/lit/ - Literature

Not even the best French mind since Montaigne. You delusional frog.

Posting the better gay mustachioed modernist

>slope headed homosexual
cringe, low IQ, and 'english literature' professor teaching translated french pseud tier.

>>13139692
>haha dude flowers i want my mom to kiss me on the mouth lmao i love going on walks lmao let me tell you a 400 page story about a dude falling in love with a whore and getting cucked
woah... so this... is the power... of french literature.......

>>13139744
pseud french literature pushed by subversive degenerate acedemics.
nothing all that great about him, even the prose in the original french isnt that great.

>>13139744
Actually, the punch line is: nothing at all is as it seems.., and the moral is ..but that's okay, because none of it's worth worrying about anyway, except perhaps for artistic purposes.

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>>13139778
Starter pack memes are unironically based as they are probably the sharpest critiques of late capitalism.

>>13139744
I don't even like Proust but if you're a plotfag please commit suicide.

>>13139790
I looked over this, and the last girl I was intimate was exactly like this. Every single one of the boxed phrases were here stock reactions to anything, except for "don't kink shame me". It's deadening to look back and realize how her entire personality was this brand of capitalist marketing.

>>13139753
Him talking about how the church steeple is the maternal guardian of the village was comfy though.

>>13139700
Imagine being this fucking stupid

I hate you all. Anybody here tries to start some serious thread about some particular author and the answers are just baits and retards calling the author overrated, faggot, hack. And not, I'm not a Proust fanboy, I'm talking in general terms. At least try to explain why you consider the author shit.

Stop reading Proust

>>13139692
Proust read Schopenhauer. So did Tolstoy and Borges but it shows itself most in Proust. This is clear to anyone who has read World as Will and Idea and ISOLT. The high focus on physiognomy, genius, the suffering vacillation of life between pain and boredom, woman as other and high-impressed learner who lives in the moment, the intellect, the asides, the STYLE. They both write long works and are each characterized by their asides. In Proust this is obvious, and in Schopenhauer it's obvious if you read him. In the beginning of TWAWAR he is setting up the foundation of his philosophy but he can find no better place than to stick a chapter in on laughter and a long footnote that summarizes why physiognomy is important. Later on in the same work he has to stop himself three times (excluding the Voltaire epigraph) from going on to correct Kant. Same goes with his ART OF BEING RIGHT, a brilliant little piece that highlights dialectic and how people try to win arguments, but wherein Schopenhauer cannot refuse from going on a tangent on how people believe universal opinion and appeals to authority. Anyway... in Proust and Schopenhauer, lines are sometimes even the same imprint from one work to the other. Again, trust me, and if you've read the works it'll be obvious. In Vol. 2 page 30 of the modern library edition of Proust, Marcel says being in a place is far more beneficial than reading about a culture. Somewhere--I HATE that I can't remember where--Schopenhauer makes an analogy to a man who reads about a foreign culture rather than visiting it. I also hate to start on this example of comparison, because of travelling being close to squandering, but it's good that I start here to because it highlights that both P and S are honest like Montaigne in their views changing; i.e., they say what's good about travel, they say what's bad about travel. The entirety of Swann's Way and, really, the entirety of ISOLT as Marcel ends up following the same path, can be explained by Schopenhauer's the metaphysics of sexual love, where he details how love takes over man's life, and becomes his priority. PROUST: "the perpetual sacrifice which they are making of their comfort and of their practical interests has engendered a spiritual charm..." (and many more of this in the entire chapter. SCHOPENHAUER: (paraphrase): we often wonder how a brilliant man could have landed with someone like her. Proust and Schopenhauer are keen on the analogy and the aside and the insight on life. Schopenhauer: A novel will be of a high and noble order, the more it represents of inner, and the less it represents of outer, life.

>>13139753
He's criminally underrepresented in academia. And funny how you say there's nothing that great about him when in fact Shakespeare is the only writer who can match his quality

>>13139851
I've heard from a few people that Schop was a huge influence on Proust and I have WWR but haven't read it yet. From what I hear about Schopenhauer and his love of art it makes sense. WWR was also a favorite of Einstein and Hitler interestingly enough.

>>13139692
A genius. In Search of Lost Time is easily the most accurate depiction of the human condition. I love that you mention Montaigne- both he and Proust are the two best "companion" writers, meaning you feel like they are your friend more so than an artist, you get an extremely intimate connection with them from reading their works, more so than anyone else. This is the true purpose of art. They are truly the greatest minds of their times. Only fags will disagree.

Flaubert was cool too though

>>13139843
They can't because they're just trolling, Proust est sans absolument aucun contredit le meilleur écrivain français du vingtième siècle et tous ceux qui disent le contraire ne sont que des rigolos. Léon Daudet, la figure de proue de la littérature de droite, membre de l'action française, le laudait déjà comme un esprit supérieur qui savait pénétrer les tréfonds de l'âme humaine et exprimer avec clarté et précision ce qui se passe réellement a l'intérieur de nous. Je n'ai lu que Du côté de chez Swann et À l'ombre des jeunes filles en fleurs, et j'ai rarement vu une prose et une capacité d'analyse aussi fine. Tous les autres grands auteurs français (Balzac, Flaubert, Maupassant, Zola) passent pour des rédacteurs de dépêches journalistiques de faits divers a coté de lui.

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Sorry Pierre, I don't speak french

>>13139692
Pretty alright, reading swanns way and a little bit of within a budding grove.

I enjoy the idea and relatability of involuntary time travel through memory
His prose is defiantly a tougher one. Kind of hard to get used too.

>>13139851
Best paragraphed post yet? So Proust is Schoppy if he'd liked women for their company instead of their... more tangible qualities.

I've only read extracts of Schopenhauer, but it seems to me like his way of perceiving nature is quite different.

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*unparagraphed