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Imaging believing, even in the 1800s, that people will voluntarily act against morality and society at large for the sake of their own hedonistic ego, when the social hierarchy has built ego as an extension onto itself.

This is what continentalism does to you

>> No.13229168

>Imagine, being an intellectual in the middle of the Industrial Age and not getting a job in a mill just like the rest of us! Ha! He sure missed out.
>Don’t see anyone with the name Stirner anymore do we?

>> No.13229183

Let’s ignore the incel who replied.

>> No.13229192

Not sure what's more embarrassing, the OP or butterfly's reply

>> No.13229254

https://youtu.be/uF6PmTO6FV4?t=71

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>>13229141
>hedonistic ego

>> No.13230901

>>13230770
nah i think egoism is by definition hedonistic, isn't it?

>> No.13231079

>>13230901
Get the fuck outta this thread if you haven't actually read Stirner.

>> No.13231080

>>13230901
Not necessarily. Sensual gratification is not as important to an egoist as fulfilling a sense of self, which can be achieved via methods that don't involve the body or bodily pleasure at all

>> No.13231108

>>13231080
Right, which is completely compatible with hedonism. See Epicurus' and Mill's arguments fir the "higher pleasures".

>> No.13231112

>>13231108
*for

>> No.13231125

>>13231108
Disgusting, really.

>> No.13231195

>>13231108
that egoism and hedonism are 'compatible' does not mean that egoism is "by definition" hedonistic. Stop moving the goalposts from your original claim

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>>13230901
Pleasure seekers are by stirner words "self-sacrificing" and its very obvious how they sacrifice other things for this one cause not necessarily making them Egoistic because they care for a cause that they sacrifice others for and this cause doesn't really help the self it actually if anything it blinds you and tunnel visions you, the unique, read Heraclitus and Platos Dialogues to see what I mean. Also Stirner pretty much agrees that an individual should practice or live by all means of self-control and mindlessly seeking pleasure is not by any definition self-control.

Check out "The Hierarchy" chapter in The Unique and its Property(the Landstreicher translation) for more

>> No.13231419

>>13229168
>DONT SEE ANYONE WITH THE NAME KANT ANYMORE DO WE?
>DONT SEE ANYONE WITH THE NAME MARX ANYMORE DO WE?
>DONT SEE ANYONE WITH THE NAME NIETZSCHE ANYMORE DO WE?
>DONT SEE ANYONE WITH THE NAME JUNG ANYMORE DO WE?

>> No.13231739

>>13231419
through their works i mean ? these names are ass blasted everywhere

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Okay fuck it I'm going to read Stirner, which translation should I read?

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I have my introduction to ethics exam in less than two months and I do not want to read someone like Stirner before I have puked all the kntians, utilitarianists and hedeonists on a piece of paper for an A+ but this wait is absolitely killing me!