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>mfw i realize that Adorno was actually a conservative
So why does the right hate him and the left love him?

>> No.13296719

That man hated fun. Very based.

>> No.13296727
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>>13296714
Most right-wingers are dumb.

t. right-winger

>> No.13296733

>humor is oppressive
can someone explain this to me?

>> No.13296739

He argued against current capitalist culture and so the right groups him with progressive capitalist culture because they think that was the alternative he wanted

>> No.13296746

I dislike him because he was a jew
>simple as

>> No.13296753

>>13296714
because you're wrong, really.
he held some positions that could be considered outdated from today's point of view but calling him a conservative is more than a stretch. it's not without reason modern day liberals and leftists of all flavors consider him to be one of their main influences.

>> No.13296761

>>13296746
Ethnicity is a spook

>> No.13296796

>>13296761
Everything is a spook. Literally all concepts. But they can be useful.

>> No.13296810

>>13296796
>But they can be useful
Not by in-grouping and judging people by where some of their ancestors were from though.

>> No.13296817

>>13296810
wrong

>> No.13296822

>>13296810
Why would you fear lions but not jews? Are you a speciest but not ethnicitysist? Sounds very arbitrary

>> No.13296858

>>13296810
Utterly wrong. Anything that gets me a bit of information more cheaply is useful.

>> No.13296871

>>13296858
>>13296817
>>13296822
Race is a social construct that doesn't determine personality or for the most part IQ. In-grouping millions of people together just adds misconceptions and misinformation about what you are talking about.

>> No.13296886

>>13296871
Bell Curve

>> No.13296895

>>13296714
Botho Strauss loved him. So do I.
t. conservative

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>>13296871
Woah there, how did we go from ethnicity to race to IQ? You okay there kiddo?

>> No.13296905

>>13296886
Look up genetics on wikipedia

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>>13296871
>Race is a social construct that doesn't determine personality or for the most part IQ
Race determines height, skin color, eye color, facial structure, bone structure and many other phenotypes. I'm not saying based on this you can say IQ is also determined but I would say the burden of proof is on the one negating this claim as it seems hihgly improbable that the body organ that takes up 25% of the energy intake is not affected by genetic difference

>> No.13296930

Reminder that Adorno respected Spengler and recognized the right makes better critiques of contemporary society than liberals
>>13296714
The left needs more based folks like Adorno nowadays. Closest person I can think of is Zizek and he's not even close to Ardorno

>> No.13296941

>>13296871
>t. bait or retard

>> No.13296958

>>13296753
>implying conservative equals outdated
It's more that his inescapable pessimism will naturally lead to conservative conclusions

>> No.13296965

>>13296930
Both the left and right are in dire straits these days, at least intellectually.

>> No.13297067

>>13296965
if you take into account that the left succesfully managed to merge into one single ideology with liberalism, i'd say they're doing better than ever.

>> No.13297086

>>13296733
Him being of G*rman and J*wish descent is a lethal combination

>> No.13297094

>>13296810
But Jews do that and to their advantage anon

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>>13296727

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I take it you have not read The Authoritarian Personality.

Read Paul Gottfried, After Liberalism. Adorno was a subversive who abandoned leftism to work for American Jewish Committee writing papers on why traditional gender roles are fascist.

>> No.13297262

>>13296871
If culture is what mainly determines that then prove culture isnt a social construct.

>> No.13297665

>>13296905
Different races have different genetics. The proportional differences are marginal but certainly manifest between races.

>> No.13297756

ITT: retards apply the right/left dichotomy to philosophers who didn't believe in it in the first place.

Adorno was the first one to realize, explain, popularize (in the philosophical world) and draw conclusions from the fact that capitalism erodes culture and markets it back to us in the form of commodities (the culture industry) as well as turn culture into more "degenerate" forms (i e jazz music being a degenerated version of classical brass bands)

Adorno was anti-capitalist, and was there for not conservative, liberal, or fascist. He was a Marxist, a fact the "right" often ignores so they can claim philosophers such as Adorno, Debord, etc as their own

>> No.13297782

>>13296796
Just wrong. One of the necessary features of a spook is that it can turn a person to put constraint on themselves. If you're in a prison, then that's not a spook.
Moreover, many things can be a spook, but that's not a subject independent predicate. Liking a rock band will generally not be a spook.

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>>13297183
LMAO, Curtis is thinking along the same lines as me. Basic income = citizens are shareholders essentially. One step closer to corporate government. The leftism does a backflip and turns into rightism. I just hope the normies don't catch on.

>> No.13297908

>>13297183
Why doesn't he just meet Curtis in person? Better yet, why doesn't Curtis just start writing again? I can almost feel his lurking presence when I read certain blog posts on certain websites.

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you didn't realise shit if you think Adorno is a conservative...because he disliked capitalism? and consumer society? and was an avowed marxist?

>> No.13297987

>>13297756
>Adorno was anti-capitalist, and was there for not conservative, liberal, or fascist. He was a Marxist, a fact the "right" often ignores so they can claim philosophers such as Adorno, Debord, etc as their own

so

>> No.13299518

>>13297796
Closer to serfdom rather than shareholder, pleb.

>> No.13299536

>>13296761
Clearly doesn't matter when it comes to nepotism and power. Or scapegoating heightened to mass murder. MUH spoogs is tantamount to blocking your ears and grovelling. Also that's not what spooks are.

>> No.13299692

>>13297796
Citizen's dividend > basic income.

Voters get compensated according to the performance of the government elected. Tax surpluses would mean more direct redistribution. Profit shares for the last cycle paid at the polling stations at the beginning of the next cycle.