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so... stoicism?

>>13219322
Do a Vipassana retreat

>>13219322
This may sound insulting, apologies, but it sounds like you want Buddhism light. Read some shit by Alan Watts and see if its the level you want or if it comes off as surface level. Most Western interest in Buddhism is usually addressed that way.

>>13219322
you sound like a collosal faggot, buddhism is a religion and dumb white westerners like you are ruining it.

eliminating desire so you do not feel 'pain' is the stupidest thing a person could do, the buddhists are not good at life philosophy, unless you want to live as a beggar-monk ascetic who thinks they have wisdom

>>13220009
>eliminating desire so you do not feel 'pain' is the stupidest thing a person could do, the buddhists are not good at life philosophy
The point isn't to eliminate pain, which is inevitable in life along with pleasure, but to eliminate suffering - the suffering that comes with not equanimously accepting all of experience, in all its pain and pleasure.

http://www.undergrowth.org/trippin_with_the_dalai_lama
then the tibetan book of the dead

>>13219322
Check out What The Buddha Taught by Walpola Rahula as well, here's a PDF:
https://web.ics.purdue.edu/~buddhism/docs/Bhante_Walpola_Rahula-What_the_Buddha_Taught.pdf
Also check out A History of Buddhist Philosophy: Continuities and Discontinuities by David Kalupahana
I also heavily emphasize the work of Nyanananda in this chart, available for free at seeingthroughthenet.net
Those are the works that should make everything click, especially the deeper teachings.
I hope you don't end up just buying one mindfulness book and going on your way, since there's a very compelling and sophisticated philosophy to be found within Buddhism, not just meditation.

>>13220066

not op but ty

>>13220066
Nice chart. Is there a good book regarding how buddhism influenced the culture of eastern countries?

Buddhist cosmology is psychological phenomenology. ..Whether they are actual states or just mind states.

Or whether the two are the same thing.
Worlds=Mind States.

It would be interesting to dig deeper.Seems to bring one to a non dual state.And what happens if there's no mind states does that mean no worlds.No Mind=No Worlds.

For example we're all physically human but some of us live in different mind states such as people who enjoy art,fine dining,experiences just like the devas who enjoy the creation of others.Monastics seem to live like brahmas with little inclination to sensual pleasures.Then competitive cut throat people live like the asuras.people who long for love,long for wealth,long for Fill In The Blanks to fill in a hole live like petas.And there's people who are just content with every thing who live like the contented devas tusita.

The only observation I can make is mind states change more rapidly then actual world's which can take years or aeons to shift.But their both changing.

>>13220009
based retard hedonist

this

>>13219995
I'm into philosophy. I just like the philosophy of buddhism. I wouldn't claim to be a Buddhist or anything like that.

>>13220538
You're right but I'd just like to add that Buddhist cosmology is both representative of mind states and is also literally referring to different realms of rebirth.
It isn't one or the other, but both.

>>13221055
If you like analytic philosophy, Engaging Buddhism is an excellent text on how Buddhist thought is relevant to contemporary analytic philosophy.

Also, I highly recommend The Boddhisattva's Brain for a non-metaphysical take with some good science and comparison to ancient western thought.

>>13221394
>non-metaphysical
Pre-Theravadin Buddhism is also non-metaphysical. It has a cosmology of heavenly beings, gods, ghosts and hells, sure, but it is non-metaphysical.

>>13221409
cope

>>13221539

op is sam harris tier

>>13221409
Metaphysics is inevitable. What I meant was naturalized metaphysics in regards to the book.

>>13219322
Nagarjuna's Letter to a Friend
The Zen Teachings of Huang Po

>>13221372
Not him, but I find that conception utterly profound, and after encountering it came to agree with it myself. Reality and the beings within it are one, and must be seen as such.

>>13223010
>Nagarjuna's Letter to a Friend
Seconding this - it's a brilliant text outlining the practoce.

>>13221829
Of course it fucking is he is just a beginner

>>13223010
>The Zen Teachings of Huang Po
Huang Po was not enlightened the way Hui Neng was.

>>13219941
Hume.

>>13223010
>philosophers know the dhamma

>>13223314
Then Kant.

>>13223318
>>13223314
Fuck off. Just Shoppinghoward.

>>13223010
>>13223275
Cont. Huang Po was a bit too nihilistic and kind of had undercurrents of fetishizing antinomianism.

go to buddhanet.com and check out the audio lectures.