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Something that I've noticed is that people who take an interest in Whitehead, Deleuze, Derrida etc and who express an antipathy towards 'being' typically suffer from inwards flaws that make them seek to disassociate them from themselves, to metaphysically 'cuckold' themselves out of existence as it were. They then project this attitude onto everything and everyone which is why like western buddhists and anglo protestants they take to proselytizing their newfound beliefs because it helps to fill the hole in their heart

>> No.13153916

>>13153909
>says the being proselyte

>> No.13153955

>>13153916
>n-no you...
Everyone who obsesses over process philosophy and the above thinkers all do so because they have some ingrained flaw, either they are ugly, too short, don't have good social skills, unintelligent, the list goes on, either that or it's because they've messed up their life in some way. Reading these figures acts as a consolation because that way it helps one convince themselves that none of these things actually mattered or have real significance, because "being isn't real lol', it functions as form of catharsis, it's all very transparent and amusing for me to observe

>> No.13153960

or maybe philosophical views aren't the result of some kind of psychopathology but instead a construction of concepts based on philosophers that came before them, where things like ego and the notion of there being a way the world is has been shown to be incoherent in one way or another. Like Deleuze building on Sartre's criticism of Husserl's egology, or Derrida reacting to Husserl's idea of a ground or genesis, later the attack on logocentrism. Bergson, who influenced Deleuze, writes about the world being a flux, and questions whether the static nature of a language can ever correspond to a flux. It is not a metaphysical cuckolding, it is the avoidance of delusion buttressed by language alone. Faulting philosophers for attempting to create theories that are general and trying to convince others that they are right (proselytizing) seems more like a sign of being unwarrantedly uncharitable towards philosophy in general. Psychologizing someone's philosophy isn't to argue against it

>> No.13153966

>>13153955
If you think being "ugly" or "too short" has "real significance," you are the one with the problem.

>> No.13153989

>>13153966
>t. ugly manlet

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>>13153989
fucking robots

>> No.13154151

>>13153909
Can confirm, the few Deleuze/Derrida fags in my uni fit this description.

>> No.13154164

>>13153909
I agree with you to some degree. Why would a person want to obliterate their own sense of self? You lose your identity. But it makes sense if you don't like your identity.

>> No.13154179

>>13153966
Not that it has any sort of 'ultimate significance', but the increased difficulty they can cause for social life affects people nonetheless, and many of them seem to get into 'fuck-it-all' thinkers as a cope so they can console themselves but saying "all this is just capitalist programming or a transient process that isn't real or imagery constructs of language" and so on so they feel less bad when they see Stacy with Chad. It becomes a crutch that people use to disassociate themselves from things. They do this for other stuff as well such as not having to face their own personality flaws.

>> No.13154447

bump

>> No.13154478

>>13154447
but it's a shit thread

>> No.13154512

>>13154478
>t. Deleuzefag

>> No.13154556

>>13153909
Holy crap dude, I hate the Whitehead, Deleuze, Derrida pseuds on /lit/ too but somehow you managed to top them, why is this board entirely made up of brainlets?

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>>13153909
True, I identify with this attitude, though it's more of a life decision made prior to reading Deleuze.
But I'm not western in the first place, it's always a trade up in the end to just never "be" who you were.

>> No.13155276

>>13153909
b&rp, how will Deleuze fanboys ever recover?

>> No.13155297

>>13153909
This is true, OP; the modern man is a cuckold unto himself. The reason is that he is filled with disbelief for the myths of the past but inwardly he cannot overcome them.

>> No.13155310

What people have you met that have read Deleuze, Derrida, and Whitehead what the fuck? Have you actually read them? This thread is retarded.

>> No.13155312

>>13154556
I blame nietzsche. Too many kids read him and get seduced despite having low iqs

>> No.13155334

>>13155312
I also blame Nietzsche honestly.
>>13155310
There's a lot of Deleuze and Whitehead peddlers on this board in particular. Threads get made about them all the time, like Wittgenstein and Nietzsche and Guenon.

>> No.13155337

>>13153955
Yawn. You're right that flawed people are more likely to be nihilistic but that doesn't mean they can't recognize that it's sad to cope and move past it, like the lifelong poor person who votes right wing rather than affiliate themselves with the filth. Don't consider yourself flawless for being happy either.

>> No.13155439

>>13153909
>saying words is proselytizing
Now this is some shit I can get behind. Every philosopher ever btfo guys!!!

>> No.13155469

I would call them poor deluzians but the notion of such a thing isn't that big of a deal. As usual, the creature clings on to where it can. Become a BwO dude - chop yer dick off (because the only counter to being male is not being male yeah? Cause becoming is the opposite of being and this isnt a misreading at all?)

>> No.13155510

NO DONT LET THE TRANNY DICK TOUCH ME NO IM GONNA DIE IM GONNA DIE FUCKFUCKFUCK DELEUZE TRANNY IN MY MIND ANGER I LITERALLY CANNOT HANDLE DYING

>> No.13155514

>>13153909
How dare you disrespect Derrida

>> No.13155583

>>13154179
>all this is just capitalist programming or a transient process that isn't real
>that isn't real
>that isn't real
>Yeah I've read Deleuze haha whata deloser

>> No.13155596

>>13155337
Deleuze may be about becoming instead of being but that is actually a positive inspiration for many in a sort of existentialist way. This thread is full of bad faith arguments and strawmanning.