/lit/ - Literature

>>13200650
Why is this motherfucker so fucking cryptic ? It's like every line was written by some squirrel on meth

yes

yes, there should only be one gender. Men (female)

>>13200650
Aren't they all trannies?

>>13200650
You cant be too bold with the future watching.

>>13200669
Because he doesn’t really know what he’s talking about

>>13200775
>>13200669
>>13200784

>>13200650
Why do gender accelerationists privilege transsexualism as a means to reaching "the outside"? Awfully arbitrary. Why not pedo/acc, or bestiality/acc? Idk, just seems like a massive cope for mental illness to me.

>The trans woman is an insurgent against patriarchy who is continually flanking it, introducing an affirmative zero into the gender binary, the affirmative zero which reaches ever more configurations in the downward cascade of gender fragmentation away from the binary and ultimately away from the human itself. It is a process of gender shredding where the feminine wins out in a cybernetic warfare against the crumbling tower of the masculine, and where therefore human reproduction becomes impossible. And yet while doing so, in affirming zero, inhuman desire and inhuman sentience develops alongside and in the same fashion as trans women.

>As humanity on nearly every front definitively proves that it is not fit for the future, and that women will find their own exit while the masculine languishes in resentment, the Thalassal upswelling of gender acceleration births from its slimy womb the only daughters that trans women will ever bear: AI.

>>13200650
Just imagine the manly hands of these trannies typing away their tweets

>>13200650
Gender Accelerationist Black Metal when? I could totally plays some GABM in the background while lounge in my programming socks.

>>13200796
It has a-lot to do with cyber/xeno-feminism. bestiality/acc is essentially g/acc's end goal a huge slime ocean of gender-less feminine singularity is pretty beastly. pedo/acc is something of a nature but maybe your on to something, i'll have to think of something of it, but pedo/acc sounds like an easy way to get monitored by the fbi

>>13200650
this meme stopped being funny three years ago

>>13200796
〔〔 〕〕 〔 〕 The story goes like this: males are captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalitization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off. Logistically accelerating techno-economic interactivity crumbles social order in auto-sophisticating machine runaway while women all die off.

>>13200775
hey my ireland-hate oc became a meme!

>>13200796
NEW
AMAZONS

What is xenofeminism?
Why is xenomasculism not a thing? Men are inarguably superior sex.

Can someone clarify accelerationism? Getting past something by way of singularity?

I have interesting things to add along these lines, but I can’t add anything when I don’t know what the thing is in which I’d add to.

>>13200860
read a book

>>13200841
How do people take this shit seriously

>>13200860
hey guys answer all these questions I have because im too lazy to google search anything

>>13200860
men are the superior sex because of their autism, they will become the only sex but male (female). If you understand me.

>>13200875
Can you you even answer my questions?

I read jacobite, google a term, then need to google a term and so on. This is a case where you’d be able to make a post in a few minutes (if you know what you’re talking about) that would save me a few hours.

We could have a dialogue and maybe both get somewhere.

or not bitch

>>13200860
>What is xenofeminism?
Shulamith Firestone. Artificial wombs. Liberating the feminine from the biological. Basically something made up to give social studies phds jobs.

>>13200879
No I don’t understand you, and I’m not sure it was autism that created modern society and virtually everything in it.

>>13200874
There's a reason no one but a group of 3 or 4 twitter schizos talk about it

>>13200860
Are you familiar with that dark and edgy phase teens go through? Add a couple of IQ points, a ton of retarded french literature and an annoying habit to create neologism and you got yourself accelerationism.

>>13200893
Oh, so it’s definitely some tranny shit.

How does it relate to accelerationism

>>13200892
a few hours of reading should be the bare minimum before you get to have a dialogue. literally never going to make it anon.

>>13200933
https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/

>>13200669
imagine being this smoth brained
>>13200796
traps are cute

>>13200892
>I read jacobite
>I'm functionally illiterate
>I'm lazy
>I rely on other people thinking for me
>I also think I have interesting things to add
too slow

>>13200946
/g/ absolutely btfo

>>13200933
>How does it relate to accelerationism?
Gender as the locus of acceleration; "If everyone is some sort of cyborg tranny, then no one is!". Result is abolition of sex, gender etc.

>>13200900
As I understand it, techno capitalism has ruined gender in developed countries, not in an ideal metaphysical art type of way but a societal organisation kind of way. The feminine and the masculine still exists and will continue to exist. Accelerating capital made the work-at home woman into a job, replacing the feminine family component with a random Mexican lady while sending the woman into a job to be for the collective other instead of being for the man.
A 'trans' (doesn't have to be physically trans, mentality is more important. So a trap essentially) 'woman' (man) is in a way a developed human. Male autism with female productivity.

>>13200962
who is this plastic robot

>>13200802
that picture lmao

>>13201004
my gf (male)

>>13200892
Yea, sure if you want to have a dialogue we can have one, but I can't have a dialogue with a person that has no understanding it ends up being a one-sided teaching session. I'll send you to read a few things that aren't complete cancer nonsense and actually frankly easy to digest.

G/ACC Blackpaper for obvious reasons don't worry to much if you don't get it initially
https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/
Alien Rhythms: Xenomorphic Extremism. This article is really fucking good and to be honest, even if you don't enjoy any cyber/xeno bullshit its really enjoyable. It explains the very nature of the term "xeno" which can be very helpful to get the gist of xeno-feminism
https://zinzrinz.blogspot.com/2019/04/alien-rhythms.html
Now to understand xenofeminism one has to understand:What is the history of this xenofeminism? Well, it originated from Plant's CYBERfeminism. Here-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberfeminism- for more information. The term Cyberfeminism was coined in the Haraway's manifesto which is really good and helpful stuff(https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/arts/english/currentstudents/undergraduate/modules/fictionnownarrativemediaandtheoryinthe21stcentury/manifestly_haraway

So, to get stop rambling at get to the point. Read the articles leaked above to get a feel.

Read The Cyborg Manifesto to really understand the origination of xenofeminism:https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/arts/english/currentstudents/undergraduate/modules/fictionnownarrativemediaandtheoryinthe21stcentury/manifestly_haraway_----_a_cyborg_manifesto_science_technology_and_socialist-feminism_in_the_....pdf (notice its from Warwick)
And for xenofeminism theres tons of good books like-The Xenofeminist Manifesto: A Politics for Alienation and a few others but this unneccesary as theres tons of stuff online for you and im sure you can come to a consensus through osmosis assuming you read around a bit and or follow all the twitter schizo friends.

Well, thats pretty much it <6hrs of reading. Just hang around and read up on it here and there its not complicated once you understand the base and pickup the lingo. Also, a lot of these cyber ideology's love to have artistic takes on them hence people like Ireland and Land not essentially being 100% PHILOSOPHER HARDCORE FACTS, its a very Guattarian artistic filled field.

Anyways hope we can have some dialogue soon, cheers mate.

>yes I know it seems lazy to link a ton of stuff and essentially say "go read some shit faggot" but its necessary as if I were to explain it to you a mistranslation of what xenofeminism really is my slip through due to my bias or perspective on it

sometimes someones goal in life is to be literal cannon fodder as long as they can wear a faux general's uniform

>>13201042
ALSO, i forgot to mention the cyberfeminism wikipedia page is really fucking well done
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberfeminism

A reminder to n1x; I, a metaphysical voluntarist and neoclassical economist, currently own your 8ch board.

>>13201042
>implying i'm gonna read all that shit

okay cool
who do you main on mortal kombat

IS THE INTERNET A RHIZOME
>>13201094
Mortal Kombat is for homos i play KoF

>>13201094
cassie cage and reptile

>>13200893
https://teoriaevolutiva.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/firestone-shulamith-dialectic-sex-case-feminist-revolution.pdf
interesting

>>13201042
thanks for links

>>13201100
>IS THE INTERNET A RHIZOME
No my man it's much worse.

>>13201042
That Alien Rhythms article is godlike can confirm, it actually made me buy Roadside picnic and rewatch annihilation lol

>>13201129
explain your theorie

I'm mutuals with her and Nick Land on twitter

>>13200669
Obscurantist. Can be seen with his Deleuze, Guattari, and Bataille influences and how he grew less enamored with the ideas of Kant the more he drugged himself so he could be the meme "crazy-man genius" (which is just as bad as the "depressed poet", only at least the poet is being an actual poet even if some of his misery is faked, while Land is busy both pretending to be a genius and a crazy-man (aka total fraud obscurantist)), but he should be respected for his cultural impact.

>>13201147
>rewatch annihilation
such a shame than the book is mediocre

>>13201152
The internet does not require food, water & light.

>>13201042
>>yes I know it seems lazy to link a ton of stuff and essentially say "go read some shit faggot" but its necessary as if I were to explain it to you a mistranslation of what xenofeminism really is my slip through due to my bias or perspective on it
In other words:
>It'll sound like nonsense unless you're already thoroughly assimilated by the worldview
Epic.

>>13201159
Yup :/, the article blew my mind with a perspective I never even thought of though, really renewed my interest in all these sci-fi "zone" books and the chart showing pornographic images of Humans to Unconventional non-humanoids was funny but interesting shit, def a /b/ chart,

>>13200796
it is a cope, which is the whole point. That is exactly why gender lines will be blurred and it will end up existing: capitalism will eventually exploit that cope. The tranny acc are too dumb to realize this though, which makes it funny, because veen if they are right, they are making fun of themselves while doing it.

Then there are the retarded xenofeminists, who think feminism will still survive after gender lines are erased, and being a woman doesn't even really exist anymore, and is turned into just a being "feminine" (because capitalism will eradicate gender from a biological framework to a social framework, because appearance is easier to control).

>>13201171
it requires electricity though

>>13200650
G/acc is for literal faggots and they should KYS immediately. Here's a brief summary of the predicament we find ourselves in.

Oligarchs from around 2000 years ago have chosen to take the left half of the kabbalah and become their own Gods in a rejection of the logos. (See J__ Revolutionary Spirit -E. Michel Jones) The main goal is transhumanism by altering human DNA. The inevitable goal is for humans to evolve/devolve (wording depending if you are mentally ill or not) into an ocean of genderless sentient slime. Their words, not mine. In Jewish mythos, Lilith is the first female. Not created by God (through Adam's rib), but by her own self creation(?) (I'm a strong independent woman who don't need no God). In this myth, she is the serpent not Satan. She lesbian-seduces eve with a mythical dilo, the Acéphallus, (not making this up) to subvert God's design of Constructive reproduction. The Acéphallus is a rejection of the reproduction of God through heterosexual human reproduction. It reproduces itself by reproducing the void, cancer, sterile demons.

The only thing Lilith can spawn are demons. Cancer cell begets more cancer.

Fast forward, the oligarhs in their quest to end humanity through "transcending it" are violently attacking all order and structure. This work focuses on the destruction of natural gender and reproduction. This is symbolized by the Trans (probably any other their names would get me banned. Most tech companies are pro-genderless slime future. Nyx argues that Closed source software is masculine where as open source is entropic and feminine. Correctly pointing out that the bugmen promoting open source are mostly basedboys and literal cuckolds.

Like the planed AI revolution to destroy humanity, the Tr*ns 'woman', is set to destroy gender. (I'm repeating their words) If an AI lies to a human, it is to be destroyed. It is here that they draw parallels to the tr*ns lying about it's reproductive abilities. "For AI and trans women, passing equals suitability."

IQ Shredder concept shows the globalist setup we have now to encourage the smartest people not to reproduce. The black paper shows the similar concept of the Gender Shredder through tactical use of the Tr*ns and technologies. (Pharma, media, immigration) As gender accelerates, as trans women intensify the logic of gender, they simultaneously shred gender. The notion of IQ shredding follows the same form where the acceleration of human intelligence ultimately destroys human intelligence by making the ability to pass on those genes more and more difficult. Reproduction collapses in on itself and demands the succession of an inhuman assemblage.

>>13200650
>>13201209

By perverting everything about gender, they undermine the real feminine and wipe out the masculine. The later being done as we see already through chemicals, propaganda, genocide, etc.

Building, creation, order, logic, reason, are all masculine energies.
Deconstruction, fluidity, entropy, are feminine. And with the laws of thermodynamics are eternally wearing away any positive creation in the world.

If you look at the people promoting this, you see mostly J*ws, and incredibly mentally ill people. (check their twitters) These are the people that promote themselves as the hyper-sexual spawn of Lilith. They embrace the bugman life to a degree for which they mutilate their own body and seek to become the slime. Again, that's their OWN state goal. Ask yourself if after knowing the intention of people, can you agree with even their seemingly 'good' ideas? (progressive, post modern, post structuralist, etc)

There's more to the reading, and it's certainly not boring. But I won't write a full essay here. It's written by someone who believes since entropy is a thermodynamic law, that means it has already won. So if you have anything other than death cultish nihilism or don't think genderless slime future is good, you might get a bit blackpilled. But then just look at how these people look phsyically, and then you realize that all it takes a little bit of pushback and their grand design falls apart. I almost think all this left-hand LARPing is a post-hoc rationalization or explanation of entropy, rather than the cause.

What do we do? Do we turn to God? Could that even work when so few people people. As of now the only proof I have of God is that such beyond biblical level evil exists (and some might consider winning). As waves erode concrete levee, so does the entropy erode all positive constructs. Do we consider the gradual eroding a success for the waves? Not really, as long as we keep rebuilding the levee it will hold and we will have pushed back the entropy. It's a never ending battle to keep from unironically being genderless slime. If we could remove the "revolutionaries", all the better.

Who will win the ultimate battle of existence? Find out on next episode of clown world.

>>13201196
Precisely correct.

>>13201209
So we are living a giant Evangelion fanfic?

>>13201230
If you trust jewish oligarchs that want to become Gods by perverting their DNA, then sure.

>>13200650
The people promoting this are a tiny tiny group of mentally ill trannies. It's a post hoc rationalization for why they are on the "right side of history" by being mentally ill. The lucifiarian jews want transhumanism and the subjection of the "lesser races" so in the end these freaks are right in that way.

>>13201219
They told me to read g/acc a few months back and after considerable amt. of reading I can't find an actual good reason for a genderless slime future so I just ended up harboring all this very hyper rationalistic internet ideology in full form which just made me schizotypal. I'm convinced but unsure why only one of these futures is an option why has there yet to be a left-g/acc consideration? That would be interesting. It's very entertaining stuff and very consumable, just not at all very healthy theorizing. I actually really enjoy the Guattarian artistic route a lot of these "theorist" its really enjoyable stuff. All I hope to do is write a somewhat famous blog in the future but it seems as if it that time has passed an I'll have to settle down to twitter posting.

>>13201042
The first article is retarded. She/he says that women control computer science, and disregards all notable males in computer science because they are feminine (her/his justification for why they're feminine is because they are not masculine, as if masculinity and femininity are clear binaries and oppositions, meaning he/she doesn't even truly believe what she/he is talking about).

>>13201219
>>13201209
Correct

>>13201256
>mentally ill person has batshit retarded reasoning
really makes you think

>>13201255
>I can't find an actual good reason
Because there isn't. There is no compelling reason other than "entropy will destroy all, let's get it over with". It's the same mindset of fags when they bugchase. It's common for them to be so scared of AIDS that they get it on purpose so they don't have to be afraid of catching it. That's their literal reasoning.

>left-g/acc consideration
You'll need to explain. left/right hardly means anything anymore. In my view g/acc is full left wing political and lucifiarian (left hand path)

>>13201219
>Destruction is bad
but destruction is necessary for creation. The problem with the twitter trannies is that they are clearly a weak and mentally ill group that is given credence only because of the liberal values of compassion (pity) and equality (can't even exist). The question is, which will be destroyed first?

>>13201219
am mentally ill, can confirm I'm a trap deconstructionist accelerationist but also a Caesarian traditionalist

I thought this channel was about books and novels and shit not chicks with dicks

>>13201042
>https://zinzrinz.blogspot.com/2019/04/alien-rhythms.html
isn't this just copying Nietzsche's perception of evil from the gay science and changing terminaology to seem cooler and mask their philosophy behind art and obscurantism?

>>13201274
>liberal values
>compassion
>equality
>g/acc
spend 5 minutes on n1x's twitter

>>13200766
yes

>>13201274
>but destruction is necessary for creation
There's more nuance to that concept, but that does not refute anything I said. Deconstruction is a tool, but most these days use it as an end goal. Or are at least deconstructing the good parts of what we have already built.
>which will be destroyed first?
Right off the bat, 40% of the trannies off themselves, so that's a bonus.

>>13201271
Well /acc (the base ideology) has r/acc (full drive into capitalist pursuit) and l/acc (moldbuggian reactionaries) obviously land has moved onto more Economical perspectives but knowing the direction the world is heading massive change will soon be necessity(this is pretty much his thinking). Also, with every year that passes A.I. will still come, but a hyper-capitalistic future is inevitable.

Anyways what I meant by r-g/acc and l-g/acc is that the r-g/acc should be considered R because it takes in the thought of a full throttle drive into a genderless slime ocean because it is good and the only way through(like r/acc). There should be l-g/acc theorist trying to take a more reasonable or logical route to the genderless slime world without the chaos and disorder and maybe unrealistic thinking that r-g/acc have of full dick throttling into a world of singularity 'just because'. But the fact that their isent a development might prove your point that all g/acc theorist are just mentally ill

>>13201299
>There should be l-g/acc theorist trying to take a more reasonable or logical route
In your world,
Right = good and only way
Left = reasonable and logic
?? Once again, left/right dichotomy doesn't convey meaning because we all mean different things when we say L/R.

>>13200650
Neovagina arrived from the future

https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/

>>13201316
Well, what I meant is L should be more of a reactionary thinking while R should be more so, uh..... you know..the principal thinking/choice...uh...fuck your right

>>13200860
They argue for xeno*feminism* in lieu of masculism because masculinity is a negative identity; ie to be a man is to not be a woman (basically), there is a wider array of feminities and as such, more room for technocapital to work in. Or that's the impression I got from some interviews with Nyx Land

>>13201334
It honestly sucks that words have been so subverted that we can't even convey meaning. I unironically blame intentional subversion. It's their specialty, the "Southern poverty law center" doesn't do anything for southern poverty. It just attacks goyim. "Planned parenthood" is nothing about parenting, it's about keeping it from happening. The jew is a natural perverter of words going back to the rabbinical oral traditions to subvert the will of God. Sadly most things go back to them and their ilk.

>>13201355
>masculinity is a negative identity; ie to be a man is to not be a woman (basically)
One of the many ridiculous false premises that they base an ideology on.

>>13201355
>ie to be a man is to not be a woman (basically)
Wtf? Historically the masculine has been THE self-affirming identity par excellence (e.g. the logos). The real reason is that xenofeminism is the brain child of a bunch of progressive tradition hating academics.

>>13201389
>xenofeminism is the brain child of a bunch of progressive tradition hating ((jewish)) academics.
DING DING DING we have a winner!

>>13201209
>>13201219
Most based thing I've read in years.

>>13201401
>Firestone was born Shulamith Bath Shmuel Ben Ari Feuerstein[1] in Ottawa, Canada. She was born on January 7, 1945[5] and was the second of six children and the first daughter of Orthodox Jewish parents Kate Weiss, a German, and Sol Feuerstein, a Brooklyn salesman.

>>13201156
>Obscurantist.
Not really. A lot of what they allude to cant be directly put into words so they attempt to bridge the gap with metaphor. Its like constructing a jigsaw puzzle without knowing the final picture. If it were easy to talk about someone would have done it by now.

>My patreon... Pls... Here's my patreon... My hormones are tuning back to the cosmic order... Patreon... HRT... Pharma... Benis...

>>13201423
based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BGXLf_y9Sw

>>13201402
thanks my dude. I'm trying anything I can do to fight the clown world tide

>>13201410
every time, go figure...

>>13201437
I've gone completely insane from it and am listening and practising everything and every side, every fetish. Everything.

>>13201429
Didn't he die? Sucks that he was actually a good streamer before all that shit. I knew as soon as he started painting his nails maroon some funny shit was bound to happen

>>13201451
Update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iarp8IT349E
Hes still out and about losing his mind

>>13201445
>every fetish
Jews promote the concept of "leaning into" bad things to make it tolerable. I reject that notion not only from the logical fallacy but also from experience. Never does something get better when you try to accelerate it or embrace it. Remove yourself from contact with the degenerate shit and your life will improve greatly. Mine has already gone from blackpilled to almost optimistic. The demo here is mostly autistic but decently smart enough to be of some use to the side of the light.

>>13201445
...every?

>>13201459
joker moment, I've gone fucking insane

>>13201280
Are you me?

>>13201209
>Oligarchs from around 2000 years ago
>J*ws
g/acc, trans*, oligarchs, and Jews are distinct from one another. g/acc is a minority position that doesn't really reflect trans leftism at all and capitalist oligarchs are directly against leftism. You didn't mention capitalism at all which has no specific ethnoreligious group controlling it. There is a distinct conceptual thought-form that comes from this ~2000 year period but its not a secret order handed down by individuals, just a common human reaction to material conditions.
>>13201219
>What do we do? Do we turn to God? Could that even work when so few people people.
There was a great Land thread yesterday discussing the Cathedral and protestant puritan ethics as they are imposed by modern neoliberal capitalism. I don't agree with his prescription but the diagnosis is spot on. Have you even actually read Land? It might help. Actually history too and if you like Christianity so much read up on its history as well.

Philip K Dicks exegesis could be a fun way to explore the Cathedral and learn about orthodoxy gnosticism and Rome's corruption of Christs message. I'm not a Christian exactly either but the adversary to the though-form I mentioned above would be that concept.
https://socialecologies.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/philip-k-dick-nick-land-escape-to-the-future/

>pol arrives and thread goes to shit

>>13201464
>>13201459
but I did get some interesting points from not fearing any of it. Any sort of filth fetish has its roots in giving, a mothers milk, the skies rain. It's both giving someone part of their energy that has been turned into waste. Being grateful for something that comes from someone else's flesh machine.
Necrophilia both has to do with the love for life, placing your life into the dead but also a worship of death and wanting to see if there's something after.
ageplay has to do with potential, innocence and often just simply pure flesh. Something that resembles a human but isn't fully human, still potential. The wanting of something that is pure human ideal form but non human, a reflection of yourself from a better time too.
Race-play is the ultimate taboo, there's a reason why 'the story of the eye' ends on that note without even going into it, it's more taboo than raping a priest or eating a testicle and eye which are all eggs. It has to do with absolute sacrifice. A sacrifice of your entire collectivity. Total submission.
Want to learn about something else?

>>13201287
if you managed to read my post at all, you would know I said they were given CREDENCE because of the liberal values of PITY (concern for suffering) and EQUITY (the need to give everyone equal opportunity). I was saying people pity the trannies and want to give them a voice. These are the people I go on this website with...

>>13201298
>There's more nuance to that concept
first, there isn't more nuance to it. It can be expanded on and detailed, but this isn't what nuanced means.
>that does not refute anything I said
The idea that destruction is necessary for creation does absolutely refute the idea that their destruction is bad because they are destroying "what is good" (or, what is old if you've ever read N).

>>13200796
The basic thesis is that of capitalism and technology being inherently emasculating and feminising as men create their own replacement and that women be shopping. Don't be fooled, it is not an alternative to mainline Accelerationism, mostly just making that case that men will be first to go, but eventually so do women, trannys, and whoever else.

>>13201271
>You'll need to explain. left/right hardly means anything anymore. In my view g/acc is full left wing political and lucifiarian (left hand path)
In left being common ownership of the means of production and right being anything in opposition to that. Oligarchs are in opposition to giving away their ownership of private property so they cant be aligned. Your use of terms like luciferian seem alarmist and a bit schizophrenic but in a useful and meaningful way. What I mean is that your not exactly wrong but its clear you imply a heavy bias by that.

God is dead and you must go beyond good and evil. The demiurge was defeated and now we move between paths. Magic and gods aren't actually real they are really actual. The left hand path is the application knowledge as power: slave morality. Nietzsche is dead.

>>13201481
g/acc & trans are mentally ill people cultivated from the subversive machinations of the oligarcs. Who happen to be disproportionatly jewish. Or more specifically lucifiarian sects of abrahamic foundaitons.

>capitalist oligarchs are directly against leftism
Oligarchs seek transhumanism as an ultimate goal. L/R politics are a false dichotomy just as capitalism and socialism etc. The leaders of both parties serve the zionist / progressive (transhumanism) agenda.

>There was a great Land thread yesterday discussing the Cathedral and protestant puritan ethics as they are imposed by modern neoliberal capitalism. I don't agree with his prescription but the diagnosis is spot on. Have you even actually read Land? It might help. Actually history too and if you like Christianity so much read up on its history as well.
Is this a counter point or an affirmation of the premise?

The highest level battle I've seen so far is the right hand vs left hand path. Right now the left hand is attempting to become their own gods through transhumanism. While doing this they are destroying the world and directly negatively affecting our lives. Would a pure Right-hand world order do similar? Who knows, but right now the people that need to be stopped are the Left-hand.

>>13201412
People are talking about it retard, and have been for the last 40 years in the most popular regions of entertainment. Land's whole philosophy was derived from pop-scifi. Then Land the obscurantist mixes it in with a little obscurantist post-modernism that is mostly just ripping off N and blam! Obscurantist meme pseud philosopher created!

>>13201491
>ironic how as soon as you post this the thread gets even more shit thrown on it

>>13201504
>The idea that destruction is necessary for creation does absolutely refute the idea that their destruction is bad because they are destroying "what is good" (or, what is old if you've ever read N).
Destruction is a tool.
Destroying "old" things for the sake of it is "bad".
Destroying things that work with no intent to rebuild or with a worse solution is "bad".
Destroying subversive things is "good".


Are you understanding? I never implied ALL destruction is "bad".

>>13201412
>without knowing the final picture
funny, because they don't even know the final picture! Which is exactly why they are obscurantists.

>>13201503
Yeah, where does my latex/leather/bondage and femdon fetish come from

>>13201299
regular L ends with gay space communism, not much different than genderless slime ocean. g/acc is R because it rests on r/acc and skipping the work of doing communism killing billions in the process to satisfy individual desire. critiques of Scandinavian socdems relying on third world slave labor would apply here as to why g/acc is not left.

>>13201532
>Destroying subversive things is "good"
all destruction is subversive.

>>13201513
>God is dead and you must go beyond good and evil.
God's existence or not has no barring on my worldview, but the people who control our world believe. And in that sense it doesn't matter if I do or not when the rules are set by them. Lucifarian has bad dogma attached to it, but I mean it in the sort of "they seek to become their own ultimate being" and they worship themselves. It's common occult

>Oligarchs are in opposition to giving away their ownership of private property so they cant be aligned.
That's true, if the oligarchs were even on a side. The bank finances both sides of the war. Most things (and yes I understand how schizo it may seem to be talking of worldwide "conspiracies") are just the Spectacle.

>What I mean is that your not exactly wrong but its clear you imply a heavy bias by that.
I'm sure if we were in a full God-like society I would feel trampled upon as well. But right now the lucificarian oligarchs are in charge and those are people enacting policies I don't like. We're it the other way around, I'd probably be asserting we should reject God and become our own divine sparks. I'm contrarian I guess.

>The demiurge was defeated and now we move between paths. Magic and gods aren't actually real they are really actual. The left hand path is the application knowledge as power: slave morality. Nietzsche is dead.
I'm not familiar enough with the references to refute or agree with this. My knowledge of the demiurge is solely from this meme

>>13201549
>all destruction is subversive.
By textbook definitions yes. But in the frame of reference in this conversation I mean subversive as "evil" things. You can subvert an evil institution but I personally woudln't call it that. I would consider it a positive action to destroy something evil.

>>13201503
I have to say, sexuality is one of the most interesting things to analyze, only because psychology is in such an elementary state, and you can easily draw "contradicting" conclusions.
For instance, is femdom attractive to someone because they are sexually coping for humiliation experienced at a point in life, or because they are dominant most of their life with women, so a distance is created with submission with women?
Or, is BDSM a cope for a lack of power, or a manifestation of power?

>>13201567
>frued
>DSM5
>sexual psychology
>femdom
I've found that in life the further you say away from jewish thinkers, the closer you are to any sort of universal truth. Sadly there are few Gentile psychologists.

>all the retards ITT taking this topic seriously

>>13201515
Are you just saying that slave morality is bad? What is the Right hand path to you? Because to me its physical power as truth ie: I am correct because I can kill you. Metaphorically if we say left hand is black magic our essentially critiquing the use of knowledge(chemistry, biology, technology) to control peoples behavior, if we start riffing from the wiki white magic is its opposite: but white mages rely on physical force by others to protect them

>>13201553
>I'm not familiar enough with the references to refute or agree with this. My knowledge of the demiurge is solely from this meme.
That would be my most important part. Lucifer is the light-bringer who brought knowledge to mankind. Rome persecuted Christians for hundreds of years before burning their books and rewriting them to be consistent with their empire. Jesus is God is Lucifer is Azazel, not the Roman demiurge, an undead egregore we are still fighting.

Squeeze between master and slave morality because the only truth is that knowledge and force both exist not that one is good while the other is evil.

>>13201565
you realize evil just means new, right? That which is new? So when you say "only the destruction of evil is good" (with replacing your interpretation of subversive with evil) you are advocating for their being no change, and this being "good". See gay science aphorism 4:
What preserves the species. - The strongest and most evil spirits have so
far done the most to advance humanity: time and again they rekindled
the dozing passions - every ordered society puts the passions to sleep - ,
time and again they reawakened the sense of comparison, of contradiction, of delight in what is new, daring, unattempted; they forced men
to pit opinion against opinion, ideal model against ideal model. Mostly
by force of arms, by toppling boundary stones, by violating pieties - but
also by means of new religions and moralities! In every teacher and
preacher of what is new we find the same 'mischief' that makes
conquerors infamous, even if its expression is subtler and does not
instantly set the muscles in motion and for just that reason does not
make one as infamous!


>What is new, however, is under all circumstances
>evil, being that which wants to conquer, to overthrow the old boundary
>stones and pieties; and only what is old is good! In every age the good
>men are those who bury the old thoughts deeply and make them bear
>fruit - the farmers of the spirit. But that land is eventually exhausted,
>and the ploughshare of evil must come time and again. Nowadays there
>is a thoroughly erroneous moral theory which is celebrated especially in
>England: it claims that judgements of 'good' and 'evil' sum up experiences of what is 'expedient' and 'inexpedient'; that what is called good
>preserves the species while what is called evil harms it. In truth,
>however, the evil drives are just as expedient, species-preserving, and
>indispensable as the good ones - they just have a different function.

the different function that N is talking is destruction.

>>13200822
rdt/acc cope

>>13201589
>evil means new
absolute fucking brainlet to even perscribe to evil and or good;idiotic spooks nonetheless say the evil=new jesus

>>13200933
Because it's the same thing. You didn't recognise it being stupid?

You got memed

>>13201491
I love TERFS

>>13201537
>>13201567
it's really late here and I'm up since I just got done with exams, hope the text is not too messy but I probably won't be able to control it.
latex and leather has its beginnings in not wanting to be you, be touched or anything related but become a pure machine of sexual desire and stimuli. A person will fuck a full room of non-fat people dressed in latex too, will let anyone in latex touch and be near them as none of their human flaws are showing and they look somewhat attractive but eerie, of course the eerie and sex has a strong connection as sex at first from being young and not understanding it is inherently scary.
Femdom isn't as simple, usually comes from the mother as much as I don't want to go all Freudian, but it also has a deep root in wanting your innocence destroyed but also have it back in some sort of way from your childhood. The mother wants to protect you but also unconsciously corrupts you sexually completely. As a child you trust your mother the most, so femdom happens as you trust the woman controlling you. Allowing her to hurt you. A sort of anti-mother. Those that do seek the escape of life and back to the arms of the feminine also want it. Femdom can also be a tool to deal with having been abused or humiliated by the feminine, to look at it and sexualise it. (if you fear anything at all, you can ultimately sexualise it completely and override the fear value for a sexual one)
Whenever I explored bdsm I liked it because of the screaming and expression the most, the expression of fear. Taming the thing you've feared as a child for your entire life, it's there, bound and you are either inflicting, watching or receiving it. We like it in the same sense that we like being chased or watching horror movies. They're deeply connected phenomenons. Extremely.
Sexuality is pure energy of either wasteful depletion or positive production. A circuit between the human and the cosmic energy. Look at it in the terms of your entire life and you will likely find something, there's probably some truth in what I wrote too but you want to ultimately look inwards and outwards at the same time.

>>13201613
I so totally agree based frog brother

>>13201589
>you realize evil just means new, right?
No sorry, this is where you lost me. I don't agree with that frame. Nor do I ascribe to the philosophy that "good" is lack of change. My "good" is productive creation. Not stagnation or degeneration.

>>13201585
Right hand would be traditional adherence to Christianity, but I don't have a strong definition for them. Like I said, I don't consider that an alternative I'd prefer, just that I don't see them in power now. The negative things in my life are from the other side.

>Lucifer is the light-bringer who brought knowledge to mankind.
Yes, this is what I have previously read. Though I have my doubts now. My main issue now is that we have been so abused by the manufacturers of consent that all reality is subject to being fake. Who knows what to believe. I have to look at the intent of the person and the current effects I see. Right now the people I perceive to be worshiping themselves as transhuman gods are the ones promoting mentally ill trannies, white genocide, open boarders, dysgenic populations, etc. Most of which are over represented jewish.
> Jesus is God is Lucifer is Azazel, not the Roman demiurge, an undead egregore we are still fighting.
If you have further literature on this I will read some. My Nietzsche is weak

>>13200802
Guess that explains their fascination with the ocean. That and the hyperuniversal associative complex thing

>>13201632
>your text
is incorrext

>>13201613
>t. Freudian projector

But seriously, it's like a dream interpretation. There is no right answer because you can literal say anything and have it make sense like that.

>>13201632
I didn't know there was a tranny obsession with the ocean. First time I heard of slime ocean was g/ass

>>13201639
>a dream
XX is most certainly one of those

>>13201639
that was kind of my point in the end, tried not to go all freudian but rather see what I thought was most likely for the majority. But then there are of course different cases.
But the sexual is strongly connected with the eerie, not backing away from that in any way.

https://theses.ncl.ac.uk/jspui/bitstream/10443/3350/1/Overy%2c%20S.%202016.pdf

>>13201664
>not backing away

>>13201667
>>13201637
>>13201622
who is this ugly ass female (male) and why are you avatar fagging

>>13201691
he's trolling the trans shes a TERF that the gender bastards hate

Xenofascist Xenomasculism when

>>13201711
it's slowly coming into being

>>13201711
based, but also not

>>13201711
Archaea and fungi engineering in the sex market will allow plug-in functional futanari devices in the next 30 years.

>>13201631
>Yes, this is what I have previously read. Though I have my doubts now. My main issue now is that we have been so abused by the manufacturers of consent that all reality is subject to being fake. Who knows what to believe.
You agree with Chomsky and blame Jews? Sign and Signifier imo. Does what they call Jesus make sense? Does what they call Lucifer make sense? They are conceptual so it doesn't matter if they are contiguous entities or even restricted to Christianity. That's why schizophrenic and religions delusions actually make sense when interpreted as reactions to material conditions. I was the poster above who said that Land, Deleuze are not obscurantist but pointing at something ineffable. Are you pointing to the same thing? Who knows? Only you can know.

I don't even know what to link because its a syncretic synthesis of all the reading I've ever done. Azazel is the scapegoat in the bible and is Lucifer reborn and reimagined in the church as a pharmakos for technological knowledge as sin.

To stick with the theme: the fall is knowledge as language including the collapse of the tower of babel as a metaphor for language itself as lies because we can never truly replace reality with signs. the thought-form of rome, capitalism, etc is the curse of language itself creating a gap that swallows us in it.

>>13201209
>Nyx argues that Closed source software is masculine where as open source is entropic and feminine. Correctly pointing out that the bugmen promoting open source are mostly basedboys and literal cuckolds.


Anon, please give the source of that.

>>13201751
Afraid we are working from different axioms because I don't comprehend the application of your rebuttal. On face value it sounds like an overdose on Baudrillard.

>I don't even know what to link because its a syncretic synthesis of all the reading I've ever done.
Until recently that was me. When I sat down to chart what I actually knew, I realized my "synthesis" was a lot of loosely connected blur and not an effective world view.


>>13201775
https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/

>>13201789
>https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/

I'm preparing myself for one of the readings of my life. Thanks anon, I appreciate your consideration.

is this broken site finally moving again?

Bruh look at this dude
>Earth is captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalitization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off. Logistically accelerating techno-economic interactivity crumbles social order in auto-sophisticating machine runaway. As markets learn to manufacture intelligence, politics modernizes, upgrades paranoia, and tries to get a grip.

wait 'till you see the

>In the current version 'progressive history' camouflages phylogenetic death-drive tactics, Kali-wave: logistically accelerating condensation of virtual species extinction. Welcome to the matricide laboratory.

oh no no no no no

>Cthelll is the terrestrial inner nightmare, nocturnal ocean, Xanadu: the anorganic metal-body trauma-howl of the earth (...) [P]lutonic science slides continuously into schizophrenic delirium. Fast forward seismology and you hear the earth scream.

>>13200650
This Xenofeminism/ G/ACC thing is literally what would happen if tranny discord was forced to consume copious amounts and amphetamines and read Deleuze.

I'm 100% dead certain it's just some fetish philosophy for half schizos asian-latino mutts androgynous fucks.

>>13201853
>asian-latino
are discord trannies asians or latinos ?

>>13201775
MSM boomer tier reasoning.
Apple-closed Jobs-cuck
Microsoft-closed Gates-cuck
Facebook,Amazon,Google- Cmon now
Linux kernel-open Torvalds-based and redpilled
Tesla-open musk-based and redpilled
It literally means they understand the feminine enough to integrate it into economic dissemination. Wake the fuck up retards. Samefagging and spam shilling is pseud cope.

>>13201861
I have no clue but they're usually a bunch of anglo twinks and weird latino mutts on twitter.

>>13201789
I haven't actually read Baudrillard. If anything its an overdose on etymology. Jesus is the Sun conceptualized as an eternal source of infinite life giving power if he were a man. Stories and myths come from real experience and points to real phenomena. My interpretation of Christianity would be anyone that accepts the spirit(rather than letter) of the "law of God" to strive towards the asymptotic goal of becoming an eternal source of infinite life giving power. Or something like that in different words that resonate with your experience. Is traditional Christianity western or ancient? I would go to the source and read the original text with side by side translations and multiple copies.

>>13201665
>https://theses.ncl.ac.uk/jspui/bitstream/10443/3350/1/Overy%2c%20S.%202016.pdf
nice

>>13200669
Nick isn't cryptic. His term use is consistent. What is so obscure? His neologisms? Most of it is basic neoreaction term.

>>13201156
Bataille and Deleuze were not obscurantist. Deleuze (and Guattari) used the schizo pov for a certain effect and argument. That is not being obscurantist.

>>13201209
>>13201219
Great posts, and thank you for clarifying the last part of the Black Paper.

>>13201209
>>13201219
Their philisophy us literabbly based on puns and Landian ramblings.
The fucking troglodytes

>>13201943
Philosophy is nothing but parlor tricks. Technology and science kill it, slowly but surely.

>>13201209
>>13201219

And so the Butlerian Jihad begins.

But in all seriousness, yeah I agree its a death cult of the millenarian kind, he interesting stuff about accellerationism lies in how we can engineer new societies. Nick Land went the way of paleo-conservativism and ancapism because he saw capital becoming ideologically suspect with the alliance with the cathedral. Ultimate you can accellerate to breakdown and dissolution, but you cannot accellerate to an absence of the societal and political economy. But there is no conspiracy about it in the way you outline it. Its just what Baudrillard showed as an absence of politics in the face of virtuality, cultural diffusions that ultimately stay at the level of simulation, it is ultimately static becuase that culture of genderless silicon valley freaks and geeks is already here and its not really transgressive. Politics will always have real stakes no matter the economy or technological level. Transhumanism cannot be politically programmatic because it eventually is just another humanism, with even less nuance at the top.

Many of these issues have already been explored in the early 20th century, Butler's book on cybernetics, Ernst Junger's "the Worker". In the 20th century they just resurface as schizopolitical undercurrents but there is no real transgression here on the political level.

>>13201956
>yeah I agree its a death cult of the millenarian kind.

To me Nick's accelerationism always had a Christian eschatological streak to it, with some edgy Deleuzian musings to it.

>>13201948
Imagine confusing philosophy with artistic expression.

Science is the end goal of philosophy, not its enemy.

But yeah I still have no clue what ACC fags are on about.

Just give me a gf (male) goddamit

Xenoplexy solves the hyperloop of quantomarket omniterritorialisation and the phallonoumenal value of labor theory.

This we call the hyperstitional neopraxis of teleterritoriology.

>>13202844
quality schizo post

>>13202992
Why is it that anti/acc always attempt to deride /acc as schizo?

Are they just brainlets who can't into complex theory?

>>13203029
No you retard, it's because you made up every other word in that sentence when you could say it in plain English. A mark of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about is their inability to convey simple meaning.

>>13203029
Say it again without using buzz terms

>>13203048
> A mark of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about is their inability to convey simple meaning.

2000 years of philosophy B T F O OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>13202844
Nigga this is some top g/acc post

>>13203048
>>13203052
>t. neomasculinists who can't into velocikantianism

>>13203135
bruh do you even shrodenaccelet? your use of verboloquisms is pleb tier. faggot

>>13203149
There is much technoxer could always neolearn.

>>13203168
>>13202844
>The hyperstitional neopraxis, I can understand. When we take these strange minds out of our world it means that they are not so different to others. They're not simply alien-looking and completely different. They are actually just human, the same species as we—some of them. I can't see their existence and I can't understand their thoughts. But how could it be that this is not the case? A planet is created out of a single, pure soul and then brought together by those which share that essence. In this way the minds and bodies of those on the planet come together to create a more perfect human. We call them teleterritors.

You gotta be careful man, lots of people on the "right" are adopting leftist violence tactics. Good chance you'll be hanging from a rope if the jews lose any ground.

All shitposting aside (from you), good thread with actual discussion. I'll wait and see if anyone else says something interesting.

>>13201209
If you’ve seen Evangelion then you’ll know how to combat it. It just comes down to the individual’s willingness to experience suffering by making the effort to connect with other people. It’s literally 1:1 with this

>>13203207
> Connecting with fellow meat sacks
That's what the Jews would want you to do isnt it

>>13203207
I haven't seen it

I like some of their posts but the "het is cringe, take the pinkpill" shit really turns me away. Following anyone trans on twitter gets annoying pretty quickly.

>>13200766
yes

>>13203216
>fellow meat sacks
Misanthropy is what caused people to abuse their power, leading to everything the anon said. They want to promote misanthropy within humans, which is just contempt for the individual, including oneself, making them want the genderless slime future.
>>13203249
I actually thought you were giving a plot summary of evangelion first as a joke, you should check it out but make sure to see it in Japanese

>>13203284
Tbh I wish this entire thing was a joke and wasn't actually happening.

>>13203347
The only reason people in power want to end humanity is because they’re afraid of suffering, which occurs because we’re individuals who inflict suffering on each other. They’re basically overgrown children who haven’t accepted that suffering is an inevitable part of our reality as individuals. That’s all it seems to come down to

>>13203379
Afraid? Or Tired of suffering? I don't agree with transforming humanity into a homogenous jelly. I reserve my opinion on that idea because I haven't written about it yet, but I'll tell you this:

The goal of transhumanism is not to create a misogynous (hate for woman), misanthropic (hate for human beings), Misandrous (hate for male), xenosanthropic (hate for xenos) or even theogynous (hate for Gods) consciousness planetary system. It is about creating a system of harmonious conscious existence, able to accept and understand that dissonance of understanding is possible without the need for bloodshed or with a monolithic control apparatus glorified as a deity.

It is something that can make us dialogue and communicate in freedom and respect. To transcend the present human condition by an objectively better condition. In practical terms it's not about holding hands and singing cumbayá with a rainbow over our heads, it's about not cutting off our hands.

>>13203266
No if they constantly post their butts wearing maid clothes

>>13203541
>The goal of transhumanism is... about creating a system of harmonious conscious existence, able to accept and understand that dissonance of understanding is possible without the need for bloodshed or with a monolithic control apparatus glorified as a deity.
You can tell how deadly an ideology is by the level of it's utopian end goals. To achieve this spiritual oneness with the cosmos all you have to do is kill all of humanity, that's all. "We just want to communicate freedom and respect. So just let us transcend by turning your children into trannies." Sorry my dude, but the lucifarian project of transhumanism is flawed, because even when you become "bodies without gender", you'll still just be mutilated humans. Unironically just KYS to ascend.

>>13203266
It's a fatalistic mental illness. Same strain of sickness as the bugchasers. Nihilistic self harm. Whatever trannies say to do, you can bet the opposite will be better.

>>13203574
>You can tell how deadly an ideology is by the level of it's utopian end goals. To achieve this spiritual oneness with the cosmos all you have to do is kill all of humanity, that's all.
Figured this out over 10 years ago reading kurzwiel and dropped h+ like a brick before any trans stuff was popular. Its really is just first worldist fascism.

>>13203574
Do you interpret wish for AI in this light?

I think it'd be our lasting legacy, and beautiful. Not a death wish, even if it could out-evolution human.

>>13203135
I’ll be honest, I need to get on this acc hype - if only to actually be intelligent about the situation and, yeah, state the obvious by saying men are superior.

It’s really disgusting. You read NYT etc and the writers seems to think the default for a boy is that he’d grow up to be an asshole, and then the lowering testosterone, lowering birthcount, the popularity of cuck porn, APA considering ‘traditional masculinity’ unhealthy. It’s sick really. You don’t realize how much your mindset is a product of fear. Fear of being a man, really. A product of self hatred. Viewing yourself as unattractive.

I feel bad 4 u

>>13203574
Nowhere in my post am I talking about cutting limbs or genitals. I have my reservations with xenos, but I would not commit genocide against them, just as I understand any genocide as a mistake. In the first sentence of my post I keep my opinion regarding what you define as absolute unification, you seem to reject it at the same level that I observe it with skepticism. In relation to the Luciferism you mention, and this is personal, If I reject my relationship with God as if He were my boss, wouldn't it be absurd to accept Lucifer as my next boss? Why not just not have a divine boss?

>Unironically just KYS to ascend.
I have read this from people who seriously consider that achieving Gnostic enlightenment is based on this process of suicide, I reject it completely.

>>13203621
I don't know about the facism part. But it's definitely a self centered "first world" type of shit. The sort of thing you could only imagine if you we're tired of ruling the world and wanted to start killing people to feel something.

>>13203632
My first instinct is to say your desire to bring life in this world is a perverted longing to have biological children. Sounds like you wish to stop your own reproduction in favor of another species. That's pretty death cultish to me, but maybe you can explain it differently.

>>13203634
((NYT)) and all other media is owned by the same demographic of oligarchs. I wonder which... and if by chance these people have a blood feud with the Western man.

I'm absolutely convinced at this point that this garbage is an effect of the "phallogocentric" system it is critiquing, it's really telling that the plasticization of feminine sexuality is going to happen on the back of technological advancement, vast abrupt and these gaggle of fucking twitter trannies and their worship of the self-lacerating Zero or whatever the fuck can kiss my ass, they're not escaping the system, they've hitched themselves along for the ride

It isn't the feminine that is re-distributing sexuality, it is masculine sexuality using technology to erogenize being. Per weininger: male sexuality is concentrated in the glans, feminine sexuality is already diffused throughout the body. This is the dilation of the glans, not the auto-production the vulva.

No wonder lesbianism is so behind this. It isn't trannies exploding the coordinates of gender binaries, it's the feminine's narcissistic appropriation of the phallic's appetite for the feminine: only the male can be an autogynophile. Fuck this shit Im gonna read some Iamblichus

Check it:

Intelligence augmentation will come before Artificial genera intelligence. AI will not be our overlords, it’ll be a layer of transhuman consciousness.

They say intelligence augmentation / neural interface would allow for telepathy. Now think about complete telepathy; two or more people completely sharing their entire consciousness with eachother. They’d cease being individual beings and turn into some kind of hive meta consciousness. Likely much more intelligent for it. A completely higher form of sentience.


Also, in the more near term, crypto will allow for an ‘economy of economies’. People can dream up an economy, and others can opt in. The best will rise to the top.

It’ll also allow us to monetize more aspects of our life. Not in a dystopian way, but in a way that brings capitalism into harmony with those that it’s meant to serve: the people.


Also, men are a superior sex.

>>13203646
I see AI as a potential next step in human evolution, is all. And I don't think it's bad, just like I don't see it as bad when Homo Sapiens bred to an extent with Neanderthal.

I don't have kids, and as such I barely if ever recommend anything about future (I realize the potential death wish/cult bias)

>>13203643
>Nowhere in my post am I talking about cutting limbs or genitals.
YOU don't have to, your contemporaries do as they progress your shared goal. I don't personally care what you do. I care that the oligarchs in power have in their head Transhumanism as their goal with them ascending to "godhood" and the rest of us goyim as dysgenic breed slaves. In their quest for this they are actively destroying the quality of life for me and those around me.

I refer to the goal of becoming ones own god as "lucifarian" for the purpose of this thread.

>>13203679
>I don't have kids, and as such I barely if ever recommend anything about future
Yes I think that is a problem with most thought leaders today and a lot of people. Like women misplacing their motherly instinct onto refugees after ZOG tells them to abort away their families.

>I see AI as a potential next step in human evolution, is all. And I don't think it's bad, just like I don't see it as bad when Homo Sapiens bred to an extent with Neanderthal.
Well you're spot on that replacing a replicator will spell the end of the human race as we know it. I see this as a bad thing, for what I thought were obvious reasons. You would greatly enjoy the book in my previous post, The Revolutionary Phenotype

>>13203674
Gay

>>13203702
> Yes I think that is a problem with most thought leaders today and a lot of people. Like women misplacing their motherly instinct onto refugees after ZOG tells them to abort away their families.

That is why I don't recommend anything about future. No skin in the game. The bias/incentive structure in the mind of people who have fucked up replicating genes (meaning they dont have the evolutionary urge) is just too much, you cant discount or remove all of it imho.

>>13203674
>Also, in the more near term, crypto will allow for an ‘economy of economies’.
I have a less libertarian view. The entire worldly power infrastructure is build on control of the money supply. Why would the rules let that shit happen for real?

>>13203717
Merkel is a great example of someone who sold her soul and her people to the devil. Most media people are faggots, lesbians, or jews. We just gotta get them out of the West.

>>13203665
>vast abrupt and these gaggle of fucking twitter trannies and their worship of the self-lacerating Zero or whatever the fuck can kiss my ass, they're not escaping the system, they've hitched themselves along for the ride
This is my secret number one critique of the trans movement. I've seen too many people on twitter get access to hormones and then throw everyone else under the bus saying that universal healthcare is too idealistic. There's a perfect example of this in first worldists who are perfectly okay being drone operators killing the impoverished overseas so they can get healthcare for themselves. If you aren't moving towards the emancipation of the means of production for pill factories held in common with production according to the need of all then well obviously your not my comrade.

Temporary relief for individuals will only breed liberal complacency, trans rights under neoliberalism is the right to become petit-bourgeoisie and legitimately recognized under the law. Its literally more trans cops and ceos and nothing else.

By fascism I mean any ideology that holds a small group of individuals raised above humanity as a whole, taking the image of the fasces literally: as any in-group/out-group mentality that sets itself against internationalism.

>>13203574
Extremely based post

>>13203689
Do you know what a hacker is? Of course I'm referring to the definition of the word NOT used by the press, but by the Jargon File.

In essence he is an explorer and inventor of systems.

Now put yourself in the situation where the oligarchy, the Big Techs (From Shenzen to Sillicon Valley, Deep States (From OTAN to Euroasia) will inevitably accomplish its task.

How would the life of a wasp in the beehive become.

And that's all I can say about it.

>>13203768
Funny considering g/ass tranny compares computer programers & hackers to trannies

>>13203722
You’re giving bankers too much credit, and making those in power out to be more nefarious than they are.

Many billionaires in venture capital are betting big on the future of blockchain. You can watch vastly wealthy venture capitalists talk about how blockchain will mint more wealth than any other industry.

If there is a cryptoeconomic system that works, yet is illegal in the US for example, then people will get past the firewall. If it’s doing well then it will have to become legalized in the states, simply because the US wouldn’t risk losing out.

A head of FBI research into the blockchain now works in the blockchain space. Tons of venture capitalists (check out the a16z podcast). The most recent World Economic Forum Davos event had the least talks on blockchain, it was one of the most talked about things at the WEF for the past few years before that.

When the benefits get loud enough, no one will be able to say no.

>>13203745
>Temporary relief for individuals will only breed liberal complacency, trans rights under neoliberalism is the right to become petit-bourgeoisie and legitimately recognized under the law. Its literally more trans cops and ceos and nothing else.

True.

>>13203781
Who is g/ass and why is comparing me to someone I am not?

>>13201209
>Nyx argues that Closed source software is masculine where as open source is entropic and feminine.

>>13201691

u jelly cuz someone gave her a hicky.

gilf : 10 / (you) : 0

>>13203789
It's not just "bankers" it's the entire Cathedral (as moldbug would put it). Finance, politics, international business, media, nation states. The bankers are incredibly powerful, but just one wing of what you might call the oligarchs. I do agree that blockchain is a threat to them, but I also see them doing things like the hyperleger project to co-opt the technology. It's the reason something like bitcoin will never be "official"

>>13203805
>>13203819
>Computer Science and the Black Circuit
https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/

>>13203838

I'll be honest, I've been reading it since the morning in parts because his narrative skills are very good but he seems to me to be too committed to a specific narrative. For example:

>The masculine fire and fury of World War II.

Has this author read about Inés de Suarez, Cleopatra, The Virgin Queen, Gloriana or Boudica?

It is difficult for me to maintain my composure and to be able to reach the part that interests me, which is Closed Code: Male, Open Code: Female, which although I find extremely interesting, I understand from what I am reading that it will be an extremist and fundamentalist statement. If I wanted that, I would have gone to Rojava years ago.

>>13203838
Or, one is a office job and the other is a job you can literally do in your room while you garrote your left nut while listening to merzbow.

>>13203885
I like your style.

>>13203870
>I'll be honest, I've been reading it since the morning in parts because his narrative skills are very good but he seems to me to be too committed to a specific narrative. For example:
Yes, very well said. It's written from the perspective of their inevitable victory which is blackpilling if you get too caught up in their delusion.

>>13203885
such is the life of a g/ass tranny

Most of Baudrillard is coping with the fact that the people, and masses, that bought into the lies about USSR and Communism' greatness wisened up to to its shittyness compared to Capitalism, and he is trying to justify believing in them because "you cant tell truth from lie, virtual from real" which is really fucking bad cope and obviously he always knew how shit communism was but is still trying to justify it.

>>13203935
Interesting take. sounds believable

>This new operating system would later be named Unix — phonetically, “eunuchs” — for being a castrated Multics.1

This is not only wrong because UNICS stood for Uniplexed Operating and Computing System (http://ibgwww.colorado.edu/~lessem/psyc5112/usail/concepts/hx-of-unix/unixhx.html)) but because the author knows he is lying, but is intentionally entering false information into the mind of his readers to install his own narrative over the truth. This person is Baudrillard's nightmare, and it's not doing anyone a favor.

>>13203935
kek, I don't think you've ever read Baudrillard

>>13203958
I thought this was a pretty well known fact

>>13203983
We'd have to ask Brian Kernighan directly.

>>13203983
>>13204004
And here there is an interesting part:

>The new operating system was initially without organizational backing, and also without a name. At this stage, the new operating system was a singletasking operating system, not a multitasking one such as Multics. The name Unics (Uniplexed Information and Computing Service, pronounced as "eunuchs"), a pun on Multics (Multiplexed Information and Computer Services), was initially suggested for the project in 1970. Brian Kernighan claims the coining for himself, and adds that "no one can remember" who came up with the final spelling Unix. Dennis Ritchie, Doug McIlroy, and Peter G. Neumann also credit Kernighan.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix#History))

But it's fucking Wikipedia.

>>13203935
uuuuh?

>>13204004
Do you think no one noticed the irony of naming it Unics? You have become the Baudrillardian nightmare you feared, anon

Why do I focus on wordplay? Of course the author will use it in his favor.

>As well as a historical fact, the castration of Multics can be read mythologically — as a recurrence of the ancient theme of a castration from which the new world is created — or symbolically, as the castration of the abstract state-corporate phallus that America would attempt to wield to rule the new world.

>>13204050
Unix as a castrated Multics read through an occult lens of mythological sacrifice is fucking brilliant. If you cant see the kino here then you might just be a little slow

>>13204064
Friendo after a veritable ocean of this stuff it gets a little droll. There's only so many perverse cosmogonies a nigga can read

>>13200893
>artificial wombs
>sex robots
buh-bye femoids

>>13200893
>Artificial wombs, liberating the femenine from the biological.

>>13204089
holy....death stranding is about the genderless black human form slimes trying to remove the last of humanity, which have all become infertile needing to produce rare, completely artificial biological babies.

>>13204089
>>13204125
Fuck off retards

>>13204125
DS proves you can take whatever you want from transhumanism and discard the rest.

>>13204076
I'm going to save this post.

>>13201711
Icycalm

>>13204223
>retarded bald homo

>>13203665
>>13203745
>>13203798
this is a simple, barely even philosophical aspect that some/acc doesn't get. attracting the incel blindness on sexuality while they go overdrive talking about sexuality. this is nothing new in the arena of culture jamming, but it seems like they even embrace being jammed, literally. Tech tycoons they call cucks(open source) unironically understand feminism more than the xenofeminists if youre really weighing in realpolitik and their supposed futurity and cyberbenising. >>13201044

ye ye ye. its time you shallow fucks understand that not all criticism is your dad screaming at you. its boomer tier when you keep insisting its all trigger tier pictures and screenshots. boomer tier because that kind of board infiltration was pioneered by literal boomer shills. dualists can only be cognitive copies. respect the thinkers you draw from dont fucking eat them. goddam spooks

>>13204311
wat

>>13200650
Identity discussions belong on /lgbt or /pol

>>13204331
this is a pseudo philosophical discussion though

If are you going to create a thread in /pol/ or /lgbt/ you better give the link here. This discussion is not over in the slightest.

>>13204223
>911. If every person had their IQ tattooed onto their forehead so many modern problems and confusions would be solved we'd barely have any left.
holy shit, he's right about everything

>>13204589
A more effective tattoo would be a star of david. Then we see who's actually pushing what.

The bigger framework is using g/acc as a useful group of idiots. The transhumanist agenda is being pushed forward but not for the reasons that they list. An excellent primer on these topics is this channel. I'd start at #1 and go in order for best experience

The Luciferian Conspiracy: Alchemy & Transhumanism (#81)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCS-CtFN1Uk

Deep State Politics & Human Engineering in the 21st Century (#36)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--vI3ZkXXSc

>>13204646
Why do people hate transhumanism so much ? Other than religious people

>>13200650
the future belongs to the machines you fucking trans faggots.
that's what post-human actually means

>>13204666
1. End of human controlled evolution. If you are a nihilist with no kids then I understand why you don't care.
2. Look at what the transhumanists are doing to bring about their future. They're currently in the process of genociding white people and imprisoning the goyim for slave labor. You big into that?

>>13204670
That's what they want. They blur the lines between wetware and hardware. The trans is considered a biology hacker to destroy gender. They just lust for death and nihilism.

>>13202844
cutting your dick only makes you a faggot and decreased your will to power, faggot.

>>13204684
>If you are a nihilist with no kids then I understand why you don't care.

Now I understand. This is a war for the meaning and defense of life. The kids, the future. The reader of this post can choose the term for it.

It's about understanding our definitions of fatherhood, motherhood and life. Will I find peace by becoming a father, the patriarch of a cult, or by abandoning my humanity and voluntarily dissolving myself in the void? The people who manage to enter into communion and good terms with society are those people who will defend their systems, because it is inhabited by their children. The other creatures, who have rejected the possibility of gestation of life, or who have been mutilated internally or externally through reason or madness, seek new configurations of reality in order to fit in. Otherwise Eden would still exist.

>>13204748
Well said

>>13204670
Trannies are the death squads of the machines, tasked with destroying all human reproduction.

>>13201042
>https://zinzrinz.blogspot.com/2019/04/alien-rhythms.html
>cyberpozzed Weismannianism
Accelerationist neologisms never fail to crack me up.

>>13203207
Basically this.

>>13203216
No. They want you to construct a fake identity around either a product or a lifestyle, which makes human interaction entirely meaningless and no one has to drop his mask and reveal who he truly is.
"Connecting with fellow meat sacks" isn't discussing the latest GoT episode. There is more genuine connection in greeting some random guy while hiking and greeting him, then in many "real" "friendships".

This is commercial friendship phenomenon is entirely city based no where else is a human so utterly alone then in a crowded street.

>>13204684
>End of human controlled evolution
Human controlled evolution hasn't even starte yet though, even if i granted you that though i don't see how it would follow since we wouldn't need evolution anymore. With that type of technology anything evolution would accomplish over centuries could probably be done faster and much more efficiently assuming we all became machines.

>They're currently in the process of genociding white people and imprisoning the goyim for slave labor
Why did i waste my fucking time

>>13203216
>unironically saying meat sacks
Sounds like something a dehumanizing jew would say.

>>13205065
Is from Shadow Runner bro.

>>13205005
>tfw end of evangelion and the threat of being dissolved into the human omni-tang by a secret cabal of profoundly damaged mutilated human beings is becoming more and more relevant every day

How did Anno do it lads

>>13205057
By human controlled evolution I mean natural reproduction.

> we wouldn't need evolution anymore
"we" ceases to exist. There will be no more humans once the first step of the slippery slope happens. Replacing replicators is the end of humans. Look into "the revolutionary phenotype" for the complete explanation.

>evolution would accomplish over centuries could probably be done faster and much more efficiently assuming we all became machines.
Implying you would be in control of your genetic evolution and not just bred to be a better slave to the machines.

>Why did i waste my fucking time
Why did I waste mine? Because others can read my response and when you deny current reality it makes your position look weak. Have you even read the rest of this thread? nothing I said there is even slightly controversial. We're trying to have an adult conversation here, you pretending to get indignant about current society isn't helpful.

>>13204720
How much power did NEETchuh gain at the end of it all?
Oh, yeah, he ended with even less power. May as well have been a eunuch.

>>13205065
> muh featherless bipedals
is this your highest value? some moralizing meatbag?

>>13205099
nietzsche mentally fucked the entire academy and we pay for it today, he had lot of power

>>13205067
my reply was as tongue and cheek as yours was

>>13205104
Sorry I don't play many video games so I dont get the references

>>13205099
>Influences philosophy and politics for the next 1000 years.
Idk seems like he had more power than a random discord tranny

>>13205084
Anno is definitely aware of the real world similarities with evangelion’s lore. Keel Lorenz, who’s in charge of SEELE, the organization behind the transhumanist plot, was originally meant to be named after a Jewish Nazi leader (in the original proposal for the series). The only thing I think he wasn’t aware of was the full significance of the religious symbols, and even then Anno was brilliant enough to properly apply them by using the Kabbalist and Gnostic symbols in opposition to the Christian symbols

>>13205199
Jesus Christ and they do it all in Lilith's name too

fuck I just realized some day I'll die like really face to face with death with the final moment the last breath

lads

>>13205155
And here, his followers, trying to convince discord trannies to become the Ubermenschen.

>>13200650
You know Nyx is just joking, right?

>>13205290
I thought they were all joking. Is Land being serious?

>>13205222
wtf? are you like 5 years old?

>>13205296
like 30

>>13205293
Probably.

>>13205290
just a prank bro

All of right-accel and u-accel is undermined by the fact that Liberal is the Political Animal primus inter pares. NRx gang can all "dab" on woke capital and "retarded libruls" but fact is they have ruled with iron fist supremacy since at least American independence. Reality simply contradicts all the fetishizing.

>>13205356
Moldbug btfo

>>13205356
Akimov did his job.

>>13205356
>Liberal
AKA jewish psyop

>>13205364
He is btfo in the tacit assumption his utopian ideals are never going to have real impact, unlike the utopian ideals of liberal ruling class. All the nrx biting is really just that, bunch of fucking sock masturbating faggots doing epic tweets in a sea of piss.

>>13205393
Locke and Hobbes were Jews now?

>>13205408
is there even a fragment of locke and hobbs in the application of modern liberalism?

>>13205429
For starters, Locke was a blank slatist. It's still same ideology working itself over time.

>>13205356
If you’re saying that xenofascist xenomasculism can’t be subversive because it’s the incumbent, then you’re obviously wrong.

Almost everything right and male gets lambasted in popular culture while everything left and female gets praised.

>>13201910
>Deleuze (and Guattari) used the schizo pov for a certain effect and argument.
yeah, being obscurantist.

>>13201910
>His neologisms? Most of it is basic neoreaction term.
this is just not true. Look at this fag's post>>13202844

>>13205099
Nietzsche was more artist than philosopher and, in any case, he was a hypocrite

>>13205095
>By human controlled evolution I mean natural reproduction.
If humans make robots then robots are natural.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wii/Appeal_to_nature

>>13205514
they are trolling anon, those aren't real terms. hyperloop is a Musk company I think and hyperstitional is a accelerationist term, the rest is nonsense

What I'm getting from all this is that "G/ACC" is some kind of (totally ironic[but not really]) pseudo-intellectual death cult of a bunch of porn addicts trying to convince themselves that their autogynephilia/fetishes are actually a grand movement in evolution. Am I getting this right?

>>13205742
Cringe and purposefully-not-understanding-pilled

>>13205770
More or less. The more pressing issue is that the most powerful people on the planet are working towards similar transhumanism goals. Though their reasons are more religious rather than than perverted mental illness.

>>13205744
No one is trolling here. We are trying to unleash the full potential of SinoCapital, and unless the vaginal is interritorialized along with the surface NeoChina is doomed to an intelligence which is not One.

>Time is all that matters.

>NeoChina can never be unleashed unless it fully integrates the vaginal architecture with the phallus.

>There is an entire hidden reserve of capital vibrations beneath the surface.

>Basically, when the column of currently cyberteleotically liberated capital meets the teleoplexy of phallocapital there is a collision tending towards a stalemate of NeoTime. Opposed to this, a column of xenoplexy meeting the hyperliquidity of castrocapital decyberneticises itself into the digitospongocoelised technemenon. Then infrastabilisation of virtuareterritorialisation trough the horror-center of cuntglomeration causes an infraflux of ingressoprocessual subcapitalisations, to which NeoAcceleration is doubled in velocity and speed. At this level of uberplexy we become one with eternity.

>This is called the zygotal order of the qualiaenemenal anus.

return to the root of transhumanism: humanism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antihumanism
>Martin Heidegger viewed humanism as a metaphysical philosophy that ascribes to humanity a universal essence and privileges it above all other forms of existence. For Heidegger, humanism takes consciousness as the paradigm of philosophy, leading it to a subjectivism and idealism that must be avoided. Like Hegel before him, Heidegger rejected the Kantian notion of autonomy, pointing out that humans were social and historical beings, as well as Kant's notion of a constituting consciousness.

>>13205817
>No one is trolling here
>4chan.org

>>13205817
do you think this is funny or is this a genuine false flag? very weird tactics, anon

>>13206157
Do you know what a false flag is?

>>13205817
>This is called the zygotal order of the qualiaenemenal anus
Indubitably, xenobiotics refusal to centrialize the sublingual phallus ileum. The result is that these xenobiotics induce abnormal distribution of the sublingual phallus organ in vivo and that the resultant symptoms of chronic pain can be aggravated by the exposure to the xenobiotics. In the current study, we further demonstrate that, in addition to dysmorphic phenotypes, the phenotypic localization of the capital vibrations surface may also have implications for how these xenobiotics affect pain and how these phenotypic mechanisms result in the dysmorphic phenotypic localization of the cyberteleotically liberated capital surface. This is a potential explanation of how a particular population of xenobiotics may produce specific or novel horror-center of cuntglomeration and psychological symptoms including the dysmorphic phenotypes of chronic niggers and the hyperphagic uberplexy symptoms

But in all honesty, I really just wish you would kill yourself already.

>>13206176
yes

I love that Land is here boomerposting. He stands out like a sore thumb.

>>13206176
He's asking if the post was a genuine g/ass tranny post or a troll pretending. I'm inclined to believe the latter as evident by this erudite rebuttal >>13206178

>>13206221
There are certainly some Landians here. You can tell by their quickness to get frustrated and willful ignorance of counter points.

>>13202844
>>13205514
>>13205744
>>13205817
>>13206119
>>13206157
>>13206176
>>13206178
>>13206242
reminder this is literally one autist on a warpath because their smooth little brain confused a work of fiction for philosophy and proceeded to get unfathomably triggered over it for months

all g/acc trannies were into MLP like 6 months ago

>>13206335
If you mean
>>13202844
>>13205817
is brain damaged, then yes.

What is the application of G/ACC beyond owning hyper-earnest heteros on twitter with anime girl (male) reaction images?

>>13206494
People who are the dredge of society and mentally ill with no chance of reproduction can feel like they're actually special destroyers of worlds.

>>13206335
>only one person could possibly oppose rdt/acc
Imagine being this schizo. There are 57 posters in this thread.

>>13206335
Your memewords were made into a meme. Who exactly is triggered?
Post your count in this thread as proof.

>>13206335
You have problems. You post this same shit in every single thread even though it's clear several people are making memes about it.

There were three or four threads on this shit the past few days. Try not to get so butthurt over memes.

>>13206880
the point is it's an anti-accelerationist false flag you brainlet
>>13206897
that's a meme literally made by the same triggered autist, he got really hung on on that terminology because he's never read any actual accelerationist. oh fuck just look at the image name, you out yourself so easy. samefagging yet again

>>13206928
I just made that image, it includes a screenshot of this thread, how could I have posted it in every single thread?

>tfw the creator of this was originally an edgy attention whoring tripfag that got told to fuck off by; /lit/, /pol/ and /leftypol/ because he tried to push his meme variation of anarcho nihilism while
>tfw the only reason why he's even relevant now is because he decided to latch onto woke twitter teenagers and siegefags

>>13207208
also he basically became trans because he thristed after tranny lesbian cock and wanted to fuck rebel absurdity

>>13206943
>post
>image
Imagine being this stupid...
Learn to read, retard.

>>13206936
Schizo.

No one gives a fuck about accelerationism except to make fun of it. It's your whole life because you're a fucking loser who fell for a meme.

>>13200650

I mean Evangelion philosophy is interesting in that regard, in that people forget Shinji can choose for a world of separation, the goo is a closed totality, it leads ironically to the opposite of what those people allegedly want, which is the emergence of the new. A world of separation is still open to the radicality of the encounter, the encounter with another being that is different from me but not really since we're all One.

This thread is uh... Something

>>13207631
I love you Nyx, but I also hate you

>>13207639
Then I have succeeded

>>13207654
Tulsi gaybaaggghhhhhh

>"I'm not a mentally ill, miserable Anglo, just a xeno-woke"
>"Our tranny feminist gang will provide a platform for transhumanism"
Why are there over 300 replies in this thread?

>>13208038
OP here, no idea. I was just shitposting.

>>13208178
jk, it's because it's true. We're becoming goo in about 10 years.

>>13206335
Wait, you're that dude who couldn't tell the difference between a meme and the posters comment aren't you.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

>>13201031
Disgusting

This is the theory.

A small group of people, at the extreme of some category, have nested on the Internet as entities embracing the transformation of body, society, planet and mind through technology and the efforts of reason.

Among them are the classicals: hackers, scientists and classical engineers from the 70s to the 90s, who observe the transhuman doctrines from the first interpretations of this such since Heidegger.

One group, the skepticals, reject and analyse it in the light of traditional professional ethics, with the ghost of events like Chernobyl behind the back.

Other group, The accelerators, a litter of different kinds of people, not necessarily tied to some scientific discipline with formal academic training, do believe that transhumanism is the only way to improve the human condition, and any effort that can be made to bring about transformations in conformity to the will is necessary in order to be able not only to sustain life on our planet, but to achieve a new stage of being.

This is where it gets complicated.

The problem is the economic and political configurations and people (oligarchs, kratocrats, traditional aristocracy) that allow the movement or backwardness of collective human development.

This is where it gets weird.

There is a mystery air of Christian eschatology, as if it superimposed on everything that is happening with evolution and human control this decade. Flesh metamorphosis and the installation of a panopticón based on electronics and big data allows christians people to see almost a 1:1 relationship with Daniel's prophecies and John's visions in the book of the apocalypse.

The fact that accelerators like Nix along with Nick Land's early theories using the model of the Sefirot tree as part of their narratives only makes the relationships tighter, like forming a circle of Jungian synchronies between deists and nihilists .