/lit/ - Literature

>>13175677
My diary desu

daily reminder that thomas bernhard, franz kafka, oswald spengler, arthur schopenhauer, friedrich nietzsche, otto weininger, immanuel kant, nikola tesla, blaise pascal, ted kaczynski and many more were volcels and you should embrace it, too.

>>13175719
I don't think Uncle Ted was a volcel. The rest probably were, but Teddy boy had a real disconnect from people. That's not a bad thing btw. It lead him to the truth that others refused to acknowledge

>>13175749
uncle ted's main hypothesis, the power principle or whatever it's called, would need a lot of studies for anything like evidence. I am very sympathetic to the idea that we evolved for an environment radically different than industrial(or even agricultural) civilization, it makes perfect sense logically, but you still need to do studies and try to find psychological evidence.

>>13175757
I don't need anything other than trust, which is what all knowledge rests on. Trust in empirical evidence, or trust in belief. You can do that shit if you'd like.

>>13175769
>Trust in empirical evidence, or trust in belief.
anon pls these are not the same thing, the latter allows you to assert literally anything

>>13175677
What have you done with your growing magical power so far?

>>13175771
Well, unfounded beliefs won't benefit someone so it's their problem if they believe something stupid. But to say each belief needs an empirical database to support it is something I don't believe in

>>13175777
>nikola tesla
Died alone in a grotty hotel room, penniless and unknown until relatively recently when everyone started "loving science" and stuck his name on a car.

>friedrich nietzsche
>He is not someone to emulate, especially about that story where he went to a brothel but was embarrassed being there so that he started playing the piano that was there. Also I'm pretty sure he visited hookers.

>ted kaczynski
I don't think he was.

>>13175787
you got brain damage?

>>13175719
>Nikolai Tesla
Died alone in a grotty hotel room, penniless and unknown until relatively recently when everyone started "loving science" and stuck his name on a car.

>Friedrich Nietzsche
He is not someone to emulate, especially about that story where he went to a brothel but was embarrassed being there so that he started playing the piano that was there. Also I'm pretty sure he visited hookers.

>Ted Kaczynski
I don't think he was.

>>13175789
Possibly, when I'm not at work being angry at people, I spend the vast majority of my time in my room.

>>13175783
They don't seem to have appeared yet.

>>13175719
schoppy fucked hoes and was always strapped

>>13175677
Stop being obsessed with sex. Nobody cares about whether you're getting laid or not. Do something interesting instead.

>>13175793
Why is dying pennyless memed as such a bad thing. At the same time everyone says "You can't take it with you" so why not spend it all and die broke?

>>13175862
Because materialism is the predominant ideology right now

>>13175793
>played piano at a brothel

That's based and pathetic at the same time

>>13175677
I had sex a couple times and kind of regret it, pretty underwhelming.
Volcel master race

>>13175862

everything is memed as all things. there was a bestselling financial book years ago titled Die Broke.

>>13175804
That quote is based, is Gene that great regularly or is that just a fine quote amongst scifi wankery

Tbh sex is overrated so dont feel too bad anon, but it is a sort of biological failure desu. Most of us here are biological failures however, sexlessness just being one of those facets.

It does however make me feel better than others on here that I've had sex and they haven't, so when I'm feeling down i like to lord it over other autists , which really is its main benefit

>>13175862
>At the same time everyone says "You can't take it with you" so why not spend it all and die broke?
The other guy >>13175878 touches on the point, I mean, Edison had something like over 100 million dollars at the time of his death and is revered while Tesla fell into obscurity despite inventing or laying the groundworks for many inventions.

I always wonder what exactly went through Tesla's mind as he spent his last days in his hotel room

>>13175849
It's always people who've had sex, who don't understand it's not actually about sex itself. To be a virgin at my age, you'd have to have failed a bunch of milestones that most people have passed way back when they were still relevant.

Being a virgin IN ITSELF isn't a bad thing, it's all the things that lead up to the point where you are 30 year old virgin.

>>13176134
I know it's not the sex itself. The problem is you're too spooked with what is considered valuable and normal by society at large. Probably you feel a strong need to be accepted.
You need to become more independent in your mind and in your emotions. It might seem like a lonely road, but at the end of the day you're not even that special. People have all kinds of fucked up past and regrets, but they go on.

>>13176215
>You need to become more independent in your mind and in your emotions.
As opposed to what? Besides my parents I'm not leaning on anyone nor am I emotionally attached to anyone.

>People have all kinds of fucked up past and regrets, but they go on.
To what end though? It feels like life has passed me by.

>>13175677
are you really ugly or is it something else?

>>13176411
Possibly. I kept myself to myself to avoid getting beaten up as a kid and it wasn't the nicest place growing up. I've always been wary of other people since school.

>>13176539
are you very set on wizardry? it sounds like you could turn it around within 1 month

>>13176548
What makes norms say shit like this? Is it complete ignorance, or some ingrained just-world bullshit?

>>13176553
oh i see why now

>>13176548
>it sounds like you could turn it around within 1 month
With what? Magic?

>>13175677
Have you heard of "Better Never to Have Been: the Harm of Coming into Existence" by David Barrater anon?

>>13175677
sad thing is love is the most satisfying feeling there is while it lasts and women are pretty nice to be around while it lasts
you're not missing out on much if you made it this far and haven't taken the blackpill tho

time is always the issue

>>13176594
>time is always the issue
What you mean?

>>13176581
The Normie is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a cuck, retard, wageslave, profiteer; it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Normie and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>13175677
651 days until I join you, my brother. I don't understand why even care anymore. For me it stopped mattering years ago. Maybe my brain is simply shielding my fragile ego by coping.

>>13176594
>blackpill
I don't care about your goddamn fruity pills.

>>13176613
That line seems familiar.

>>13175677
28 year old virgin here. Don't feel too bad. At least you haven't willingly sabotaged every single chance you had because you're embarrased by your dick size. The funniest thing is that it's actually only slightly below average for my country, but porn had crushed my self-confidence without me even realizing it. Even though I realize this now, I'm still a volcel because I can't get over it.

>>13176670
>I'm still a volcel
Sounds like rationalization OP.

>>13176687
I'm not OP, but I guess you're right. Denying myself sex because of an issue I can't come to terms with is closer to incel than volcel.

Anon, I am going to give you every positive feeling I am currently feeling. I love you, OP.

>>13176726
Unless that feeling is a penis in a vagina you can fuck right off

>>13176593
No but it sounds interesting. I'll have a look into it.

>>13176726
Somehow, the feelings aren't transferring.

>>13175677
You just need to realize that you only care because you're expected to care. At least that how I cope.

>>13176726
I love you too, OP. I adore you.

Have you tried the usual going to the gym, lowering your standards, going to a whore?

>>13176215
Another wizard here. Its what >>13176401 says. At this point my only lasting personal connections are my parents. Once they die I'll be completely alone. I've failed to establish any worthwhile foundations or build meaningful connections that make up a life. I have an apartment, steady job etc but I still feel like an adolescent who's never accomplished anything.

>>13176744
I am gyming, not really for a goal just something I've started doing just cause I don't know, and I am planning to go to Amsterdam.

>lowering your standards
I don't think there's anything to lower it to, everyone around my age seems to be in a relationship. Ironically it seems like all the good-looking girls are single and the average-to-plain are all in relationships.

I don't really come into contact with many women anyway.

Echoing this guy>>13176796 , what I most regret is not building/having a life and a social circle in my teens and 20s when everything was still new and people had time to do stuff.

>>13176821
I'm slightly different in that I did make friends in college though I was too neurotic to court a girl. Then I graduated in the depth of the recession, had to move back home and basically lost everything I'd gained.

>>13176844
>I'm slightly different in that I did make friends in college though I was too neurotic to court a girl.

Funny thing is, I think uni was the last place I could have turned things around but I didn't cos I was way too wary of people and going home didn't take long and I could do the lectures at home.

The exact point was when I didn't sign up to the anime club during the freshers fair. I think that when geek started becoming mainstream and my interest in it began a massive decline.

Also I realised too late that uni was for networking and now I'm in a dead-end wageslave job with no prospects.

>>13175677
hary poterr

>>13175793
Tesla was a celebrity at his time tho.

>>13176796
You guys need a change of perspective. This worldview is too much materialistic.

>>13175677
It's true when they say you'll be a full wizard. What they don't say is that you'll have to hide manifestations of your power from the others to keep yourself from becoming “that obsessed person”.

>>13176881
shit, are you me?

>>13177015
How so?

>>13176881
You have a simple test as your life model.
> NETWORKING STAGE: CHECK
or
> NETWORKING STAGE: NOT PASSED

Reading books is supposed to provide material for more complex models to your conscience.

>>13177125
Search for something worthy to live. Something that doesn't demand for external factors but only of yourself and the transcendental. An unshakeable and eternal basis. Seek Jesus unironically is my advice.

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>>13175719
bro try reading kafkas wikipedia entry and its like some neckbeard fan is jacking off to how much he relates to him. he talked with women so he doesnt belong n the list

Well, isn't it time for you to read The Death of Ivan Ilyich?

>>13177165
>seek jesus
Pretty sure this is purgatory or hell.

>>13177325
Will do.

What's your problem OP?
Fat? Ugly? Loser? Acne?

>>13176881
why don't you go to Games Workshops or whatever they're called, where they paint the models and play tabletop games
seems like a place where you might ifnd fat uggo chicks willing to surrender sum puss puss

>>13175719
I tried volcel but failed this week. Feels bad. Came within two seconds of getting it in but did better that night at least and got her to come multiple times. Very difficult to go back to volcel now

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>>13176741
Did this happen because you just never leave the house? Did you ever move out of your parents' home?

>>13175677
Just 10 more years to lichdom. If you never create life, you can never die.

>>13178263
> got her to come multiple times
After you realize that … the shame might help you going back.

>>13175677
I want to be Exalted Cyclops.

>>13176401
>As opposed to what?
As opposed to you accepting all normie values uncritically. Such as "I didn't get laid in college, therefore I'm a failure and I must feel bad about it."
You think like a normie, that's why you feel like shit. Stop thinking like a normie. Expand your mind. Read interesting books, go travel, do something interesting. There's more to life than just playing by normie rules.

>>13178342
It was not faked, first time it was after I had spent all my rounds and could go indefinately, after that it was just because I could last a long time but also she was rubbing her clit, pure vaginal orgasm is very rare

>>13175719
>schopenhauer
>volcel
nigger please schopenhauer literally paid prostitutes to have sex with because other women didnt want to be near him. he was however based&redpilled, normies just wouldnt understand

>>13178356
>normie normie normie
It's normalfag you faggot.

You said you understood it's not about sex and yet that's like the only thing you've drawn from it.

>Such as "I didn't get laid in college, therefore I'm a failure and I must feel bad about it."

>>13175719
Kafka wrote reviews for whores in his diary like yelp reviews for a Chinese restaurant

>>13175719
Kafka visited every brothel in Prague, tho

>>13178930
>You said you understood it's not about sex and yet that's like the only thing you've drawn from it.
What? I said you/OP feeling bad is the consequence of adopting normie morality, not the absence of sex itself. I don't know how much more clearly I can spell it out.
You could just as easily be feeling bad about never having had a car or never having learned to swim or whatever the fuck.

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>>13178937
For the ones that visited hookers, what do you think the post-nut clarity must have been like?

>>13178356
>You think like a normie, that's why you feel like shit
based

>>13175793
Absolute based spergery from Nietzsche, as expected.

>>13178962
>I said you/OP feeling bad is the consequence of adopting normie morality
Oh right. I see you're one of those types.

So only two books?

>>13175757
I agree, the power process is the least flushed out of his ideas and I don't entirely agree with it. I think the power process has more to do with controlling your own destiny and being the master of your domain (which was done through the concept of God for thousands of years, but not anymore), rather than conquering nature specifically.

>>13176796
>If you have schizoid personality disorder, it's likely that you:

>Prefer being alone and choose to do activities alone
>Don't want or enjoy close relationships
>Feel little if any desire for sexual relationships
>Feel like you can't experience pleasure
>Have difficulty expressing emotions and reacting appropriately to situations
>May seem humorless, indifferent or emotionally cold to others
>May appear to lack motivation and goals
>Don't react to praise or critical remarks from others
>Schizoid personality disorder usually begins by early adulthood, though some features may be noticeable during childhood. These features may cause you to have trouble functioning well in school, a job, socially or in other areas of life. However, you may do reasonably well in your job if you mostly work alone.

Go see a psychologist

>>13175677
I recently read The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro and it was quite enjoyable. There's also a movie adaptation, but the story is told from the perspective of the main character relating the story to the reader, so some of that is lost in the movie. Despite that it was also quite enjoyable.

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>>13178966
Was Kafka a self-loathing kind of guy? I've only read The Trial.

>>13179217
Kind of, he insisted that all of his papers be burned after he died because he never thought they amounted to anything

>>13178261
If I say why I feel like that anon from another board will come over and berate me for my reason.

>>13179177

Most here aren’t full blown schizoids, just losers unable to make things happen because of some malfunctioning during adolescence

Also, schizoid PD is rarely treatable, as in, treatment rarely results in a change

>>13175677
Stop browsing 4chan.

Go make friends

>>13175677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M

>>13175677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O71fetlkCZo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O71fetlkCZo

>>13175901
>What struck me on the beach and it struck me indeed, so that I staggered as at a blow - was that if the Eternal Principle had rested in that curved thorn I had carried about my neck across so many leagues, and if it now rested in the new thorn (perhaps the same thorn) I had only now put there, then it might rest in anything, and in fact probably did rest in everything, in every thorn on every bush, in every drop of water in the sea. The thorn was a sacred Claw because all thorns were sacred Claws; the sand in my boots was sacred sand because it came from a beach of sacred sand. The cenobites treasured up the relics of the sannyasins because the sannyasins had approached the Pancreator. But everything had approached and even touched the Pancreator, because everything had dropped from his hand. Everything was a relic. All the world was a relic. I drew off my boots, that had traveled with me so far, and threw them into the waves that I might not walk shod on holy ground.

Wolfe is incredibly quotable

>>13179453
kill yourself

>>13175719
Are you fucked? Kafka was sex obsessed he fucked so many hooers, he had a bunch of girlfriends he even had affairs with his girlfriend's friends. Try harder

>>13179512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwIbvehRAMQ

>>13179177
cant really treat personality disorders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuwP1WvOOWU

>>13175719
Yeah life is pretty cruel to men for no reason.

>>13179598
Stop watching porn

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>>13179622
Unironically this. Since I stopped watching porn I have more energy and I'm more confident and assertive. I masturbate using my imagination thinking about women I know, like friends or coworkers, or photos I find when browsing the web, which means I masturbate less. But also I'm much more prone to being angry, which isn't so good. I'm thinking of exercising to counter that.

alternatively, have sex

>>13179649

Should I change my method of picking up girls at gym? I stare at the most attractive girl all throughout my workout session and make sure she knows I am staring. I do this until I am either finished with my workout or they leave, which I then tell myself "good" to make myself feel better. There was this cute girl today and she smiled at me but I instantly looked away out of habit.

>>13179827
You'll do this, take your time. Don't be a creep and don't watch porn. Don't take yourself too seriously. This is a journey. One day you will be ready.

"stop watching porn, improve yourself, just be yourself", all these thing are platitudes for me. Since early childhood I've been a loner, an outcast. No matter what I do, I'm always being inadequate, I feel cursed, like a cockroach. I sincerely don't know how to act with other humans, I'm scared of them.

>>13179943
There are 7.674.575.000 people on planet earth, you can't hate all of them. Stop being a loner, stop the self-pity attitude and be a man. Maybe you've wasted time and life was pain. But that doesn't matter. Not a single bit. What matters is now! Try to think objectively. You don't need a Limitless-Pill to be normal. This is your life and you're doing this for yourself and to yourself. For no one but you. You don't have to prove something. AND STOP WITH THE PORN GOD DAMN!

>>13180052
underage b&

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi74sEwL9xY

>>13180052
>Maybe you've wasted time and life was pain. But that doesn't matter. Not a single bit. What matters is now!

It matters a whole fucking lot, I can't seem to progress in anything nowadays. I'm trying to learn web dev and progressing like treacle. I used to be a smart person dammit and I'm barely halfway through the online-course.

My "friend" who did a meme degree is in some IT/software job earning close to six figures, while I'm tolling away in some dead-end job with retards who aren't above sniffing glue during breaks, he suggested that I become a bus driver low-key hinting that will be my peak.

I was smart at one point, but it's obvious that my brain is completely broken now.

>>13180217
You should do something about it. What more can I say. At least someone has seen that you're not feeling well. But better times are ahead. Even if you lose everything you can have some sort of a happy life.

>>13180344
I genuinely don't know where to go from here. I can barely read books with my shrinking attention span.

I'll be a wizard by the end of the year. Don't really care at this point.

>>13180217
In the same spot pretty much, but I can't cry woe is me, because if I had made an effort maybe things wouldve been better, but the copping mechanisms that were good at the time started being harmful years ago.
I too have many things to learn but at this point am making not even slow progress but no progress at all, that unexplainable feeling thats always there hurts, you're like 'what the fuck is going on'
I'm nearing 21 and I truly fucked up my years that were supposed to build me up, I'm not smart all and top that with the unwillingness to work. the future is blank who the fuck knows whats gonna happen but I still try to find ways to motivate my self to try

>>13180540
>I'm nearing 21
Bitch, you're still just a baby. I'm a month from wizardhood. You can easily change tracks.