

>> No.13376795

>>13374561
OP said most dangerous, not greatest you fucking retard

>> No.13376989

>>13368429
This or any major religion that has gained traction with a large base of followers desu

>> No.13377000

>>13369208
>tfw my literary progression went from shit like Shel Silverstein -> Animorphs/Goosebumps-> HP -> Stephen King

books for this feel?

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>>13368394
Industrial society and its future
Twelve rules for life

>> No.13377042

>>13368394

The one I'm about to throw at your head

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>>13368613

Please let this be true

>> No.13377099

>>13377079
Sounds like a btard prank profile

>> No.13377149

>>13372827

>Reads Machiavelli's The Prince once
>Immediately knock on my neighbors door
>Tell them how much I value their time, pooh poohing their obvious rebuttals of "I've only met you once" and "get off my property"
>Soon, however, with the magic of my socio-political prowess and my fox-like tact, the neighbor now - after only two biscuits and a cup of tea - devotes his entire cause to me
>I do this with everyone in my street, many of whom work in the local council
>Finally infiltrate the workings of my local government through discreet plotting
>Fast forward a few hours and a foreign delegate arrives at the council on a typical goodwill tour, only to find my puppet surrounded by my sworn vassals and barons, some of whom have hardly had the time to relieve themselves of their gardening gloves and work overalls
>The silence is broken only by Keith, still eating a Gregg's pasty he got on the bus back from the job centre
>my puppet, 82 year old Doris from number 12, turns to her right where I am sat, austere, rubbing my hands.
>"We shall begin", she says
>In a fortnight I have created an independent principality, Doris has been replaced, and we are at war with at least two rival states.

You guys didn't warn me how dangerous this book was

>> No.13377272

>>13369285
>I’m decently well read
You're not.

>> No.13377293

>>13370253
It's not about responsibility, it's about consequences. You asked "why", anon answered.
Note that people who say they're not responsible for their father's crimes are always eager to appropriate the pride of the achievement of Western Civilisation for themselves.

>> No.13377310

Any book can be the most dangerous book in the hands of brainlets

>> No.13377319

>>13370302
>Spain
>all Eastern Europe up to Vienna
>all Southern Europe up to Maceonia
Routinely conquered and colonized by Berbers, Turks, Persians and/or Arabs

>Germanic countries
>Scandinavian countries
>the British Isle
Routinely conquered and colonised by Saxons, Latins or Celts depending on the case and era
>France
>Italy
Essentially a mash-up of all the above
>Baltic states
A mingle of Russian cuckoldry and who-knows-what native tribes

And no, Germans, Celts, Latin, Greeks and Slavs aren't the same ethnic groups, even if most of those (but not all) would be classified as white in the modern American taxonomy.

Also remember that the notion of "state" as it is conceived in "ethnostate" didn't start to emerge before the Concile of Trent, you could argue even before the 19th century.

TL;DR: Learn your European history.

>> No.13377326

The most dangerous book is obviously the heaviest

>> No.13377329

>>13377326
not true btw

>> No.13377334

>>13370315
It' not a fallacy if it actually adresses problem inherent in the concept it criticizes. The whole ida of an ethnostate is that ethnic uniformity should bring about a measure of political stability as well as social cohesion. Anon is precisely arguing that it won't, because people will keep finding way of crafting categories to lash out against one another.
>>13370302
The point is that an ethnostate is as consistent and functional as a concept as a circle with 4 angles (or barely better).
I don't exactly agree with the argument but it makes sense.

>> No.13377339

>>13377329
It is too desu, chances are that the heaviest book is some kind of scientific journal or encyclopedia.
And it's the best for bashing.

The real question is... What is the heaviest book?

>> No.13377347

>>13368764
nice argument

>> No.13377351

>>13377339
>It is too desu, chances are that the heaviest book is some kind of scientific journal or encyclopedia.
>And it's the best for bashing
Heaviest book is probably full of bullshit and too heavy to beat somebody up.

>> No.13377355

>>13370333
>oh wow look at that this system will work for 99.9%
Somehow I doubt this. All the more so than for most ethnic purist having 4 Europeans grandparents means shit. There's a reason most purity laws in history have gotten back at least two generations.
Set up your little country and see how long it takes for the "greatgrandparenters" to start crusading against the impure "second gen".

Personally I don't care,if it works good for you, I'm jut pointing out how naive the whole thing is, particularly in the 21st century.

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>>13377351
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/largest-book

>The largest book is an islamic book
Kek
And you said that it wouldn't be dangerous.
It looks like it would make for quality bashing material too, could probably destroy a car with it.

>> No.13377370

>>13370357
Late monarchic and feudal system are arguably two different things, the former feeds directly into the modern bourgeois state (see Louis XIV's reforms which in hindsight almost seems like he was trying to make the Revolution happen).
And small monarchic city-state (different from late Western absolute monarchies) have been around for arguably much longer. In some region that form of organisation spans much of Antiquity, so say about 2500-3000 years. But of course the sense of solidity dissolves when you look more closely at the history.

>> No.13377393

>>13370392
Ethnicity and genetic make up are different things. You can say Germans Latins and Hellenes are geneticaly close, mutual invasions were still perceived (rightly so) as important cultural changes.
I take issue with the terms "nation". It's a modern thing. The ancient had no nations in the sense we understand them now, they had people (and this is how they used the terms we nw translate as "nation"). And those people were rarely centered on a single, large-scale territory with little to no foreign demographic influx, which is what an ethnostate would imply.

On the other hand if you admit that a relatively limited community with varied (but relatively fixed) ethnic communities living together constitues an ethno state...then I guess the cities of Ancient Greece, among others, were each an ethnostate. But that would mean many parts of Europe and the US still vrtually function as ethnostates, in which case, why not move there ?

>> No.13377410

>>13370041
Anon, let's assume for a moment that the book is correct, only as a thought experiment.

Would you become one of the Nazis?

>> No.13377434

>>13370015
This

The book can be incorrect in however many ways, but the real danger is not the contents but the possible start of the most destructive debate in American history. Even if the racists are totally wrong, it is just impossible to expect people to be calm and objective if you open up this Pandora's box. So, it isn't much discussed.

>> No.13377488

>>13377020
I'm not american, should I finish his manifesto or is it moslty "leftism bad"?

>> No.13377497

>>13377364
>And you said that it wouldn't be dangerous.
I said its probably full of bullshit and i was proven right

>> No.13377591

>>13377488
There is a lot of "leftism bad".
But it is not all that.
You should finish it!

>> No.13377699

>>13370559
Sure thing Amazon. Yes, yes! Please ban my unions!

>> No.13377732

>>13368394
"how to build an atomic weapon" or something like that

>> No.13377743

>>13370402
"Goodbye to Berlin" by Christopher Isherwood

>> No.13377823

>>13377319
Based anon
ethnostate retards BFTO

>> No.13378225

>>13376687
Hate to defend capitalism but this post is retarded. The average person in the west lives a better life than the aristocracy of Europe 200 years ago. While globalism is about cheap labor and lax environmental laws, it has spread wealth to turd world countries.

>> No.13378465

>>13377347
>What is the most dangerous book?
>Names the book(s) that have inspired the people to do the most dangerous things/behave the most dangerous ways
>Anon pushes glasses back up nose: “Akshully, there’s no such thing as a dangerous book, only dangerous people! ! !
>enlists gun fanatics. cites IQ.
>Could you check the OP again, I urge.

Yeah, I think so.

>> No.13379592

>>13377149
based and redpilled Prince

>> No.13380086

>>13368764
>>13368713
I'm very disappointing in your non-arguments. For all of your intellectual posturing, you sure give in to shitposting easily...

>> No.13380116

gravitys rainbow

>> No.13380130

>>13368429
Actually the Quran.

However, a majority or near-majority of the muslim population are actually illiterate. Go figure.

>> No.13380136

>>13377488
>is it moslty "leftism bad"?
Is that wrong though

>> No.13380162

>>13368764
Kill yourself

>> No.13380226

>>13377149
>resume with Frederick the Great's antimachiavelli
>become a benevolent philosopher king
>eschew underhanded machinations
>now diligently looking after my dear subjects
>apologize to Doris, winning back her good faith
>My virtuous leadership inspires virtuous actions in my subjects
>operating with complete Prussian efficiency
>Doris and I invade Austria and my superior military tactics crush them
This is why you read two books at LEAST

>> No.13380693

>>13368532
>>13369820
>>13372908
lol it's a kids book. chill out.

>> No.13380719

Easy. The Quran.

>> No.13380727

>>13380162
Never. I'll out live you, I'm sure.

>> No.13380738

>>13368527
>implying it was the book's fault people are naturally greedy and murderous

>> No.13380742

>>13377149
>fortnight

>> No.13380762

>>13369174
Keep going; learning and knowledge aren't as linear as they seems

>> No.13380769

>>13370186
>I legitimately don't care if the science in the Bell Curve is bunk or not. I have my own experiences
That's called conjecture, don't get it confused with science

>> No.13380778

>>13372423
And you don't see any other variables that may confound your so-called results?

Want to know how I know you're an undergrad?

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>>13380693
Yeah, but retarded adults who have only read Harry Potter are allowed to vote.

>> No.13381624

>>13370015
>>13377434

That which can be destroyed by the truth, should be.

>> No.13381726

>>13377319
>I challenge you to name an ethnostate from European history
>remember, states didn't exist back then so it's literally impossible
>remember, I don't mean "race" I mean "ethnicity" which means I can pick whatever the fuck I want, Celts and Germanics are different because I say so and we have different names for them
>remember, there must be literally ZERO foreigners for it to count as an ethnostate
>yes all European countries were white in the fake bullshit American taxonomy but that doesn't count, so better become 56% mongrolized instead of 99% white with Celts, Latins, Germanics or whatever, it's fucking useless bro because I can nitpick the tiny details so best throw out the entire project

>>13377334
>because people will keep finding way of crafting categories to lash out against one another.
Completely unsubstantiated. Yes, to a degree conflict is inevitable. I'm not a utopist who thinks the ethnostate will bring back the Garden of Eden. Why can't we choose to live only with fellow whites without throwing away the entire project because the line between white and non-white is blurry, therefore better allow in scores of Africans?

>>13377355
Again, the tiny details don't matter. Make it go back 3 generations if you like. I picked the grandparents because that's the most easy to prove.

>>13380769
I never made a scientific claim. I'm asking why whites aren't allowed to make their own little state and do as they please. Let in who they like, keep out who they like.

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>>13370041

>the bell curve isn't very compelling science is the problem

(you)

>> No.13381749

Is there anything worse than faggots who harp on about "the American taxonomy is bullshit", Europeans used to make distinctions between Irish and English etc.? Yes they did but there has ALWAYS been the concept of "the European", especially since contact with Africa and the New World was firmly established.

>> No.13381755

>dude some white nationalists think even Greeks aren't white, therefore the entire is bullshit, therefore just let in Africans

>> No.13381770

>>13368437
You are a sycophant. I think it introduced reading to children who may not have read books in their lives.

Also the values it teaches are solid such as friendship, sacrifice of oneself for the good, etc

Harry Potter didn't lead to a whole generation being ruined.

If you want to know some factors which furthered mankind's delinquency then you'd be better off placing the blame: social media, the pressure placed on youth to pursue individualism which makes them susceptible to the prying hands of mass movements, cultish ideologies and beliefs.
Also the new generation's sexual culture (which i believe will be the greatest factor to play in the fall of the west). Kid's are under collosal pressure from educational systems, peers and society to be as sexual active as possible. This will lead (and is already doing so) the destruction of the family nucleus, only increasing the number of children born in torn apart families, riddled with insecurity and anxiety, only more susceptible to cultish ideologies to clothe their naked souls with to form a sense of identity.

>> No.13381790

>>13381770
>the destruction of the family nucleus
This one's on feminism and feminism alone.

>> No.13382057

>>13381594
That's not a problem with Harry Potter it's a fundamental flaw of democracy

>> No.13382069

>>13380130
Maybe if the area hadn’t been torn apart by wars of Israel for 70 years

>> No.13382172

>>13381727
Come one, y'all know that the bell curve is garbage.
If you don't, I have to say that every person who acts like he had understood all the realms and refinements of the social order, referring to books such as the bell curve, just could be assimilated to primary school children who believe they understand everything about literature because he had read the full harry potter collection. The number of "educated" people who are completely illiterate towards social sciences is distressing.

>> No.13382215

>>13381770
>You are a sycophant. I think it introduced reading to children who may not have read books in their lives.
>
>Also the values it teaches are solid such as friendship, sacrifice of oneself for the good, etc
I don't even know where to begin to explain how wrong and stupid you are. What's happening is part of a phenomenon I wrote about a couple of years ago when I was asked to comment on Rowling. I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing.
But when I wrote that in a newspaper, I was denounced. I was told that children would now read only J.K. Rowling, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than reading nothing at all? If Rowling was what it took to make them pick up a book, wasn't that a good thing?
It is not. "Harry Potter" will not lead our children on to Kipling's "Just So Stories" or his "Jungle Book." It will not lead them to Thurber's "Thirteen Clocks" or Kenneth Grahame's "Wind in the Willows" or Lewis Carroll's "Alice."
Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

>> No.13382333

>>13382172
The IQ gap is real. This is an undisputed fact. The cause for the gap is either environmental, or genetic (or some combination thereof -- but even admitting this is admitting the genetic component which is admitting race realism). All environmental fixes have been tried: IQ tests in South Africa, IQ controlled for net worth, IQ controlled for crime; the gap remains. The only completely environmental factor left is the nebulous ghost of "white privilige" or Eurocentrism or neocolonialism or inherited trauma, unfalsifiable claims with no conditions for "victory" except total equity in IQ test scores, which, the genetics-camp believes, will never happen.

>> No.13383829

Industrial society and it's future

>> No.13383841

>>13368443
Harry Potter has a lot of connections with those in the LGBT+ community.

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>>13370344
>individualism
God exists. And He cannot be in us until we become interested in Him, in Him exclusively.
Do you understand what I am saying? Ex-clu-sive-ly! Twenty-four hours a day. Your hearts and minds filled only with God. There's no room for anything else. No room for free will, no room for liberty, no room for emancipation. "Free yourself from God", I've heard people say. "Liberate yourself from God." But the pain of liberation is unbearable, sharp enough to kill. Without God... you are as good as dead. Dead, abandoned stray wandering the streets. .

>> No.13383903

>>13370291

In 1993, 98.2% percent of Icelands population was ethnic Icelandic people with no foreign background. This was probably the highest rate of foreigners since the settlement of the island in 860.

>> No.13383910

>>13383903
>inb4 double percent

>> No.13383951

>>13372528
Until you reach the point where you realize holding one view or the other doesn't matter, and rather, you learn to hold a view as sincerely as you give it up.

>> No.13384014

>>13370365
any king who inherited a stable kingdom and succeeded in keeping it stable until death/abdication is essentially forgotten to history except for his name being in lists

people also enjoyed more freedom under the monarchy, worked less, and felt like they belonged to the community they lived in

>> No.13384038

>>13368532
It also revolves around the worst meme of fantasy: "old magic" and artifacts. No living wizard in the entire world for the entire series is capable of any particularly rare or unique magic. They're all basically trained to do the same thing.

Everything interesting with the magic is some ancient spell or artifact made by someone better than everyone in the entire world.

Compare that to interesting magic mechanics like Celtica, where the wizards had magic inscribed into their bones at the creation of the world and they age as they use it. The few remaining wizards are tens of thousands of years old and have forgotten dozens of lifetimes of memories, unintentionally repeating love and blunders for thousands of years. HP magic is just totally stale writing in comparison.

>> No.13384042

>>13368713
why aren't the jannies banning this trip, anyways? it's clearly not being used as allowed

>> No.13384049

>>13368527
>the most subsequent art and fan fictions of merit.
Implying european art wouldn't have been made if it weren't for a jew on a stick

>> No.13384055

>>13370344
>muh middle ages
The Hebrews with their Canaanite genocide/colonization and the Muslims with their wars. The Bible was the root of that.

>> No.13384057

>>13369740
stop posting attention whore

>> No.13384070

>>13370015
>nor should it
>the truth should be hidden

begone, Satan

>> No.13384075

>>13370273
>infrastructure, science, and medicine is worse than pre-agrarian pseudoculture

oh shit nigger

>> No.13384080

>>13369221
>They could be getting magazines, adult coloring books or real books for their adopted non-black children though I guess.
Blacks don't adopt non-black children

>> No.13384082

>>13380778
>what is the Minnesota twin adoption study

lad, I...

>> No.13384101

>>13382172
>social """" sciences""""

The entirety of social sciences, barring things that actually successfully model behavior and/or society mathematically to some extent ( e.g. dual inheritance theory), is entirely bunk. It's not even hypotheses. People make stipulations and other people decide whether or not they like them. If enough people like them, they call it a theory and require you to memorize some stages of development or crises or other such memes in order to get a degree.

Science that does not test quantifiable measures is not science.

>> No.13384115

>>13370278
>california and Texas, the two biggest states in America and biggest contributors to the economy down to around 40% of its current level along with huge portions of the rest of the population, remember the majority of black americans are currently employed with one of the lowest unemployment rates for themselves so theres a huge chunk of the population now gone

Blacks and Hispanics consume more taxes than they contribute. Also, the reason we don't have fair wages is because the general labor supply is almost double the general labor demand, i.e. there are too many uneducated people for the jobs we have.