/lit/ - Literature

Nah, this general should be closed.

>>13346515
>(embed) (Cross-thread)
At least delete that shit before you make a new thread, retard.

Still my favourite series of all time

sanderfag a hack

>>13346660
i-i-i'm sorry anon-kun T^T

Are there any sci fi or fantasy books that revolve around the protagonist’s love for a beautiful boy’s feet?

>>13346748
feet are smelly and sweaty, you should be ashamed of yourself

>>13346748
Songmaster by Orson Scot Card. It's about a beautiful boy and the Emperor who falls in love with him. Card describes his feet a few times.

Just finished pic related. It was a fascinating book which I think I'll need to reread at some point in the future. The writing gave the impression that there was always something more going on that what I was able to figure out, though I feel I understood the majority of it since I read it carefully. But for anyone who has read it, what is your opinion about why the first few pages had been cut out of Marsch's notebook? I read a theory online but I found it unsatisfying, and my own thoughts are not settled. I think it may correlate with the use of fanciful names in the notebook such as Hagsmith, as perhaps V.R.T. modified the notebook in certain ways to prevent anyone from tracking Marsch's past movements (I also speculate this is the reason he killed the cat, since it was the only other being that knew Marsch died and not V.R.T.), though that raises the issue of how he could have done it convincingly with his poor handwriting.

First for birdboi haters are jewish homo niggers.
We will allways serve our feathered Emperor

>>13346748

>>13346781
Have you forgotten gaskun so soon? Sic transit gloria mundi.

>>13346811
>this is what niggers and npcs actually believe

How do you guys deal with having so many books you want to read but only limited time.

>>13346858
Suicide.

"What makes this even worse is the last time I saw Rothfuss speak a fangirl got up and gushed about how much she loved the scene and asked what 1000-hands was in real life and during the answer Pat unironically said "I'm really good at sex." I lost a lot of respect for him that day."

lol

>>13346778
unless I'm mistaken, the poor handwriting stuff comes after the aborigine has replaced marsch, so that's just him rationalizing his kind's inability to use tools effectively. I think that's part of the point to "A Story." The ending where one of the brothers dies but it is uknown which one since they both think they are Sandwalker. The cat was supposed to be an aborigine, or possibly a shadow child. I think the name being John Marsch is supposed to be a hint that it was the marshman Eastwind who survived. As for the missing pages, it's said they were cut out with an edge finer than the officer's dagger. Possibly the cat tore them out before taking Marsch's place for some reason. The VRT initials on the cover are also bad, so the entire thing could have been written by the abbo.
Don't take what I have to say too seriously though. I just wrote most of it off the top of my head. I feel like I need to give the whole book another read.

>>13346924
Where'd you read that? I want the full source for chuckles.

>>13346954
>unless I'm mistaken, the poor handwriting stuff comes after the aborigine has replaced marsch, so that's just him rationalizing his kind's inability to use tools effectively.
Right, I understand that. I was just saying that, in respect to my theory about V.R.T. modifying the original notebook, V.R.T. had bad handwriting so he wouldn't have been able to replicate Marsch's, which is why I'm not so sure about my theory about the notebook.
>The cat was supposed to be an aborigine, or possibly a shadow child.
Right. It's clearly a sentient creature, presumably the "woman" that Marsch thought V.R.T. was having sex with. That's why I think V.R.T. killed it, since it knew who he really was.
>I think the name being John Marsch is supposed to be a hint that it was the marshman Eastwind who survived.
I don't know. I think there's a very subtle clue about it being Eastwind, though. Right after Eastwind is bitten by the shadow child, the text says that Sandwalker rubbed his arm because it was tired from flogging Lastvoice. That seems odd since Sandwalker is in excellent physical shape, unlike Eastwind. So that was probably actually Eastwind who was speaking there, and thus killed the original Sandwalker.
>As for the missing pages, it's said they were cut out with an edge finer than the officer's dagger.
Perhaps Marsch's razor from his shaving kit.
>Possibly the cat tore them out before taking Marsch's place for some reason.
V.R.T. took Marsch's place, not the cat. V.R.T. killed the cat.
>The VRT initials on the cover are also bad, so the entire thing could have been written by the abbo.
You're confusing notebooks, which may be my fault for being unclear. There was V.R.T.'s school notebook, which is what had his name on the cover, and then there was Marsch's scientific notebook which recorded his expedition. V.R.T. eventually took over writing in the scientific notebook, but with bad handwriting, and even has to justify it in the notebook since his handwriting is unlike Marsch's, by saying that Marsch was bitten by the cat.

>>13346972
Unfortunately that's all the info there is, no information on what event it was at. A pity, if it was on video it'd be eternally memeworthy.

>>13347100
Checked. Also that means there's a chance it's made up which is a damn shame if it is. I'll just choose to believe it's true because that's funnier.

>>13346748
Feetfags are the worst, and needs to be purged.

>>13346781
Enjoy your ban. Hiro doesn't want anyone messing up his adsense with pol.

>>13346858
I don't read any of them

>>13346858
Quit ur job

Going by Bast's reaction after Kvothe tells the story of him and Felurian there's a good chance he is their offspring, right?

>>13347605
>tfw lived in a spare room with zero distractions and no internet connection for a few months
>tfw blazed through my backlog for two weeks
>tfw burned out and couldn't be interested in anything for the rest of the time
>tfw no face

Just finished Solaris, by Stanislaw Lem. What did you think of it?

>>13347623

I do this for two months every year. Cozy.

>>13346980
I don't think VRT took Marsch's place. The entire population of Ste. Anne was replaced by abbos who think they are humans. They arrest Marsch because he is clearly different from them. Trenchard and his son are natives to Ste. Anne so Victor wouldn't stand out.

Since I will be absent during the turn of the month we will collect nominations and vote on the July book now. Voting will begin in approximately 48 hours or if a new thread is created before then.

Reply to this post with nominations.

>>13347629
Kino

>>13347822
And to clarify, discussion will, as usually, take place around the turn of the month (probably a day early) so there is still time to start Lord of Light, I found it quite read worthy.

>>13347822
Sign of the Labrys

>>13346778
Are any of Ursula Le Guin's books good? I tried reading Earthsea but didn't like it. Or is she just the Neil Gaiman of her generation? Having quotes on so many great books but never actually writing anything great themselves.

>>13347822
shogun by james clavell. its a great book and isnt discussed nearly as often as id like.

>>13347814
I think you're very wrong. It's quite clear in the text, if you're reading it closely, that Marsch died on the expedition and that Victor took his place. Victor was arrested because the police thought he killed Number Five's "father" at the end of the first story.

>>13348238
Heh, never thought about that

>>13346687
What are some fantasy books about women with big asses and thick thighs?

Just read Asimov's Robot series. What books can I read about the near-ish future where an apocalypse does *not* occur? Maybe even somewhat optimistic about the future?
Asimov wrote about interesting technologies/topics but his predictions are very wrong 70 years out. Any suggestions? Thanks

>sex scenes

>>13348572
>no sex scenes

>>13348467
Definitely not the one you were asking, seeing as she is twig, hungry skeleton tier.

>>13348238
Earthsea actually was good, maybe you'd like her science fiction better though, don't read Left Hand it's trash but Dispossessed and Lathe of Heaven were great.

>>13348491
Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom

>>13348632
that is what generated the need to ask

Todays the day bois. I can feel it.
Self publish chart incoming in a few hours.

>>13348651
I read one a few months ago, but can't recall. You might have to read sadpanda to get your fix, fellow thicc enthusiast

August 1, 2019 - Cradle 7, Uncrowned
WHO IS HYPED?

>>13348806
I'll never by hyped for fake chinkshit.

>>13348806
I'm going to wait until he publishes the one after uncrowned and then just do a full re read.

>>13348806
i hope hes making them longer.
they are so dreadfully short. its like they're teasing you to start reading the next one but the next one isn't out.
its true suffering.

>>13348815
>the circle is now complete
>chinks made fake shit of popular things
>now people are making fake things of popular chink stuff
What a time to be alive.

>>13348832
>I'm going to wait until he publishes the one after uncrowned
>March 1, 2020 - Cradle 8, Bloodfallen
Okay.

>>13348882
Yea but I just did a full reread a few months ago and it's at that point where some of story is fuzzy but not enough to read it all again. I really like the series so reading it all isn't a chore but it feels pointless doing it again after only a few months. Plus I'll have 2 new books when 8 comes out

>>13347822
Shades of Grey - Jasper Fforde

>>13348806
I'm slogging through the fourth book. Does it get better? The first three were fun.

>>13348899
I am not talking about the reread. i am talking about it being next year march. You might not be alive then.

>>13346515
I’m on crown of swords now. I’m going to fucking finish wheel of time if it’s the last thing I do.

>>13348407
I'm reading a parallel between when Eastwind gets bitten by the shadow child and when Marsch gets bitten by the cat. I think the cat absorbed parts of victor's personality and imparted them on Marsch when he got bitten in the same way. I did mess up the arrest part though. They just think he's a foreign spy.

>>13348974

>>13348974
>been hurt so long that you willingly go looking for someone to hurt you

>>13348974
>reading WoT after book 6
W e w

Anyone read Ship of Magic? Should I bother with the other works of Hobb, or is the Farseer trilogy the only one thats worth it

>>13347822
Heroes Die

>>13349297
Liveship Traders is actually better than Farseer imo, but that's an unusual opinion I believe.

>>13349297
I bloody loved everything set in that universe, I devoured all of the 16 main books.
I'm just a sucker for epic sagas.

anyone know if scalzi is planning on writing more old man's war books?

>>13348663
I did it, but don't know how I feel about it.

>>13348974
>t. Robert Jordan

>>13349512
>no TKAG

>>13349512
>no wandering inn
c'mon

>>13349527
>TKAG
???

>>13349531
>>no wandering inn
Wandering Inn is Malazan huge, and it isn't even finished. The thing I like about amazon is that the stories are usually short, and self contained. A book which each Volume is that of 1000+pages long, and no end in sight, as the author is still writing?

>>13348838
At least he stays on a consistent release schedule

>>13349564
>>13349527
The Kingkiller A comprehensive Guide.

>>13349512
Honestly anyone who recs Arand/Darren loses all credibility with me. I got memed into taking a look and his plotting, characterization, prose, and smut are all worse than I've seen in a lot of fanfic, let alone professional fiction.

>>13349842
Which book did you read?
His earlier stuff was passable, but since people found out (and he later revealed himself) that he (Arand) was Darren, his works have plummeted.
All his characters read similarly now, there is sex in EVERY book, there is a Harem in every book, the Darren characters are contaminating the Arand Characters.

You just read him as fun, and nothing serious.

>>13348806
pretty cool I wonder who will win the tournament I hope it isn't Lindon but I know he'll be stronk as fuck
>>13348838
If they were longer they wouldn't release as often
>>13348924
Skycrown? It's dull coming right after Blackflame but it's shorter and then you get Ghostwater afterward which is a fun adventure.
>>13349527
>>13349531
That is anon's personal donut steel list. He only adds books he's read and personally likes, instead of a community effort.

>>13350008
>instead of a community effort.
I used to. But the general is not community oriented much these past years.
We could have taken people at their word before that x, would happen in book. But people started to troll with books. Remember when they were saying that Book of the New Sun had things it did not? And they were putting their own shit books in the charts?

>>13350119
Add books we recommend or don't call it a sffg rec guide. Even if you didn't like them.

why can't the universe allow for authors who aren't conceited self-satisfied assholes? its fucking unfair that you need to he confident to write. cunt, i need to have written to be confident! the only people who can write are people who were born with the gift to be satisfied with themselves that they never suffered to earn

fuck that. authors should be shot on sight

>>13350463
pretty based d e s u

I downloaded the 7th edition of warhammer 40k rulebook and read through the lore parts so I think I have a decent understanding of the background. Should I start with the horus heresy trilogy for my first real books in the universe?

what the fuck happened to undernet #bookz?

>>13350580
Don’t read Horus heresy stuff or any of the big series
They suck

>>13350580
Depends on what you like.

If you like broad epic stuff from when Emperor was still alive and don't mind the focus being 99.9% Space Marines, go ahead and start w/ Horus Heresy. If you just like Spehss Marines in general maybe read Helsreach.

If you like military sci-fi try Gaunt's Ghosts. If you want that but more comedic try Ciaphas Cain. If you want that but more grim try Dead Men Walking.

If you like Inquisitors and small bands of coolguys chasing heretics and solving mysteries far from the front lines (sometimes a nice window into the normal civilian worlds of 40k) try Eisenhorn.

If you like the space navy try Relentless or Execution Hour, though honestly it's been so long I can't remember if they're fun or shit.

If you like non-Imperium factions I haven't read much of that. Spurrier's Lord of the Night was about a traitor (but not very Chaosy) Marine tearing through the underhive looking for an artifact while a qt inquisitorial interrogator waifu investigates his grisly crimes while working under an Inquisitor who seems a bit off. I remember it being fun.

The intro reads that ease ppl into the universe best are probably the Eisenhorn books. Also obviously don't expect most 40k books—even the better ones—to measure up to usual /lit/ standards.

>>13350716
I'm on it right now and it seems to be working fine. Piracy is bad tho pls only pirate dead authors and shit authors.

>>13350751
oh phew, i thought it was down

piracy is great, it lets me try out any book i want at any time

>>13350751
t. An author

>>13350823
Yeah all PIRACY BAD jokes aside I actually do pirate first then buy if I enjoyed the book enough to want to finish it. Don't see anything wrong w doing things that way bc it's saved me a lot of money on books I got memed into buying, enough that buying the stuff I've liked at full price doesn't make a dent in the savings. I'd rather give one good author a bunch of money than a dozen authors ranging from good to dogshit $1.99 each on sale.

Video games I just pirate though and never buy even when they're good.

>>13350458
>do what we want or else
have sex

>>13350840
>or else
Obviously I can't compel you, but don't expect the chart to be taken seriously if it will only contain a couple of books you like. Also, every time you post it I and other anons will disavow it. That's all we can do really. Enjoy your chart.

>>13350823
My Kindle has saved me metric boatloads worth of money from buying books, as well as storage. I've used one for a good 7 years or so now and I love it. I feel bad for it lately because I am filling it with litRPG and xianxia shit. I've discovered shitloads of great authors though and have recommended them to friends, have two people who come to me exclusively for book recs now.

What did you fags think of One Piece this week?

>>13347822
>https://www.amazon.com/Other-Worlds-RADIX-Tetrad-Novel-ebook/dp/B001HZYE8Q
>211pg
or
>https://www.amazon.com/Baynes-Climb-Sword-Ursian-Chronicles-ebook/dp/B0049H94XE
>162pg
I know it sounds pulpy but I loved the tweeeest at the end

Posters on /a/ are calling science fiction a subgenre of fantasy. Is this true, /lit/?

>>13348974
You're going into the biggest slog of the series, the pinnacle of "nothing happens" is book 8 though.

How was your weekend /sffg/?

I wasted mine feeling horrible about myself

>>13351118
Haven't gotten any reading done because I'm hooked a neat horror podcast my gf got me to listen to

>>13350963
"No!"

>>13351213
Yes

>>13350863
>>13350840 Isn't me.
I'm >>13350119
But disavow as much as you like. You guys do it for every thing else anyways.

>>13350869
I haven't read one poop in at least a year.

>>13351257
Will do.

>>13351118
i ate too much mdma at my friends housewarming party saturday night. the roll was great but i woke up feeling like dogshit
also something very important to me was stolen, not by my friends though, i left it behind at the community pool and when i came back for it at 2am it was gone. i assume the group of niggers that was there at the same time as us and made the spot too hot by smoking weed stole it after we all left.
im all strung out
and i have job interview in 9 hours

>>13349297
Yes it's good,but don't read The Fitz and the Fool trilogy it's crap

Anyone with kindle unlimited want to read my shitty scifi smut?

I need feedback pls ;-;

>>13351206
>my gf
Nice waking delusion you have there.

>>13351266
Enjoy failing your piss test.

>>13347629
It's based but I can understand why people wouldn't like it.

>>13351277
already done a bit of research on this
seems that mdma will show up in a piss test for 4 days at most
every job ive ever had they dont piss test you at your first interview
its after that one when you come in and sign all the paperwork

ever had a job little buddy?

>>13351118
Same,also i wasted the last few weeks reading capeshit and playing vydia i just started reading books again yesterday.

>>13351273
Does it involve alien fucking?

>>13351301
Butch female captain fucking an android with removable parts

I was thinking of doing another one where the captain explores different planets and fucks different aliens.

Captain Andrews: Pre-Programmed Pleasure

Fucking kill me.

>>13350963
Why do they say isekai instead of Portal Fantasy or Planetary Romance like a normal person?

>>13351322
For smut, I only read male human on various aliens. Describe the robotfucking for me, though. I'm curious.

>>13351333
She meets up with the same robot she fucked years before. The captain imitates that scene from aeon flux where the dude gets the girl off by fucking with her spinal cord. She then forces the robot to attach a giant robo dick and fuck her brains out. Then she peaces out back to her ship.

>>13351342
>aeon flux
Damn, I haven't thought about that movie in like 15 years.

>>13350963
Genres are a spook. Trying to define them is hopeless. Expecting people to agree on definitions is retarded.
I don't see how it would be helpful to consider sci-fi a subgenre of fantasy just because it contains fantastical elements.
>>13351324
>why does the weeb board use weeb terms for weeb media
Are you retarded?
Also who the fuck uses "planetary romance"? Besides which, it seems to be nothing like isekai at all.

/sffg/, how did you guys get to the point where you stopped judging yourselves, and turned your insecurity into arrogance?

>>13351520
I think the scene I’m referencing was in the animated show, not the movie. I remember a lady being trapped in what was basically a hole in the Berlin Wall and a scientist messed around with her cybernetic enhancements of her spine causing her to orgasm uncontrollably.

>>13351266
Lol nice one dickhead

>>13351532
I haven't. I was going to download Heartgem Homestead through IRC until I saw it's listed with [Sexcraft Chronicles] as the entry.

>>13351544
Its smut, but it’s smut with a story!
>not reading it just for the scene where the MCs brother fucks his dead gf’s mom

>>13351342
I'll read it (and maybe share it with some degenerates I know) if you can give it to me in a format that doesn't rely on me having a Kindle Unlimited membership.

give me something to read that's not dinosaur fiction

>>13351603
Cradle
Prince of Nothing
Never Die
King of Ashes

>>13351603
John Carter

>>13351639
I think he meant stuff that's GOOD.

>>13347245

Ah, a jewish homo tranny comes forth.
The jannies (may they be fucked) hold no power here. This is pol territory bucko.
Now tell us of the latest book you read (you didnt read anything for weeks, perhaps even months! Probably wasnt sffg was it now? You just like to lurk. Lurk like the vile impotent creature that you are and finally, when seeing something you find unacceptable, O God that is when you strike. You and your kiln are like Warwick: destined to be caught and locked up, seeing your daughter (not that you would be able to reproduce, even that vile little goblin Warwick is superior to you) raped and impregnanted, before you were tied to elephants and ripped apart. This would be your end, and it would be mercy.

>>13351674
Curse of Chalion
The Macht by Paul Kearney
i don't read too much modern fantasy

>>13348572

Yes very cringe.

>>13347620
Bast is much, much older than Kvothe.

>>13348594
Based.
>>13348572
>>13351797
Cucked.

>>13349297
To add my sentiment.

I havent't read Ship of Magic, but did try to read the first Farseer book. Nothing wrong with it, but quite tame and uninspired. Also I read that Hobb is bad at resolution, usually the climax happens offscreen in her books, at least supposedly, which killed my interest.

Try em out, but be prepared for them just being OK.

>>13351784
>Curse of Chalion
Confirming, I finished this book a few days ago for the second time and I just got done with Paladin of Souls. Really good books, though Bujold seems to be a huge fan of the word "concatenation," and I'm pretty sure she's got a thing for fat guys.

>>13351784
>i don't read too much modern fantasy
This.

>>13350742
Cool thanks. Probably start with heresy still. The inquisitor mystery solving sounds pretty good

>>13351286
Not that guy, but I've had a job and I've never been piss tested, I don;t even know anyone that has been piss tested for a job.

I can't imagine they needing to do such kinds of test outside of some military positions, at least over here.

What kind of jobs are you applying for.

>>13349130
Marsch being bitten by the cat was made up by Victor to explain why the handwriting in the scientific journal had changed; Marsch was dead and now Victor had replaced him, but Victor's handwriting was bad and he made up a reason for why it was now different. The last entry in the notebook that was written by Marsch was the one about climbing in the tree to try and kill the ghoul bear and tire-tiger. It then switches back to the prison notes, then a note about how they were confiscated, then the scientific journal picks back up with V.R.T. writing it, making shit up for several pages and later admitting that he lied about the dates and it was all written a month later. If you look at the narration in that part, right after he mentions that his hand is bad, the officer reading the notebook stops and looks at V.R.T.'s old school notebook. The point is the officer is comparing the handwriting, and can tell that it's V.R.T.'s handwriting now. Also from the prison journals it should be obvious that the person writing them is V.R.T. after a certain point; there are many times he references his parents, etc. and those are all references to V.R.T.'s past, not Marsch's or anyone else's. The details are fairly specific if you're paying attention. Also, here's something from an interview with Gene Wolfe a few years before he died:
>Q: In The Fifth Head of Cerberus, does John Marsch understand that he’s really V.R.T., a “shadow child,” one of the aboriginal inhabitants of the colony planet, who is aping a man?
>A: Yes, he does. He knows he’s not a real Earthman, but he’s trying to talk himself into believing that he is. That’s what he wants to be.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/529431/a-qa-with-gene-wolfe/

>>13351912
ive been spit tested for a job before
i am applying for a cashier job at a grocery store

>>13349512
Still too much smut, yick. You should make a separate degenerate chart for smut and along with a normal chart. People are not going to take it seriously when over 50% of the books on a chhart are badly written wish fulfilment for horny teenagers.

I also don't know why you keep including Murderbot, it's not self published, Tor owns it.

Remember you shitting on Another Stupid Spell when I rec'd it a few months ago and now you include it in your chart....hmmm

Good taste including Starship Mage and Threadbare though, 10/10. I only finished the former yesterday and it was based af.

I might try Spellmonger, looks decent but I've heard mixed things about it though.

>>13351927
Are you seriously telling me you will be piss tested for a cashier position?

Goddamn lmao.

>>13352046
Yeah dude we live in hell

>>13352063
Where the fuck is that?

Anyway, no need to sweat it too much, its a fucking cashier position.

For non-anglos: Do you read translations in your native language, or do you read international versions in english?

Which setting has the best magic system:
>The Inheritance Cycle
>The Powder Mage
>The Wheel of Time
>Mistborn
>Fullmetal Alchemist

>>13352441
DID SOMEBODY SAY MAGIC SYSTEM?!?!

>>13352459
Basedposters are the biggest basedfags, and should die in onions.

>>13352468
>Basedposters are the biggest basedfags, and should die in onions.
kek kek kek

>>13350963
Absolutely. "Fantasy" means "made-up things that didn't happen," and unless you're writing The Right Stuff fanfic your science fiction is just as out there as wizards and knights.

>>13352433
Usually read the original version but mostly i read the English version.

>>13352459
Based and wonderpilled

>>13352596
>Absolutely. "Fantasy" means "made-up things that didn't happen,"
By that standard all fiction is fantasy. It is clearly not a useful definition of the genre.

>>13352623
How about "couldn't happen?"

>>13352630
Then alternative history isn't fantasy anymore.

>>13352640
South winning civil war is more fantasy than John Dee summoning real demons lmao rt

2/3 of posts in this thread are abhorrent garbage.

>>13352645
>please ignore the fact the South was actually winning the war when it first began

>>13351118
Spent all day both days reading and shitposting outside in my hammock w a beer on the table beside me. Comfy af with the shade from trees and light breeze to keep bugs away. Probably should've gone to the gym but whatever.

>>13352652
Including your post.

>>13352652
>1/3 is not
That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to us.

New best litrpg. 30-year-old NEET gets implanted with a brain interface from the future that gamifies real life. After his wife leaves him, he decides to use it to get his act together, leveling up in a range of self improvement skills. Yes, he is riding a dinosaur by the third book but overall the wish-fulfillment is more good natured than is the norm for the genre. I legitimately enjoyed it and did not have to grade on my litrpg curve.

>>13352433
I usually read it in English and if I enjoy the book, I reread a good translation. Thought if the translation is not good, I don't bother with it.

>>13352441
Mistborn
You can say whatever the fuck you want about Sanderson, but the original Mistborn trilogy was fucking amazing.

>>13352850
generally russian litrpgs are different than those made in the us. russians really dont give a fuck about most societal conventions or niceties. also they dont go overboard with the stats for the most part which is really the best thing those gopniks do when writing those novels.

>>13352723
>bro just attack a country with more land to give, more population to fight, more factories to arm up, more money to buy what they need, more trade options and more ports

Worked great for Germany against the USSR.

>>13353107
>lol who the fuck is Vietnam?

>>13353107
I really believe this was Germanys greatest mistake.
They could have easily fought of the the Allies and then focused on the ussr afterwards.
No idea why hitler wanted to fight on both fronts at the same time. Realistically speaking the Axis could have won against either if they didnt took on more than they could chew.

>>13353130
The USSR was selling food and fuel to Germany. This was because the USSR produced more than it needed when the deal was signed.
The deal was expiring, and the USSR was already demanding much more fuel and food itself. Germany also couldn't offer the big lump sum and big loan that made the deal in the first place, nor did the USSR need it that desperately anymore. The deal wouldn't be renewed.

If Germany had not invaded USSR, they would starve their civilians, and rot their army. In fact Hitler attacked at one of the latest possible viable moments. A few months later would've been even worse, and only downhill from there.

>>13353129
Lee decided consciously not to turn the South into Vietnam

>>13353129
Is Vietnam a country with more land to give, more population to fight, more factories to arm up, more money to buy what they need, more trade options and more ports compared to the USA?
Because if not, your post is garbage.

>>13351266
>something very important to me was stolen, not by my friends though
I like how pol likes to place the white race as infallible, that they do no wrong, and are virtuous. When it was most likely his "friends" who stole it.

>>13349512
>we are legion
AHAHAHAHAHA
Sorry, it's not the book - didn't read it - it's the title.

>>13351286
>ever had a job little buddy?
I don't live in Big Brother Klapistan. I never had to take a piss test at my job, nor do they spring surprise piss tests on me.

The only people who have to do that are ones that work with food. Piss test, stool test, etc. So you don't pass shit on in the food that you make.

>>13346515
Give me a female alien name
GO

>>13353207
Blue Skinned Alien Woman

>>13353207
Gorgla

>>13351544
Many older women get their caves de-cobwebbed.
I hard to read it in private because I couldn't hide my erection.

Nominating A Brother's Price for the /ss/ list

>>13353207
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

>>13351674
>>13351603

>>13352723
>please ignore the fact the South was actually winning the war when it first began

At no point in the war South had made any actual gains or imposed an attrition rate comparable to the difference in population. When you're constantly losing territory - starting from the first year of the war - and get exhausted more than your opponent you're not winning. The bestest hope the South had was simple survival - scoring enough defensive victories and making the war protracted and costly enough, for a new government in Washington be elected on a platform of comromise settlement.

>>13353207
Seems unlikely aliens would have genders. Its not that great of a system.
They would probably have names though. That seems like a good system. Though I can imagine a society without names as well, if everyone is just "comrade" or some shit, with no personal responsibility and big group think.

But if there were aliens, and they had females, and they had names, I think a popular name would be Boris. She'd have big tits too, good ol'e Boris.

>>13353263
>genders aren't a good system
>communism is

>>13353207
Givdik Tittkow

>>13353254
I disagree. The only way the South wins (or at least doesn't lose (or at least doesn't completely and absolutely lose) ) is if they convince the British Empire to help them out.
They were after all a big trading partner of Britain, and without the northern state would be dependent on Britain in many ways. They could arrange for some protectorate thing, or a "enemy of my enemy" thing.

However that might bring Russia or France into the war, on the side of the North, so its risky.

>>13351974
>I also don't know why you keep including Murderbot, it's not self published, Tor owns it.
Didn't it self publish, then was bought by the publishing house? Like the Riyria books series?

>>13353270
How are genders a good system? For fucks sake, because of the gender system, the X chromosome has no backup, and men are hilariously prone to gene damage. Gender is literally a genetic illness.
And where did I mention communism at all? I didn't talk economics, or property, or anything like that. I'm not a communist and I don't suggest it to aliens I like.
/sffg/ really is the most uncultured thread on this board. Weird that there can be people who read more than the average man, yet are simpler and more basic than the average man.

>>13353292
t./lgbt/

>>13353299
I'm a straight man, I just actually read books other than sword&sorcery. Consider drowning.

>>13353130
>They could have easily fought of the the Allies

US + England would have crushed Germany inexorably. Germany + occupied Europe lacked in resources necessary for a protracted war, except coal, and, after 1940, iron, and the cessation of sea trade meant that industries of the conquered and vassal states, particularly France, operated at a small percent of their normal capacity, or had to be cannibalised to keep German industry going. Resources to feed the population and expand production to the level anywhere remotely near USA capabilities could have been found only in USSR. USSR seemed an easy target that could be easily destroyed. Doing so would have provided Germany with means for economic buildup against the expected clash with USA.

>>13353316
oh /pol/, Germany would have conquered the world and genocided all non-blondes if anything less than the rest of the world had united against them, everybody knows this

>>13353292
Evolution through gene combinatorics.

>>13353326
You don't need gender for that. Chromosomes are epigenetic, they are above DNA in the system.

>>13351974
>Remember you shitting on Another Stupid Spell when I rec'd it a few months ago and now you include it in your chart....hmmm
It turned shitty. With the author finding ways for him to get stupid again to cause drama. That's why I have quality will vary. I could have included some more shitty books that I didn't like one bit, but others might. Like that Stranger of the Tempest, Magic 2.0, and System Apocalypse.

>Good taste including Starship Mage and Threadbare though, 10/10. I only finished the former yesterday and it was based af.
I didn't even know that starship mage was that enjoyable. I always dismissed it.
I thought threadbare would have been concluded when they defeated the succubus, but it seems she spilled the beans and they (bear and friends) are going to get attacked next book. That's where I dropped it. As threadbare got more intelligent, the series became less enjoyable. It ended up like reading a litrpg with the protagonist using a teddybear as his main character. If you get what I'm saying, he became too whoman.

>I might try Spellmonger, looks decent but I've heard mixed things about it though.
I dismissed it for years because the blurb and the cover was off putting. But I read it and it wasn't too bad. Better than some of the books I read.

>>13353333
"Not necessary" does not imply "not useful".

>>13352433
English, unless the author wrote it in my native language.

>>13353375
Considering the opportunity cost (you can't exchange DNA with half of your species, plus introducing more things to go wrong genetically) it doesn't provide enough. Its bad, mate. Just because we ended up stuck with it doesn't mean its good. That stupid nerve going from your shoulder to under your heart to behind your lungs and then back up to your neck isn't good either, even though it stayed throughout evolution and us standing up and we still carry and suffer from it.

>>13353186
Read it. It's kino scifi. Wish more people wrote stuff like that.

>>13353207
Go to Will Wight's blog. He has a nice little piece about how to go about naming your characters.
https://www.willwight.com/a-blog-of-dubious-intent

>>13348806
Where does he post release dates?

>>13353228
>what are we going to do on the bed oneechan?
>pomf =3

>>13353438
See >>13353431
He did it as a April's fool prank, but it was serious, for the most part.

>>13347822
I could have done the nominations and the poll at the end of the month anon if you couldn't be around, oh well.

I nominate Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins. Haven't read it myself but it's been rec'd a lot and has been on my tbr list for ages now, might as well get it out of the way.

PS- Change your file name back to monthly reading, I can't find your posts using ctrl-f with the new name.

How much money do you think these self-published authors end up making from their book sales?

>>13353522
Hundreds upon hundreds of dollars.

>>13353522
It obviously varies wildly, some don't even make back what they spend on cover design and editing. Others like the Ryria author get 7 figure offers for audio book rights.

How successful does one need to be as author to make about $2,000 monthly?

>>13353522
The Wandering Inn author's patreon is at 8000 dollars per month. That's not even counting the book sales on amazon.
Then again she churns out 1 hour chapters every 3 days and it's a serial.

>>13353536
Covers are very expensive aren't they.

>>13353556
Make about $2,000 in sales every month.

>>13353561
I kind of want to bash together a GAN for it but I wouldn't know where to start.

>>13353569

>>13353558
>she
It's a guy, he very carefully nurtures the image that he's female without ever explicitly saying so in order to rake in the money.

Source: Know a guy who knows a guy who knows him.

>>13353522
>>13353536
Some self-published writers I follow on Twitter start a kickstarter for their books to pay for all the shit involved in making the books. So at the very least they're definitely making SOME money from book sales, but for these guys it's all about the joy of writing what they want and not trying to make as much money as possible.

>>13353595
>he very carefully nurtures the image that he's female without ever explicitly saying so in order to rake in the money.
I hope this is true and he comes out of the gender closet one day to prove just how easy it is to be a woman when it comes to shit like that.

>>13353600
My primary goal is to write but my secondary goal is to never have to work a real job again.

>>13348343
>shogun by james clavell
>1200 pages long
Yeah, sorry but no way mate.

>>13353498
>I could have done...
I don't want you fully morphing into me :^)

>Mount Char recommendations
I'm quite sure that was just a someone spamming but the book seem good enough so why not.

>file name
I had to phone post for once, we should be back to normalish now.

>>13353612
>1200 pages long
thats like an afternoon of moderately fast reading

>>13353621
>speedreading scum

/sffg/, is it a good idea to find some external cause to blame when my writing turns out bad so I don't damage my fragile confidence?

>>13353107
>>13353130
>>13353136

USSR would have completely collapsed if the Kriegsmarine could uphold the Northern Arctic naval blockade, but sadly the Brits won and the allies were able to supply the Soviets with the bare necessities to survive the Blitzkrieg

The Germans also made the mistake not to utilize tens of millions of Russian POW's and having them fight for a nationalist Russia, increasing internal instability and decreasing morale in the soviet controlled region.

>>13353207

Ingrid "Trophycock" Titcow

>>13353263
>>13353292

Male, female gender duality is at the basis of this universe bucko.

>>13353642
Best way to get confident is git gud

>>13353642
If you're a woman you could always blame The Patriarchy. And if you're black you can just blame white people.

>>13353642
Accept that you're not a one-in-a-million prodigy that can write something decent the first time, and will actually have to work in it like any other skill.

>>13353633
Just read the first chapter and table of content anon

>>13353651
Wow, if only Hitler had your as his general.

>>13353651
>USSR would have completely collapsed if the Kriegsmarine could uphold the Northern Arctic naval blockade
The USSR literally borders the USA, you mong. Germany couldn't build enough wooden boats, let alone subs, to patrol all of the USSR's eastern coastline, which is all potentially supplied by the USA.

>>13353207
Seninha

>>13353651
>Male, female gender duality is at the basis of this universe bucko.
Best be joking, Kermit.

>>13353595

>>13353816
>t. spiritlet

damn I picked a retarded time to come back to this thread

Any books about a utopia that DOESN'T turn out to be a dystopia in disguise? Something that doesn't scream "technology is bad for social interaction and any overly advanced civilization will ruin itself by improving technology to the point where their social lives are soulless, while a cavemen society is living a happy life with smiles on their faces".

It's so easy to explore a world where everything is fucked up, but I what about inverse?

And/Or: The book where the main plot IS the actual turning point of "utopia -> dystopia". Usually this moment (or period of time) is brushed away in a flashback of a wise old man that the main character meets, who explains how "it used to be better".

YA is fine if it's at least remotely good, but I'd prefer something that doesn't revolve around whiny bisexual teenager girls drooling over liberal abs while saving the world from an evil white man.

>>13353263
>Seems unlikely aliens would have genders. Its not that great of a system.

Don't let the SJW “authors” hear you. I won't survive a young adult trilogy where a whamen discovers an alien species where it's all nice and sweet just because there's no gender.

>>13353940
Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom
John C. Wright's Golden Age trilogy

>>13353666
What if I'm a white patriarch?

>>13353940
Elantris

>>13353940
That sounds like a recipe for a book without an sort of story. Also I'm sure it would be even more preachy than the dystonian ones, because instead of "Exaggerated portrayal of social problems caused by X" it would be "All our problems would be solved if we just Y."

>>13354035
pretend you are jewish and blame the US

>>13353263
>Seems unlikely aliens would have genders.

Compared to the overwhelming improbability of aliens' existence, doubly so in the same time and space frame as humanity, there are no "likelies". Meeting green space babes and catgirls on the quest for human dick is not meaningfully more implausible than meeting indescribable sapient fungi or whatever.

>Its not that great of a system.

Offer an alternative that may as much as slow down genetic degeneration in species that cannot discard 999 offspring out of 1000 every generation.

>>13353666
And if you're a white guy you can blame both of those groups

>>13353263
Why? Why two gender reproduction less likely than whatever the fuck other reproduction system would arise for sapient aliens?

Why did Snow Crash end so poorly? It felt like Stephenson gave up in the last 50 pages

>>13354248
>>13354299
Why would a system where half the people have eggs, the other half have seed, be the preferred one? Much more sensible for both to have both. You have sex with literally anyone (instead of only half the people being available), and you both leave pregnant (producing two distinct combinations of your genetic material, so the odds it inherits a bad combination is reduced).

Anyways, as I am going full lightning speed retard, I also think that weapons/violence will be unlikely in an alien civilization we meet. We are stuck with it for historical reasons, and I don't suggest that I should put my gun first, I know game theory, but it doesn't seem like that would be the common case. Its pretty arbitrary to assume aliens would also end up in the mexican standoff we have when it comes to war. They'll probably be harmless, even if much more advanced than us, and, honestly, potential prey.

>>13354299
Aliens wouldn't have two genders because aliens would be much more intelligent and progressive than us and thus have a spectrum of alien genders and lots of alien pronouns, so your average alien would introduce himself as, say, Blorgghx, gendermragghd, pronouns xymrl, xorldlg, xymmpr.

At least it is appropriate to discuss gender in a fiction thread.

>>13354350
eyyyyyyy

>>13354342
>implying the average alien won't introduce itself as "navigation unit RT0934"

>>13354332
Oh yeah, because prey and predator are human concepts.

>>13354366
Is your dog a hunter? Is your cow prey?
In civilization, these don't exist. We only keep them around in stories, and they are fading.
Imagine a species that has spend a thousand years or more under information technology civilization. Maybe they legitimately don't get the predator-prey interaction.
You are making the fallacy of thinking all notions will always be exactly as they are during your limited lifetime.

>>13354381
>Imagine a species that has spend a thousand years or more under information technology civilization.
They'd probably be even more violent than us.

>>13354360
It would only do that if it's gender identity was navigation unit.

>>13354392
Why? You continue to project your small self into the big picture. There's no reason to make such claims. Even in our modest few thousand years of written history, we've only been getting less violent.

>>13354406
>we've only been getting less violent.
Because of laws
Now off to >>>/x/greys and >>>/his/philosophy

>>13354332
>aliens will never have to compete for resources

>>13347822
I nominate Dhalgren, the Finnegan's Wake of SFF

Is this good or shit?

>>13354543
unbelievably shit

>>13354560
oh...ok

>>13354543
Note how it says shortlisted, not won. Not that those awards mean anything either.

Who is best girl for Kvothe and why is it Vashet? I feel like he has the most natural chemistry with her compared to the rest.

>>13354505
They would divide them equally, space commies!

>>13354630
>Unironically fanboying Kingcuck Chronicle
yikes

>>13354630
I remember nothing about that series aside from all the cuck shit and wanting to fuck the loanshark girl

>>13354630
Best girl is the only one he deserves, his right hand.

So I'm a bit over halfway through The Way of Kings. Do Jasnah and Shallan ever fuck?

God I hope so, it would give me something to look forward to in Shallan's chapters instead of them just being filler in between Dalinar and Kaladin's chapters.

>>13353940
The World Jones Made by Philip K Dick the story it's about how Jones creates a rebellion of bored sex-starved housewives and retarded drug addicted woke people to destroy the Utopia.
The main character is a happily married police officer who tries to maintain his normal way of life after his wife joins the rebellion.

>>13354035
You wouldn't be the first transoppressed author.

>>13353940
These are actually fairly common
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Utopian_novels
and they're always didactic

>>13354727
>fucking
>in my books

>>13354727
lol, no. You do know Sanderson is the author right?

If you've read past Bridgeburners, drop it, it's all downhill from there. WoK is the best book in the series by far and it's an average book at best. Shallan get way worse as the series progresses.

>>13354406
>Even in our modest few thousand years of written history, we've only been getting less violent.
go suck pinker's dick more, we've been learning to hone and direct our violence in an era of plentiful cheap energy

What are some fantasy books with apocalyptic settings? kinda like Stormbringer by More Cock when the world is ruled by chaos forces

>>13354824
Brandon Sanderson cannot physically create the f-word.

>>13354829
Mistborn

>>13354824
>"NO SWEARING AND NO SEX ON MY JRPG NOVEL,KIDDO"

Any good books about assassins? A cult/Guild aspect would be nice too.
And I mean assassins who assassinate people because they're paid to. Not assassins who only kill evil government officials and the author's childhood bullies.

How do you settle on an idea? I have so many and all of them are shit.

>>13354997
A couple Discworld books have assassins' guild focus, Pyramids and Hogfather spring to mind.

>>13354997
There's Assassin's Apprentice, but that's only tangentially about assassination. There's The Way of Shadows, but reading that book is like having low-grit sandpaper gently but constantly rubbed across your love for the written word. Honestly the best fantasy book about assassins that I've read is the first fifty pages of Pyramids.

>>13346515
>>What's your favorite sappy, tear-jerking, emotionally manipulative and/or sweet SFF story?
Literally the only books that ever made me cry were Deadhouse Gates and Memories of Ice.

>>What have you been reading?
Done with deadhouse gates for the third time.
Now reading night of knives.

>>13353130
>No idea why hitler wanted to fight on both fronts at the same time
He believed the USSR was planning to attack him. Given that assumption he acted entirely rational, he gambled on his Blitzkrieg succeeding, as he did before, and it very narrowly didn't work.
If had held the mainland for 3+ years and Stalin, supported by the US and Britain, had attacked him he would have been in a pretty bad situation.
Given that, his decision seems entirely rational, and the margin by which he lost being so low, seems to vindicate him even further.

>>13355004
You vacillate between them all for years, never satisfied and never making progress on anything. Help.

>>13353719

Got close, is all im saying. Luckily they escaped to inner Antartica.

>>13353776

J>ust casually send supplies from fucking alaska into siberia, through an active warzone (Japanese Manchuria).

Im getting a feeling your military sci fi is shit.

>>13355358
I've been building mine up for years, letting my ideas be sorted into my dozens of outline files, and a larger file for ideas that don't fit. It's a pleasant pastime and will provide a rich layer of fertilizer for the time I can actually write them.

>the day of the battle dawned pink as the fresh-bitten thigh of a maiden
What did Roger Zelazny mean by this?

>>13355368
I've got a massive document of ideas, and I get really into one of them for a few weeks, then another, and then another... I've had this document since 2013, I haven't finished a damn thing.

>>13355368

>not having all your ideas stirring together in the brainsoup for ages

How are you expecting a thick yummy broth if you work so sterile. You need to throw the ingredients together, and have them innoculate each other with their flavors. Do you even cook write?

>>13354997
Vlad Taltos
Erevis Cale
Thieves World
And maybe Legend of Nightfall and the Nightrunner Series

>>13355390
>tfw some of your ideas from years ago are actually prettyy good
It's like a dialogue between different stages of my life. If all else fails at least my descendants will have access to my notes, they'll be a neat thing for them to pore through.

>>13355364
Just casually score a complete blockade against the largest country on the planet with the longest coast line. Great insights, her general.

>>13355358
I have about 3 documents of ideas, and a dedicated document for the actual story details because the story is rather complex and the characters are fairly intricately interwoven. God I love those words. Porn for me.
Anyway aside from that I have the actual chapter document, and a clone document that I edit on and make all sorts of changes and leave notes there to stew.
To be honest I don't have that many ideas. I mean ideas are cheap, everyone has ideas, it's all about execution.
That being said, I've always had a good idea of where and how the story should develop, and though I've sidestepped quite a bit from what i initially started with, at the end of the day the core is still there.

>>13355364
The Japanese had a non aggression pact with the soviets. Soviet-flagged ships sailed easily and frequently back and forth between the US and Russia's far east, transporting all sorts of aid.

>>13355358
jesus christ i know this one. I spent the first two or three months of 2019 switching back and forth between the wandering chef story and the rat king story, and when I started getting stressed I came up with two more stories. I know there was a third too but I can't remember what it was (it might have been one of three variants I had for the rat king story at the time)

at least now Ive settled, even if Im not writing, but I know that if I finish it im going to have about 9 different stories to choose from

What's with Gene Wolfe and Giants?

>>13355504
he was a big guy

>>13355379
That on the day of the battle the dawn was a similar colour to the recently bitten thighs of a virgin woman.

>>13355504
I'd ask what's with other authors and no giants? They're powerful symbols in fairy tales, but vampires and dragons and some Haitian folk magic curse get more attention than them.

>>13355504
they're not giants. a little known fact is that Wolfe didn't invent pringles to be food. he wanted to construct a to construct a tower to contain his skate park, but because of his size the tower he made was mistaken for a can of crisps and humans started eating his half pipes. it happened so many times that he decided to reach out to his cousins, Snap Crackle and Pop to see if they could use their connections in the food industry to help him set up a potato chip company

>>13355504
Macrophilia

>entire first Chronicles of Amber series
>300,000 words
>just the first book of ASOIAF
>295,000 words
Why was Zelazny such a wordlet? Did he just have a small vocabulary?

I got to Lamia's story after the very pleasant and intriguing story of the jew's baby.
All was fine and dandy, crime, an AI..... and suddenly MOTHERFUCKING KEATS
someone needs to shoot me straight in the head, I swear I'll never be able to finish this God damn book.

>>13355603
Word count has no correlation to quality.

>its an American author writes globalist propaganda episode

>>13355603
Short and Sweet

The anon who recommended The Barrow, thank you man

>>13355603
>Did he just have a small vocabulary?
Considering 1/5 of GRRMs words are either whore or cock I would not say that vocabulary matter much when it comes to book length.

>>13355504
Patrician fetish desu

>it's an American author writes episode

>>13355004
Maybe start with coming up with a good idea?

>>13354727
>lesbian sex in a christian book
I don't think so

>>13355757
Finally we have come to the root of the issue.

>>13355770
It have honestly been a problem since they started writing at all. And it's not unique to sff

>>13355757
>writes
It blog posts count, I guess.

>>13355603
It's called "having a good editor"

NEW THREAD
>>13355879
>>13355879
>>13355879

>>13355721
>"American"