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how different would the chart be if men wore makeup?

>>13119487
It wouldn't. The human female is hypergamous. That is a biological fact. The sexual revolution gave them "selector" status and now men have to bear the consequences of their entitlement. The data is quite clear, yet normies will put the blame on the individual man and tell him "just fix yourself brah"

>>13119502
>now men have to bear the consequences of their entitlement
It's called monogamy and is has worked for millenia before the "sexual liberation" came and ruined everything.

>>13119482
>okcupid
irrelevant and hence discarded

>>13119512
nope, going back as far as prehistory and even preagriculture, often less than 20% of human males passed on their genes, the eternal chad is a fact of reality like the a breathing woman is a thotting one

*tip*

Incels are to distracted by their technological tooks to really do anything. I get laid but THOTS need pateolling asap

>>13119529

>>13119512
The only solution I see is to bring women under subjugation or even enslave them all. We could have a colony of girlslaves living relatively happy lives segregated from the rest of society and used for sex when needed. This would not be oppression, they could have nice houses and they could read and knit and gossip or whatever they like to do. Just they won't be able to perpetuate the gruesome injustice of chad-chasing anymore.

>>13119557

>>13119517
>women on OKCupid suddenly drop their standards when they're in a real life situation
>women on OKcupid are not a representative sample of the young mate-seeking female population

>>13119502
>you can't fix urself brah t-there's no hope so its not even worth trying
>fucking wimin why cant dey sex me even if im a massive pussy that gives up before even attempting
cringe

>>13119557

>>13119579
The data is quite clear. womens standards are too high and unrealistic.

>>13119570
>women on OKcupid are not a representative sample of the young mate-seeking female population
nope

>>13119604
Strange. An app populated by and specifically designed for young people who want to find dates does is not representative of young people who want to find dates. Tell me, then, why are men having less sex than women on average? Why does virtually every anthropologist agree that the female is hypergamous?

>>13119602
It's a fucking dating app. Of course they'll have high expectations. It's not representative of real life. Ever notice how in most relationships, the settler is the woman?

>>13119602
>muh data
jesus you're pathetic, bro... no shit you can't get laid you're the type of dude that lets infographics decide his life for him. Sad!

>A generation of women who have uncritcally bought in to the marketing campaigns of several industries meets a generation of men set up to fail by the previous generations

You won't believe what happened next!

>>13119623
>Strange
nope

>>13119512
monogamy is an egalitarian disgenic aberration, the true logical and natural solution is polygamy and forced conscription for incels

>>13119502
>Only 5% of adult men can't get laid
>It's not their fault

>>13119482
When will idiots on the internet realize that:
1. Self-report studies are not behavioral studies
2. Online polls are completely non-representative.

>>13119502
>tell him "just fix yourself brah"
Women don't make long-term investments in mate-selection; they lag behind human societal development by millenia, or more if we let them.
Fixing yourself, aka. getting a job and money, actually works. Now, if you want love, being a deadbeat is a sure method of testing whether or not they have any for you.

>>13119851
Well, 5% does sound like the number of absolute genetic waste.

The sexual preferences of women who are not ready willing and able to raise kids is irrelevant.

>>13119877
not a poll. it's data pulled from okcupid servers, free market at work, difficult to find any better evidence than this

>>13119901
It may ruin their lives.
It may lead to a cats vs dogs fight online.

>>13119557
based

>>13119908
OkCupid is, first and foremost, a polling service. This data is self-report. If you examine human behavior in absence of dating apps, this pattern disappears. Get off the internet.

>>13119851
It's closer to 1/3

>>13119930
God, I am so fucking sick of retarded 90 IQ retail workers like you abusing the gift of literacy.

You are not a fucking expert. That is EXCELLENT quality data. Short of a deep brain tissue probe and a research team of 500 with a 20-year grant there is ZERO way to better gauge human attractivity besides self reporting in a natural non-observer-biased environment.

>>13119626
>>13119635
If there's not a problem with women at large, and it's just that the users of this app are not representative of reality, then how come the statistics for men seem to reflect reality?

>>13119482
My only regret in life is not having been born after the waifu-bot revolution.

>>13119930
>human behavior in the absence of dating apps... this pattern disappears
Wrong

>>13119482
Who else here /27%/?

>>13120507
Me

>>13120507
>>13120521
Comrades

>>13120474

I'm 3 weeks away from being a statistic on a bar chart, fucking hell

>>13120558

>bar chart

Line graph*, you knoew what I meant

>>13120558
Mods?

>>13120558
I'm 4 years past. I'm decent enough to probably get effort laid but not decent enough attract a quality mate and raise a family. So screw it.

>muh 80% of wimin for 20% of males
if this were true we would have had a beta uprising on a scale that has not been seen before. It's bullshit and you know it.

>>13120589
Absolutely having a laugh at the lad that thinks uprisings are possible in today's world

>>13120589
Well, most men believe they're not getting as much sex as they want to. Husbands who receive starfish sex from their wives once a year are short of being Incels.

>>13120521
Don't aim up. Aim straight.

>>13119851
The number of virgin young men in the US increased from 18% to 28% in 10 years. It's hard to believe that 18% of men are unfuckable, let alone 28%.

>>13119482
Sorry if I come across an idiot or a feminist, but how exactly is female "empowerment" responsible for this?

>>13120612
Wtf is the reason? Is actually that theyre too busy playing fortnite or is that a meme?

>>13120622
If women were subjugated and forced into sexual slavery then none of this would be happening.

>>13120622
It's what happens when the pendulum swings the other way and the gatekeepers of sex are made to feel like they're better than their counterparts for having been subjugated for some time

>can't even get a gf
>think they're capable of launching a revolution
Lmao. If you don't even have the basic social skills to get a date, how do expect to inspire followers?

>>13120596
What do you even mean? You think if 80% of the male population #roseup they wouldn't absolutely overwhelm the 20? You think that somehow modern technology would prevent this shit? Please. A plantation can't function if they kill off all the slaves. A factory can't function if they fire all the workers and a society can't function if the majority refuses to participate in, or worse actively fights against it. It would have to reform or collapse.

>>13120631
They wouldn't mind if the slave owners were Chads.

>>13120666

>>13120624
A mix of >>13120642 and >>13119637 and >>13119602 as well as the fact that male sexuality is completely demonized to the point where even approaching someone can leave you ostracized from society, which compels men to not even try in the first place.

>>13120650
This is the entire point, faggo. The r9k fags are saying that 80/20 is some sort of set RULE that is unavoidable and unchangeable when the fact of the matter is that they are too timid and weak to approach and fix their own flaws and instead fall into a pit of defeatism, where they use some retarded pseudo scientific studies to push their agenda and neglect the actual problem, themselves.

>>13120662
Well first of all, I don't think anywhere near 80% of the male population thinks there's anything wrong with the status quo. They'll call you a virgin/incel for suggesting women have an inflated view of themselves (even when faced with the data) and tell you to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and take a shower. Kinda hard to start a revolution with people like that.

>>13120666
nice numbers bruh

>>13120642
No, but seriously, there must be someone for everyone, right? There must be some girls willing to date these guys. Or do they all expect a Natalie Portman?

>>13120680
That's because nowhere near to 80% of the male population has trouble getting laid. Outside from a few desperate white knights people would start losing in. The majority of men could NOT by any stretch of the imagination endure long term (involuntary) celibacy and actively continue to support the status quo.

>>13120677
Most people don't have the wherewithal to afford plastic surgery. You can't expect girls to like if you have a bare minimum income. If you're attractive, they're willing to make an exception however- there's plenty of homeless slobs who do nothing but smoke weed and play videogames, while leeching off their girlfriends.

>>13120662
If you too beta to get a gf you too beta to rise up, and even if you did, we'd kick your ass

>>13120697
Even if there are, the location's the problem. Maybe there are some girls who would be happy to date Incels/Foreve Aloners/TFL or whatever they call themselves. But they just don't live in their country, specifically their city. And yes, men who no girl wants to date probably exist too, they're an outlier, but they are real.

>>13120700
Plenty of dudes go through dry spells, even the ones you think are chads. The difference is they didn't end up hating women and eventually they got laid again

>>13120666
don't let anyone tell you this is NOT a great post

>>13120612
why is this? is it because there are so many things to fill our time with now instead of sex?

>>13120700
Even just one fling a year would be enough to delude most men into thinking they've still got it and women aren't all pining for the best of the best while only paying attention to the average man once their value drops or they're ready to "settle down"

>>13120671
>where even approaching someone can leave you ostracized from society, which compels men to not even try in the first place.

This is the fantasy your fear of failure has created for yourself. How the fuck do you think people meet up anyway? You’re so afraid of asking a girl out, you created this entire narrative in order to justify your inertia.

>>13120707
>we
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>>13120717
Yeah... case in point...as i'm saying 80/20 is bullshit because most dudes get laid at least occasionally if they bother to try

>>13120717
Inconsistent casual sex gets old after awhile especially after you age some, thats where the beta settling starts happening and causes shit parents who probably produce most incels

>>13120731
>How the fuck do you think people meet up anyway?
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/
Stop dating yourself geezer, our generation of men don't linger around a bar for an hour hunting for women until they can get one anymore. Even some women think it's awkward to just walk up to someone and make a move on them

>>13120631
So you really think those relationships would be happy though. Slaves aren’t necessarily known for having a high opinion of their masters. That kind of environment is rife for bitterness and domestic abuse.

You also need to remember that emancipation is the natural progression of economic security.

>>13120751
I thought they're being sarcastic.

>>13120748
Yeah, because that IS weird. Just walkinng up to a random girl you dont know and trying to intiate romantkc contact. Men in our generation dont even want that. There’s hundreds of considerably more appropriate circumstances for such an initiation.

>>13119626
fucking lmao at this much amount of cope

also Manifesto of the Incel Intellectuals

>>13120589
There's way too much porn and video games going around that sedate these men. But thankfully it looks like their illusions are wearing off

>>13120738
I found a collection of books from my mother on how to attract a guy. She was highlighting specific passages, putting exclamation marks near them. No wonder I'm fucking autistic. My dad didn't have much romantic success either, when I asked them if they had any relationships prior to meeting each other, they went nope. Fucking kill me. My parents were both semi-Incels.

>>13120763
>There’s hundreds of considerably more appropriate circumstances for such an initiation.
Such as? The group of common friends shit doesn't work because there's a good chance you end up alienating everyone if you get rejected

>>13120777
Mind sharing some of those passages?

>>13120777
>My dad didn't have much romantic success either, when I asked them if they had any relationships prior to meeting each other, they went nope. Fucking kill me. My parents were both semi-Incels.
oh god this is me. and i just found out recently that both my parents are unattractive, 4/10 on the scale. and they were each other's first and only 1 of 2 partners in their entire life, despite being 60 years old.

>>13120778
>there's a good chance you end up alienating everyone if you get rejected
That’s self-perpetuated
There’s no reason why this has to happen unless you’re autistic about getting rejected.

>>13119512
As a married man with a wife that’s significantly more attractive than I am, you guys need to work on your social skills.

Is There Anything Good About Men?, Baumeister
The Manipulated Man, Vilar
Sex and Character, Weininger
Self-Made Man, Vincent
Vindication of the Rights of Women, Wollstonecraft
Sexual Personae, Paglia

>>13120793
>no reason why this has to happen unless you’re autistic about getting rejected.
What happens when you get rejected by the first person but then try for the second?
You're deluded if don't think women talk about that shit in their group chat.
You don't have to be a spaz for the atmosphere of the group to sour because you try for every girl.

>>13120797
autism kinda precludes any kind of social skills, anon. i mean genuine autism.

>>13120804
>What happens when you get rejected by the first person but then try for the second?
Depends, did you try the day after or months after? The latter is socially acceptable. The former lets other know you’re desperate which is undesirable.
>You're deluded if don't think women talk about that shit in their group chat.
I wonder, what does your perveted narrative make you think they talk about? What do they say? “Hehe, stacy, you heard anon asked me out? He’s such a fucking loser, i bet he has a small peepee too, hehehehe.”?
If you’re this afraud, maybe you shouldn’t hang out with girls at all and consider going gay. This fear is unhealthy and only perpetuates your lonliness.

>>13119602
Implying incels also don't have unrealistic standards for women. Do you think the bottom 5% of men are pursuing the bottom 5% of women? No, they are fantasizing about people out of their league and paying hundreds of dollars a month to Patreon thots. If you aren't willing to improve yourself and move up the hierarchy, then you have to settle with what's appropriate for your current position. Plenty of genetically inferior men do settle, but of course we hear the vocal minority who think they deserve better. It's the male equivalent of an ugly fat chick saying "I'm just too much woman for you sweetie" or "I'm big and beautiful no matter what society says".

>>13120763
Yeah like an app that pretty much only exists for casual sex

>>13120469
>>13120483
The history of civilization disagrees with you.

>>13120856
The history of civilization didn't have the pill

>>13120845
>He’s such a fucking loser, i bet he has a small peepee too
No, more like "if he's asking whoever's available will he really be interested in the one who finally says yes".
Also you still haven't answered my question about where to meet women in situations that aren't exactly the same as hitting on a stranger in a bar.

>>13120589
It is true and we are seeing a beta uprising. You're witnessing it happening right in front of you

>>13120809
If you actually had autism, you wouldn't be here. You Gen Z Fauxtists are worse than the Hot Topic Goths.

>>13120797
This. Women really care about shit like personality and charm.

>>13120866
Ever heard of Aspergers, otherwise known as high-functioning autism?

>>13120862
But they did have ritual sacrifice, goat intestines, poisons, and more. The pill does not actually introduce anything particularly novel to society; it simply reintroduces something very old, presented with the antiseptic patina of science.

>>13120845
>>13120793
>>13120763
In your perception of them world how do people even meet?
>you can't walk up to women in public
>nobody will be bothered if you start going through aquantences and friends one by one trying to ask them out
>if you do the second thing eventually it'll just work out
You live in a fantasy.

>>13120864
Through social circumstances where you have already have a justified reason to approach.

>>13120856
For 95% of human civilization, 1 in 20 males would have exclusive breeding rights with 19 in 20 women.

>>13120890
Like?

>>13120879
>Using sarcasm in a rhetorical question to defend a self-diagnosed autism
Gold Medal Steeplechase in the Special Mental Olympics

>>13120845
> Go gay :^)
Now you are just being silly.
I am not the Anon you are replying to, I have a wife in my 20's and also believe that approaching women isn't this beast that some make out to be under certain circumstances. But these are literally autistic schizophrenic antisocial people. You can't just tell them to go to bars and hit on girls.

>>13120888
>be at a party
>friend introduces to their friends
>talk to them

>go to a lit meet up
>meet girls
>talk to them

>be at a conference
>meet people there
>talk to them

>ask friend to hook you up with their friend
>talk to them

This is what people do.

>>13120865
>beta uprising
contradiction in terms, buddy.

>>13120895
>>13120908

>>13120905
>You can't just tell them to go to bars and hit on girls.
Im telling them explicitly that they don’t need to do this

>>13120894
There is literally no evidence to support this claim.

>>13119502
cope

>>13120797
>just pick yourself up by the bootstraps

You are either vastly overrating her looks, underrating your looks, or you've hit the lottery. Relationships such as the one you mention are becoming exceedingly rare

>>13120908
>talk to them
>get rejected / no interest

And each time you get rejected, the odds of the next person saying yes are even slimmer.

>>13120473
Prove that they do

>>13120915
You seem to think that building a relationship consists of making crude sexual jokes and having sex. Stop watching porn. Get outside and have normal conversations with people.

>>13120894
>>13120888
>>13120865

See: >>13120849

>>13119482
> on OKcupid
All the sensible women are already married by their early 20s.
>>13119502
> The human female is hypergamous
Fuck off to /r9k/ with your autistic pseudo-scientific nonsense.

>>13120908
2 of those are basically talking to random people in public though. Or at least a semi public situatuon

So, who is the most Incel character from literature? These are the requirements:
>still a virgin
>no girl likes him
>conscious about his looks
>bitter about his circumstances
>victim of bullying, general ridicule
>violently lashes out (eventually)

>>13120908
What if you don't like parties and don't want a party girl

>lit meet up
>conference
Lol? No one's there to get hit on, they're there for the subject matter.

>friends
Back to the getting called a weirdo in the group chat should it fail

>>13120929
>talk
>get rejected
If that's what you're experiencing, you're not talking to them. How do you not understand this? Yeah, only a small portion of men who are physically attractive and emotionally assertive can, when targeting the right demographic of women, pull a one-night stand from brief social interaction. Relationships are completely different. It's not a matter of rejection. First you have to build a rapport.

>>13120929
Explain the math, anon? Why would rejection from 1, imply rejection from another? Also, these are all not suppose to be tbe same group of ppl.


>>13120932
Idk what you’re talking about. This is how people make start talking. You knkw asking a person out (or simply talking to them) isjt a relationship right? You know it’s a process that can take a long time?

>>13120941
harold something, from the stand is literally the OG incel.

>>13120948
You'll tell yourself anything to sustain your victim mentality. Over and out.

>>13120933
>>13120849
This is missing the point that even if men were trying to fuck up and failing to do so, even if they tried to fuck across the aisle they wouldn't make it either because the 6-7/10 women are also banging the 8-9/10 men.

>>13120948
>Lol? No one's there to get hit on, they're there for the subject matter.
Did I say hit on them? Or flirt? I said TALK to them.

>Back to the getting called a weirdo in the group chat should it fail
Jesus christ, get better friends. Wtf kind of freindships do you guys have where it is guaranteed that they’ll make fun of you because you’re looking to meet people? You know that isnt normal right...

>>13120954
You seem to be saying exactly what I was saying. >>13120932

>>13120939
lmao
proof that there is an equally caustic contingent of femcels on twitter, rivaling that of 4chan

>>13120929
>tfw manlet, alcoholic, socially awkard
>Have had sex with 17 separate women in the last year
It's the easiest fucking thing. I honestly wish I could stop. Stop coping on the internet and just try if you want to have sex

>>13120953
No you don't get it. Not even talking about one night stands - even if you're talking and having a pleasant time with women, they won't be interested in even a coffee date. You're saying that only a small portion of men who are physically attractive and emotionally assertive can get a one night stand. I'm staying that only a small portion of physically attractive and assertive men can even get a date.

>>13120958
>>13120963
Literally the only good place to meet girls was school where even if you did build a bad rep it'd reset once you moved on to the next level of education. College was great because most people didn't know each other but you still had a basis of interaction. Outside of school it's way too difficult.

>>13120939
List of women who short men made look like fools

>>13120939
I mean, I understand if they hate ugly guys who approach them and can't take "no" for an answer. But short guys just minding their own business and these bitches think they deserve to die? They need to get back on their meds, crazy hoes

>>13120971
Sorry anon you're attractive and far more desirable than 90% of all other men. Don't try and pretend anyone can do what you can. How do you even meet 17 new women a year to fuck? Do you just have a good tinder profile?

>>13120965
I dont know if you’re responding to me... i havent said anything about having sex or making jokes. Im talking about getting to meet people who you can potentially ask out.

>>13120948
No, you absolute dunce. They are there to hear about something they're interested in, and meet people who share that interest. Why would you be hitting on people? That's flaw number one in your thinking. You're trying to adapt a club/bar tactic to the completely wrong purpose. Stop thinking with your dick, you masturbatory narcissist.

>>13120977
Where do you live? If you’re in a city there’s thousands of lonely girls looking for guys. If you’re in a small town, you can join the church... but that’s dumb.

>>13120987
Yeah, I responded to the wrong person in the first place it seems.

>>13120966
Those girls probably got fucked at least once in the last two weeks

>>13120986
I'm in college so I guess I've got that going for me. I'm decently attractive but I'm also 5'8". I just meet girls at school in class or at parties or w/e, more often than not their friends will set me up with them.

>>13120953
>Relationships are completely different. It's not a matter of rejection. First you have to build a rapport.
This. I realized that one night stands are for the most part soulless and kind of embarrassing phenomena, and they don't come near to true love's pure elation and joy. Sex is more of a market now, but it's a market for pure physical release. 50% of humanity has control over that market, and thus sex becomes banal and a sideshow to the hustle of Capital. No time for long term investment in somebody else when the unit of social selection is purely the indivdual. Lot of other factors in this, not just dumb womyn, but they play a big factor. A lot of women can't compete in this market because they don't want to deep down. Sure, maybe there are some pure genetic failures. But I think most don't feel they belong in the sexual marketplace, and would rather find love and affection, which is more difficult by a mile, and often requires a lifetime of work and maintenance. Can't do that when your partner (woman) is always worried about the future because they have no faith in anything that transcends their immediate short term social and cultural fitness.

>>13121022
>A lot of women can't compete
Meant to say a lot of men

My problem is I just don't know what to say when talking to girls. People in general desu. Once I've gone through a few cookie cutter conversation topics it just grinds to an awkward silence. I'm not particularly attractive either so trying to charm them is really my only option. Its soul crushing watching other people do it so casually.

>>13121010
>in college
>very attractive
>fucks a lot of girls
>wtf it's so easy anyone can do it!!!
I went to college too I almost fucked one girl but she was nuts and didn't feel like going through it. Was rejected by 3 other women before I switched schools and was rejected by 2 other women I met in classes there. In my church I was rejected by at least 6 different women.

In online dating I would get hundreds of matches but at least two dozen women stopped responding after saying I wanted to meet irk. Only ever got one woman to go out with me on a real date. I'm actually marrying that woman now but it took me until I was 24 to not be rejected for either sex and / or any form of established relationship. I'm not ugly, I've been in shape my whole life, I've just been socially awkward enough that I'm just below the line for who women consider dating or being with. You are not. When you walk into class or parties, women notice and look you on the eye. Doesn't happen to 80% of all men. When you say you want to get alone with them they agree, almost every time. For 80% of men, they almost never agree.

The perspective of this thread is so stupid. Male competition is so different from female competition. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

>>13121033
Dude, there's literally dozens of articles on how to keep up a conversation. Even if you hate small talk as I do, you can do it. If you're not attractive, you can't be very straightforward. Sorry, but that's how it works. Are you funny? Do your friends say you're funny?

>>13121039
Female competition being 10 women fighting over 1 guy while completely dismissing the existence of the other 9 guys?

>>13121033
>your shyness/stoicness is really cute
>i like it when you suddenly go quiet for no reason
>your awkward gestures are always a pleasant sight
>you're rough around the edges, but i still love you

>>13120973
>can't even get a date
Why will you not acknowledge that you're fucking up. Seriously. Stop looking at screenshots on the internet of twitter thots and tumblerettes. Walk anywhere and look around. Go to a coffee shop and see who's there. You're clearly and totally wrong. Your problem is that you're trying to accomplish something personal to you. You see this as an achievement to unlock. Despite the memes, other people are not npc's. There's not a secret dialogue option that gets you into their pants. A relationship is not a strategy for sex. A relationship means emotional intimacy. If you're not finding anybody to have coffee with, it's probably because you're not having very good conversations, and you're rushing to the "coffee date", and are also probably making it too formal. Women are not idiots. They can tell when you're being selfish in a conversation. You are making them uncomfortable. Before trying to "have a date", you should be aiming lower. I don't mean lower the standard of woman you're looking for, but you need to start off just trying to hold a conversation with women. Your skills are zero. Learn how to banter, learn how to steer a conversation, and be led in a conversation. Learn how to enjoy the conversation in and of itself without worrying about where it leads. The more conversations you have with women, the more you will be able to tell what their actual feelings in the conversation are. It's like you've just picked up a new game, are trying to jump into competitive play, and then are complaining about hax.

>>13120966
Ahaha. I never thought about this. I've heard of some of the more extreme feminists bitching about attractive gay men denying sex or dates to them. Guess it's more common than usual....

>>13121022
Drop the philosophy, and just work on your conversation skills.

>>13121033
that's cuz women are retarded. we're allowed to say that because they think the same about us. overcome this by flirting. women like tension, and they couldn't give a fuck less about what you are talking about in almost 100% of cases.

>>13121036
It's got nothing to do with attractiveness, or even being in college. It's about your social capital. Make yourself a good mate. I get really good grades, I am very involved on campus, I've got good job prospects. You don't even need a great personality. Just make yourself productive. Girls love it.

Temple of the Golden Pavilion by Mishima

>>13120872
Agreed. Women date up, but their measure of attractiveness is way less limited to the physical than men.

>>13120939
Jesus. What the fuck is wrong with these women? Please tell me this is fake. "Short guys deserve to be tortured", Really?

>>13121053
No, females literally driving each-other to kill themselves because they are bored. Women hate eachother, and the fact that you don't know this clearly demonstrates your lack of experience with women.

>>13121057
>women are not idiots

The bigger problem is breaking the barriers, look at this systematically: your brain reacts to rejection the same way it does to physical trauma. If you experience too much in certain scenarios, it can lead to phobias as to talk to women, going to certain places and getting rejected.
Get a Tinder account and act like it is a literal lotery. Swipe right up until anyone replies and from there on strike conversations. The point is to lose the fear, not to get a date or close the deal on her. Once that is gone, you move on to the stage where you have to get physical. I see men have a literal break down trying to force himself to kiss a woman, even though she wanted too and was just waiting for him to "do his part as a man" and kiss first. Keep going until you finally hit that pussy and finally realize that the dating game is just a big casino where the balls are always in the man's court, the stakes are just not worth to apply yourselves too much and there are way better ways to spend your efforts like reading literature

>>13121075
Just dumb people looking to get likes from a "hot take". Worrying about it is worse for your mind than following the tabloids.

Recommended reading for anons complaining in this thread

>>13120731
And why do you assume I'm one of those people too scared to approach others? I have no problem approaching girls because I know I'm attractive.
That doesn't make what I said any less true. Men ARE avoiding women for fear of more serious repercussions.

>>13121073
Women want to be with someone who makes them feel safe and secure. The world is a more dangerous place to them. Be someone who can take care of them in some fashion, and they will love you. The different types are looking for different kinds of security. If you know what you want, know what they're looking for.

When did rejection become so crippling to young men? Fuck sakes, approaching 15 women at a bar and only getting a number or two is just part of the male condition. Accept it and improve, or drop out life with dick in hand.

>>13121077
They’re smarter than you.

>>13121081
best take so far imo. I don't think reality is a numbers game, but I do agree that the important thing is practicing for when the One inevitably arrives in your life. Otherwise you'll be stuck with a neurotic broad who you only got with because you couldn't move past the fear of talking to women and settled for one who came up to you.

>>13121104
uncritical acceptance of the powers that B because they benefit you temporarily is not intelligence

>>13121076
Driving each other to suicide sounds like exactly the sort of hyper competition that would emerge from a scenario like 10 women vying for 1 man.

>>13121088
Unironically this

>>13121070
That is being attractive pham. You have an attractive personality.
>>13121057
>it's not an achievement to unlock
It literally is. It's the most important accomplishment a person can make. You only underestimate it's importance because its come easy to you. 1/3 of men between 18-30 have had no sex in a year or more. It's not easy for a significant amount of people.
>a relationship means emotional intimacy
I know I crave it. But literally no woman out of the dozens I pursued wanted that from me.
>you're not having good conversations
Tell me about it.
>women are not idiots
They are, and so are most men
>they can tell I'm being selfish and making them uncomfortable
Now you're just making shit up. When women talk to me they're almost always bored.
>Your skills are zero
I know that.
>you'll just get better
No, I can tell what women are thinking and feeling when I have conversation with them. I can tell they're not interested no matter what I talk about. Ask about them? They're not interested. Talk about me? Definitely not interested. Talk about movies, music, books? Not interested. Talk about work or school? Not interested. Women just aren't interested in anything I have to say or do no matter what I try. I can only think that its because they have 5 other more attractive men interested in them at all times and so see no reason to bother with me. Statistics and observation back up that explanation.

>>13121097
This
If you are not beautiful, be confident. If not, be rich. If not, be funny. If not be neutral(as in, do not even be bothered by their presence, just live your life).
That is the tier list for dating women in general on today's market(mostly thots). If you can't be any of these things, you are a loser which doesn't mean you can't date but your value is literally bottom of the barrel.

>>13121112
>making decisions that lead to your personal success and happiness isn’t smart

Okay, whatever you say.

>>13121088
Why not both? You can try to better yourself as a person AND realize that the game is extremely rigged against you and that there's only so much you can do.

>>13121104
Wouldn't count on it. Whenever I was forced to talk to women, I internally facepalmed at what came out their mouths. Bitches are braindead and they even think it's cute (it's not).

>>13121119
How unattatratice can you possibly be? Don’t you see women with 4s and 5s all the time? Who are you aiming for?

>>13119482
>Women were told since their childhood that being attractive and desirable is one of the most important aspects of being a woman, so they tried their hardest to be it.
>Boys were told to do what they want, and that they're special.
Is this the problem?

>>13121136
Then why dint you just go gay? Like honest to god.
>internally facepalmed at what came out their mouths. Bitches are braindead and they even think it's cute (it's not)
But it IS. And that’s why Men want them. Cause if they wanted to talk about fucking Raidohead and Tarantino, they’d hang out with other men. The whole point of women is to get what you can only get witn them. Men love that shit. Just be gay.

>>13121098
This. Learning not to take rejection as failure is an important skill that people don’t seem to develop anymore. If you people got dropped into the 1970s you’d curl up and die.

>>13121139
I'm actually decently attractive. Honestly I think I'm between a 6-7/10 and I shoot for women between 7-8/10. I have no interest in fucking 4 or 5/10 women I'd get absolutely no pleasure from that.

That is the complaint about the OP image. 7/10 guys can't get 7/10 women because they're all sharing the 8-9/10 guys.

>>13121130
it isn't
leads to banal meritocratic ladder climbing and rapid onset dementia for one, for two, on GP you should not have only your short term survival in mind. literally submitting yourself to fear for what? ooh i got a cool job in new yawk, and nobody in my office knows any of the streets around town because we're all new here so we use Yelp and continually give cash to the 5 star rated businesses so they can swallow up the small ones and turn into chains and set up their own bureaucracies to satisfy larger and larger crowds of cosmopolitans who contribute only to the rapidly expanding simulcra.

>>13121119
>>they can tell I'm being selfish and making them uncomfortable
>Now you're just making shit up. When women talk to me they're almost always bored
HAHAHAHAHAHA deluded

>All the stats show women have unrealistic beauty standards
>All the stats show women are hypergamic
>All the stats show men having less sex than women
"B-b-but it's your fault!"
So are you a misandrist then? You think men are unappealing and ugly in both looks and personality and that women's entitlement has nothing to do with this?

>>13121148
Fuck off, I'd rather be asexual then. Well, I'm already halfway there. Women are slowly starting to resemble insects, I'm trying to dehumanize them to the fullest extent. Same goes for other men, to be honest, you are nothing but lowlife pieces of shit, competition that stands in my way. Give me all your money, greedy cunt.

>>13121149
One rejection isn't failure but two dozen is. This is what normalfags can't wrap their head around, that so many men deal with that shit.

>>13121133
Because "realizing" that the game is rigged against you prevents you from bettering yourself as a person

>>13121144
If anything, women not only hear the same as men but are even put in a higher pedestal, i.e. they are amazing workings just as men while also being better at raising kids, bring more in touch with their emotions while also being smart as men, etc.

>>13121159
Live in reality.

>>13121167
17 guy here
I have probably been rejected by upwards of two dozen women. Stop being a bitch

>>13121165
based socialist

>>13121148
If it was just a swtich that you can flip in your body, believe me I would.
T. Married man with a modest past with women

>>13121176
If I try to sleep with two dozen women I'll get zero. If you try to sleep with two dozen women you'll get 8.

Hmm yeah I just need to put myself out there and bee urself

>>13121159
do conceive of yourself as a datapoint? If so, I can see your pain, but if not, don't consider other people to be datapoints and you'll enjoy your time with them more. People you meet can be total outliers.

>>13119523
Not that I agree with the other poster, but prehistory and preagriculture also means premonogomy

>>13121170
It doesn't if you stop caring about the game.

>>13121167
>>13121159
>>13121115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7FVmeJXwCY

>>13121188
You shouldn't care about the game in the first place

>>13121184
What a bootlicking argument.

>black people are x times poorer than whites
>WELL DO YOU CONCEIVE OF YOURSELF AS A DATAPOINT? YOU KNOW OBAMA AND OPRAH EXIST RIGHT? XD

>>13121204
Based

>>13121174
The stats he's talking about ARE reality you worthless faggot.

>>13120728
I bet its pr0n

>Had game
>Got current gf
>now completely socially retarded and dread ever breaking up and becoming a nucel

>>13119482
Recommend for everyone ITT. One of the most interesting things I've ever seen.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oliq8m8Qph0

Here's a piece of advice for incels: You're a white knight and you're putting women on a pedestal. No woman will give a man who puts her on a pedestal the time of day (barring getting literally paid), even if he's physically attractive and wealthy. You care too much and they can smell it, pay them less attention and they will be exponentially more attracted to you. Go to a bar, buy a girl a drink, and then go talk to another girl. Have fun, enjoy yourself. They'll be all over you

>>13121199
Yes, but doing so is kinda hard when you're both biologically and socially enforced to put pussy in a pedestal. Most men can't simply reject those concepts.

>>13121204
all I'm saying is that if you govern your reality by these statistics you're going to be a sad man, but it sounds like that has already happened. ignorance is unironically strength. take the retard pill.
/irony
don't talk to people thinking about their predilection toward hypergamy or whatever also these 'facts' are gleaned from fucking SOCIAL SCIENCE OF ALL FIELDS. they aren't just capital T True, you make them that way
You're the bootlicker compadre, but your boot is an imposed and ordered reality that you have not questioned

>>13121119
>pursue
That right there is your problem. Starting a relationship is not a hunt or a chase. It's a dance. A back and forth of revealing and concealing. To lead a dance means to take them where they want to go. You are messing up the pacing, because you are trying to race to the finish. Conversations with people you don't know, or don't know well, start with small talk. That's what small talk exists for. It's a social lubricant. It requires no expertise, and makes no demands, and has no strings attached. What you need to practice is transition from small talk to more advanced conversation. Use small talk to open an easy, and not very intimate avenue of personal conversation. It is important in this phase to remain casual. People get uncomfortable when you they sense a subtext, but they open up when they believe you are sincerely interested to an appropriate degree. Use the situation to you advantage. For example, if you go to a book reading, make a comment about something the other said that is open ended and not too strongly opinionated. Depending on how they respond, use this to jump into (very briefly) how you discovered the author; this is a feint of sorts though, because you are using this personal anecdote to make them more comfortable sharing when you ask how they found out about the author. With all of this, you want to be honest. Not only will it avoid trouble later, but practicing honesty allows you to easily adapt to wherever you are. Personal anecdotes are a great way to suggest the depth of the conversation, so long as you make sure to not dominate the conversation. Avoid long explanations, use generalizations where you can. Most importantly, make the conversation your goal. Don't think about what you want out of it, just stay in the moment and see how you can keep it going in as enjoyable and effortless a way as you can.

>>13121229
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>13120849
>Implying incels also don't have unrealistic standards for women.
Look at the graph. The distribution of men's ratings of women was virtually what you'd expect. Clean distribution, the average woman being rated average, nothing skewed.
Women, on the other hand, think the most men are unattractive, and only a very tiny percentage are attractive.

>>13121228
>try to get with women
>total rejection
>ignore women
>dont speak to any of them socially for over a year
You don't k kw women you dumb faggot. You think you understand your success but you don't. There is nobody who understands women less than a man that can score with multiple chick's in even a lifetime. You think you know why you've had success but you don't. The truth is that those women decided they'd sleep with you the moment they saw you, end of story. You did nothing. You did not make the right choices. Every man who has ever gotten a woman's had them fall in to their lap from no effort or decision making whatsoever.

>>13121228
I used to go tondance clubs by myself and just dance and get fucked up and probably hooked up each time. Stop going out for women go out to entertain yourself first then people get drawn to you

>>13121229
what you think you are saying
>there is a biological basis for valuing women too highly
what you actually said
>Woe! The stars are aligned in a manner which hath doomed men to pathetic groveling at the feet of womyn

>>13121255
Then why do unattractive guys get laid? Because they do.

>>13121240
>>13121261
This is the most pathetic, masturbatory normalfag cope I've ever read and exactly what I described here
>>13121255

You don't know shit about anything and cannot explain human behavior accurately whatsoever. It's why you literally can not accept the fact that 30% of ALL MEN between 18-30 have had no sex in a year. Women throw themselves at you and you've done nothing right, and have absolutely no understanding of why. It's just because if whole you are without trying.

>>13121261
yeah, but going to clubs fucking sucks in the first place. the biggest problem is not having a socially acceptable place to approach women that doesn't involve pagan rituals of raucous foolery

>>13121255
Is this bait? If this isn't you are on another level of autism

>>13119482
Men rate women like that in an appeal to logic/fairness - literally unconsciously vritue signaling. Women don't pretend they aren't selfish because they don't have to. The chad woman and the virgin man

>>13121276
They don't though. Statistically, they don't.

I think /lit/ has an older demographic than other 4chan boards so people here have a hard time understanding what is dating now. There is no more "bars" or nightclubs, no more meeting a girl in your class and workplace, much less in a club or church. It's all about social media now, all girls are on Tinder, Instagram or Snapchat getting approached by literally hundreds of attractive men every day. There is absolutely no way an average male can compete.

Marshall McLuhan said that the "medium is the message", meaning that instrument through which a message is transmitted is as influential as the content of the message. There has been a lot of study already on how literacy, the printing press and electric media has changed mankind, we should now study how social media has changed us, specially woman. Because there is no way that the brain of a girl who only knows people within her social circle and dates the average classmate because can't really do any better works similarly as the brain of a girl who knows thousands of people and is approached by hundreds of attractive men through her Instagram profile. She won't be as easily satisfied as the previous girl.

>>13121300
Then where do ugly people come from?

>>13121296
This is what im talking about >>13119602 fucking lol

>>13121306
the technological revolution was a mistake

>>13121300
Thing is, there's a big intersection in the Venn diagram of socially retarded men and unattractive men. Non socially retarded unattractive guys get laid.

>>13121300
Okay show me the statistics

standard distribution vs maxwell-boltzmann distribution

>>13121237
Nobody lives their lives by statistics sweetie. People go through real life situations of being rejected constantly and eventually give up trying. Thereupon they turn to online forums to find people with the same experience. Now these people start to wonder about their collective experience. What's the cause? I'm average-looking, why is it I'm always rejected? Why are the assholes, the Chads and Tyrones, the notorious schoolbullies and halfwits, the ones with all the girls? That's when they research online to find the stats. They find about the hypergamous nature of women. They find the 80/20 rule. They find the stats which show men are being deprived of love and sex.
Nobody views themselves as a data point, but data is a great way of analysing the predicament you're in. Because, believe it or not, data is not just random numbers created by some scientists in an ivory tower. They are representations of real life phenomena and real live people.

>>13121311
unattractive people can be born from attractive parents. and vice versa. i know from personal experience.

>>13121311
Someone skipped biology class.

>>13121306
i wonder what's going to happen to these women once they reach 30 years old. will they all go insane once their attention dries up?

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>>13121322
The Field of Statistics and Its Consequences Have Been a Disaster For The Human Race

>>13121010
>5'8
>manlet
you've got to be shitting me dude. you have such a warped sense of your own height because you spent too much time here. as an actual short guy, 5'3, it's fucking hell and impossible in today's generation to fuck millenial women.

>>13121277
>thinking these things are done without effort
This is why you will stay a Beta--you think Alphas don't try. You think because something is done well, it took no effort to get there. The truth is that they want it more. You just didn't seem them be awkward because while you were playing video games in 6th grade, they were spending hours trying to conceive of the stupidest shit to get Stacie to give them a blow job. The difference between an Alpha and a Beta isn't the fear, but the response to the fear. Real men don't tolerate cowardice.

>>13120469
It's called selection bias you fucking nigger

>>13121328
>>13121327
Go visit a trailer park and stop complaining.

>>13121337
Nah they'll find some upper-tier normie to settle down with. But if Chad ever comes calling they gone

>>13121355
I don't understand why there needs to be competition. We're both considered short in the eyes of women

Just wait anons. VR and sex-simulation technology will come out and render the Female useless.

>>13121362
>real men don't tolerate cowardice
Then why aren't you fighting wars in some middle-eastern shithole right now? It's time to fulfil your duty and kill some sandniggers, son.

>>13121370
my point was that you called yourself a manlet despite being 5'8, which is closer to average than short height for a man. you implied that you were able to get girls despite being short but you're not even short. i'd like to see someone my height talk about fucking women. and okay, being short isn't the end-all be-all but being short, introverted, and having child-like, neotonic features is the end-all. i hate that it sounds like i've given up but i guess i have

>>13121392
i'll pray for you anon

>>13120777
Cute.
And are you really getting upset that your mom didn’t spend her early twenties getting railed by every guy that waved their dick at her? Grow up anon.

>>13121392
I'm actually a different anon but I'm 5'8" also so I replied. Anyways I completely understand your struggle, you definitely have it way worse

What I find puzzling is those stating "it's just biology - women are whores with unrealistic standards!" and yet can't understand the basic mechanism of evolution in humans - if women are selectors, men have to compete. You think a woman is just gonna fuck you out of pity?

>>13121276
Because the people who have the most sex, and have the most children, are the lowest class of people.

>>13121167
I’ve been rejected by probably dozens of women at this point. I don’t see it as a shot against myself, these interactions are too superficial. Stiff upper lip, you young chucks.

>>13121392
I know two guys who are 5'0" and still regularly get girls

>>13121421
1. Because something is natural does not mean it's good
2. Not out of pity, out of force.

Simple. Now go back

>>13121423
not true
data shows that TFR is highest among low classes AND extreme upper classes
only the middle class has this reverence for sexuality

>>13119482
Can't you spend some money and become attractive? I thought everyone could become attractive nowadays.

>>13120926
>my wife is very attractive!
>she's a 5.6/10
Every time.

>>13121421
Why do women select for retarded traits like penis length or sociopathy (>>13121092)?

>>13121449
power

>>13121437
If you can't even force yourself to talk to girls, how the hell are you going force society to talk to girls for you?

>>13121421
Yes, it's all competition. Other men aren't your friends, they're enemies to slaughter. Women's only purpose is sex. Just lol at making friends, these friends of yours will shamelessly put you down in front of women, in order to come across as more appealing. If you don't hate other men, along with women, you're dumbass and cringepilled.

>>13121435
Are they drug dealers?

>>13121465
have sex

>>13121449
People will come up with a evolutionary psychology explanation for anything. Women like tall man because he will protect her. Women like short men because short men required less food to sustain themselves in hunter gatherer times. etc

>>13121446
Implying I’d ever post my wife to this Chinese dumpster fire.

>>13121476
THIS STOP THE THREAD

>>13121462
I'll become a serial rapist

>>13119482
>Books about the Incel Revolution
why would you be interested in subject like this?

>>13121421
Humans in civilized society should be above the norms and standards of the jungle. To step down and accept female conditions is to destroy civilization, as women will always select aggressive and violent males, thereby promoting violence. In the end, you get a society like Brazil where you can't have sex without a murder in his background and everyone is trying to rob everyone to show dominance and be more attractive to girls. The "natural selection" you advocate for is dystopian in a modern society.

>>13121476
What other reason is there besides evolutionary psychology or mental illness? It can only ever be one of those two things.

>>13120797
>being married
YIKES

>>13121449
Start by reading a book on evolution if you want your inane little outliers explained. Selection genes are basic "rules of thumb" and we use those to decide who is a suitable mate. They don't code for finding specific people, just general traits. If sometimes these guidelines aren't working as intended, don't be surprised.

>>13121465
What the fuck are you saying mate. I'm simply stating that if you want to talk about society in biological terms, then stick to the narrative and accept that women have no obligation to chose you if you're not up to their standard.

>>13121483
>as women will always select aggressive and violent males, thereby promoting violence
And somehow Brazil is your evidence for this statement? Can you show any link between female selection and the state of a society?

>>13121468
>virgin bashing another virgin to look cool
Fuck off, faggot.

I can't believe I used to post on this website. I'm 30 now and married and you losers will waste your next decade here arguing about women.

>>13121534
>30 now and married
oh no no no
was she 'settling down'

>>13121534

>>13121506
>But sir, there is a hole in your argument
>N-NO, READ A BOOK

>>13121481
I doubt it.

>>13121534
This is what punching down looks like

>>13121543
And the hole is? You think by showing me that image you somehow proved that... women like... people on death row? Or that you somehow disproved my point about selection? Your IQ is literally below 80.

>>13119482
Incels are hilarious little snowflakes.

“Ooh, society doesn’t conform to my feelings of entitlement formed from watching teen romance pablum exclusively, well into my twenties. Better get angry and blame the world and further decrease my social capital instead of examining my biases!”

>>13121558
Sure is. So take it, nerd, or fight back.

>>13121564
I bet you sound extremely nasally in real life and consider yourself "smart but lazy".

>>13121565
>lmao just be content and play your switch bro

>>13121582
Couldn't be more wrong. I'm a baritone singer. Not only were you wrong but your level of deduction and intuition about others is so bad you've just proven my point about your stupid picture.

>>13121599
Post a vocaroo of your best singing voice

>>13121599
>>13121608
Do you take song requests?

>>13121599
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>13121608
https://vocaroo.com/i/s01DKGuMLsB6

>>13121583
If what you got from my post was “be content and play your Switch, bro” then you’re the exact type of person I was railing against. Falling back into infantile hobbies when confronted with your own inferiority is snowflake behaviour. If you can’t get dates, clearly you lack the social capital that your peers who are able to get dates display. If your self-worth is tied to others in a way that romantic rejection kills your conception of self having value, you’re a failure in self-development. So rather than examine and improve, your knee-jerk response is to wallow in childishness and separate from the world? There’s no helping those unable to help themselves.

>>13121732
dumbass and cringepilled

>>13121680
lmao based

>>13121781
Coward and cuckpilled.

>>13121781
Slave-morality pilled.

>>13121732
Saying shut like this to clueless incels is what made pappa Peterson into a patreon celebrity. Keep it up anon and one day you too can tell shut-ins to wash their penis.

>>13121274
Just because you're being witty doesn't mean you're being right.

Reminder

>>13121228

>>13121921
>just go off the grid and eat berries in the forest, bruh

>>13121937
Yeah, unironically.

>>13121977
I'll be waiting.

>>13121148
what a couple of fags

Nothin personnel

>>13122023
Tasty snack.

>>13120778
Fuck that just happened to me

>>13121921
Replace "technology" with "Jews" and you have it right.

I'm turning 23, have some very good (male) friends, have a good sounding job that makes better than the avg in my area, /fit/, well groomed and above avg looking enough to have been complimented for it multiple times, have outdoorsy hobbies, a good car, yet I'm a virgin. For everyone here saying you just have to work on yourself and improve yourself, what the fuck am I supposed to do?

>>13122262
Get on Tinder

>>13121344
That is definitely a capitalization choice, but is it the best one?

>>13122262
Now you just have to get a glorified prostitute who wants you for your money. Go get 'em champ. Hail victory!

>>13119557
Why do twelve-year-olds all type like this

>>13121344
Five star post my nigger!

>>13119512
Why do incels come up with history in their own heads instead of learning about it? Is it merely autism?

>>13120890
OK, you've went to a different cit/country for your work, and all your colleagues are 40 and 50-something old geezers.

You can't meet neither girls nor get even friends from work.

Where do you go to meet and potentially have relationships with girls?

Even if you go to a course or sports or something, your chances will be pretty low, and if that doesn't bring any desired effect, what do then?

>>13122280
Because super-hypergamy even affects 12 year olds

>>13120997
What if you are not in a catholic country (meaning people don't go to church at all, except on religious holidays and then its just old grandmas)?

>>13119482
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>>13120730
>I'M COPING AND SHRIEKING AND COPING AS HARD AS I POSSIBLY CAN AND THE PUSSY STILL IS NOT FLOWING
>HOW COULD THIS BE HAPENING TO ME

>>13120911
based and 911pilled

>>13122268
I don't have any good pictures because all of my friends are men. I went on Tinder for a month and it was soul-crushing.

>>13122273
I refuse to get a hooker I want someone that actually wants to fuck me.

>>13122316
Defend the genital Jew all you want, you're not going to lose your virginity for it

>>13120926
>>13121446
honest question: how do you think the people in this thread rank

remember that although personality and looks matter for both sexes, women do value personality a touch more and men value looks a touch more, and nothing's worse than 4chan personality

but really, does this thread even approach a median 6.0? really?

>>13122333
>the genital Jew
imagine thinking people who don't talk like this are all virgins

>>13122337
You have it mixed up, women value looks more and men value personality more

>>13122341
I don't take lip from white knights who do it for free

>>13122262
go to a fucking party. don't fuck people at the party, obviously, but get a girl's FB(or whatever shitty social media you can tolerate, I know they're all bad) and message her and invite her to a normie movie. Pikachu or Lion King or whatever, a horror movie if she seems amenable. Hold her hand during the movie and if she looks sick afterwards, hug her goodnight and move onto the next girl. If she doesn't look sick afterwards give her a hug and kiss her cheek and say you want to hang again soon

And don't say some complainy weird about Jews or whatever. And don't send dick pics or *put on wizard hat* or any of that autistic internet shit. Actually don't complain about anything. Just act like you have your shit together and you like kissing necks and you actually like her.

And delete your fucking reaction image folder for christ's sake. Women can smell that shit from a mile away and it's nauseating. Frog cartoons are for 16-year-olds not 23-year-olds. You're a grown man. Go to loud parties. Watch dumb movies. Get laid. Once you get laid you won't have to do that corny shit anymore but you need to get outside the internet headspace for a split second and act like a normal person.

Act like you can actually enjoy life and not be bitter about it. Bitterness doesn't make you look epic and dark and edgy, it just makes you look like a tool who doesn't understand how life works.

Oh and wash your fucking pillow case and towels if you're not already doing that. The bar is so low.

>>13122346
>white knights
If fucking women and making fun of shrieking losers is "white-knighting" now... I don't know what to tell you, kiddo, except you better get on my level

>>13122394
You sound like a 30 year old boomer

>>13122410
I am a 30 year old boomer

>>13122413
Well I guess that settles that

>>13122381
I graduated college last year, nobody has parties anymore. I go to bars every weekend but random girls don't want random guys talking to them, they're always super bitchy and I know it's not just me because I've seen it happen to other people when they try.

>>13122260
Jews didn't free women from being housewives. Urbanization and machines did that. Jews have done a lot of bad shit, but it's not even close to what technology has done.

>>13119482
idk i think part of this is created by the simple fact that women are masters of deception and they literally choose the most cherrypicked images possible. so like half of the women on apps through a combination of snapchat filters, angles, makeup, and prolly other shit they keep secret raise themselves up to 6+. doesn't help that guys are horny and don't take good pictures of themselves.

>>13122381
>And delete your fucking reaction image folder for christ's sake. Women can smell that shit from a mile away and it's nauseating.
Ask me how I KNOW you’re going to be pussy-whipped for the rest of your life. Never compromise what you like or want for a hoe.

>>13122344
Objectively wrong. If you don’t even get this, you can’t be helped.

>>13122468
It's because of the online social scene. They don't need your attention when their phone is constantly bombarded by tons of guys. My cool wine roastie aunt who is 38 and never been married is a solid 4-5/10. She gets male attention every day, average guys too not some uggos. Just for existing and being a basic female. She doesn't even post lewd photos. Let that sink in. Now imagine other younger and more attractive women. It's all over.

>>13122501
Not wrong at all lmao. Guys just want a girl who's nice and will give them attention. Girls want a guy whos tall with a big cock and a strong jaw, even if he continuously abuses them

>>13122500
Then continue to post in incel threads you fucking mongoloid.

>>13122504
Then what the fuck am I supposed to do? This month I turn 23 and I'll officially be a year older than that virgin shooter faggot. I feel like this aspect of my life is slipping away from me and I don't know what to do. I've never had a girlfriend or gotten past first base.

>>13122516
The only previous post i made in this thread was recommending Mishima. I’m trying to do you a favor. Changing yourself or your behavior for a woman is a recipe for disaster. I too was once pussy-whipped and it took being dumped for me to see. Obviously you need to put on a demeanor so women don’t think your a creep, but once you got em on the hook don’t compromise things you enjoy, even if its stupid memes (maybe just don’t ever let her know about le 4chin). Because once you let a woman control one aspect of your life she’ll have you runnin circles around her.

>>13122475
Jews literally co-opted feminism, it's not even a secret.

>free women
Yeah, they sure are happy today. Look at happiness measures for women today vs the 50s

>this thread

>>13121088
Jordan Peterson is a deceiver who preys upon weak men for money and status. His advice is poison. Read Jordanetics if you want to actually see how sick this guy actually is.

>>13122549
I'm not saying women being free is a good thing. I'm just saying that Jews didn't do that on their own. Women would never have been freed from being housewives were it not for technology and urbanization. Remove Jews and keep the technology and you get the same thing as today, maybe slightly different but not in a major way.

>>13122719
Calling it "free" when they moved from being cared for by loving husbands to being at the mercy of corporate bosses is pretty deceptive

>>13122533
I don't know, anon. I'm in the same boat, turning 24 soon. KHHV, all that good stuff.

>>13122719
>Remove Jews and keep the technology and you get the same thing as today,
Not at all. It was very simply just because Jews wanted twice as many worker-consumers. So, they coopted feminism and guided it to its modern corporate destination.

This also sets up the second Jewish plot: immigration schemes. With birth rates low because women are all working, you can import brown and black people and divide the country permanently, keeping your wealth and power safe forever as the proletariat squabble along racial lines as you support whoever has the lower hand.

>>13122738
Did Jews shill dishwashers, fast food, the collapse of rural society (80% of Americans being in rural areas 100 years ago to 80% being in cities today), etc.? I constantly see people who are well off leaving rural areas and adopting a modern lifestyle just because. People are animals and need to be squashed to contain. You can't just pin everything on Jews, even if they are to blame for some of it. Power grids, automobiles, suburban housing developments, and much more are a bigger problem.

>>13122759
Technology has literally fuckall to do with it, I don't know why you keep repeating this as if it has any meaning. Electricity is not the name of the social movement in which women shamed each other to go to work.

>>13122772
Technology enables it. Look at all the hypocritical tradthots. Take away the dishwashers, child care centers, pointless jobs, and government bux apparatus and you'll see how quickly things shift.

Even Hitler had a gf

>>13122926
No until he was like 40.

>>13123105
I read the book they are basing that summary on, "The Young Hitler I Knew" by August Kubizek, and in the writings of that image they misrepresented some facts, apparently to make Hitler look crazy. He never pretended to have some psychic communication with Stephanie, although he was obsessed with her.

>>13123380
I'll have to read it. The only other thing I know of it is his Rienzi experience.

>>13123440
>>"His classmates, mostly from solid, good-class Linz families, cold-shouldered the strange boy who arrived daily 'from amongst the peasants'"
p.59

>"In class he rarely came to anybody's notice. He had no friends, contrary to primary school, and wanted none"
p.59

>"He too, was completely alone. His father had been dead for two years. However much he loved his mother, she could not help him with his problems. He just needed to talk and needed someone who would listen to him."
p.32

>"I was surprised he had so much spare time and asked innocently whether he had a job. 'Of course not', was his gruff reply [...] He did not consider that any particular work [...] was necessary for him"
p.29/30

>"He no longer attended school; did nothing to get himself job training; lived with his mother and let her keep him. But he was not idle: this period of his life was filled with restless activity. He sketched, he painted, he wrote poetry, he read"
p.62

>>"But he? Where should he have gone that Christmas Eve? He had no acquaintances, no friends, nobody who would have received him with open arms. For him the world was hostile and empty. [...] All he ever told me of that Christmas Eve was that he had wandered around for hours. Only towards morning had he returned home and gone to sleep. What he thought, felt and suffered I never knew"
p.140

>"So, for my friend it was books, always books. I could not imagine Adolf without books. He stacked them in piles around him. He had to have with him at his side the book he was currently working through. Even if he did not happen to be reading it just then, it had to be around. Whenever he went out, there would usually be a book under his arm. This was often a problem, for he would rather abandon nature and the open sky than the book."
p.179

>"Books were his whole world. In Linz, in order to procure the books he wanted, he had subscribed to three libraries. In Vienna he used the Hof Library so industriously that I asked him once in all seriousness whether he intended to read the whole library, which of course earned me some rude remarks"
p.180

>"Hardly anything would disturb him when he was reading, but sometimes he disturbed himself, for as soon as he opened a book he started talking about it, and I had to listen patiently whether I was interested in the subject or not. Every now and then, in Linz even more frequently than in Vienna, he would thrust a book into my hands and demand that I, as his friend, should read it."
p.180

>"Adolf had an especially feel for poets and authors who had something of value to say to him. He never read books simply to pass the time; it was a deadly earnest occupation. I got that impression more than once. What an upset if I did not take his reading seriously enough and played the piano while he was studying."
p.180

>>13123475
Neat