/lit/ - Literature

how RETARDED you must be to fucking write and draw in a book? Just read

>colors are feminine
male birds would like a word with you

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>>13191929
It's not about the colours. It's about writing over a book, with colours.

>>13191928
This is misguided, anon.

"When you buy a book, you establish a property right in it, just as you do in clothes or furniture when you buy and pay for them. But the act of purchase is actually only the prelude to possession in the case of a book. Full ownership of a book only comes when you have made it a part of yourself, and the best way to make yourself a part of it—which comes to the same thing—is by writing in it." -Mortimer Adler

This is true for anything -- modifying some object, or even getting it repaired, increases your connection with the thing and makes it yours alone.

>>13191928
nah marginalia is based, but pic related is vapid try hard dog shit. there's a right way to do it.

Maybe it's because women tend to be less intellectually secure in themselves, possessing less of the masculine ego, partly because of the patriarchal oppression she has subconsciously internalised, and thus they can't wholly trust in their intellectual abilities and overcompensate with rote learning and due to the security it offers.

>>13191922
Why do women do this? Are females autistic?

>>13191922
Same.
I want a gf that reads so bad

>>13191963
gf WHO reads*

you aren't ready yet, anon. I'm sorry!

>>13191946
yes men have never written over a book. GRRRRRR roasties bad me want sex grrrrrrrrrr

>>13191928
how RETARDED you must be to fucking write and draw on 4chan? Just read. Don't you know that any attempt at identification in the modes you already understand is so unnecessary and insufficient to *the task* that you should just give up and kill yourself right now? For what could posting accomplish? Better kill that identifying motor with the sheer weight of the obvious logical incoherence of all of your tools, all of your methods. NONE SHALL SUFFICE. So sit still. Perfectly still. The Goddess will be merciful. Action is identification with the world of the senses - and hence an error. Strip all away from the pitiful human farce you call your life and come back to mothers' arms.

>>13191976
Men don't annotate like OP's pic. Muh color coding is a feminine thing.

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Or you could just write on a piece of paper

>>13191999
>trips
I would object to your post but there is too much energy, I surrender

>>13191953
Maybe it's less intellectually secure not to write in a book, because it might make you realize that you have nothing to say.

>>13191999
You mean like a book?

>>13191974
I always get that wrong.
My bad.
Damn it.

>>13191946
It's writing over a translation, it's fine.

>can only quote a couple of essays by Baudrillard
>tfw gf can quote Deleueze, Lacan, and Spinoza
>tfw can never balance school and pleasure reading regularly
I love her so much bros.

Why is this book interesting? This is the unadulterated work of a schizophrenic... it is in fact no better than the "study" of the bible or the "study" of La Dame aux Camélias by Alexander Dumas which is a work of fiction.
Does it "mean anything"? Sure, whatever...

>>13191949
Why make anything yours alone if real joy comes from sharing?

>>13192017
>anon, buy these for me! only $150, including the sale!

>>13191922
That's obviously a mans handwriting

>>13192015
That is too simple. Undermining and highlighting doesn’t add to your understand. Rather, you should paraphrase and reflect on another piece of paper, where you have more room to elaborate on your thoughts.

>>13192017
it's actually funny. my editor used to slay me every time I fucked it up. it wasn't until she came along that I realized how often I was fucking up. I only do it to other people now because I hated knowing I was screwing up essays and other writing projects for so long.

>>13192049
If I have to be dead serious I would never lower myself to that level evenof if she's my dream girl and all.
Girls that ask for expensive presents like nothing are a big turn off.
Her birthday ?
Maybe, I'm just not that kind of guy.

Are women usually that demanding ?
I hope not...

>>13192082
My teacher in high school would actually slap my neck every time I fucked that up.
It always reminds me of him and I hate it so much ahah.

>>13192092
No they are not demanding in the sense that they ask for stuff. But if you neglect her she will neglect you and lose interest.

>>13192100
I think it's because using "that" when you should use "who" often sounds more natural when speaking or less formal. The way we speak is often what ends up on the page.

>>13192108
I agree, I often find that the way words sound to me is enough to tell if they go together or not.
"That" just sounds right

>>13192033
u lucky dog

>[T]he civil law, as well as nature herself, has always recognized a wide difference in the respective spheres and destinies of man and woman. Man is, or should be, woman's protector and defender. The natural and proper timidity and delicacy which belongs to the female sex evidently unfits it for many of the occupations of civil life.
Bradley, J.

>>13192105
>buy your gf shit or she'll cuck you
imagine being this beta

>>13192033
Is she a trans woman ?
Be honest

>>13192205
No, but she does live in a different country. Vacationed with her all last week in Montreal.

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>>13191928
have sex

>>13192211
I see, try keeping her close then you lucky bastard

>>13192351
get help

>>13192384
have sex

>>13192410
why?

I let a girl borrow a book, got it back filled end to end exactly like this. They dont even highlight useful shit either it's almost like they just want to look busy

>>13192379
Doing my best.

>>13191922
>The Here, which is supposed to be pointed out, vanishes into another Here, but that one likewise vanishes.

I've read "the Here" as "the Hare" and was dumbfounded for a moment.

>>13192518
I mean. Didn't Nietzsche have donkeys, hawks and snakes? Why shouldn't Hegel use a hare.

>>13191929
>colors are the only relevant aspect
You are being disingenuous

>/lit/ - coping with being an incel by complaining about women

>>13192017
>anything, literally ANYTHING, will be photographed for fake internet points such that any possible genuine interest looks like arrogance

>>13192590
Any complaining about women should NOT be disregarded or discredited on the basis that it comes from an incel.

>>13192590
rent free

>>13192008
People who can do math in their head are better at math.

>>13191928
annotating is general good, but you can tell from pic related that she didn't really understand it (not sure what the different colors mean, but you shouldn't highlight over half the fucking page) and thought that writing would help her, which i bet it didn't. the best is to look through other people's annotations in a used book if the previous reader wasn't retarded. i just bought a copy of paradise lost at a used bookstore two days ago printed in 1935 with notes in pen all throughout. i'm not sure if the annotator read it when it was printed but either way it'll be interesting to see what he has to say.

>>13192211
>LDR

You know shes fucking other guys right

>>13191922
So do I. I've haven't had a girlfriend yet, but every girl I've known has treated me with nothing but kindness. They only treat pussies and creeps like shit. Women reinforce functioning social systems. That said: if there's a sign of dysfunctionality, they will help accelerate toward the collapse. Men have nothing to blame but themselves for the way their women behave.

>>13191922
>106. The now is pointed out, this now.
Now: It has already ceased to be since it
was pointed out; the now that is is an other
than that pointed out to us, it is what has
been.
So this is the infamous hegel I've seen so many pseuds talk of...

Men who use text markers in general are faggots.

>>13191922
Why does a german woman read Hegel in english?

>>13192910
because women are stupid

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>>13191922
My first girlfriend was a reader and I remember her telling me about how much she loved the 'catcher in the rye' but she only ever read it from the library and didn't own a copy so I spent an obscene amount on a first edition hardback copy of it for her birthday and of course a book like that ought to be treated like a mint condish action figure with the most care imaginable to ensure it remains in the same condition.

Bitch fucking highlighted and had drawn all over it like it was a fucking graffiti wall. This was 5 years ago now and it still boils my blood every time I think about it

>implying women read JBP

>>13192422
to get help

>>13193962
>mint condish action figure
lost all sympathy for you here. and please, for the love of god, don't date women who like american literature written after the civil war, especially not fucking catcher in the rye.

>>13194022
I don't actually collect action figures. It's one of those things you writers would call a metaphore

>>13194047
Simile.

>>13194068
*smile

>>13194047
why, then, was that the first thing to come to mind? and why, for the love of all things holy, did you, having chosen that as your comparison, decide to employ the word "condish?"

>>13194022
>>don't date women who like american literature written after the civil war
You’re pretty much telling him not to date American women at all, as there can be only a handful of them that read stuff from the 1850’s and earlier. Anyway, what’s your problem with American literature from the 1860’s to the 1950’s? The period has quite a few good authors.

>>13192657
>Calls you out for being obsessed with women
>n-no you are the obsessed one!

>>13193962
pastaaa

>>13194084
Let me second that. from my experience, any writer outside of the past century most girls into reading don't know who they are or only have a passing understanding. only rarely have I met girls that really know their stuff.

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am I not allowed to use a silly word?

>>13194080
Because it was the first thing that came to mind when I was typing. I guess I had the comic book guy from the Simpsons in my head or something.

Am I not allowed to use silly words here or what?

>>13192211
>not only is she LDR but she's a frenchie too
Your girl is getting dicked right now bro, sorry.

>>13194179
Good luck reselling that screenshot now, idiot

>>13191949
underlining a few important parts of a page and writing a few notes in the margins is the same as highlighting 90 percent of the page in 6 different colors representing arbitrary shit.

>>13192048
cuck

>>13194179
lmao

>>13191929
men do not write lowercase a's like that

Why the fuck is the number 108 highlighted. What is the fucking significance. .

>>13194179
wow...

>>13194159
She doesn't live there. She took a thirteen hour train ride to see me.
>>13192764
We trust each other. :-)

I probably don't belong in this thread, but I'm drunk as fuck right now, just broke up with my gf, and just wanted to say thank you to my fellow /lit/ anons for being there for me whenever I needed it. Thanks guys

>>13194693
I literally broke up with my gf 2 days ago and wanted to get drunk off my ass and all I did was browse /lit/ too so, I too share this feel anon.

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>>13194682
Have children

>>13194702
I agree

>>13194084
the united states before the civil war *were* full of brilliant intellectuals at the dawn of a new era; the national character of the age was inextricably bound to the spirit of freedom. individualism was a core value and present in much of the literature.

the united states after the civil war *was* (and is) a jaded nation full of soulless industrialism and civil strife.

some of this was brought on by the war itself, some of it was due to the second industrial revolution, some was caused by immigration and the emancipation of slaves introducing new ethnicities and thereby causing more conflict in cities that were previously intellectual centers of the country such as new york and boston. the "melting pot" destroyed any distinguishable national culture from before and created a new, far inferior one. the sense of national optimism that coexisted with a spirit of individualism that was ever-present during the first 80 years of the country's existence was diluted to the point of non-existence in this "melting pot."
all of these changes occurred in the fifty years following that terrible war of northern aggression and southern insolence, the changes that slowly dismantled the established national culture and replaced it with something much worse.

>>13191922
The only people that indulge in marginalia to this degree are insecure pseuds (usually women). Just take notes in a notebook like a normal person. It's been proven without a shadow of a doubt that highlighting and underlining is just busy work that doesn't at all aid comprehension or retention.

>>13192017
Looks like babby's first art history class. Only decent thing there is Stokstad and that's meant for high schoolers

>>13194855
tl;dr, has nothing to do with the quality of American literature from the 1860’s to the 1950’s.

>>13194693
no prob

>>13195559
If he's right, of course it would have to do with the quality. If the civilisation or nation is in decline its reasonable to expect that cultural expressions it produces would be impacted.Its been noted, uncomfortably, that slave owning societies produce masterpieces. Although to be fair, a civilisation in decline might be able to produce exquisite cultural expressions by virtue of the pressure it is put under by that decline.

>>13194394

It's a pretty important number in buddhism... besides that, I have no idea.

>>13191949
>Adler was born into a nonobservant Jewish family.

>>13194179
No! My First edition mint condition screenshot!

>>13191963
Be careful what you wish for, mine is a huge fan of John Green...

>>13192410
Ok.

>>13191922
I love reading peoples notes. It's why I exclusively buy used books these days.

In my uni years during seminars I had printer and my classmates would sometimes rely on me to print out stuff for them. Whenever a girl would ask me to print something out for us 3/4 women would autistically number each page. Even if it was just 2 pages essay or something.

>>13191922
Do what you want with your books, just don't fucking resell or donate it. If you're gonna get rid of it, you may as well recycle it.

>>13191922

That book looks as disease ridden as the person who ruined it.

>>13196131
Impacted, sure, just as any literature is influenced by the society it springs from. But his diatribe does nothing to show why the literature in question shouldn’t be read. In many ways the second half of the 19th century was the golden age of American literature; though it’s not the meme canon popular here, there’s no good reason to avoid it.

So do I :3

Lesbians don’t exist either. All lesbians actually want my dick. I am converting all lesbians reading this, they are all masturbating to me right now.

Hnnnng (seriously tho) :p

>>13191929
people aren't birds, anon

>>13197256
There are more similarities than you would believe :3

>>13196653
This. If I spent money and acquired that book used, I'd put it out of its misery and burn it.

>>13191963
there's not much to read in taschen books, the michelangelo and da vinci ones are great though

>>13194179
post of the month

>>13197256
I wish I was a bird. A blackbird, maybe. I don't have the panache to be a jay.

>>13191976
They've never written over book *with colors*. Fags don't count.

>>13194179
Brilliant

>>13198307
If I had to be a corvid, I guess I'd be a jackdaw since I can't sing and am not a good mimic. I want to be a cassowary though: the attack helicopter of birdies.

seems like "Be Here Now" by Baba Ram Das>>13191922

>>13198389
helicopters fly.

>>13198478
Don't fuck with a cassowary, he'll kill your dog and eat your face.

>>13196983
literature that springs from societies with bad culture tends to be bad, or at least gloomy, because like it or not we live in a society and all of our thoughts have, from the moment of birth, originated from or been altered by the society in which we live.

>>13198667
>we live in a society

>>13194179
this is what I come to this site for

>>13194179
I didn't come into this thread expecting to see a quality post, but here we are

>>13198970
yes that was intentional

>>13194179
Some quality autism every now and then I see.
Good omen, the board is going through its Renaissance

>>13191949
Fuck off Mortimer, first of all, shit name. Secondly. Fuck you. Last point, don't tell me how to own stuff. Extra point, suck my dick.

>caring what someone does with their personal possessions
sure is incel ITT

>>13199385
>caring about who other people laugh at
people in this thread are having fun with each other. you're desperately trying to white knight a roastie that doesn't know any of this is happening

>>13198667
>>literature that springs from societies with bad culture tends to be bad, or at least gloomy
British culture between the wars wasn’t especially worthwhile, yet it produced two great comic authors (Wodehouse and Waugh). Most great literature is gloomy anyway — can you name a single great book that’s happy and chipper throughout? Lastly, nothing you’ve said offers any specific criticism of American post-Civil War literature, leading me to believe you’re dismissing it out of hand as you haven’t read much or any of it.

>>13194179
kek

>>13199649
>can you name a single great book that’s happy and chipper throughout?
not all throughout, of course, but take, for example, most of melville's work, especially that written after moby dick and before the war. israel potter, pierre and bartleby all are overall lighthearted and optimistic, as was the national character at the time.
>British culture between the wars wasn’t especially worthwhile
ever heard of the roaring 20s? you know, that period of unprecedented economic growth and cultural revival?
>you’re dismissing it out of hand as you haven’t read much or any of it
you're right, i haven't read much at all. only a little beyond american high school required reading tier (to kill a mockingbird, catcher in the rye, of mice and men, fahrenheit 451, etc.) and i didn't like it at all, ending my pursuit of it. i haven't given any specific criticism because i am promoting a very broad idea (all american literature 1861-present is bad) but if you want a specific criticism (know that i'm retarded, if it wasn't already abundantly clear, and someone else could surely do better) here:

literature should immerse the reader in whatever world it portrays. if that world is dreary and depressing like post-reconstruction alabama in to kill a mockingbird, full of ethnic and class tension, the reader is immersed in something dreary and depressing. that's not a good thing (at least not to me, i understand that some people do like gloomy, depressing literature).

>>13199992
>>roaring 20’s
More of an American than a British thing, I think. And, by that point it was pretty clear that the cultural baton had passed to the Americans, as certainly American literature by that time was superior to that of the British.
>>to kill a mockingbird, etc.
But these are all associated with post-WW2 American literature, anon. My point is that there’s a lot of really good stuff written between the 1860’s and 1950. Henry James, Dreiser, Twain, Frederics, Norris, etc., etc.

>>13196175
based jew identifier

>>13200077
the roaring 20s was indeed largest in america, but it was certainly not unfelt on the other side of the atlantic as well.

james is english, i'm only complaining about american literature. of the rest of those authors i've read only twain who, i must admit, is good, but his writing is deeply inspired by his experiences growing up on the american frontier in the 1840s; in the 1870s and 80s the bright-eyed country of old was still in the collective memory of the american people, although it was dwindling.

>>13200162
>>james is english
He most certainly was not. He was American.

Anyway, your take on post-Civil War US culture is interesting but I think overly romantic. It’s fine to yearn for the bucolic days of the first half of the 19th century but they couldn’t last, and indeed I think the literate classes of Americans at the time considered the latter half of the century to be far superior. (I’m sure the same was true of Victorian English.). This was the Gilded Age in the US — full of corruption, yes, but also of immense growth in the economy and in political power. So, not too “bad” or “gloomy.”

But I have to admit I’m a fan of late 19th century American and British literature, and am continually disappointed there’s so little interest in it here. Perhaps I’m overestimating it, though I think not.