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Imperium by Francis Parker Yockey

>>13149566
Johann Gottfried Herder

Marx, for a start. You can't argue against him without knowing what he's arguing for.

>>13149566
History

>>13149588
I don't need to read him,I already get the gist.

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>>13149586
Are there good audiobook versions of these?

>>13149612
I don't know. If you want a quick fix then I would recommend Three Critics of the Enlightenment by Isaiah Berlin.

>>13149604
t. Wikipedia skimmer

>>13149604
You can't get the gist of 1000 pages book without reading it dumbass

>>13149632
also, Isaiah Berlin is an author who would explain a concept and casually drop in a "Kant's perspective it his" or "Hegel said that". or "Marx, to a certain degree would agree", unbelievable knowledge paired with exceptional writing

>>13149604
I wonder if reading Marx in order to disprove your Marxist professor will turn you into a Marxist.
Read it faggot and post results

>>13149566

Why would you want to disprove someone who's right?

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>>13149677
>bro just read 1000 pages of garbage
Cringe

>>13149612
For Imperium there is on YouTube. It's incomplete but you only really need the section on "Marxism" which has been recorded.

>>13149695
>hasn't read the book
>already has opinion on it
Fucking retard

>>13149566
Unironically Marx.
The more you know his work, the more critical you get.
Also Hegel.

>>13149705
Unless it's literally 1000 pages of "lol just kidding, imagine if I was serious" reading that much Marx is just bad for you and frankly, not worth it

>>13149566
Just let it go, Jordan. It's over. It's been a month already, just keep shilling your carpets on twitter, your fans won't give a shit. It pains me to see a dear friend of mine obsess over something like this. Let it go, man. Let it go.

>>13149711
Once again, how do you know if you haven't read him? I'm not even really a marxist myself but thinking that you are capable of legitimately criticising something you have no understanding of is really stupid

>>13149679

right about what?

STOP IT

>>13149730
I've watched a lot of videos critical of his worldview, I know it's not all it's made out to be

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>>13149730
Plus I know Marxism has never worked, that much is obvious

>>13149755
And what do you thinkhis world view is?

>>13149566
boris chicherin

>>13149566
Call me out on this, I don't give a shit, because I don't study philosophy, but isn't only his theory on Kapital or critique of Capitalism or whatever it's called worth a shit?

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>>13149711
Retard.

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>>13149765
Double retard, or low-rate troll.

>>13149604
Hi Jordan.

>>13149776
Socialism

>>13149791
Yet you cant refute any of it

>>13149795
My name isnt Jordan

>>13149821
okay it isn't, wink wink mr. peterson

>>13149805
Okay, and what is socialism?

>>13149895
BAD

>>13149895
basically, your mom's ass, it's publicly owned

>>13149709
Isn’t Hegel super hard to understand according to memes?

>>13149929
I don't think it is. Some sentences are overly complex, not because of the meaning in them but because of their structure.

>>13149928
xD

>>13149937
Any background knowledge one should have to read him?

all of this is low effort bait

>>13149895
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

To sum it up, nobody owns anything because that would be unfair and everyone has to agree to everything, its childish

>>13149929
Not the concepts, just decyphering the sentences.
He's like a spastic Kant

>>13149954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hh8OGEsmqA
Apply yourself and get to it

>>13149954
I'm not sure. The ideas that get discussed are like whores, every writer has a shot at them once in a while. If you try him and end up misunderstanding him, there's a chance that a writer that came after him will put you straight in one way or another.

On the other hand, I've come to realize that it's less about the concepts and the conclusions and more about the way the great authors come to them.

>>13149962
This is just your first take and you've already shown your ignorance of the distinction between the private and personal property, which is pretty basic. So, if you aren't a baiting retard and really want to argue on this topic, please, read Kapital or at least some shitty summing up of it not to embarrass yourself. And if you aren't interested in the question this much to do this then why bother? Life does not revolve around politics

Gravity's Rainbow

-Actually read Marx like people are saying
-Nietzsche

>>13150598
also some history re: the soviet union, communist china, etc

The humans lose because talking about existant complicated things is hard and doesn't immediatley lend itself to virtue signaling for sex

Origin of species

animal farm
it's short and easy so you should be able to wrap your head around it no problem

>>13149962
>no one owns anything under socialism

I can’t believe what I’m fucking reading. If your professor really is a Marxist, then maybe you should listen to him before you try to critique him.

>>13149604
lmao

>>13149604
fucking based

>>13149566
Shut up idiot

>>13149604
lol u scared that you will turn into a marxist. i was a libertarian until i read capital

>>13149566
>>13149604
t. falseflagging Marxist. The "self-deprecating" frog image gave you away.

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>>13151047
Shut the fuck up, gay faggot.

Marx

(OBVIOUSLY!!! HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DISPROVE AN IDEA WITHOUT GETTING INSIDE OF IT FIRST???)

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>>13149755
Based /pol/ brainlet

Don't even bother arguing with your professor. He won't change his mind.

>>13149795
Heheh

>>13151050
>Marxist psychoanalysis
Had no idea this was a thing

>>13152002
it is but Lacan is not Marxist, and Zizek is hardly a psychoanalyst

>>13149566
That is unironically extremely easy. Just give him the first chapter of Kaczynski's book "Anti-Tech Revolution," the one called "The development of a society can never be subject to rational human control."

(You'll want to conceal who the author is at first. )

Ask him to prove it wrong.

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>>13149765
I also disagree wtih the results of Marxist theory while not having read his works yet, but I couldn't disagree more with what you're insinuating. You've had gatekeepers feed you easy opinions and now you're either too lazy to make your own or are a coward at the though of having your opinions, which you could scarcely defend, easily swayed.