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>you now remember your 12 year old traditionalism phase

>> No.13136256

>>13136250
12 year olds cannot truly be -ists, though.

>> No.13136262

>>13136250
Whatever belief system you’re currently using to allow yourself to feel like *now* you’re on the right track is just another phase. If you’ve gone through one phase you are likely someone who goes through them all throughout their life never holding genuine knowledge. Enjoy feeling superior to your past self I guess?

>> No.13136275

>>13136262
based perennial 12 year old

>> No.13136290

>>13136250
I suspect you're underage .
The big boom in traditionalism was 3 years ago

>> No.13136293

>>13136250
i was a radical liberal when i was 12

16 was when i was a traditionalist

>> No.13136298

>>13136250
Only the dead never changes opinion

>> No.13136299

>>13136250
When I was 16 I was a /pol/ tard, then I went to /lit/ to try to fuck with my English teacher by learning based and redpilled literature knowledge because a girl I liked thought he was sexy.

>> No.13136301

at 12 I was an edgy atheist

>> No.13136306
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>>13136250
>12
Gamer

>15
Marxist

>16
>Marxist Existentialist

>17
>Fascist

>18
Traditionalist

>22 (present age)
>re-learning philosophy from the beginning in order to re-evaluate my positions and gain a deeper net of wisdom. Leaning toward inner Traditionalism with a pragmatic Moldbug-Land synthesis. Vote for left wing parties.

>> No.13136309

>>13136250
are you kidding? 12 is when i dropped out of the Church, after confirmation. i didn't come back to her until mid-life.

this is not literature.

>> No.13136313

>>13136306
>he never studied shamanism or buddhism or primitive religions or greeks or judaism or christianity

truly, this place crawls. it's an ugly planet. a bug planet.

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13136321

>>13136313
That's sort of implied within 'Traditionalism', dolt.

>> No.13136329

>>13136306
>Vote for left wing parties.
Accelerationists may be the single most retarded, nihilistic faggots in existence.

>> No.13136335

>>13136321
no, "traditionalism" is a bunch of retarded old faggots like evola and guenon ramping on about their beliefs. seeing those things through their lens, not actually investigating the topics themselves. brainlet.

>> No.13136342

>>13136250
>always right wing because parents were right wing
12
>discover pol
15
>far right capitalist
18
>libertarian
19
>Realised I was never libertarian I just did it to hide the power level
20
>realised money is not the most important thing in an ideology but the social aspects and environment are
21
>hang out with university socialists and agree on a lot of topics
>back to nationalism socialism I guess but a bit more envrionmentalist
>hate populist alt right parties cause they don't know shit apart from 'let me say the n word reee'

Might vote green

>> No.13136348

>>13136313
what the FUCK i made this post earlier
>truly, this place crawls. it's an ugly planet. a bug planet.

and now amazon is recommending i should watch starship troopers

fuck man. we used to live in a society.

>> No.13136357

>>13136342
Hey I am in that libertarian mindset, what changed you?

>> No.13136360

>>13136329
Who the fuck am I going to vote for? Capitalist retards?

>> No.13136361

>>13136342
>has grandiose conceptions of his intellect
>ah yes I am far too intellectually superior to these petty right-wing parties even though I'm right-wing so I'll just vote for the communists instead
Either leftist trying to gaslight or a literal retard

>> No.13136372

>>13136360
A traditionalist could never justify voting for left-wing parties.
Why wouldn't you vote for socially conservative, economically left-wing parties? Unless you're in America I guess

>> No.13136379

>>13136372
>socially conservative, economically left-wing parties?
There's no such thing. I live in Australia.

>> No.13136382

I believe that a dick touched is a dick sucked so I never touch my dick

>> No.13136410

I have never met or seen anyone involved in any political party that wasn't dripping of sleaze. I would like to ban political youth parties all together, or preferably to have the entire lot euthanized.

I considered voting for the commies, but then it turns out they want more power for the party goons. I'll end up voting right, again, as they are the only ones that even mention the immigrant issue, even though I dislike all their other policies. Is it even possible to have political parties run by competent and qualified outsiders, real people who didn't slurp their way up the party ladder?

>> No.13136422
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>12 yo Marxist
>14 yo anarkkkiddie
>18 yo radlib
>25 yo technocrat
>30 yo ancom

>> No.13136432

>>13136256
This

>> No.13136436

>>13136262
That is until you figure out Hitler was right and the Jews are our masters.

>> No.13136439

>>13136250
13- White Nationalism, Fascism, Occult
14- Neopaganism
16- Stoicism
18- Hegel, Marx
19- Nietzsche
20- Hume, meth, sex with thicc black girls

>> No.13136454

>>13136250
wrong, the 12yo "rebel" phase is different in varying cultures.
for example, in russia and cis, since we're fed the leftovers of soviet propaganda (mostly by older relatives, but in schools too), we assume the opposite (naturally nazism and general edgy reich stuff) is kool
so i had a fash phase, so did most of my classmates

>> No.13136471

Nah chief 12 was nazibrony phase, just coming out of fedoratipping at 11 on Yahoo Answers

>> No.13136508

>didn't care about politics
>started gaining interest, and read a lot about it
>became disgusted by politics
>mfw I've become a reactionary and nothing can make me change my mind

>> No.13136534

>>13136342
imagine never transcending the political. yikes

>> No.13136572

>22 eternalist nietzhean anti-antinatalist

>> No.13136576

>>13136306
>voting
Don't do that bro

>> No.13136614

At 12 I was just discovering The Velvet Underground, Loveless just had just come out, remember seeing the video for Only Shallow while home sick from school, I was reading A Scanner Darkly at that time. I had no understanding of any of this stuff but it was far more exciting and interesting then having friends and being social.

>> No.13136820

>>13136250
>10
Nationalist
>12
Apolitical
>14
Liberitarian
>17
Conservative
>20-present
Anarchoprimitivism

>> No.13136828

People who care too much about politics are usually ugly faggots that I know for sure

>> No.13136850

>>13136250
>15
liberal
>16
traditionalist
>17
/pol/-tier conservative
>18
centrist
>20 (present day)
completely apolitical

I'm really glad I didn't go through an embarrassing communist or Marxist phase
Also,
>inb4 "no one can be truly apolitical"

>> No.13136864

>>13136850
Everyone these days goes through either a Marxist phase or a /pol/ phase.

While I've never agreed with /pol/ entirely, they did push me towards a conservative phase as a teen.

>> No.13136884

>12
cringe
>now
based

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>>13136250
>10
Democratic Christian
>13
Republican Agnostic
>14
Apolitical Agnostic
>15
Libertarian Agnostic
>16
Studying Greek
>17
Libertarian Atheist
>18-present
Anarcho-egoist

>> No.13136938

>>13136935
forgot to say I went through a small marxist phase during 16? but it was for like a few months at most

>> No.13136953

>>13136850
>completely apolitical
Funny way of spelling “I support the status quo”

>> No.13136970

>>13136953
fuck off commie

>> No.13136985
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>>13136250
23 - National Socialist.

>> No.13136994

>10 year old
Christian
>12 year old
Atheist
>14 year old
Communist
>17 year old
Feminist
>18 year old
Libertarian
>20 year old
Fascist
>21 year old
Egoist
>22 year old
Antinatalist

>> No.13137004

>>13136970
Thought you were apolitical anon

>> No.13137010

>>13136994
going through ideologies that wildly disparate is the mark of a brainlet who changes his opinions based on what he thinks everyone else around him thinks is cool

>> No.13137012

>>13137010
Hell, I won’t disagree. I think my only constant is my continued hatred of humanity.

>> No.13137015

>12
Classic liberal
>15
Conservative
>18
Liberal-nationalist
>23
National-socialist

Might vote for leftist parties if I become a civil servant

>> No.13137053

>>13137012
>10-22 years old
Edgelord

>> No.13137077

>12 years old - present
vehement racist

>> No.13137105

>10-18
Neomarxist communist
>18-21
Neoliberal globohomo technocrat
>21-22
Nazi
>22-23
Neoconservative
>23-now
Marxist

>> No.13137112

>>13137077
based

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Why would I vomit? Although I haven't been a traditionalist 12 years yet. Also, if I would not have "phases" I wouldn't have grown. Many ways my beliefs and values didn't even change, how I expressed them just changed with new insights and information. What I really learn from remembering was, I shouldn't box my self by trying to be something, not to be something. In the end the akwardness of teenage years came not from believing in something, but forcing yourself to be someone you were not.

>> No.13137253

>>13136935
do all libertarian's end up becoming anarchist?

>> No.13137263

>>13136335
Guénon and Evola are just orientalists.
Carpet dealers.

>> No.13137314 [DELETED] 

>2017
/b/
>2010
/new/

*short break*

>2012
/pol/

*a long break*

>2014
/pol/
>2015-2016
8/pol/
>2016
/polk/
>2017
various alternative chans
>2018
8/pol/
>2019
/doomer/

>May 2019
My doctor gave me anti-psychotic drugs. I am full of optimism now.

>> No.13137361

>moderate phase
>fascism etc phase
>anarchist phase
>stop caring phase
average political evolution.

>> No.13137375

I was a libertarian, became liberal during Bush II, remained liberal until around 2013, realized there is no such thing as a non-confessional state, and am now a Christian Democrat.
Y’all got into some weird shit.

>> No.13137435

>>13136250
When I was 17 I browsed /pol/ for the first time. I was nationalist, influenced by people like Ramzpaul. I also followed sites like Amren. I tried to convert friends to this ideology and managed one but the other held tightly to his libertarian beliefs. It wasn't until 2015 I realized how flawed and cringy this ideology was. Seriously, those amren convention vids are a cringefest and I can't imagine what they're like in person. I am still partly traditionalist but believe in more of a civic nationalism with restrictions.

>> No.13137460

12 - Libertarian

14 - AnCap

18 - Nietzsche

20 - Nationalist

23 - I don’t fucking know

>> No.13137463

I've always been somewhat of a traditionalist desu

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>>13136357
Not him but basically reading about woke capital on one hand (https://parallaxoptics.wordpress.com/2018/11/12/on-woke-capital/amp/)), which led me to Moldbug, and on the other reading Kaczynski.

>> No.13137493

12 - Multiculturalist
13 - Pro-LGBT
14 - Zionist
15 - BLMist
16 - Progressive
17 - Pro-Clinton
18 - Pro-Male Castration
19 - Globalist
20 - Open Borderist
21 - Socialist
22 - Communist
23 - Post-Modern Marxist

>> No.13137497
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12 - discover anime

14 - discover politics

14 1/2 - marxist

18 - wtf im gay how did that happen mustve been born this way

>> No.13137505

>>13137435
Is amren just ethnonationalism or what?

>> No.13137513

>12
Dawkins atheist
>14
Communist
>Also 14
Anarchist
>15
Neoliberal
>17
/pol/tard
>20 to present
don't know anymore, probably left-leaning

>> No.13137522
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>12
Depression
>13
Depression
>14
Depression
>15
Depression
>16
Depression
>17
Depression
>18
Intoxicated
>19
Self-discovery
>20
Responsibility
>21
Self-actualization
>22
Depression
>23
Depression

>> No.13137531

>>13136534
You can't 'transcend' the political. Of course, I don't believe in democracy but being in touch with what you believe in seems important.

>>13136357
When you look at degeneracy and realise those things aren't good for society at all. Libertarianism gives you the most opportunities but doesn't create the happiest society.

>> No.13137547

>>13137015
This is fairly similar to how I feel
This being me >>13136342

>> No.13137557

>>13137522
You’re a fucking loser

>> No.13137596

>>13137263
>Guénon
Hindu and Sufi initiate
>Evola
contact with John Woodroffe and Indian pandits
practiced Buddhist meditation
possible other secret masters

>> No.13137620

>>13137557
Affective states are truer than ideology, even if less articulable.

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>>13136306

>> No.13137646

This is one of the most subversive threads I've seen here for a while. The de-radicalization programming is already in process. Definite proof that 4chan is part of mk-ultra.

>>13137522
There is a board for you, but you have to find it yourself.

>> No.13137652

>>13136250
>12
Authoritarian

>15
Authoritarian

>16
Authoritarian

>17
Authoritarian

>18
Authoritarian

>25 (present age)
Libertarian

>> No.13137677

You guys actually read Nick Land and shit like that? Lmao I thought that was just a meme. Like really it's like studying tarot cards to read Gravity's Rainbow

>> No.13137681

>>13137677
>Like really it's like studying tarot cards to read Gravity's Rainbow
tell me more

>> No.13137704

I remember being a traditionalist for a while, but I didn't give it up for leftism or something. I just became completely blackpilled and gave up hope in everything. Even in a traditionalist society I'd be just as alienated, unhappy, and alone. No ideology can fix me or make me able to have relationships with other people. When I see people so invested in things like politics it makes me want to laugh and call them pathetic, but at the same time I envy those who are in a position to still care about things.

>> No.13137720

>>13136935
Based and despooked

>> No.13137722

>>13137681
The ending has tarot card and other occult references. Just read the damn thing and worry about that stuff the second time around. Pynchon is a 70s pot fiend in Mexico, not a secret Yogi hiding in a book.

>> No.13137724

>>13137646
>There is a board for you, but you have to find it yourself.
I know of what you speak and I will never go there—never! It is bad enough that I spend time here...this place is pit enough for me, thank you.

>> No.13137733

>>13136250
>12
Liberal

>14
/pol/tard

>16
Maoist

>18
Marxist

>21
Ancom

>> No.13137736

>>13137722
cheers cunt

>> No.13137741

>>13136250
>tfw it's been so long it isn't a phase anymore.
>tfw still have hope.

>> No.13137752

>>13137733
How's ancom different from normal communism?

>> No.13137759

>>13137752
It's more about the method used to achieve communism

>> No.13137763

>>13136293
So how's junior year going, bud?

>> No.13137771
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>remembering "SJW-hate" phase

>> No.13137778

>>13137759
Can you elaborate? Does it prescind of socialism, or what?

>> No.13137783

>>13137771
Ah yes my fellow centrist, I remember how I used to hate SJWs when anti-SJWs are actually just as bad.

>> No.13137805

>>13137778
Marxists believe that you need a transitional state to achieve communism (a stateless, classless society) in order to fully eliminate capitalism (and for a multitude of other reasons, depending on who you ask). Ancoms think that communism should be instantly enacted.

>> No.13137820
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>17
Atheist Libertarian
>20
Apolitical Christian

>> No.13137821

>teenager
Considered myself independent in the spirit of George Washington's "beware the spirit of party"
>18
Voted for the first time, considering each issue and candidate individually rather than blindly following the party line. Looked at the ballot after I finished and saw that I voted straight Republican anyway. Accepted conservatism into my heart.
>21
Time spent around the poor convinced me of the evils of welfare. Move from "right" to "far right". Everybody needs Jesus.
>25
Righter, traditionalister, Christianer than ever.

>> No.13138052

>>13137821
you sound dumb

>> No.13138223

>>13137821
>Voted for the first time, considering each issue and candidate individually rather than blindly following the party line.
Lol.

>> No.13138322

>>13137505
Yeah. I get attitude comes from genetics that comes from race, but they're obsessed to the point of absurdity. They don't realize race is a factor but not the end of it all. The conventions are an awkward boomer fest.

>> No.13138355

>16
Liberal. Just beginning to care about politics. Pretty much get all my news from The Daily Show and Colbert Report. Christian but starting to question my religion. Gradually developing a more secular worldview.

>18-25
Broadly left-wing, sympathetic to socialism, or at least some form of social democracy. I'm now an atheist. Watch and read actual news. Follow politics more closely. Find most leftists annoying, hypocritical, and weirdly classist, even though I agree with them on almost across the board on political issues.

>25-28
Pessimist, sympathetic to antinatalism. Increasingly apolitical. Stop following politics closely. Everything seems pointless. Weirdly more open to conservative viewpoints as a consequence of pessimism.

>28-30
Nihilist. Increasingly isolated from society. No coherent ideology. Privately toy with /pol/-style views. Read a bunch of taboo stuff about race and gender. Skeptical of mass immigration and multiculturalism. Skeptical of feminism. Don't really care, though. Know deep down all this far-right stuff is a product of alienation/isolation and frustration with my life.

>30
Lose all interest in far-right stuff, which I was never all in with anyway (thank God I was never dumb enough to talk about this with anyone!) Politically, more or less where I was at 18-25, though a bit better informed. Only care about economic issues. Sympathetic to socialism again, or a least some form of social democracy. Fluctuate between atheism and agnosticism. Interested in religion, reading the Bible and a bunch of Hindu and Buddhist stuff. Still skeptical of open borders, though more from a labor and democratic/sovereignty perspective, but don't really care. Generally try not to worry about things I can't change. Dislike "centrists"/neoliberals/etc. but at the same time see much of the "far-right" and "far-left" as LARPers, middle/upper class bandwagoners, grifters, and opportunists, as well as some genuinely sick people pursuing their slap-dash aims out of a sublimated desire for power and revenge. Not at all optimistic about the future. Suspect global warming will kill us or we'll all live in some hellish cyberpunk dystopia, only with "woke" corporate overlords. Will probably kill myself sometime in the next 5-10 years.

>> No.13138436

>12
Just a kid, man

>15
Objectivist (i know i know)

>18-25
Apolitical ambitious go-getter

>25-30
Cuckservative

>30-32
Impassioned idealistic alt-righter (i know i know). This close to going to fucking rallies and whatnot

>33 (now)
Disillusioned blackpilled pessimistic nihilist, tempered with a bit of epicureanism (everything is absurd and shitty, nothing really matters, but might as well be as comfy as possible)

>> No.13138457

>>13136422
based except for technocrat

>> No.13138475

>>13136250
[religion I was born into] GOOD
[other religion] BAD

>> No.13138501
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>all of these brainlets following obvious ebb and flow currents of ideology
>wow i was a marxist because i listened to red army choir when i was younger like millions of other retarded children but then i totally big brained my way out of that
>[and/or version: because i was a psued who read 2 books outside of the richard dawkins i was already consuming inbetween watching the amazing atheist]
>wow i was a libertarian because ron paul memes but then i totally big brained my way out of that
>[and/or version: because i read the introduction to a couple of austrian economics books and browsed post-/new/ /pol/]
>wow i was alt right because of /pol/ and 4channel , tranny/jew/nigger memes, and being aware of pc culture off of 4channel but then i totally big brained my way out of that
>now I'm some sort of centrist/nihilist/apolitical because I've totally gotten over it all with my big, fat, vein-bulbous brain

kill yourselves you flippant niggers

>> No.13138506

>>13137724
>>13137646
what board? /r9k/? /adv/? /trash/?

>> No.13138519

>>13138501
My fucking sides

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>13
Communist. I read a lot of Donald Duck comics and saw Scrooge as capitalist pig abusing the proletariat Donald.
Also read a lot about Che Guevara and Lenin.

>16
Lmao, fuck the SJW's, I'm le rational skeptic now.
Oooh, these meds make me feel funny in the head.

>17
Oh shit I'm crazy in the coconut.
Oh shit, maybe I'm a tranny?
Oh shit, Trump won the election? BASED!
Oh shit, is that a dildo up my ass?
Oh shit, Brexit happened? BASED!
Oh shit, I just earned a shit ton of money by degrading myself online for the pleasure of neckbeards? BAS....wait...


>18
Well that wasn't it chief.
Well, what the fuck?
How much does a noose cost anyway?
Probably shouldn't worry about it, who's this Moldbug guy?
And who the fuck is Pickle Nick?

>19
Just leave me alone.
I'm running in the woods at night.

>20
Stop it.
I don't wanna do that.

>21
It don't matter, none of this matters.
Heidegger is pretty cool I guess.

>> No.13138528

Idk where im at now, maybe some kind of conservative socialist who thinks nationstates still make sense overall.

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>10-14 conservative, christian
>15-18 libertarian, atheist
>19-23 conservative, agnostic
>24 conservative, mystic

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TRADITIONALISM IS ETERNAL

>> No.13138547

>>13138501
>now I'm some sort of centrist/nihilist/apolitical because I've totally gotten over it all with my big, fat, vein-bulbous brain
More like I'm just depressed and don't care anymore.

>> No.13138551

>>13138542
You can only find the true mystics on anime porn forums.

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>>13138551
and that's a good thing

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>>13138547
nut up you gay cunt life is an eternal battlefield of everything

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>>13136382
Based as f*ck.

Libtards BTFO!

>> No.13138570

>>13137805
So, communists want anarchy and anarchists want communism.

>> No.13138571

Who else Integralist/True Centrist?

>> No.13138578 [DELETED] 

>>13138556
It's not good or bad. It doesn't matter what I do.

>> No.13138585

>>13138557
No thanks. If it's a battle then I surrender.

>> No.13138610

I've always been a support oft socialist democracy, but nowadays I hardly even read the news anymore, it's too depressing.

So far, removing most politics from my life has made it better.

>> No.13138676

>>13138571
>But I’m a man
Your wife legally has to be faithful and a good mother.
>But I’m a woman
Your husband legally has to be faithful and a good husband.
>But I’m black
Whites legally have to be helpful in time of need
>But I’m white
Minorities legally to be respectful.
>But I’m gay
You are legally protected from AIDS
>But I’m trans
You legally get to keep your dick
>But I’m Jewish/Muslim
You legally get to keep your holidays, cemeteries, places of worship and festivals.
>But I’m atheist/communist/capitalist
You legally get a free tour of the bottom of a lake.

It’s perfect!

>> No.13138683

>>13136250
lol who cares what you call yourself if all you'll ever do is post about it to get (You)s from people who put themselves in other boxes?

>> No.13138801

>>13136250
Who barfs into a special bowl? Stupid photostocks.

>> No.13138898
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>15
conservative
>17
right libertarian
>19
left anarchist
>21
nietzschean
>23
egoist

>> No.13138924

>>13138898
who goes from Nietzsche to stirner?

>> No.13138925

>12
Gamer
>15
Milquetoast conservative
>first half of being 16
Full on Nazi
>second half of being 16
Stopped caring about politics

>now (20)
Still don’t care about politics at all

>> No.13138932

>>13138501
Speak for yourself ultranigger, I am a red blooded freedom loving AMERICAN man and I pray to the founding fathers every night before lunch and bed.

>> No.13138986

>>13138544
Holy based, I never knew Guenon was so smart. Where do I start with him

>> No.13138992

>>13136306
So you went back into becoming retarded? Should have stayed at fascist/traditionalist

>> No.13139082

>>13137435
So you're just a cuckservative now?

>> No.13139121
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13139121

>As far back as I can remember
STOP CUSSING
STOP DATING GIRLS THAT’S BAD
WHY DO PEOPLE DO BAD THINGS?????
WHY DON’T YOU LISTEN TO THE TEACHER???
WHY DON’T PEOPLE FOLLOW ORDERS?
>present
Ecclesiarchy, monarchy, classical fascism, anything that prompts authority— there will never be perfect human governance, however, since the kingdom of God is not of this Earth. If there be despots, let It happen, pray for the conversion of said despot and train your soul in hardship. Catholic social teaching as applied in authoritarian states is attractive to me. An ever growing sensation to grow further in the faith and excel in the virtues is something I will continue in for the rest of my life.

>tl;dr I just want to be a good celibate catholic boy and want to the government to encourage the same in others

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>>13138986
This chart's pretty good, start with his first book, it only gets into Hinduism in the last 3rd and most of it is him just explaining a bunch of the concepts that he references in his later books. Also, I'd add that 'Man and his Becoming According to the Vedanta' is important to his thought and should be read before his later works like 'Symbolism of the Cross, 'Multiple States' 'Sacred Science' etc even though the chart doesn't say so.

>> No.13139155

>>13139082
Is having a civic nationalist platform which will inevitably result in a mostly homogeneous nation a cuckservative?

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Why is everyone itt either an NPC idealogue or an edgy nihilist?
I thought /lit/ was better than this.

>> No.13139163

>>13136256
neither can most of this board

>> No.13139174

>>13139162
>implying NPC’s are ideaologues and not just people who conform to whatever popular idea of the time

>> No.13139191

>>13136250
The only thing worse than a communist is a Nihilist.

>> No.13139202

>>13136250
Hey, at least you studied and changed

>> No.13139208

>15
liberal
>16
left-anarchist
>17
L/ACC
>18
Anarcho-transhumanist

>> No.13139218

>>13139208
you literally got cringier

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At 12, i was mainly occupied with thinking about cute guys and how to seduce them.

>> No.13139397

>>13139242
Show bob n vegan pls

>> No.13139414

>>13139242
If you are a guy then this isn't good but if you are a girl this is better.

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>>13139414
worried you might get seduced?

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>>13139521

>> No.13139553

>>13136250
When I was a kid I thought religion and traditions were dumb.
Now I realize it was just Protestantism that was dumb.

I used to think feminism made sense, then I actually had sex and spent time with women.

Traditions aren't stupid because our ancestors weren't stupid. They were intelligent, thoughtful people just like us.

>> No.13139582

>>13137646
>deradicalization
way to misread the current global trends

>> No.13139583

I was going through my communist phase at 12

>> No.13139597

>>13138524
based mentally-ill anon

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>>13136250
>12
Anarchist
>15
Fascist larper
>17
Classical liberal
>18, now
I don't know what I'm anymore

>> No.13139607

>>13139599
A child.

>> No.13139613

>>13139599
So you were raised in a single mother household?

>> No.13139616

>>13138585
swine, I have no sympathy for those who are deluded to themselves and hide behind a veil of honesty to others.

>> No.13139634

>>13139553
>Traditions aren't stupid because our ancestors weren't stupid. They were intelligent, thoughtful people just like us.
The average IQ in pre-industrial times would be 70ish ie borderline retard, per Flynn effect, and lets not get started with the massive amounts of magical thinking that even the smart guys used all the time.

>> No.13139637

>>13139613
bingo

>> No.13139666

>>13139637
Want a hug fren?

>> No.13139683

>>13139666
I want a hug, Satan.
I ran out of quetiapine and I can't get any fucking sleep.
And I need to go see my paternal grandmother early tomorrow!
Fuck!

>> No.13139872

I don't want to think anymore.

>> No.13139890

>12: Neo-liberal
>14: Vague libertarianism
>16: Marxist
>Now: No real ideology

>> No.13139897

you guys are fags
belief system and ideology isnt a personality

>> No.13139910

>>13136250
i was an anarchist when i was 12

>> No.13139912

>>13139683
Description, Quetiapine, sold under the trade name Seroquel among others, is an atypical antipsychotic used for the treatment of schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and major depressive disorder. Although not recommended, it is also used as a sleep aid due to its sedating effect. It is taken by mouth.
Formula: C21H25N3O2S
Can I deliver this to you, and then give you the hug?

>> No.13139920

>>13136360
>Capitalist retards?
Aren't Moldbug and Land super pro capitalist? I don't recommend voting for capitalist retards by the way, not that you really have an option if you are to vote at all.

>> No.13139927

>>13139912
Yes, please.
I'm lonely.

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>>13139927
Alright buddy, love you fren

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>>13139935

>> No.13140099

>-16
consumerist
>17
social liberal
>21
social conservative, economic liberal
>28
collectivist soc dem

>> No.13140155

>23
Don't know anything about politics

>> No.13140167

>>13139897
Have you figured out why this board is shit yet?

>> No.13140174

>>13139945
Stay with me pal

>> No.13140190

>>13137004
not me, some other retard responding to you

>> No.13140202

>>13136348
Hey bro idk if you'll see this but you are awake enough that I'd be seriously interested in making an irl connection with you. Respond to this and I'll send a throwaway email. I posted on here about a "" "conspiracy" "" with evidence and I started getting ads on Facebook for schizophrenia treatment.

>> No.13140209

>>13136250
>be me
>18
>absolute beta cuck in uni
>no friends
>girls arent even a thing
>"volcell"
>nofap
>"people that masturbate are cumbrains"
>anti-natalist pessimist
>super nice to everybody
>absolutely selfless
Graduate school rolls around...
>someone post a stirner meme
>fuck it
>buy The Ego and its Own
>read it
>
>holy shit
>fuck everybody I need to focus on my self
>start to study german to read original edition while already reading the superior THE UNIQUE AND ITS PROPERTY EDITION
>Start not giving a fuck about women and unexpectedly this is what gets me a gf
>get inv to priv uni study group
>get friends
>no longer virgin or beta
>masturbate whenever the fuck I want because nobody tells me how to live my life and i'm the only one that can and will control it
>no longer selfless become absolute egotist asshole
>actually get more friends and gifts during holiday seasons
>26 and I already have my thesis defense coming up way ahead everyone else
later virgins

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>>13140209
forgot pic

>> No.13140234

>>13137375
>Christian
>Democrat
more weird than rest of thread

>> No.13140252

>>13136348
>>13140202
And sorry for typing like a retard. I'm phone posting. Don't let that be the reason you choose not to reach out starshiptrooperanon

>> No.13140257

>>13140167
Why is it being subverted or is it just summer? I don't recall previous summers being like this.

>> No.13140290

>>13140257
More people are using 4chan, these people are usually the antithesis of hobbyists and want all of their info spoon-fed, memeable, and not well known. They want the benefits of being a fucking loser without putting in the work. You've also probably grown up since you started coming here, this is a good thing.

>> No.13140291

>14
edgy anarchist
>16
slight /pol/ phase, never connected with me though
>17-21
liberal
>21-23
radical centrist

>> No.13140318

>10
Liberal Catholic
>14
Conservative Catholic
>18
Mystic Catholic
>24
SSPV-excommunicant Feenyist, radical Byzantine rite Traditionalist Eastern Catholic

>> No.13140322

>>13136256
They can more than adults, because their investment in 'politics' comes more from an empathetic intuition than a proxy for various personal shortcomings

>> No.13140338

>>13140291
> radical centrist
This is a joke, right?

>> No.13140857

>childhood
went to church because my parents made me go; didn't really get it
read fantasy novels and sci fi series
>adolescence
still went to church because me parents made me go, but had a closeted agnostic moral relativist phase
read tumblr tier 'deep' philosophy and poetry and screencapped r9k posts
>adulthood
go to church of my own free will
read the bible, christian mystic works, and a lot of yeats

>> No.13140943

>>13139634
flynn effect is a fucking meme and explained by shitter IQ tests early on (making them harder, usually in the form of needing specific knowledge) and current (making them easier)

>> No.13141058

>>13136850
>completely apolitical
>thinks its embarrassing to be a marxist
>inb4 is literal truth and was just confirmed in post

>> No.13141075

>0
Monarchist
>Present
Monarchist

>> No.13141083

>>13140234
he’s probably German desu

>> No.13141087

>10
raised catholic but loose deist, never really thought about other social/philosophical issues
>14
stephen colbert tier atheist, more in line of "muh freedom and science" than internalized beliefs. As even at this time while I allowed it for others, I myself found sexual degeneracy (as in even having sex with more than one partner in a lifetime, let alone abortion) as well as the lives the stoners at school lived an anathema.

>24
unironic traditionalist school, as in had come to similar conclusions on my own time before hearing of any of the perennial philosophers. I have no interest in fun, and am filled with contempt for modernity. I don't even care if i'm better suited for the world as it is than as it ought to be.

>> No.13141096

>>13141087
I should clarify (raised catholic) meant we went to church for Christmas and Easter and otherwise never talked about God.

I have some cozy memories of sleepovers talking with my friends about the nature of God. Honestly seems surreal we actually did that when xbox exists. We even talked about the nature of love a bit.

>> No.13141145

>>13139121
Sounds like a sick way of life, yours

>> No.13141174

>>13136306
>pragmatic Moldbug-Land synthesis.
>Vote for left wing parties.

>> No.13141181

>>13141174
Moldbug actually advocates voting for left wing parties at one point, I forget where. calls it 'passivism'. Basic idea being that the Left are the ruling class, and rebelling against the ruling class is itself seditious leftist behavior, so you should just go with the flow.

I believe he was being somewhat ironic, but since he thinks it is impossible to achieve a reactionary society through democratic politics, it does make no sense to vote right.

>> No.13141228

>>13141181
Who do you vote for? Labor? Greens?

>> No.13141253

>>13141181
Wouldn't the better position be to just vote for whoever is currently in power? Democracy works by rapidly changing out politicians and parties as a way of "venting" the frustration and anger that naturally builds form the system fucking its ruled populace. The less confident people are that the politician they hate will leave office soon the more they will start to consider alternative solutions to their current predicament.

>> No.13141310

>>13138924
someone who'd rather eat drink and be merry than spend a lifetime agonizing over silly and unobtainable ideals of heroism

>> No.13141321

>>13141310
Gurls just wanna have funXD

>> No.13141325

>>13141310
so instead unattainable ideas of heroism to unattainable ideals of the "union of egoist"

>> No.13141327

>>13136250
Fuck off, I never sank that deep. At worst I was a conservative leaning centrist at 12-14.

>> No.13141364

>>13141310
neetchy is an extension to stirner its very obvious they both had similar ideas and if you read Stirner's critics or any of his early article writings you can tell he was very "Will to Powerish" and its obvious The Unique and its Property was a basis for his thought, a foundation. Yes, neetchy and stirner vary but their is no doubt if stirner would have lived longer he would've have wrote something akin to "The Will to Power". In Germany all academics praise neetch but they do not underestimate the influence Stirner had on them. All the quite different initially its very obvious the similarity between the two and its most proper to go from Stirner to Neetchy or even neetchy,stirner and back to neetchy again. Sadly, with very few writings left as Stirner's bibliography their are very few to turn to and less to compare

>> No.13141397

>>13140322
Literally this, it quite explains why I have leaned leftist at 12. Only later did it overlap with my prospect of being a NEET.

>> No.13141429

>>13141321
that's exactly right. i see nothing wrong with that, and it's a good song to boot.

>>13141325
that's not an unobtainable ideal, that's a perspective on the profitability of the egoist's involvement in a social contract.

>>13141364
>their is no doubt if stirner would have lived longer he would've have wrote something akin to "The Will to Power".
i doubt it. the will to power is a spook made obsolete by the free intercourse of the egoist. he also essentially announces his retirement from writing philosophy in part 3.

>> No.13141439

>>13136250
>12
Atheist, but deeply scared of death
>16
r9k incel shit, no real ideology outside of anti sjw
>17
/lit/ elitism and edgy antisocial depressive beliefs
>18
Briefly leftist because of twitter; manage to meme myself into some sort of deist belief to assuage fears of death
>19
Briefly right wing for the same reason
>21
Back here after taking a break from internet communities for a while, no ideology, just moral relativism/pragmatism, still holding onto pseudo-religious beliefs as much as I can.

Feels like I've grown up for the most part, although maybe I'll look back at myself now and think I wasn't any wiser than before. I still have sympathies towards some ideologies over others, but I don't see any of them as being provably "right". Ideological fervor always exists for the purpose of filling a hole in your life, so I'm attempting to actually live a life now, and trying to do things instead of just having opinions on them and getting validation from convincing myself I have the right opinion.

>>13136820
Do you really think you genuinely want to live a primitive life? Sincerely asking, I don't get how people can say this with a straight face, but if you have a legitimate reason I'd be interested to hear it.

>>13136953
That's the practical effect of being apolitical, but the practical effect of people who post about politics all the time and don't bring about any material change in the world is so negligible as to be essentially supporting the status quo too.

>>13138355
I feel basically the same, especially the interest in various religions and the belief in imminent climate apocalypse. Don't have any desire to kms but I guess I might have time over the next decade to get bored of everything that interests me.

>> No.13141451

>5
contrarian republican (democrat parents)
>8
typical liberal
>12
social democrat
>14
socialist
>>>/pol/
>15
mutualist
>16
minarchist
libertartian
ancap
>17
fascist
national socialist
reactionary
back to libertarianism after the summer
>18
nihilist
>19
egoist
>20
absurdist
>21
apathetic
>22
YOLO
>23 - now
Nietzsche and chill

>> No.13141487

>>13136379
>What is the Katter australian party

>> No.13141526

>>13137652
cringe and bluepilled

>> No.13141598

>>13141439
>Feels like I've grown up for the most part, although maybe I'll look back at myself now and think I wasn't any wiser than before. I still have sympathies towards some ideologies over others, but I don't see any of them as being provably "right". Ideological fervor always exists for the purpose of filling a hole in your life, so I'm attempting to actually live a life now, and trying to do things instead of just having opinions on them and getting validation from convincing myself I have the right opinion.
based

also me

>> No.13142464

I was just a dumb kid at 12, raised religious but apathetic towards it
At 15 I've proclaimed myself a liberal
At 18 a conservative
At 22 a socialist
>politics

>> No.13142490

>>13136250
>at 12 I first became a nazi for a few months, drawings swastikas everywhere
>at 13 I became a hardcore Muslim, begged my parents to drop out of school because I did not want to mix with infidels and women
>at 15 I became a godless hedonistic anarchist and started doing drugs
>at 17 I thought the only thing that mattered in life was art and beauty because I started reading Nabokov.
>23 now, trying not to kill myself

>> No.13142543 [DELETED] 

>>13136422
Ancoms are walking contradictions