/lit/ - Literature

>>13361660
Cortazar it's the best south american writter in my personal opinion, he is famous for hopscotch and his short stories, but i like a lot of thee poems he writed, specially if you know spanish the disc "cortazar reads cortazar" its spectacular for his french-argentine accent.

>>13361740
those recordings are the most kino thing in the world

>>13361660
honestly it's fucking great. for me it captures a certain melancholy and listlessness that i haven't really come across that often, if at all.

>>13361740
Cortazar is only liked by art hoes.

>>13362473
Borges and Bolaño seem like art hoes to you?

>>13362485
Yes

>>13362485
They seem like god tier writers to me.

sobrevalorado

I enjoyed it, especially towards the end in the mental hospital. Not particularly memorable though (perhaps because of its structure), need to reread and go about it in chronological order

>>13361660
This book has everything I wish I could do in a novel. It’s also very sensual at parts, does that get lost in the translation? I’d assume some of it does. Also this book introduced me to Musil and TMWQ is the best book I’ve ever read so there’s that too.

>>13362922
If they are art hoes then I don't know that the fuck you faggots in this site are.

>>13363200
wannabe art hoes but too ugly and stupid to be one

>>13361660
how do you even translate the giglico shit?

>>13363186
Yes. In Spanish it's way more sensual.

>>13361660
How does this book compare to Bolanos 'The savage detectives'? I'm currently trying to read that but it's so boring and pretentious. I have a copy of Hopscotch that I might give a shot instead.

>>13363773
probably stay away from that if you think TSD is pretentious

>>13363781
Got it, thanks.

>>13363773
Not even close. Bolaño is on a different league.

>>13363870
In a worse league? I enjoyed some of Cortazars short stories in 'All fires the fire' and 'Blow-up and other stories', so I'm still a bit interested in reading Hopscotch.

But holy shit if it's anything like the first part in TSD (Mexicans lost in Mexico, or something like that) then I won't even bother. It was just a bunch of young adults smoking weed, having homosex and talking like pretentious art hoes over poetry and shit. Shame since so many others seem to like it.

>>13363870
As a novelist, yes. Cortázar is miles ahead as a short story writer, and is also a better poet than Bolaño. Bolaño writes poems about taking a shit alongside his son.

As a novelist, yes. But Cortázar is miles ahead as a short story writer, and is also a better poet than Bolaño, though. Bolaño writes poems about taking a shit alongside his son, for fuck's sake.

>>13363906
True, Cortazar is a better short story writer but not a novelist. Bolaño was a poet from the streets, taking a shit with his son like you said or taking with a drunk fisherman about some hooker he fucked are the things he found interesting.

>>13363870
As a novelist, yes. But Cortázar is miles ahead as a short story writer, and is also a better poet than Bolaño, though. Bolaño writes poems about taking a shit alongside his son, for fuck's sake.

>>13361660
The best Cortázar is actually just a bad Borges.

t. Argie.

>>13363918
Bolaño has some good poems here and there but the guy was anything but a poet. His essays are even better than his poems. And yea, his themes were kind of vulgar but it's the technique that's dull. Literally all his poems are free verse.

>>13363932
They had different styles, themes, preoccupations, and ideas. Normie critics like to spew this nonsense only because both wrote fantasy short stories. No one would say, for instance, "the best Lovecraft is just a bad Poe". An absolute platitude.

>>13363949
Well, if i really had to be fair, i would say Cortázar shines best in his short stories.
Hopscotch, on the other hand, it's a really original idea, but it's an absolute waste of time. The only people i knew that readed this crap and ejoyed it, were pretentious faggots in college, and boomers that non ironically believed they were going to do a socialist revolution in Argentina.

This is, to me, the problem with a big part of Cortázar's work: people pretends to enjoy it because it enables them to pat themselves in the back and brag about reading his crap. Not only is boring, but if you read it in spanish you will notice how bland the prose actually is. Don't waste your time on this faggot.

>>13363896
Grow up and learn how to read other's lives and their experiences (whether fiction or not) without dropping them because you don't relate.

That being said Cortazar is amazing, and probably beyond your reading level.

>>13364076
t. pretentious weed-smoking socialist homo
No thanks, I'd rather read good literature.

really great but the hopscotch gimmick is pointless and gay

>>13361660
long-winded

>>13361740
Have you ever read borges?

>>13364083
This in most cases, pretentious marxist bullshit is worshiped like the paradigm of excellence in this board a lot, fuck that shit man.
I guess we wont get again at dostoievsky tier.

>>13364683
Second'd.