/lit/ - Literature

I'm currently reading Neuromancer. A classic! Sadly the translation is shit and it's hard to follow.
>the most bizzarre books
Pic related, idk if there is an english translation. Wilcock is a madman

Anon posted a long ass analysis by some dude, if you feel like extending the monthly reading with 30 or so pages: https://pastebin.com/cPiyiLHD

cursed image and thread.

>>13155713
You are not confirmed litty anon

So I just found out that Scott Lynch married the crackhead version of himself.

>>13155813
BASED AND NEEDLEPILLED

>>13155813
fleshpilled and evil

>>13155700
>What are you reading?
Excession by Iain M. Banks.
So far it's pretty good and focuses much more on the Minds than previous books.

>Post the most bizarre books that you've come across
Man After Man by Dougal Dixon. It's the origin of pic related and one of the freakiest speculative works I've ever looked through.

>>13155700
Bear is fucking out there. God bless.

Finished Strange and Norrell. I liked it a lot.

Almost done reading Fire & Blood by GRRM. I'm enjoying it while feeling it's the worst possible way to spend my time.

After that I'm planning to reread VALIS ahead of going for its "sequels" for the first time.

>>13156260
>I'm enjoying it while feeling it's the worst possible way to spend my time.
On a relevant note, I'm now 500 pages into the first book of The Wheel of Time.

>>13156303
On the bright side, at least it's not Malazan.

>>13156321
>tfw rereading Malazan
kill me

>>13156321
On the even brighter side, it's not Prince of Thorns.

>>13156321
Why the fuck is this slow starts into 1000+ pages thing the standard for fantasy anyways?

Anyone read Jennifer Fallons Wolfblade? How is it?

>>13150573
>>13153294
>>13153855
>Wolfblade
About halfway through. Enjoying it a lot so far; I expected it to be more simplistic, really.
Overarching plot deals with the main kingdom having a shit ruler (a few shit rulers over the years, really), and the shadowy political power struggle (sans struggle, as yet) between the Royalists, who believe that the boss should be boss because law, and the Patriots, who want the incompetent fuck off the throne to save their declining kingdom before it gets conquered by someone. Speaking of, the semi-barbarian J- ah, manipulative money-lovers next door are in a good position at the moment, and they've got a big army.
Our PoVs:
>Slave Tyrion, a dwarf (the midget kind) bed/entertainment/educator slave who was in the service of the wrong master when the guy's assassinated. Attaches himself to Baka Princess and manipulates and guides her in order to avoid being killed by Ambitious Sorceress, who orchestrated the aforementioned bad time. A Royalist by necessity.
>Baka Princess, a naive, uneducated teenager whose brother is the ruler of their nation; unfortunately, he's a literal depraved gay pedophile, and not that smart to boot. He's set her up to be married off to the semi-barbaric neighbouring kingdom's ruler, which would suck for her nation, as their child would inherit if the brother doesn't pump out a kid, which he won't because he's too busy banging and killing slaves. Obvi a Royalist.
>Magic Boy, who's a noob mage in a world where proper magic (instead of weak magical prayers that do very little) is all but dead. Diluted heritage of a genocided near-extinct race that can see the gods and use magic (also, some rare normies have magic abilty, no god sight though). Friend of Nice Guy and in a faintly antagonistic relationship with Ambitious Sorceress. Gets himself involved with the God of Thieves. Must steal seven relics, or give up his soul to the god and strive become the greatest thief in the world. Neutral.
1/3

>>13156347
>>13156345 (great timing btw, don't know if you're the same guy)
>Nice Guy, a 30-something lord who's a fairly nice fella, and is kind of uninteresting, with no real schemes at the beginning. Friends with Magic Boy, has an uneasy, mutual not-quite-like and not-quite-dislike dealio with Ambitious Sorceress. Standard fantasy protagonist bait, though he's ripe for sowing the seeds of cynicism and this ain't that kind of story, bruv. Good Royalist boy.
>Nice Guy's Brother, the younger brother of Nice Guy. Feels a bit overshadowed by his older brother, and ambitious, though fiercely loyal to his brother, kingdom and family. He just wants to be a good boy and be recognised as a cool dude by his family. Presumably Royalist.
>Ambitious Sorceress, a 20-something normie with access to magic, and experience using it. She wants her kingdom to be great, and she'll stop at nothing to get the fuckwit off the throne, purge the corruption in the court and in the "mage" faction, which is full of people with no talent (aside from her and Magic Boy, who she sees as a potential danger) and is a shitshow and actively political, despite it being a supposedly apolitical institution. A few years back she was going to marry Nice Guy (they had a mutual love) but went and married another fella with more political potential for the Royalist/Patriot thing. Unfortunately for her, her hubby is brainless and fat, a bad candidate for ruling if she gets her way, but he's easy to mind-bend. She's cucking him with her personal slave (all nobles have these slaves, usually gelded, meant to be sex trainers, advisors and personal attendants. Hers still has his balls due to circumstance). Is angling herself to be a "friend" to Baka Princess, who she sees as an useful idiot. Based as fuck, wants only good for the nation and will fuck up any threat to her plans, would bang. Patriot.
2/3

>Mage Leader (occasionally a PoV), the old fuck in charge of the mage organisation and advisor to the ruler of the main country. Picked to be the boss by the rest of "mages" guild because he was apolitical and wasn't offensive to anyone, so of course he's basically the puppetmaster of the fuckwit ruler, and despite not giving a shit about factions and being kind of a wimp, he's done an alright job of not blowing up the kingdom... though he's ignorant to the dangers of betrothing Baka Princess to the king next door, and his lack of disciplining the ruler hasn't helped the pedo's decadent ways. Royalist by necessity.
There's other PoVs that are more one-note, but screw 'em.
It's good shit, and I'll almost definitely be reading the sequel books and series (and maybe the prequels, about this Half-Breed guy). More deals and manoeuvring than I expected. The princess is a real qt, though she's kind of a idealistic, romantic ditz before she gets some learning in her. Dwarf boy is best boy, fite me. The plot moves at an unhurried pace - it takes its time on events, but you never want it to rush along. Different characters have different relationship's with different people; for example, to the dwarf, magic bitch is a scary motherfucker who he fears attracting the notice of, an old flame to the nice fella, and a friend/almost-confidant to the princess (I know this sounds basic as fuck, but I've read books where people all see a character the same way with no account for how they know them). The worldbuilding's not overly dense, but you get a good impression of the world; it's sort of old, and most of the magic has been leached out of it thanks to an insane feminist cult who started killing all the mage-race for a few reasons, one of which was because they were naturally charismatic and were unintentionally seducing their men and women.
I highly recommend it; hopefully it's to your tastes.
3/3

>>13156354
>>13156347
>Mage Leader (occasionally a PoV), the old fuck in charge of the mage organisation and advisor to the ruler of the main country. Picked to be the boss by the rest of "mages" guild because he was apolitical and wasn't offensive to anyone, so of course he's basically the puppetmaster of the fuckwit ruler, and despite not giving a shit about factions and being kind of a wimp, he's done an alright job of not blowing up the kingdom... though he's ignorant to the dangers of betrothing Baka Princess to the king next door, and his lack of disciplining the ruler hasn't helped the pedo's decadent ways. Royalist by necessity.
There's other PoVs that are more one-note, but screw 'em.
It's good shit, and I'll almost definitely be reading the sequel books and series (and maybe the prequels, about this Half-Breed guy). More deals and manoeuvring than I expected. The princess is a real qt, though she's kind of a idealistic, romantic ditz before she gets some learning in her. Dwarf boy is best boy, fite me. The plot moves at an unhurried pace - it takes its time on events, but you never want it to rush along. Different characters have different relationship's with different people; for example, to the dwarf, magic bitch is a scary motherfucker who he fears attracting the notice of, an old flame to the nice fella, and a friend/almost-confidant to the princess (I know this sounds basic as fuck, but I've read books where people all see a character the same way with no account for how they know them). The worldbuilding's not overly dense, but you get a good impression of the world; it's sort of old, and most of the magic has been leached out of it thanks to an insane feminist cult who started killing all the mage-race for a few reasons, one of which was because they were naturally charismatic and were unintentionally seducing their men and women.
I highly recommend it; hopefully it's to your tastes.
3/3

>>13156347
Just to clarify, I'm halfway through the first book, not the series as a whole. It could turn to shit in books two or three for all I know.

>>13156347
>>13156354
>>13156369
I am the same guy. Appreciate the response. Going to order the first book, sounds good.

Just picked up the lotr collection, can't wait to immerse myself in this world.

>>13156419
Enjoy, man.
>>13156424
Your first time with any great series is always fun. I bounced off LotR a few times before it stuck; hopefully that doesn't happen with you, but if it does, it's okay, just give it a rest for a while and try again later.

>>13156442
Why do you think the series didn't appeal to you before and what made it click for you? I'm riding off the high of got so in all honesty I just want a new fantasy series to distract myself with.

House On The Borderland is pretty fkn odd. Pig people, house on the rift of another dimension, death of the solar system. Check out William Hope Hodgson.

>>13156479
I found the way the characters spoke to be odd, and it to be rather long-winded
I adjusted, but at the time I was also somewhat more of an autistic retard than I am now

>>13156479
>>13156525
I don't think there was any one thing that made me go "okay, I can get this now"
I just kept smashing my head into it until it gave way
I haven't re-read it, which I know is heresy, but I have no idea if I'd slide right back in or not

>>13156442
>>13156424
lotr is utter shit

>>13156572
I know you're just pretending to be retarded but humor me: why?

>>13156572
Why?

I just remembered how much I enjoyed The Dark Tower by Stephen King (the earlier books especially)

Is there anything you all could recommend reminiscent of it?

What the fuck happened to book 2 of Golden Age of the Solar Clipper by Nathan Lowell?
First book was fantastic, second book he turned into a sex god and literally everyone drooled over him while he played cupid.
A real bizarre twist. First time i ever went from a goodreads 5* to a 1* in a series.

>>13156590
>I like something so that means you must be pretending when you don't like what I like

>>13156591
slow, plodding and boring. dropped the first book quarter way through.

>LotR is boring or/and badly written
Is there a bigger pleb filter? Anything that say "I should just watch movies or play vidya" more? Like what's the point of reading if you don't appreciate the written word?

>>13156716
It is tho

Is the red queen war good?

Also thinking on getting into black company but the multiple books put me off, can someome recommend anything good?

>>13156641
The Complete Chronicles of the Jerusalem Man

>>13156716
The movies were shit too.
You don't even read, yet you are pretending you are better than people who do because you read the cliff notes for lotr and watched the movie.

>>13155700
The Unknown Shore. Mainly it's about a team of people who heard patients off a planet before it becomes a battleground.

I've probably read weirder books, but other than the weird cover, it's pretty alright. Most of the book involves turning patients into limbless torsos for space in the ship.

>>13156804
>Red Queen's War
it's dumb and points but fairly fun, in the slightly grim modern way
>Black Company
As a Black Cumpenny shill, I recommend you try at least the first book (as in, the novel The Black Company). It's short and sweet, with no big time commitment, and it ends in an open-ended way that doesn't bait a sequel, so if it's all you read, you can come away happy.
The first three books end similarly, letting you leave happily.
Anything after that, and it won't give you a neat ending until the very end.
>good standalones
depends on what you want
>light, fun, and campy sci-fi
The High Crusade, by Poul Anderson. Some 14th century Brits under a Duke prepare to go Crusading, but then an alien ship drops in. They surprise the crew, take the ship, and end up flying to one of their planets. It's hilarious seeing aliens getting somewhat BTFO by weapons that ignore all their fancy counter-tech
>serious-ish sci fi
Old Man's War, by John Scalzi. On the Earth of the future, people past 75 can join the military, where they will be taken off world, made viable, and trained to fight the various nasty enemies of humanity. Earth is kept a backwater by the military, who don't want the aliens sussing out our locale. MC buries his wife and joins up, kind of hoping to die (they'd planned to join together). There's sequels, but it works fine alone.
>decent portal fantasy
Enchantment, by Orson Scott Card. Russian-American stumbles into ancient Rus, and saves a princess the Baba Yaga wanted kept in place. It's got a bit of world-crossing, and there's different cultural mores. It's interesting, desu

>>13155700
>third psychedelic orgy of the day
>during the last one your bros turned into women
>drilled em good and had a laugh
>suddenly you're a woman this time
>go with the drug hazed flow
>wake up later and try to kill yourself
what an asshole amirite?

>>13156669
>I have ADHD and get bored without action and explosions, therefore a book is bad
Guess you were not pretending, carry on then.

>>13156976
Thanks senpai.

>>13157321
>I can shit on books, but if you don't like what I like you are a pleb adhd crayon muncher
>like what I like
>I am the embodiment of tastes
kys

When reading a long series, do you tend to read each book back to back, or do you take breaks between entries to read something else?

>>13157470
>I can shit on books, but if you don't like what I like you are a pleb
Nigga what the fuck are you talking about?
What book did I shit on? I am not retarded like you, I understand the difference between "I don't like a book" and "this book is shit!"
You don't have to like Lord of the Rings but calling it utter shit makes you a self-conceited dumb cunt.

I'm currently reading stranger in a strange land. it's pretty good, I mostly only like it when they talk about the Martian society, Smith or when smith interacts with other character. The general and his wife seem a bit interesting
I'm about 160 pages in.
What are you lot reading?

>>13157517
Calling sanderson abercrombie and grrm shit makes you a self-conceited dumb cunt.

>>13157656
They're all shit.

>>13157687
Just like lotr.

>>13157696
>he unironically likes Blanderson, Abercrappie, and GERM

>>13157730
>I have autism so I get bored with fun things, reading books that read like watching paint dry is good

>>13156968
>heard
Don't think I missed you, anon.

>>13157656
Good list friendo, you forgot Brent Weeks though.

> most bizarre book

American Psycho. Shit is book performance art.

>>13157474
I will usually read one book in the series and then either read something non-fiction or something from a collection of short stories to mix it up a little before continuing the series.

>>13157656
Don't put Abercrombie in a list with people that are actually good at world building.

>>13157474
Only if I like the series and can't wait to continue reading it. When rereading older series that I've finished (WoT, Malazan, anything by Tad Williams) I sometimes take a break, but that usually just leads to me not bothering to finish the reread, and for the more complicated ones it's better to just stick with it the whole way through.

Are there any video game novels that are actually good? I remember hearing that the Resident Evil novels were decent because the author was a fan of the games and she actually tried to make them faithful to the source material, and that the Peter Watts novel for Crysis 2 was good.

>>13158334
Metro

>>13158334

It's not great but the Bioshock novel was actually interesting. Followed the development of Rapture from start to finish with several character POV's that were quite well fleshed out. The plot followed what preceded in the game quite well while adding a fair amount of original world-building that stuck to the games general tone. It's a quick read as well, three days at most i'd say even if you're a slow reader.

>>13158254
>re-reading Malazan
I admire your patience.
Not because I don't like Malazan, but that's a lot of fucking reading.

>>13158366

the novel came before the game.

>>13158401
Not that guy but are they good? I really liked the atmosphere in the games.

>>13158409

I hear the english translation is pretty bad, but then again I read them in Polish and that may have been a shit version too. They're pretty god, nothing great but the world-building is solid even if the characters are pretty one dimensional. The books are far bleaker than the game imo.

>>13158418
>The books are far bleaker than the game imo.
Goddamn...
That sucks about the translation but now I'm curious, might as well check the first one out at least.

I hate this 'maymay' but this one made me giggle
>tfw almost done with Book 3/Volume 10 of Coiling Dragon
>not even halfway done with this shitshow

>>13158334
Doom

>>13158334

I had no idea just how many novels based on games are out there, but hell, there are dozens. And almost all of them seem to suck. I thought there would be just a handful.

I haven't read them, but I found two particularly promising novels: a trilogy based on Myst, which sounds interesting because the original creator of the game was actually involved in the writing and I've seen a lot of praise to it, and a book based on Ico, which was written by a seemingly talented Japanese writer of fantasy which has actually been on my list for a while (she wrote Brave Story, which was even adapted into a movie).

https://www.goodreads.com/series/40855-myst
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9766063-ico

Apart from that, LiEat has a light novel written by the author. Not great in any sense, but a nice fanservice.

Apart from those, I haven't found anything that sounds worth it. Anyone ever read the Warhammer novels?

>>13158334
I Heard that the Halo and Gears of Wars novels are decent

Hey bros, do you guys have any tips when reading a huge series like Malazan or WoT? I am fairly new to Fantasy and have only read the basics, but I dove into WoT about a month ago. I am on book 3 and loving it so far but I'm afraid I will burn out at my current pace. Do you guys suggest reading shit in-between books or taking breaks between them?

>>13159105
Shit I just read someone posted basically the same question earlier, just ignore me, sorry lads.

>>13159105
My personal recommendation is not to waste your time on that shit at all, but there's no reason to slog through if you're getting burned out. Remember that years elapsed between novel publications, so a contemporary reader would have had enforced "breaks".

>>13158619
seconding this. they are surprisingly good.

What do you think of Xanth, /sffg/?

Are there any books with dragons where the dragon is just a total fuckin idiot? I’m sick of the all-knowing, cunning, wise, mysterious, riddle-speaking, majestic dragon trope. Just gimme a half-wit dragon flyin into shit all the time n humpin doorknobs n shit

>>13155700
What do I read next, /sffg/?

I finished the first Elric book, and then Blindsight and enjoyed both but I don't want to continue with either series for now. I want to read but am having trouble picking something short and sweet.

>>13159191
Puns are the lowest form of humor.

Hey guys, I am looking for the "Virgin Bastard vs. Chad Torturer" img comparing Jon Snow and Severian

ty

>>13159278
No, that's satire. Puns can be bad but some puns are great.

>>13159271
>short and sweet
The King of Elfland's daughter.

>>13159287
Not on my shelves sadly. I'll add it to my list. Just looking for something under 300 pages that I can finish under a week and leaves me feeling good about what I read.

I just got The Three Body Problem but have been hesitant. Also have the Coldfire and Hyperion series to read but have neglected those too.

Weirdstone of Brisingamen, maybe?

>>13159271
>>13159297
Pride of Chanur, it's part of a series in Cherryh's A-U setting but is effectively a stand alone story about some lion aliens finding a human stowaway on their ship. Fairly slim and a quick, entertaining read.

>>13156894
I'm not talking specifically about the LotR movies, but movies in general. If you only read for the story and don't enjoy beautiful prose, what's the point of reading to get to the story?

>>13159105
>Hey bros, do you guys have any tips when reading a huge series like Malazan or WoT?
Yes. Don't. Especially if you don't read that much. If you continue at this pace you'll have put 6 months, half a year, into a single fantasy series of average quality before you're done. If you then continue with Malazan that's another 6 or so months.

>>13158334
this>>13158374
the bioshock book is actually pretty good.

What are some good books about knights doing knightly things?
Jousting, saving maidens, defending the weak, you know, the whole thing.

Where do I start with Sanderson and the Cosmere universe? I keep seeing different answers.

>>13157548
Peace.

>>13159521
The Wizard Knight

What's surreal science fiction?

>>13159521
The 3 Dunk & Egg stories. Great stuff.
>>13159523
The Emperors Soul
Then Way of Kings or Warbreaker.
>>13159728
Lathe of Heaven

>>13159523

>As for finishing my book… I fear that New Zealand would distract me entirely too much. Best leave me here in Westeros for the nonce. But I tell you this — if I don’t have THE WINDS OF WINTER in hand when I arrive in New Zealand for worldcon, you have here my formal written permission to imprison me in a small cabin on White Island, overlooking that lake of sulfuric acid, until I’m done. Just so long as the acrid fumes do not screw up my old DOS word processor, I’ll be fine.


!!TWOW 2020!!!

>>13159925
More like GRRM to prison 2020.
But honestly, he seem to be in a good mood and write about writing instead of writing about not writing. I'm starting to believe that the book might actually get done.

>>13155959
If Excession didn't have that bullshit with the love triangle it'd be my favorite Culture book and in my top five sci-fi books.
The human parts of the book ruin the impersonal, "we're gods and only doing this because we're bored" feel I get from the rest of the book.

>>13156335
malazan is the exact opposite of a slow start

>>13158568
lost at the stable foundation bit

>>13159271
Finished the sequels to pic related, so here I come shilling it. It's about a thief who gets mixed up in a scheme via wizard that ends with everybody in it switching bodies. It's a light-hearted comedy that works well as a standalone.
>>13159228
Pic related, kind of. The dragon ends up having the soul of a (initially) demure, feminine princess who is very much unskilled in dragon-ing.
Not that the actual dragon himself is much better, as the whole reason he got mixed up in the plot of the story was due to him being in severe debt thanks to gambling, and when spoken to he comes off as not quite the sharpest knife in the drawer. Also, just look at that derpy face.

>>13156173
CARPETS
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>>13159105
I tend to read one of the malazan books each year, around the time I'm feeling burned out from real books and need to give my brain a rest. It's the lit equivalent of fast food.

>>13160294
>takes the bait for the team
what's a real book? something educational or philosophical?

>>13159460
This is sffg not lit you pretentious pseud. Take your prose masturbation to outer lit with the other pseudo intellectual snobs. Why are you shitting up our general with your presence? Is outer lit getting more shit than usual?

>>13160338
>abloo abloo someone in a thread about reading enjoy reading
Put an end to your butthurt existance m8

>>13160316
a book that isn't just a transcription of someone's d&d campaign

>>13160338
what's wrong with enjoying well written prose?
it's brainlets like you that have made fantasy and sci fi the domain of incels and neckbeards

>>13160373
>>13160391
Seething

>>13160546
having taste is a cultivated luxury, it's only natural passions get high

What is some bara fantasy?

sick of all the medieval fantasy

how do i spice it up?

>>13159279
I want this too

>>13160656
read something completely different
try gormenghast of something

>>13160656
Powder mage series is a different setting. Aside from that, there's really not many series set in Classical or Industrial Revolution periods. I suppose if you want a Renaissance setting you could always try Wheel of Time.

>>13156345
>>13156419
Finished Wolfblade. After a certain event, Baka Princess seemed to partially backslide into a twit again, but that particular fruit bore interesting fruit. The ending got me very interested in grabbing the 2nd part of the trilogy, Warrior. It was low-key hype, is what I'm saying.
So yeah, you'll have a good time.

>>13160294
I doubt it, there are too many details

>>13160787
yes but a lot of the details are ancillary points. It's not that hard to remember what's going on anyway.

Are William Gibson's cyberpunk and dystopain stuff any good? What's his style like, poetic or utilitarian?

>>13160985
Definitely more utilitarian, but he does have some great turns of phrase like the opening to Neuromance: "The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel."

I find it a recurring theme that the first novel in all his trilogies is the best and they tend to get worse from there.

Just read To Ride Hell's Chasm. Can anyone recommend something similar?

>malazan is hard reading
>can only read one malazan book a year
this is some embarrassing next-level casualry on par with >>>/v/
i bet you niggers ain't even read 10 books this year yet

>>13161057
>tfw you're a lazy NEET and spend most of the day either reading or playing vidya

>>13161057
I don't think that's what they meant anon.
>>13161081
I spent a week apiece on the first two Malazans and I've only read a couple hours before bed every night.

>>13161057
malazan has a lot of characters and facts to remember, there are like 3 continents, 40 different warrens and 300+ characters

>>13161129
God, I wish Malazan had a good editor. There's great high fantasy in there but it's surrounded by so much shit that's pretty irrelevant to the core conflict.

>>13160654
Does it even exist? Asking for a friend

>>13161057
clearly reading comprehension is not your strong point. don't worry though, you'll get it eventually if you keep trying.

>>13160654
>>13161285
A land fit for heroes.

Hello, /sffg/. Has there anything fantasy related been published over the past couple of years that has been a must-read and gone on to be a breakout hit?

>>13161654
Nope

>>13161654
Not really. Indies became successful and Kindle authors are making bank. The litrpg genre happened and its apparently printing money. Heroic fantasy is slowly making a comeback as everyone starts to get tired of dark fantasy.
But there has been nothing that has been actually good enough to be a must read.

I just hugged a girl and caused a miscarriage.
Please give me a book that deals with this feel? (I feel no remorse).

At Barnes and Noble right now, litpill me on Children of Time

>>13156524
This shit was amazing.

>>13161779
Which is better, Children of Time or The Forever War

>>13161779
Children of Time is horrendous

>>13161779
Don't read it if you have arachnophobia. If not then buy it.

>>13159281
The greatest pun in the world is not as funny as someone slipping on an ice patch.

>>13161779
Children of Time is not that good.

It's 50% extremely cliche, unoriginal space exploration sci-fi featuring a cast of totally dull, bland forgettable humans. The other 50% of the book is basically Fire Upon the Deep except with spiders instead of wolves. This half is a lot better but I still wouldn't rate it about a 7.5/10 even at it's best (once the spiders get to the information age it gets wild). The ending is really shit. Ultimate it's like a 4/10.

>>13162016
>>13162066
What should I buy if I want to see culture exchange/shock between humans and aliens? Or humans from different eras

>>13162130
If you want the highest amount of "shock", blindsight.

>>13155895
Please tell me that’s his sister not his wife

>>13161744

>>13162130
This. I'd like to know about some of the best first contact novels out there.

>>13162369
Blindsight, a first contact novel with *genuinely* non human aliens.

>>13161744
>>13162247
Ma Chans Daily Life

>>13162369
Childhood's End, Roadside Picnic and Three Body Problem are three great, and different first contact books.

>>13162369
Contact, Forge of God, The Sparrow, Rendezvous with Rama

Dany snapping was the only good thing in season 8 but it was handled terribly. Are there any good fantasy novels about a good characters descent into evil?

>>13162494
>>13162392
Good answers, I'll also suggest Gateway by Pohl and the more recent Rosewater by Tade Thompson (the latter is a bit campy and sort of a rehash of Roadside Picnic but I enjoyed it).

>>13162604
>Gateway by Pohl
How much product placement am I suppose to expect from this?

Just finished Aurora, and I want tho read more about big generational ships. Any recommendations?

>>13162820
If you're into literary stuff you should read Aniara.

>>13162820
Chasm city
On the Steel Breeze (Poseidon's Children #2, can apparently be read stand-alone)
These both are better than Aurora in my opinion as they don't have Aurora's anti-climactic ending of pussying out, turning around and fucking off back to earth.

>>13162880
>>13162922
Thanks. I'll read them!

anyone else always keep world maps at hand and constantly refer to them when new places are mentioned?

>>13163186
>>>/tg/

Damn. A lot of books are starting on royal road, then going to kindle and audible.

>>13163233
Yup, I already read four best rated (Mother of Learning, The Iron Teeth, The Wandering Inn and Everybody Loves Large Chests). Any other recommendation?

>>13161230
I'm trying to get through the first book now and I feel like a loser for reading it, there is nothing interesting to think about. I'm going to soldier on through the long weekend but Jesus fucking Christ, the dialogue and character names come off like a 15 year old wrote them. It feels like the target audience is greasy neck beards who sit alone in the community college cafe

>>13155700
>>What are you reading?
>>13163202

What's the best fantasy series if I care far more about worldbuilding than the events of the story itself?

The only one I've ever really loved is Lord of the Rings because Tolkein devoting half a dozen pages to describing the geography and history of some random field the characters are walking through makes me cum in my pants.

>>13163186
I have to keep flipping back to the front, but yeah.

I recently finished reading Babel-17, which was a huge mistake because I also recently read Ted Chiang's Stories of Your Life and Others collection. Story of Your Life is thematically just a way better Babel-17 that doesn't bog itself down with stupid spess battles and polyamory propaganda and focuses solely on the linguistics. The "you/I" conversation between Rydra and the Butcher is probably the best part of the book, but that's not saying much.

Stories of Your Life is a great collection though. I'm probably going to buy Exhalation once I've worked through more of my backlog.

>>13163256
>Mother of Learning
>The Iron Teeth
>The Wandering Inn
>Everybody Loves Large Chests
Only large chest has an audiobook.

Other I know.
Advent by Xander Boyce
Blue Mage Raised by Dragons
Godking's legacy
The Dungeon Traveler by Alston Sleet
These are all I can remember at the moment.

>>13163256
>The Wandering Inn
>Volume 1
>Print Length: 1158 pages
Nope.

>>13162820
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrow_(novel)

>>13163543
Maybe stick to children's books; lots of pictures and few words.

>about to start book 4 of Coiling Dragon
>1112 pages
kill me

>>13163186
only for real world history (google maps)

>>13163556
>hey guys, if you don't read bloat Volume 1 of 10, with each volume being over 1k pages, you should like, read picture books man

>>13163636
Yup, you got it

I liked this book in HS. I remember it being interesting, kind of accurate in a way about how the future turned out. Still own my copy, might read again and see if it holds up.

I feel like reading some scifi shit. Any recommended ones from the newer times?

>>13155959
I cant find it anywhere online where is

>>13160985
Hard-boiled noir is the style

>>13163726
Try Children of Time

>>13163556
>IT HAS A LOT OF PAGES SO THAT MEANS IT'S GOOD

>>13164075
Maybe reading isn't for you if the amount of pages confound you. I didn't say it was good or bad. I liked it, and it happens to have a lot of pages. Is The Lord of the Rings bad because it has too many pages?
You should try another board, it may suit you better.

>>13163989
Read that, but apparently there's second book out so thanks.

Is The Poppy War any good? It sounds interesting but the comparison to NK Jemisin and this blurb
>Rin is targeted from the outset by rival classmates because of her color, poverty, and gender.
Makes me think it's probably crap.

I've never read any of Erikson's Malazan books, I read recently that there's another Malazan series by another author, Ian Cameron Esslemont. Is the other series worth reading? What are the relative flaws and merits of each?

>>13164410
Yes. It’s shit In the same vein as Jemisin

>>13164410
It's good. Ignore the blurb in is as much that it intentionally paints a false impression about what the book is really about.

What's your favorite Arthurian Fantasy and why?

I need the hardest, most emotionless, most inhumane scifi around. what you got for me

Hyperion is so good

>>13164494
I have no mouth and I must scream

I'm a complete newfag to reading but in short im reading the Mistborn trilogy so I can ease myself into reading better.

I'm looking for some shorter books to read alongside this heavier book in terms of size,
Thanks in advance /lit/.

Is Wheel of Time actually bad or are you guys just contrarians?

>>13164811
Mostly just contrarians. There is a major slog in the middle though.

>>13163678
Is that Kangaroo Jack?

>>13164112
>. Is The Lord of the Rings bad because it has too many pages?
No. It's bad because it has lots of pages, and is shit.

>>13164811
It's the popular fantasy series of the last 30 years with normies. It's mentioned every thread. Most of /sffg/ hate it because "women" and yet waifu arguments are even more heated.

It's good with faults.

>>13165018
>It's mentioned every thread.
That's the real reason it gets bashed.

What are your thoughts on these books? My friend recommended them but his taste is dubious at best.

>>13165062
>the boys are back in town
>girls just want to have fun

I would be pretty wary just based on that, don't know if it's an unfair judgement but it sounds kinda dumb.

>>13155813
Jerry Cornelius outpynchons Pynchon.

>>13165062
>>13165095
They are dumb, but they are fun. Nice palate cleansers between heavier books

>>13165062
They are real dumb get the band back together for old times sakey but I fucking loved them. Any book that consistently makes the joke that all bards die horrible deaths is my kinda fantasy humor. That said the villain is absolutely retarded beyond belief by the end

>>13159523
Warbreaker or The first Mistborn Trilogy.

>>13160656
Black Leopard Red Wolf.

Is Dune brainlet-friendly?
Everywhere I go it's regarded as a must read when it comes to science fiction but I don't even know what it's about and I want to check it out.

>>13165581
is that any good?

>>13165619
>Is Dune brainlet-friendly?
Yes

>>13165619
Depends on what part of your brain is smoothest. The sci-fi concepts are pretty basic - precognition, psychic shit, spaceships. The writing is a fucking slog, though.

>>13164423
Except that it's absolutely not. The whole series is a huge strawman by a butthurt Chinese author shitting on her version of the Japanese (the Federation of Mugen). Would have been a hilarious read if it were not a generic as fuck go-to-fantasy- school book.

>>13165648
It's either you love it or hate it.

The novel has so many graphic elements (rape, pedophilia etc) that it might turn you off.

Also it's really long(600 pages) with a plot that's opaque and kinda slow.

But I personally loved it flaws and all.

>>13164811
WoT, just like Malazan and basically any other epic fantasy, have its bright parts but it's horribly bloated and a waste of time to read. It's saying something that what was originally intended as a trilogy ended up being 14 fucking books. Also the last three books being completed by a different author definitely hurt the series.

>>13165648
Do you like rape? If your answer is yes you'll love it.

>>13165619
>I don't even know what it's about
Space muslims shipping drugs. And huge worms that shit drugs.

>>13165581
I looked up a toasty roastie goodreads review
>also, the amount of lewdness in the book is obscene. im not easily deterred by things sexual in nature, but this is too extreme for me. a big neon flashing trigger warning is necessary for the following: rape, gang rape, pedophilia, bestiality, incest, mutilation of bodies, graphic murder, physical and emotional abuse, repetitious orgies, torture, misogyny, etc. and none of it has any relevance to the plot or progression of the storyline. i understand that mythology doesnt shy away from such brutality, but there is a difference between being aware and just being down right offensive. and this book is the latter.
Sounds based.

>>13165837
>and none of it has any relevance to the plot or progression of the storyline
Based and GRI-pilled

>>13165758
>>13165781
I mostly struggle when a book has many different characters, sometimes I can't keep track of what they look like or their relationship to each other.
>The writing is a fucking slog, though.
Yeah, some reviews said that, something about the world building being pretty good but the characters and their dialogues not so much.

>>13165827
Sounds rad

>>13164709
your best bet is to look at comedic fantasy, newfriend. Most normal fantasy stories, even (especially) the standalones, are long as hell. The Mistborn books are fairly average length.
As for sci fi, just replace comedic with military (though there are some doorstoppers in that vein).

>>13165837
>rape, gang rape, pedophilia, bestiality, incest, mutilation of bodies, graphic murder, physical and emotional abuse, repetitious orgies, torture, misogyny

Sounds lovely

>>13165062
they're riffs on music and super-bands, desu
bands = well, bands, except they kill stuff instead of playing music
I only read the first book, and it's dumb and fun

>>13165837
>misogyny is equal to pedophilia and gang rape

What's some good fantasy with a non-human protagonist? No weeb shit, thanks.
(Or is it all weeb shit? I'll do it if I have to, but I'd rather not)

>>13165878
Book of the New Sun

>>13165848
>I mostly struggle when a book has many different characters, sometimes I can't keep track of what they look like or their relationship to each other.
Well you're in luck because there aren't that many characters in Dune.

>>13165882
Wow spoilers

>>13164709
Sanderson isn't that great but he's a very consistent author so you're not gonna get anything bad, just bland. Personally I found the latter two Mistborn books to be pretty tiresome and derivative.

Anyways I would say go to your local main library and just grab stuff that looks cool. It costs nothing but your time and generally they'll have a decent collection of stuff by both famous and minor authors, new and old.

Older scifi authors like Heinlein and Asimov do a good job writing "idea fiction" where a concept is explained to the reader who's assumed to have marginal scientific background, but expect character writing more two-dimensional than Sanderson until the 60s-70s when the New Wave started and SF authors started getting experimental and talking more about how these technological ideas would affect society, eventually resulting in stuff like Cyberpunk in the 80s.

Older fantasy authors like Robert E. Howard and Tolkien laid down a lot of the groundwork and plot concepts (ugh, tropes) that form the basis for modern fantasy writing.

Personally one of the reason I suggest starting with "the classics" is that generally they're good and if you go back to say, The Black Company after reading modern grimdark stuff it'll seem crude and derivative because of how much newer books built off of them. Starship Troopers is a bland political treatise with a couple battles taped on but basically all modern military science fiction builds off of it. Lord of the Rings basically built the archetype of western "epic fantasy" and has countless imitators due to how influential/damaging it was to fantasy writing.

Is there a good version of this? That is, dealing with aliens' illnesses and injuries as a doctor? Stardoc turned into a retarded romance. All I wanted was the comfy medical shit, you fuck - no-one cares about your hunger for alien dick.

>>13166109
Sector General by James White is probably exactly what you're looking for. (I haven't read it myself though)
>The series derives its name from the setting of the majority of the books, the Sector 12 General Hospital, a huge hospital space station located in deep space, designed to treat a wide variety of life forms with a wide range of ailments and life-support requirements, and to house an equally diverse staff. The Hospital was founded to promote peace after humanity's first interstellar war, and in the fourth book the authorities conclude that its emergency services are the most effective way to make peaceful contact with new species.

>In order to treat patients of other species, doctors must download into their brains "Educator tapes" containing the necessary medical knowledge, and these tapes also transmit the personalities of their donors. As a result, doctors have to struggle with the tastes imported from their donors, ranging from a dislike of their own species' normal food to sexual attraction for members of the donor's species. Other running gags include the acerbic tongue of the Chief Psychologist and one very senior non-human doctor's love of gossip, especially about the sexual behavior of other species.

>The series is noted for its diverse and believable non-humanoid alien life forms, and for its pacifist philosophy.
>White said that The Troubles in Northern Ireland induced him to write about the sort of world he would like to live in, and that he disliked war and militarists.[7] As a youth he wanted to become a doctor, but had to go out to work.[8]

Redpill me on The Stormlight Archive, there are first two books in the local book store, might impulse buy on my next visit.

>>13165878

Perdido Street Station (one of the protagonists is a Garuda, and there's a beetle-faced girl who's not a protagonist but plays a big part in the story).

>>13166173
There are words on the pages.

>>13166173
It's a relatively generic anime with a bunch of muh ebil colonialism muh noble savages garbage.

Really fell in love with the idea of incredibly minor characters early on becoming major plot points later on in the series like in Twin Peaks, any sci fi like that.

>>13166279
Shiit. I just want a good, gritty series about war, light politics and magic that doesn't involve people casting fireballs and lifting cities in to the sky. I thought The Stormlight Archive would be that.
Eh.

>>13166292
>magic that doesn't involve people casting fireballs and lifting cities in to the sky
>Anything by Sanderson
You're looking in completely the wrong direction. Try the Farseer trilogy if you haven't read it already. Farseer has two sequel trilogies, it's better not to read the last trilogy though because it sucks. The Powder Mage series and its sequel are also decent.

>>13166310
>Farseer has two sequel trilogies, it's better not to read the last trilogy though because it sucks.
Is it really that bad? Not a fan of starting series if PTs/STs are crap. I want to read everything that is set in that universe, everything.

>>13166310
>The Powder Mage
i still cant get used to how goofy it sounds
its alright though, decent series

>>13166323
It's just unnecessary, it doesn't really go anywhere, and generally just remains uninteresting right up until a flaccid ending. It's tacked on, and the second trilogy already had a satisfying ending.
In the first book nothing happens at all until the last 50 pages (it's 650 pages long), the second book is chock full of forced drama and misunderstandings, and the final book is just depressingly shitty.

Is the Sword of Shadows series Raina/Blackhail plotline a prophetic redpill on immigration and (((conspiracy))) from the recent past?
>be ancient, venerable clan with long traditions
>neighbouring clan gets BTFO and overrun almost entirely
>leader of home clan, who has some of their blood in his veins, lets some stay while they get their shit together
>this is fine, they're weird and different, sure, but fairly chill and unoffensive
>leader invites lots more because "they have nowhere to go" despite having held on to a bit of land
>these newcomers acting like shitheads, not giving a fuck for our tradtions, leaving rubbish everywhere
>people grumble about them but leave it be, they'll be going eventually and they'll be friendly towards us in future
>leader favours them, and it's clear his foreign blood has more of a hold on him than the 80% of his life he's spent with us and immersed in our ways
>it's clear that he's more in touch with his
>our religion suffers a terrible blow when a holy relic is partially destroyed and our religious leader killed
>leader suggests that the other clan, belonging to a slightly different branch of the faith, bring one of their relics and priests, and share it as a gesture of friendship and unity
>no mention of the foreigners ever leaving
>said priest is obviously power-hungry and often in seclusion with our leader, the traitorous scum
>resentment among the common clansman grows as the foreigners begin to exert more influence and seem to think they're in charge
>tension comes to a head when our holy relic is seen being carted off and scrapped for parts, and it's announced that the leader of the foreign clan will be coming to stay
>clansmen revolt when their leader is away
I don't believe in (((this))), but I do believe that powerful people tend to collude with others to hold onto their power, and that most actual refugees are grateful to get out of their shit place and integrate. It's the fucks that come for open season that are bad.

>>13166323
each of the series is fairly well-contained (though the Fitz ones require you to have read their prequels for full context, they can still work alone)
Liveships is neat, in the same universe

Get on my level, motherfuckers.

Best Sci Fi novel ever.

>>13166419
Nice clipart cover

>tfw you have a female friend who you've never really talked about books with, so you bring them up and then she says her favourite book is Twilight
What non-retarded thing can I possibly recommend to her, lads? She's not a braindead mong, but this book taste...

>>13166492
>Not braindead
>Favorite series is Twilight

>>13155700
Sorry for the dumb question. I'm writing a fantasy story and don't really know where to post it where people can see it. I got a suggestion to use wattpad.

>>13166509
there should be a /write/ thread in the catalog
and
>wattpad
don't
it's where cancer lives
the books that come out of it are awful even by normie standards

>>13166492
She should probably take a break from fantasy until her tastes have evolved. Recommend Austen and the Brontë sisters. She'll get the romance and difficult males but in quality writing. Then move on to Jonathan Strange.

>>13156303
Listen instead, its one of the better narrated books and you can do other stuff while you do.

>>13166515
I'm so sorry. I'll go post it there. Thanks for the heads up!

>>13166509
>Wattpad
For when FanFiction.net's standards are just too high for you.

Seriously, unless you're a 12 year old girl writing 5SoS fapfics for other 12 year old girls, you've got no reason to be on Wattpad. It is pure cancer. Try Royal Road. It's less cancerous in the same way smoking a pack of cigarettes a day is less cancerous than fellating a nuclear fuel rod.

I have a boner for liches and Necromancy.
What should I read? The faggot from throne of bones?

>>13166655
The Barrow has lots of undead and finding the tomb of an ancient lich is the entire plot.

>>13165062
First book was shit. Didn't touch the second.

>>13156770
Is it tho?

>13166753
If you don't have anything to contribute, don't post at all.

Is A Throne of Bones worth reading?

>>13157474
I will read something else between books, either non-fiction, or a completely different genre of fiction.

>>13165619
People say it's pretty hard to read but it went down pretty easy to me, it reminds me of some young adult book at times but with a better prose and themes. I guess it depends on what you ussually read and enjoy. A friend of mine who read a lot of isekai and web novels said it was hard to read.

>>13165619
It's a bit boring but definitely not complex. Most people read it as a young teenager.

>>13166770
>google the name
>Imagine earthy Tolkienesque characters...
No, it's not.

>>13162603
Book 2 of malazan

>>13163457
Unironically Malazan, has the most in depth and expansive worldbuilding of any series at the cost of being like 10000 pages, even events that happened like 5000 years ago's effects can be felt in the current day.

Sandersons stormlight series is quite good as well, though obviously artificial in some sense, GRRM is good as well

>>13166655
they get a fair shake in the prince of horns series, not a focus but a reasonably large role

Books where otherwise trustworthy writers dissapointed you

>MY DAD JUST DIED IRL SO HERE'S 800 PAGES OF KRUPPE WALKING AROUND A CITY AND 100 PAGES OF REALLY COOL CLIMAX

Blood Song bros, rec books that are like Blood Song.

>>13166838
not the sequels
and what elements of blood song appealed to you?

>>13166822
Kruppe best boy.
You can't take my retarded magic man down.

Anyone read this? Saw it in the shop today.

>>13166852
Best cover I've ever seen. However I've not read it yet, will probably read it during summer.

>>13166852
No but all the feminists i know irl loved it. Apparently it's all about court intrigue, politics and shit. I really like the cover, it's a shame since I'll never read it now.

>>13166838
I liked it all desu but if I had to choose it would be the army school/training/brotherhood trope that was the best.

>>13166838
Hey it's notaragorn and notCirith ungol

>>13166867
>army school/training/brotherhood

Haven't reafd
way of kings then, prince of thorns has an edgy brotherhood of rapists etc as well

fug, i misquoted
>>13166842
see>>13166867

What is the closest /sffg/ book to Hokuto no Ken.

>>13166873
yikes anon, I meant rec me something good.

Way of Kings had some good parts like bridgeburners but I found it a bit underwhelming overall, but still it was a lot better than Meme Lawrence's writing. Prince of Thorns was straight up trash.

>>13166885
conan.
dude goes around punching people more than he actually uses weapons.

>>13166857
>>13166860
Probably buy it then and see. Thanks.

Is anyone on here reading fan/web fiction like HPMOR, Worth the Candle or Mother of Learning? I know they lack literary merit but they're enjoyable either way.
Do you think a thread about amateur fiction would survive?

>>13166932
people here regularly discuss things posted on royalroad and similar sites.
discussion varies to many degrees. ranging from civil discussion to outright flamewars.
sometimes theres threads discussing them in outerlit but most of the time theres not enough interest.
there is a webserial thread occasionally though.
typically interest is low. people read them but dont discuss them as such.

>>13166517
Ah yes the good old days when I was young and awesome and my favourite books were the Lord of the Rings, Twilight, The Night Angel Trilogy, 1984, The Keys to the Kingdom, The Last Dragon Chronicles and Pride and Prejudice.

I had just borrowed one of Juliet Marillier books from the library and loved it so much that I never wanted to return it. So I had the fantastic idea that I could keep a library borrowed book forever by printing every page of it off with a printer or by writing it down on toilet paper.

>>13166932
After some anon mentioned it earlier, I checked out Iron Teeth, which I've yet to form a proper opinion on. I also read Mother of Learning (though not in a while, so no clue if complete) and the Zombie Knight Saga (nowhere near as cringy as the title would indicate, is about an awkward teen brought back to life after commiting suicide with the responsibility of preventing death... and it's on a Berserk-tier hiatus)
No, I don't think a thread would survive; /lit/ is too austistic, and /sffg/ is the non-pseud containtment thread anyway

>>13166921

Does Conan have his own Raoh? I also wonder how Conan fans feel about his inclusion into Marvel currently. Seems gimmicky.

>>13166955
>Keys to the Kingdom
based and nixpilled

>>13166961
I still have all of them in my bookshelf. I'm glad Nix is coming out with a new book.

>>13166967
huh, that's news to me
I was more a Sabriel/Lirael/Abhorsen fan myself, though

>>13166975
I loved all of Nix's books, but they were quite annoying/expensive to get a hold of back in the day.

>>13166955

>>13166961
book 4 was kino, that evil rabbit thing was kind of scary, ending of the series sucked though imo

>>13164112
>IT HAS A LOT OF PAGES SO THAT MEANS ONLY SMART PEOPLE CAN ENJOY IT
lol are bloatfags really this stupid?

This book started out with no subtext, then yuri subtext and ended up as Madoka level gay complete and with an unexpected and cute confession of love! MC has a cute flustered and concerned waifu! It was really cute and believable, because nowadays characters seem to have no real chemistry with each other (not even in the nonromantic sense) and seem to only be included for muh inclusion and/or get written by autists.

I think that the authors of Ninefox Gambit and Ancillary Justice could have learned a thing or two from this author, especially as there was an aura of mystery and worldbuilding and the characters were quite interesting. I'm an empirefag so there was a nice bit of pandering as I enjoy rulers/dictator types who don't behave like total wankers and there was an interesting bit of ethical dilemna still think that emperor-kun should have stuck his imago in his clone's brain.

I do think that the imago concept was underdone and should have behaved a bit less like brain tulpas and with a bit more PKDick style mindfuck but I enjoyed the plot nonetheless. I don't normally read /u/ books and sometimes avoid them but I would /u/ again.

give us new thread

>>13167141
>20 posts early

>>13167101
How many bugs in the book in your pic

>>13167151
Rebbit users just out themselves so easily.

>>13167141
>t.retard

>>13166852
>samantha
>laure

recommend me a decent space opera before new thread

>>13166492
>female friend
wish i have one, or just a friend will do

>>13167273
Vorkosigan series
Yes,he fucks the mutant. Takes her virginity in a dungeon right after she eats a giant rat

>>13167290
>female mutant
dropped

>>13167290
good shit

>>13167290
That is not how I imagine Taura to look

>>13167347
Yeah ik, she's supposed to be a beautiful giantess but the cover artist took some liberties. Vorkosigan series in general has some of the worst covers I've ever seen.

>>13167290
that Anne McCaffrey quote

>>13164811
If it’s popular lad, lit doesn’t like it

>>13167375
>tfw no genetically engineered 12 foot tall, clawed and fanged, nervous, horny gf

lookin for a good turtle-based fantasy anons

>>13166109
>>13166125
I have read Sector General and it is exactly what anon wants. Comfy alien medical mysteries.

>>13167290
im looking for a more strictly human vs aliens

oh boy, Amerifats waking up just in time for a new thread. Ruined before it even began.

>>13167683
Kek, too true. Goodnight lit

>>13167468
Discworld, obviously.
Seriously though, Small Gods. Om is a god in the form of a helpless turtle, desu

>>13167726
>>13167726
>>13167726
>>13167726
new bread, fresh from the oven

hmm, not sure if I should make a new thread or go with this >>13167732 brain damaged anons shit thread.

>>13167740
Just post a proper OP in the new thread. This general have been blessed by an absence of thread wars and such bullshit, let's keep it that way.

>>13159105
I never read Malazan or WoT (dropped Malazan halfway in the first book, been feeling like trying again lately), but whenever I read a big fantasy saga, I read it in one sitting.

Is Malazan even worth reading?
I tried the first book and didn't even end it.
Should I actually put some effort in it?
I don't want to start a big story for it to be shit

>>13166952
>>13166957
So would it be okay to discuss it in here? Most of it is fantasy anyways. MoL is up to chapter 99 btw and suppoded to end soonish.
If you have any other recommendations I'd like to hear them. Especially completed stories that aren't too long - if there's one thing I hate about these stories beside the lack of editors is the meandering endlessness.

Please recommend a decent epub and mobi reader for pc.

>>13166482
That's the censored dust cover. This is the real thing

>>13162169
maybe both

>>13166958
>Does Conan have his own Raoh?
Sadly no,he has Thot Amon but he's a mage.
Conan in marvel it's not a new thing,he was a part of the marvel universe for almost 30 years (from the 70s until the late 90s),they lost the rights to darkhorse but now they have him again.

>>13166852
I also saw it. Read the back and saw it was praised for it's feminism and immediately put it back on the shelf