/lit/ - Literature

sanderfag a hack

>>13207414
youre a hack

Why not pick up Guards! Guards! or Small Gods?

Discussion n' shit in next thread!

Yo what's this fag shit

>>13207498
>le quirky British humour
fuck off brit bong you aren't gonna get me with your memes.

>>13207544
Oh how drab must it be being this bitter and angry at anything that tries to be even a little bit fun and wholesome. Are you re-reading Bakkers Second Apocalypse or something even more grim-dark and GRI? Or are you perhaps muttering "Take that, bitches" as the Prince of Thorns rapes yet another small town mayors' daughters before setting fire to their town?

This was 2013
what the fuck Pat, how long does it take to edit a shitty book?

>monthly reading is gene wolfe again
could the retards here be any more boring

>>13207604
If we had known he was going to die Cerberus wouldn't have been chosen in February

Read this, it's a free short story.
No, don't ask why, just read it, you can thank me later.
http://www.skyhunter.com/marcs/GentleSeduction.html

>>13207625
Read it already. Was very impressed.

>>13207516
>incel
That's "beta orbiter", surely?

>>13207498
I've read everything except the last two I believe because his disease became noticeable by then. I figured I'd read Good Omens again though, since there's a TV series out now.

>>13207728
Looks gay

I thought Malazan was a big hit, why did they skimp on the cover artist?
Were they trying to match the quality of the covers to the quality of writing?

>>13207732
Did they intend that moment to be sad?

>>13207762
>Were they trying to match the quality of the covers to the quality of writing?
The answer is in the question.
Yes!

>>13207507
do you ever think that maybe a month of anticipation should be released in more than one thread? we could've been discussing this the whole time

Any good books, preferably fantasy, with no or barely any women? They break immersion and ruin stories, such as in asoiaf where all the female character arcs makes me want to kill myself.

It's fine with female characters in very minor roles, especially in brothels. But I'm looking for a story where they stay the fuck away from a majority of the book.

>>13207864
To expand on this, is the kingkiller chronicle full of women? I have read a few pages and like the style of writing, but I don't want to be disappointed when asoiaf-tier women suddenly pop up and fuck up everything.

how is the latest GGK book? I see that this general likes Tigana

>>13207871
>To expand on this, is the kingkiller chronicle full of women?
No, it's exactly what you're looking for, there's barely any woman. A few women are mentioned, mostly in minor roles early in the first book but they fade away as the story progresses. Also, The MC literally never has a girlfriend nor is he in any kind of relationship in the books released so far. Goes without saying, the books are also well written, so you should read them.

I know it's a little off topic but, can you recommend me a book for learning to write SciFi short stories?

>>13207904
Fantasy > sci fi

>>13207904
There was a chart floating around a short time ago about books for writers. Check the /critique/ thread.

>>13208027
What an excellent not-bait thing to post in the Sci-Fi/Fantasy general.

>>13207842
Talking about a book as a group before everyone in the group (that wants to) has finished it is a dumb idea. Keep the discussion going afterwards if you have more to say. If you don't, what's the problem?

>>13207842
Yeah. However I don't want to do a traditional reading group with deadlines every few days during the whole month. The idea behind /sffg/ monthly reading was never that the participants should spend all month reading the book, but that they should pick it up whenever they have some extra time and then discuss it at the end of the month.

I guess one solution could be to have the fourth week be discussion week. That way we'd have a while to discuss the book while most of the month is still spoiler free.

>>13207842
I like the current format because it means I can just read the book quickly near the end of the month and still partake in discussion.

>>13208118
I'd go the other way: continue to prompt discussion afterwards. Particularly before we've even decided on the next book. Even if it's just something like
>Reminder to share your thoughts on last_book
>>discussion_prompt_post

It would be nice to know the next month's choice a bit longer before the month begins, though.

>>13207864
Black Company doesn't really have a lot of women.

>>13208208
>tfw the Lady is one of the most important characters in the setting
>the White Rose

>>13207597
Your jimmies seem a little too tight there friend.

>>13207597
>Prince of Thorns rapes yet another small town mayors' daughters before setting fire to their town?
tell me more. never read broken empire. how much rape is there?

>>13207625
>>13207634
GRI APPROVAL rates?

>>13208027
Or fantasy, I don't care.

>>13208051
I'll take a look over there then. Actually, I never wrote anything creative since high school and I need something to help me start from scratch.

>>13207734
is that the azure house? Is that supposed to be the jaghut pretending to be death?

>>13207864
Just read tomgirl hentai on sadpanda.

>>13207876
Tigana is the only good book he wrote. Everything else is trash with glimpses of the fantastical.

>>13208180
You only know after the poll is taken.

>>13208273
I think it's seer

>>13208259
GR(I) approved. Plenty of hot mommy incest. Well, as much as you can fit into a short story.

>>13208261
Just start writing and see how it goes. "How to write" books might help you a little bit, but in my experience they're mostly about getting you to think about what you're writing rather than actually teaching you anything. If you read a lot you should be able to have a feeling of what should go where.

>>13207507
>There Are Doors is the story of a man who falls in love with a goddess from an alternate universe.
Sounds like one of my animes

>>13207414
(you)

Is there a cyberpunk book where the protaganist is not enhanced at all and they are just a peak human competing against cyborgs?

>>13208672
my diary

>>13208672
Anime and manga.

>>13207625
this is good but unsettling

>>13208232
I jest.

>>13208248
There's some, but don't bother. The book seems like such a good parody of edgy grim-dark fantasy books with extremely virile master-swordsman teenage protagonists, that it actually is one. And insufferably so.

>>13208672
Possibly Blindsight, but there's more collaboration than competition.

Anyone else spend their time rereading the Kingkiller books nonstop? I just can't get enough of it.

>>13207401
Imagine having proper, thread-fitting charts instead of redundant repetitive drivel.

>>13209273
Dazzle us with your charts girl!
We can always use more.

Anyone here read this? Is it worth it?

>>13209273
You've been whining for what, a week now?
Why haven't you made a single chart in that time then faggot?
Make the charts you want to see included or just fucking hang yourself but stop crying about it in every thread.

>>13207516
not incel, he's just a literal cuck. just like the author

>>13209144
yikes

What are some good science fantasy books?

>>13207516
context on this scene?

>>13209439
Guy watches his oneitis literally whoring herself out.

Literally a bigger cuck than Akka. At least Akka is ashamed of it.

What other sci-fi or fantasy novels do the whole alien race visiting another lesser developed species really well? Something like Hard to be a God. I don't mind whether it is casually hinted at or is obvious to the setting so long as it is done well.

>>13207401
Damn this is a good cover. How bad are the books?

>>13209565
Haven't read it but all the feminists I know irl love it, so you can draw your own conclusions.

>>13207401
opinions on the space opera genre?

>>13209599
good

>>13209596
good lord jesus I want to have sex with that picture.

>>13209627
Have s-
Uh, go ahead I guess.

>>13209596
>Queen Sabran the Ninth must conceive a daughter to protect her realm from destruction
That's a yikes from me.

I don't read sci-fi, but I love the fantasy trope where a young boy is a loser or outcast and then makes some friends and something happens and they go on adventures and train. Basically coming of age sword and sorcery. Is there anything like that in sci-fi?

>>13207516
How do people defend this? Is going up to some guy who is fucking the girl you like and saying "Sure you're balls deep inside the woman I love but at least I've known her longer!" while being unironically proud of it considered a good thing by Rothfuss? I know the guy himself is a massive faggot but seriously? I'm glad I dropped this series halfway through the first book.

I might be retarded. I keep writing and keep realizing that I have no idea what I'm doing.

>>13209565
>read the description
>An ancient enemy awakens
kek

>>13207507
Which book will we read in june? Has it been decided yet?

Anyone have any recommendations for good standalone fantasy books?

>>13210226
>Has it been decided yet?
Is the image really that unclear? Nominations will be collected in the next thread and then we'll vote in the one after that.

What's with all the fantasy spam lately?
I want to read about hot alien chicks in latex, not this fantasy crap.

>>13210372
scifi is also fantasy.

>>13210389
Don't be retarded on purpose anon.
You are so much better than that.

>>13210372
>vagina sticker
nice

>>13207732
>cover spoils a major plot event
goddammit, publishers. stop doing this.

>>13207625
>Tfw no millenia old mommy gf

>>13210406
sci-fi literally is fantasy. it might be based on science but it still is make believe.

>>13207728
Didn't know Elric's black brother was on Malazan

>>13210483
Don't you mean Drizzt's

>>13210389
so is fiction

Anyone read it? How is it?

>>13210490
Drizzt is Elric's manlet cousin

>>13209979
You're lucky. I'm obsessed with it, I hate being left hanging. I need to know how it ends. Don't care about GRRM, don't care about Lynch, Sanderson will keep putting out books with zero delays so that's nice but Patrick is just one big fat cunt.

>>13207401
So lads, I was thinking about putting together a short story collection or two based on what people around here like, maybe even making an ebook out of them and sticking it in the OP since we don't have any short story recs posted.
One for fantasy and one for sci-fi.
Is there any interest for such a thing or would I be wasting my time?

>>13209409
Sunset Warrior
Darkover
Books of Skaith

>>13210372
>What's with all the fantasy spam lately?
Game of Thrones ended.in a few weeks will be talking again about scifi books and time travelling to the past to fuck a younger version of your mother

>>13210476
Pls anon.

>>13210646
Is that how you came to be?

>>13210560
Anon there's a n____r on the cover...

>>13210674
god,i hope so

>>13210675
I like n____r women anon.

>>13209538
Not sure if this counts since the advanced race are humans, but it's about an insterstellar ethnographer who visits a less advanced planet populated by races that are basically equivalent to elves, dwarves, and gnomes.

>>13209565
I heard it described as a "wonderful queer romance", so I'd steer well clear if you ain't queer.

>>13210596
Why not?
Consider Zelazny's For a Breath I Tarry.

I'm looking for a fantasy novel where it's like a very basic premise but very comfy
Like protagonist is the unlikely Hero/Knight/Wizard that goes a epic journey, gathers up a rag tag bunch for a crew, kills the Dragon/Demon/Whatever, and bangs the Princess at the end
Any recs ?

>>13210916
A Man and his Word by Dave Duncan
Riftwar Saga by Raymond Feist

>>13210966
>Dave Duncan
based
Have you read Ironfoot that I rec'd last time?

>>13211006
Not yet,i've been reading dino scifi books these past few months.

I'm reading the wikipedia article for Black Company bros... and honestly it sounds pretty shite
Is this the best /sffg/ has to offer?

>>13211620
no

>>13211290
https://thewest.com.au/news/education/perth-college-puts-parents-on-smut-alert-as-sexually-explicit-novels-rise-in-popularity-ng-b881196245z

It's all fun and memes until you realize the fat fucking cunt is directly adding to the whore epidemic with her trash writing.

>>13211626
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42421171

peak /sffg/

>>13211657
Nobody cares about your shitty book ryan, fuck off.

>>13211641
Sarah's based.

>>13211641
its not like young girls and boys havent been reading smut stories already.
i havent read maas books but it cant be worse than 80s and 90s fantasy smut.

I read some weird 60's book full of sex and drugs when I was about 13; I'm nearly 30 and I've done neither of those things so clearly books aren't that influential.

>>13211620
Read Bakker

>>13211709
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?

>>13211714
Ah thanks buddy I think I had Prince of Nothing bookmarked at some point and forgot about it
Might give it a go even if he's Canadian

>>13211731
No, I don't remember the name; I think there was an apple on the front cover and someone had sex in an apple shaped glory hole while on haluconogenics but it was a long time ago and it honestly didn't leave much of an impression on me, it was mostly confusing if I recall correctly.

>>13211641
WTF? I LOVE SARAH J MASS NOW

>>13211641
>A third reviewer said the “vulgar” sex scenes would have scarred them for life if they had read them as teenager.
SCARRED FOR LIFE

>>13208672
Partaking in /fit/ threads as a natty

>>13207625
based ending

Been going through the reading list, what the hell was Flow My Tears?

>>13209978
Anyone? Basically coming of age fantasy but in a sci-fi setting.

What are some xianxia-esque or actual decent isekai/litRPG-type manga/manhua/manhwa you've read, /lit/?

>>13212135
There r tons
Do ya want me to list em all

>>13212198
TONS OF DECENT, WORTHWHILE READING MATERIAL IN THESE GENRES QUESTION MARK
IN WHAT FUCKING UNIVERSE

>>13212220
None of what you listed are “genres” you fucking clown

>>13212126
Star Wars.

>>13208672
Post your body in /fraud/

Is Sanderson generally good? I just read the first Reckoners book and it was such shit. It really felt like high school Twilight shit with super powers.

>>13212412
Yes

>>13210560
I read the short story. It was an almost comically generic SF story -- could have easily been written by a journeyman in the 1950s -- except for the nigger angle. As far as the standard story + gimmick formula goes, it was fine, but not notable.

>>13211764
Illuminatus! The second book, IIRC.

>>13212412
Sanderson is a decent writer in principle. His talent is wasted on the drivel he writes though. He has a great talent for making incredible worlds and telling compelling stories but he wastes his gift on shit characters, predictably bad plotpoints and as you noticed the targeting of a younger audience. Most of his works are also very formulaic to be "safe" and to appeal to as many young people as possible by never traveling outside of the usual YA tropes.
Im angry and saddened that he wastes his talent so much. He could be one of the greats, but chooses instead to play it safe and write to market.

>>13212450
>Illuminatus!
Holy shit that's it, good job anon.

>>13212468
I am not going to bother finishing this series. Are any of his series worth reading? I just want a good escapism novel. Steel Heart started off so well then the shoehorned love story shit ruined it.

>>13212639
Nah, if you didn't like it skip all of his work. its essentially all the same.

>>13211684
hell Robert A. Heinlein was publishing books about incest and free love back in the 60s. Piers Anthony's Xanth had a book literally titled "the color of her panties." The Pern books had orgies and rape. Gor was just dismissed as "generic sword and sorcery" by parents.

In retrospect I read a lot of stuff that my parents probably wouldn't have wanted me reading. I remember one time I got some military technothriller from the library where halfway through the book the protagonist hooks up with arab female soldier and there was like a chapter long sex scene.

>>13209978
>>13212126

Have you looked at the Vorkosigan series? Broadly The Warrior's Apprentice is kinda like that, this young crippled nobleman fails to get into the military so his parents send him to visit his grandmother but he ends up hijacking a mercenary fleet.

>>13212135
Bumpan

>>13212717
That reminds me, where (if at all) should one start with the Gor books? I'm interested in a bit of kinky submissive stuff with my fantasy, though not necessarily if it gets into Grimdark "everyone was raped and suffered horribly" territory.

Opinions on Battlefield Earth? I'm thinking about finally reading it.

>>13212810
>kinky submissive stuff with my fantasy
Don't do GOR then. It's basically all rape rather than kinky submissiveness.
Try Fostering Faust.

>>13212810
I would suggest looking elsewhere for that, the Gor books are bad to the point of self-parody.

You might try Sarah Hawke's stuff, she's one of the better contemporary EroSFF authors.

>>13212049
Flow My Tears is similar to a lot of Philip K. Dick books. Dude had two big fears that run through all of his writing, and one of them was the idea that reality was illusory or subject to arbitrary change. He wrote several books with that as a core theme; check out Ubik or The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch if you want more. Though Flow My Tears is a bit less weird and more dark than those, probably because he wrote it later in his career.

Late PKD is always an experience, not always a positive one. It's really hard to talk about his books at that point without talking about him as a person. He always had an edge to his writing, but by that point that edge had been honed against decades of mental illness, drug abuse, and massively dysfunctional personal relationships. His novels don't exactly get better across his lifetime, but I do think they get more interesting.

>>13212970
>the Gor books are bad to the point of self-parody
That's personally why I like them. If there is such a thing as a guilty pleasure, this would be it.

>>13212945
Out of curiosity due to its reputation or actual interest in it as a story? Because if it's the later there are dozens of better "humanity enslaved by aliens" books you could read.

>>13213029
yeah it was the later.

>>13213039
Then find something else; it's a story premise that loads of writers have done. Battlefield Earth is long, meandering, and fundamentally boring to read. People wouldn't remember it if it weren't for the terrible movie and connection to Scientology.

>>13210819
Looks like he's riding the Jersey Devil.

>>13213053
Is there any in particular that you recommend?

Those who write here, what are the main themes you try to address?

>>13213474
Before I even think about themes, I worry about my characters and plot. Once I have those, then I think about themes relavent to either characters or the plot - no point forcing somethiing that isn't there, y'know?
Also, in future, >>/write/ (not sure if that'll work, so if it doesn't, know that there's a /write/ general in /lit/, made for talking about writing)

What's with the last few years having lots of self-published work (especially fantasy, but sci fi isn't safe either)? Did someone hit it big?

>>13213508
>What's with the last few years having lots of self-published work (especially fantasy, but sci fi isn't safe either)? Did someone hit it big?
Is it bad? And every time somebody hits it big.

>>13213467
The Alien Years by Robert Silverberg. The Tripod books by John Christopher if you're looking for something more young-adult.

>>13213508
>>/lit/write

>>13213528
Most of it isn't great. Not to say that it's all bad, mind you.

>>13213556
God damn it. >>>/lit/write I think should link the board and then a search for the catalog.

>>13213550
I have fond memories of the tripod books. Do you think they'd hold up on a reread?

>>13213561
They hold up pretty well for kids books, aside from the prequel one which is just redundant.

>>13207516
The second book was some insane and eye-opening stuff for me. The Name of the Wind was alright and I thought a sequel had potential, but the second book is just Kvothe getting laid, getting super epic power-ups, and pining over this girl that he's resigned to never get with. By the time he got to the ninja sex village I had checked out.

>>13211884
based metaphor

>>13212945
I thought it was one of the worst books I'd ever tried to read. "Tried" because I ended up ragequiting around page 100. The dialogue is horrendous and the characters often do unbelievably stupid things. I suppose it might be an enjoyable way to pass the time if you're a 13 year old boy with limited access to sci-fi material, but there's no shortage of books that are more worthy of your time.

>>13213508
>What's with the last few years having lots of self-published work
Fantasy publishers pay literally nothing these days, <10k for most first time writers and the onus is on the writer to market and push the book on social media.
Self publishing is easier than ever in the ebook market and there have been a ton of indie printing presses popping up everywhere too. Investing in an editor or two and a cover artist might put you in the hole for a few grand but at least you won't be signing away most of your profits to publishers for a pittance in advance money.
In short, publishers everywhere are panicking due to dropping hardcover sales, which used to be their biggest source of income and are trying to push the cost everywhere they can including onto writers who have wisened up and realized Amazon is a game changer for self publishing. So we get an avalanche of self published books every year.

>>13209409
Dune

Got this book on discount on Memorial day haven't read it yet.

>>13213595
Rothfuss was a one trick pony. What made him waste half the second book on elf sex, bandit hunting and grrl warrior village shit? It was such a letdown. And what the fuck wad Cinder doing larping as a common bandit? By the end of book two Kvothe should have been expelled for good already. Book 3 is gonna be hilariously rushed

Has anyone read Memory, Sorrow and Thorn? Is it any good?

>>13213737
It's a post-Tolkien classic, with all that entails. I enjoyed it. It's basically an upper-tier Tolkien imitation. I like the more fair-folk-ish elves.

>>13213737
If you hate elves you are gonna love it

Why don't a bunch of us get together and write THE fantasy book of the century? Then we could publish under a pseudonym and split the profits.

How are the Witcher books? I've gotten back into playing Wild Hunt and thought about checking them out

>>13213986
trash and cuckpilled.

>>13213986
They're worth a read, some real good moments. At least read the first two books that are just a collection of short stories.

>>13213986
Give the first two a read and see.

>>13213942
Why don't you write it, then the rest of us can read three pages and tell you it's shit?

thoughts on low fantasy in general?

>>13214261
i oppose it. they should have their own general

>>13214281
Would still do better than a sci-fi general.

>>13212717
>Piers Anthony's Xanth
Are theses books enjoyably shlocky? I actually kinda liked Gor.

>>13214311
yes
gor is far schlockier

>>13214315
>>13214311
are these as fun as the covers make them look?

>>13214311

Up until a certain point, I forget which in my dotage, they are really fun schlock. In full disclosure, their treatment of the threat to human existence as a species when there's so much delicious monster pussy to fuck and giant centaur titties to motorboat was really formational as a child.

>>13214318
they're generally silly and fun, yes
not constantly, though (almost), so you may be let down a little

>>13210916
what you are looking for is The Belgariad by David Eddings. by the sound of it, it's exactly what you are looking for,.

>>13214322
Are you telling me that the big bad is humans fucking monsters so much they're forgetting to breed with their own species?

>>13210234
Tigana

>>13214322
What kind of monster pussy?

>>13214261
Low fantasy is good and necessary. We've already reached a point where subverting expectations has become a trope. The cradle series should probably be considered low fantasy but almost everyone here loves it.

>>13214460
>The cradle series should probably be considered low fantasy
Well, that's by far the most retarded thing I've read today and that's saying something because I've been to /tv/ and then rebbit before coming here.

Let's discuss Mistborn.
What makes the prose so wooden?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9kgwYQ6MPs&feature=youtu.be

We can also discuss Throne of Glass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCkVb8RssfU

>>13214141
I can't write for shit

>>13214536
No one reads Sanderson for the prose, I love his heart pumping sequences and worldbuilding.

My waifu on the right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVzm-nIFRaY

>>13214557
>heart pumping sequences
when do those happen? im about to finish the third mistborn book and the action scenes are pretty boring

>>13214543
>>13214568
whats wrong with their voices?

>>13209452
And at least akka got to fuck the whore.

who is this akka i keep seeing in these threads, and why was he less of a cuck than rothfuss' self-insert?

>>13214570
They only happen in the Stormlight books.

>>13197029
Prose / readability
Characterization
Dialogue
Thematic Allegory

Rest is irrelevant to me.

>>13214747

Is The Way Of Kings worth the read?
Or am I being cucked

>>13214981
borat voice ( I LIKE ) x D

>>13214981
first two books are alright, the third one is trash

>>13214981
Worth a try at least. I liked the books.

Guys, I want some writing advice, because I keep having a recurring problem. I come up with an interesting scenario that I like, with actual compelling characters that make sense, and then as I develop my story I realize my brain goes in all the wrong places, and a day later when I read back what was written I get the feeling it's just a shitty meme-tier self-insert. And as much as I try to avoid it, my brain constantly sabotages me with these shit characters that gain an unwarranted amount of emotional importance in my brain because I realize I'm just relating them to things that have happened to me. And then, rather than finding a way to rip them from the story, my kneejerk reaction is to change the actual story that worked to find way to fit them in. It's cancerous, yet it keeps happening over and over, and like an addict I keep telling myself, "No, you'll make it work this time." Please, help.

>>13209409
Lord of Light

>>13214981
It share the same problem most epic fantasy do, any good moments are lost in thousands of pages of mediocrity.

Anyone know some good fantasy books with bards? Doesn't have to be the main character but someone who is in the story often is fine

>>13214747
Read Bakker.

>>13214764
I'd like to read Stormlight but apparently it's set to be 10 books long and I don't want to wait 30 years for the series to finish.

>>13215133
Anon pretty much all great authors wrote stories that were heavily inspired by or parallel to events that happened in their own lives. Writing a story that is influenced by your own life and character doesn't diminish its value; your story stands or falls on its own merit, whether it's influenced by subjective experience is irrelevant. The reader won't know it anyway, if he did it won't matter, and there's no reason to believe that making it less subjective will magically fix its flaws to begin with.

If you want to have less self inserts in your books, i recommend reading a lot of history and biographies to get an idea of how other men think.

>>13215525
As a wise man once said; journey before sex. Have it.

>>13214981
If you like over the top leftism and awful humor then yeah sure.

>>13215575
Have a journey?

>>13215584
Of all the things Sanderson does badly, leftism and humor are what bothered you the most? Your opinions on why Sanderson is bad are bad and you should slap yourself for being a dumb cunt.

Anyone out there read this. I just picked up an extremely dog-eared second hand copy for cheap. Looks like it might be a good read. That said I've never read any Robinson before, so lets hope I'm right.

>>13214981
I liked it a lot. I know its "Cool" to hate on my boy Sandy here.

>>13215620
Let me know what you think anon. I'll be keeping tabs on you.

>>13208273
It's supposed to be the Pannion Seer, though i recall the corpse being described as naked

>>13207737
Who is this supposed to be? Onrack, Trull or Karsa?

>>13209409
>no gauss cannon emplacements to turn the lizard into minced meat
1/10 defensive positions would not defend

>>13215562
>If you want to have less self inserts in your books, i recommend reading a lot of history and biographies to get an idea of how other men think.
I've done that, anon, I've pretty much got a history/philosophy background which does help me a lot, I must say, especially in being able to come up with realistic conflicts. But, yeah, I just have a stupid problem of getting stuck on certain concepts, and I'm paranoid people will read into things.
Just to give a real but ridiculous example... I have a real thing for brown girls, so even though most of my stories are inspired by Slavic stuff (it's where I grew up), I always need to find some excuse as to why there are cute brown girls around. This kind of happens with a lot of other things, so I think part of it is pure autism and feeling the need to put EVERYTHING into any one story. For example, if I have to write for an assignment, or if someone pays me to write a specific short story, this is never, ever an issue, because I have no determination over the content.

>>13212945
The whole premise that aliens have come to Earth for our gold is inherently ridiculous as random asteroids have more gold than our paltry Earth could ever have

>>13215741
Hell, there are people who seriously believe that aliens would cross lightyears of space in order to eat us in a nutritous soup...

>>13215678
You will never write a good story without writing a lot of shit ones first. Enjoy writing trash that appeals to you and fuck what anyone else thinks about your cute brown Slav fetish girls. Youo're better off writing a bad book than no book.

>>13207401
I was looking for books that were similar to the game Xenogears and was recommended this, and I really liked it. What are some other books that have similar themes?

>>13215869
Word. I have written more in the last 6 months going by this advice than I have in 10 years of waiting for that perfect idea to strike. In fact, whenever that perfect idea struck it turned out to be shit in practice, and the sorta dumb ideas worked out fine when written. Funny.

Is there any notable cyberpunk that doesn't take place in a rampant capitalist dystopia?
Cyberpunk without the cynical corporatism?

>>13215678
I don't know anon. I think you have to exert some will power here. You must not write brown girls into a story set in a slavic setting. In that case you would be right; readers will most definitely read into it and point out your fetish. You have an obligation to write as well as possible. As I said, writing a story inspired by your subjective experience is fine, but indulging your whims against your better judgement is something you should avoid entirely. You should separate the wheat from the chaff anon, and you'll only do it through sheer will power, no getting around it. If that means you'll have to kill some of you babies then you should do it.

>>13215952
>Cyberpunk without the cynical corporatism
thats impossible.
cyberpunk is high tech and low life. theres always a megacorp or government keeping the man down.

>>13215988
What about a socialist state in place of the capitalist megacorp?

A bit like Half Life 2

>>13215525
Brandon is very consistent and the first 5 books are part of their own arc so it doesn't matter. Man up and read it.

>>13215584
There's literally none of that you lying little shit

>>13216008
At that level of control they're the same thing: "just don't call it a governent" coporations aren't any different from government.

I liked Mistborn, but found The Way of Kings kinda boring.

>>13216022
>men are dumb brutes women are purveyors of art and science
>oppressive, racist hierarchy
>noble savages in war with said racist, patriarchal society
Sorry you're a pea brain retard.

>>13216051
this

He stirred first. I nearly woke as he rose, gingerly shook himself, and then stretched more bravely. His superior sense of smell told me that the edge of dawn was in the air. The weak sun had just begun to touch the dew-wet grasses., waking the smells of the earth. Game would be stirring. The hunting would be good.
I’m so tired, I complained. . . Rest a while longer. We’ll hunt later.
You’re tired? I’m so tired that rest won’t ease me. Only the hunt. I felt his wet nose poke my cheek. It was cold. Aren’t you coming? I was sure you’d want to come with me.
I do. I do. But not just yet. Give me just a bit longer.
Very well, little brother. Just a bit longer. Follow me when you will.
. . .But my mind rode with him, as it had so many times. . . swiftly we left the camp behind. . . We walked the spine of the hill, smelling the morning. . . there would be deer in the forested creek bottoms. They would be healthy and strong and fat, a challenge to any pack, let along a single wolf. He would need me at his side to hunt those. He would have to come back for them later. Nevertheless, he halted on the top of the ridge. The morning wind riffled his fur and his ears were perked as he looked down to where we knew they must be.
Good hunting. I’m going now, my brother. He spoke with great determination.
Alone? You can’t bring a buck down alone! I sighed with resignation. Wait, I’ll get up and come with you.
Wait for you? Not Likely! I’ve always had to run ahead of you and show you the way.
Swift as thought, he slipped away from me, running down the hillside like a cloud’s shadow when the wind blows. My connection to him frayed as he went, scattering and floating like dandelion fluff in the wind.
. . . “Wait!” I cried, and in shouting the word, I woke myself. . . my fingers buried deep in his coat. I clutched him to me and my grip sighed his last stilled breath from his lungs. But he was gone. Cold rain was cascading down past the mouth of the cave.

>>13215984
>You have an obligation to write as well as possible
Nonsense. The only "obligation" is to please yourself. If writing about cute brown girls achieves that then all is well.

>>13216149
don't give me a sad :(

>>13216149

Why don’t the old versions of the Wheel in time books have maps?

>>13216225
Ran out of paper after Jordan used it all on "worldbuilding".

>>13216267
kek

>>13216225
adding maps is a fairly new thing

>>13216225
Thank god for that. Any book with a map is instantly suspect.

>>13215952
Unchecked run-away capitalism is the only scenario that can lead to the elite having an unbreakable hold on power, yet the streets being borderline-anarchy. Authoritarian-Socialist dictatorships have a tendency to enforce their arbitrary moral beliefs, or personal opinions, as the rule of law, resulting in people being gulag'd for being gay, smoking pot, or other "anti-social" activities. Cyberpunk requires that anti-social activity is more wide-spread than ever, yet there still be an unbreakable class divide. In short, the elite have to not give a single fuck what the poor do all day, as long as the poor aren't getting in their way. Corporatism fits the bill perfectly. A mega-corp isn't going to harm their own profit margins by wasting money on an anti-drug police force, when they can instead just start selling the drugs themselves, and enjoy the fat bonuses.

What's some apocalyptic stuff like the last policeman and melancholia. Stuff leading up to a guaranteed end of the world

>>13207401
How is The Priory of the Orange Tree? Just bought it on Amazon, seems to have a lot of hype and a lot of good reviews.

>>13216590
rip you dumb little faggot

>>13216616
Wew, calm down faggot. Go eat your tenddies

>>13216057
Nah bro it's cool

>>13216616
A world divided.
A queendom without an heir.
An ancient enemy awakens.

The House of Berethnet has ruled Inys for a thousand years. Still unwed, Queen Sabran the Ninth must conceive a daughter to protect her realm from destruction—but assassins are getting closer to her door.

Ead Duryan is an outsider at court. Though she has risen to the position of lady-in-waiting, she is loyal to a hidden society of mages. Ead keeps a watchful eye on Sabran, secretly protecting her with forbidden magic.

Across the dark sea, Tané has trained all her life to be a dragonrider, but is forced to make a choice that could see her life unravel.

Meanwhile, the divided East and West refuse to parley, and forces of chaos are rising from their sleep.

>kek, imagine paying for this
I hope you at least had the sense to buy the hardcover copy so it can look good on your shelf if nothing else. But based on your decision making skills so far you probably bought the kindle version that you could have gotten for free anyway.

>>13216590
Should have bought Cerce instead, kek

>>13216624
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>>13216678
Three girl leads? Two was pushing it.

>>13216678
Sounds better than 90% of books released these days. Sorry you are an incel and won't read it because it is written by a woman and has women characters in it.

>>13216681
Already have it, not read it yet.

>>13216678
>you probably bought the kindle version that you could have gotten for free anyway.
I paid £1.50 for the kindle version, i'm not poor. £1.50 is nothing.

What piece of fiction comes to mind when you think of an earth colonist?

I've been playing Rimworld and one of the colonist backstories is Earth Colonist.

I'm thinking Robert Heinlein for some reason but maybe I missed something.

>>13216710
>Sounds better than 90% of books released these days. Sorry you are an incel and won't read it because it is written by a woman and has women characters in it.
Except, it sounds EXACTLY like 90% of the books written these days except with more "muh wemen powah!
And I read plenty of books written by female authors, my favorite writer is female(LMB). I just know enough to stay the fuck away from obviously terrible ones that are trying too hard to cater to one market.
That other anon was right, should have just read Miller's Circe if you were going to fall for review bombs from feminists. At least that one lived up to the hype.

>>13216787
I'd rather listen to the oppinions of people who have actually read it and not someone triggered over women.

>>13215525
you could always build a time machine. other than that the end of the series isnt going to be for a while, so you could either read them now and wait for the next volume or wait for them to be finished and read them all. either way you are going to be waiting.

>>13215653
I think its onrack when he frees the deragoth

>>13216844
Or not read them at all. Seems like the best option.

>>13216820
Goodreads reviewers aren't people

>>13216877
It has good reviews literally everywhere.

Speaking of Circe any more good Greek retellings I should be reading?
I've already read Troy by David Gemmell and Latro in the Mist by Pringle man.

>>13216909
Think that author has done other Greek mythology books.

>>13216917
Yeah I already checked it, it's the love story of Achilles and Patroclus. I'll pass.

>>13216909
Miller have written two other books about Greek mythology. One about Galatea and one about Achilles and Patroclus. And considering the success she's enjoying there's probably more on the way.

>>13216948
Galatea is a short story btw.
Hope it's a book about based Athena next.

>>13216948
The Galatea one is only a short story desu, there's also a short story about Philoctetes.

>>13216944
kek

>>13209538
Have you read Childhood's End? Maybe not quite what you're looking for as the lesser developed species is humanity but it's a good, quick read.

>>13216820
I'm interested too, read it and report back with results anon.

Anyone read any of Octavia Butlers work? How is it? Bit worried it's some Yankee Doodle race shit.

>>13214543
More like Kingdom of ASS

>>13215525
Sanderson is a machine and does quickly finish what he starts.

thoughts on pic related? I found it in the attic, not as discussed as his other novels

Any fantasy books like this ?

Any post-apocalyptic settings that somehow aren't such terrible places to live? Something like Adventure Time, except maybe not so wacky and randumb.

>>13217563
>Something like Adventure Time, except maybe not so wacky and randumb.

>>13217346
The problem is he jumps constantly from one project to another. Dude never stops writing but takes breaks from writing his big epic fantasy series by working on other big epic fantasy series.

>>13215763
>implying it wouldn't happen
Aren't paying attention to news? The military are admitting that they are covering up UFO sightings.

>>13216877
>Goodreads reviewers aren't people
Come on anon...

>>13217933
Especially not you Kevin.

>>13209978
You could try Night Lamp or Emphyrio by Wolfe.

>>13217940
>Emphyrio by Wolfe.
You mean Vance?

>>13217952
they're the same person really

>>13216149
>Good hunting. I’m going now, my brother.
The moment I break every single time

>>13207401
I have a bunch of half baked science-fantasy ideas. would anyone be willing to look over my autism?

>>13217981
post em

>>13217940
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>>13217977
Yeah I meant Vance I'm retarded, I was just thinking about the big Pringle again lads. Still can't believe he's gone.

>>13218000
He will always be one fresh pop away.

>300 posts
>No Zelazny
None of you belong here

What's your opinion on the Farseer Trilogy?

>>13218031
>lord of light
>no zelazny
When you wanna talk out your ass, just don't.

>>13218060
Liveship = tawny man > fitz and the fool > farseer
Assassin's quest is just not a good book
Never read rainwild

>>13218068
That's not a cover, anon

>>13218060
I couldn't make it through Royal Assassin because of how fucking obvious Hobb makes it that everything's about to go to shit.
Loved Liveship but nothing else of hers has ever clicked

>>13216543
The Genocides

I’m looking for something like Chronicles of Narnia but not didactic or for children.

>>13218148
Pick any isekai light novel at random.

>>13218158
No thanks. I’m looking for prose.

Thread Slave hurry Up.

To the pol anon that wanted books with slaves accepting their slavery, look no further than the continued existent of our general.

>>13218185
We're on page 3

>>13217981
>>13217996
>A girl from the 21st century is revived from stasis centuries in the future and awakens to a spacefaring society where humanity has integrated with several alien species. After coming into contact with an ancient artifact she gets swept up into an interspecies conflict that threatens to tear known space apart.

Both Star Wars and Mass Effect have been fucked as IPs so I set out to create a space opera universe inspired by both of them. At this point it's basically current year in space.
It's a bit of a clusterfuck right now because I can't decide what plots to focus on

>>13218060
Fitz is a bigger cuck than Akka.
What are some other fantasy series with bigger cucks than Akka?

Anyone here read The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect? Just began reading it and while I tend to like horror-tinged transhumanist sci-fi, this just feels like I'm reading extremely fucked up porn. I already have half a mind to delete it, but it seems well-received in most corners of the web where it comes up

>>13218257
molly was a bad fit and burrich did him a favor. Burrich should have never died and fitz should have gone to someone who actually accepted who he was and his decisions like kettricken instead of ungrateful molly unable to accept that there were things more important than her

/sffg/, what book do you think has the best character interactions? I'm talking about dialog that's funny, dynamics that work perfectly, interactions that either warm your frozen heart, shatter it into a million pieces, or get it beating so fast it shatters on its own

A shooting star whizzed across the sky, causing countless of super powers to appear on Earth. However, the main characters that awaken during this phenomenon aren’t humans, but cats…

During this event, this same thought appeared in the minds of countless cats: “Am I a god?”
Zhao Yao, an ordinary human, is the only person that can control these super-cats. Zhao Yao: “Am I a god?”

>>13214435

No, the big bad is a complacent monarchy that must be overthrown by a benevolent, yet Evil, magician who will transform this backwards magical land into a forward thinking society just as he transformed all who opposed him into trees and fish.

>>13214452

Centaurs and harpies are the main one. But every "mix" species is the result of humans fucking monsters.

>>13216322
why?

>>13218683
Is there graphic human male on centaur/harpy sex?

>>13218674
What?

>>13218690

Nothing graphic, just a lot of lewd fanservice and "ecchi" stuff. The author has a weird dual target audience of young men who want to jack off but can't get porn and young women who like strong female characters.

>>13218384
>yfw the post-Farseer-trilogy books imply that Kettricken should have been who Fitz ended up with and that he would have been far happier that way

As always, a thread right on time boys. You're welcome.

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