/lit/ - Literature

>>13103727
My two longest relationships were with girls I attracted thanks to a common love of books.

It wasn't planned. The second one just liked my

>intelligence, nihilism and wicked sense of humor

Seriously though she liked my style and having a connection to a lot of authors was a big part of that. It's not something you bring up consciously, more like an habit, a way of thinking that color your daily behavior. I was mostly just joking around and she liked that.


With the first one it was straight up conversation about books and knowledge in general, no subtlety. Older girls care less about style and more about whether they actually enjoy your company.

First time we met we spoke from 3 am to about noon. No sexual undertones too, that only came later. Two big reasons it had such an impact on her is first she was surrounded by normies and being able to talk about literature with someone was a huge relief, and second I was ten years younger and she was surprised by my ability to keep up with her. She even said it was the first time she met someone she could actually discuss her PhD thesis on tarot cards with.

Beware bookish girls are almost always weird or unconventional one way or another, they are likely to mess you up, but at least you'll live something worth experiencing.

>>13103727
Who is reading an aesthetic now? Is this the ultimate form of postmodern hell or can we go even further?

>>13103804
I'm kind of tempted to just start dressing as a military Stalinist in my day to day life just to take the piss out of this whole post modern ethos.

>>13103727
I am a virgin.

>>13103727
My 1 real date with kiss I've ever had in my life happened only because I'm a relatively well received writer in my city and I like to talk about books, and she thought I was interesting.

>>13103839
I don't get it why a white man would watch interracial porn. Who do you insert yourself as here, the white woman or the black man? Either way, you're a cuck.

>>13103868
You insert yourself as the cuck hiding in the closet

>>13103874
>>13103868
cuckoldry is the most intellectual fetish. It is the sublimation of sexual desire and the mere appreciation of sex as theatre and aesthetic.

>>13103839
why this guy look like kanye west

>>13103804
Reminds me of how Nietzsche said:

"The reputation,
name, and appearance, the worth, the usual measure and weight of a thing - originally almost always something mistaken and arbitrary, thrown over things like a dress and quite foreign to their nature and even to their skin - has, through the belief in it and its growth from generation to generation, slowly grown onto and into the thing and has become its very body: what started as appearance in the end nearly always becomes essence and effectively acts as its essence!"

>>13103774
>her PhD thesis on tarot cards

3RD DAY OF NOFAP
IM GOING TO MAKE THIS HOLY SHIT NEVER BEEN SO FAR

>>13103727
I connected with this girl in one of my classes at University mainly over our love of reading. She gave me a copy of Wuthering Heights and came to my house once, but we didn't do anything sexual.

>>13103972
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>>13104173
if you cant make it at least 8 days not even thinking about masturbating youre a failure of a man

>>13103859
sounds wholesome though virgin

>>13104316
no one cares m8

>>13103884
that's what porn and artistic nude photography is for you fucking beta

>>13104316
other way around

i carry around a bag full of deleuze, guenon, pynchon, and dfw. i "accidentally" spill its contents when in the company of a beautiful woman. it works every time

>be me in university
>see cute girl in class
>she sometimes takes out a book to read before class
>once took out "The Unbearable Lightness of Being"
>text a friend about her, he says she hangs out in this one student lounge
>verify by walking past a window to the lounge
>she's there
>start autistically walking past the lounge a couple times a day
>figure out her schedule
>start showing up to the lounge, but only when she's not around
>befriend all the regulars
>often take out a book and pretend to read
>get known as "the bookworm"
>finally enter lounge when she's there
>everyone welcomes me like an old friend
>she's curious because by this point she's the only regular I haven't met
>"haha wow that's weird, especially because we're in the same class"
>"no way"
>say I have to leave
>next day I go to the lounge 30 min before she normally shows up
>take out Kundera's "The Joke"
>she walks in and immediately notices
>we strike up a conversation about books
>go for drinks
>fugg
Unfortunately, she was borderline and I broke up with her after a couple months. She threatened to kill herself if I didn't take her back. I didn't and she didn't. I graduated a year ago, moved away, but still miss her. Mental illness sucks.

>>13105298
if that happened without your manipulation it would be my exact and ideal dream of meeting a girl. you should take her back anon.

>>13103888
>kanye west
Literally who? trips chek'd

>>13105298
Man, you're a douche.

>>13103727
a girl who liked me tried to impress me by namedropping dostoyevsky and kafka but it became pretty clear after some casual conversation that she hadnt read them, although i didn't make it a point to call her out on it, because i took this as a positive sign for my chances of having sex with her (i did).
the girl i'm seeing now likes that i read, but she hasn't heard of and isn't really interested in what i read, she reads all mystery and ya stuff published in the last 5 years. she is a practical person without a discerning artistic taste, but she is young and kind of fashy, so maybe i can make something out of her over time.
as for bringing it up, if a girl ever asks what i do for fun, i'll simply say "i read alot", and since girls are fickle they will assume you're smart from that detail alone. no need to put on a performance.

>>13105359
cuck

>>13103727
Nah, but I did attract some girls with huge cock

>>13105359
If it's about the greentext, I completely agree, it was manipulative of me. Funny enough, she thought it was cute when I told her about my plan. I didn't think it was cute.
For the non-greentext, it's very hard to date someone who's borderline. She warned me up front. Every guy before me jumped ship after a couple weeks. I really liked her but eventually couldn't take it anymore. I think she's doing better now. I ran into her during my last semester, she actually apologized to me - not that she needed to.

if you are an avid reader and have not learned how to translate that into being irresistibly attractive you are absolutely hopeless. there are huge swaths of women who will fall in love with you if you can simply articulate a beautiful vision of a few topics. come on lads.

Is anyone else attracted to watching a cute girl eat a hamburger that's too big for her to eat in a classy or graceful way

They always turn their pinkies up and try to squeeze the burger down so that they can take delicate feminine bites out of it but it's still such an inherently masculine and decadent act, taking a bite out of a big sloppy burger purely for your own pleasure at the taste of it and to satisfy your animal instincts (hunger). It's like the perfect expression of the thin veneer of feminine grace covering the tiger heart that pants beneath

>>13105493
>pinkies up
I post with my pinkies up.

>>13103727
I was approached by a girl while reading Márquez, the rest worked out simply because I’m not autistic and I have decent looks.

>>13105564
I would remorselessly kill you and board quality would go up slightly

>have any of you used books to attract girls? has it worked?

This one girl I liked, I claimed to have read Hermann Hesse's "The Glass Beads Game" (I've read other books, just not that one) but she soon, easily found out I hadn't. Unfettered, I changed strategies and gave her books to read, the big three winners being [1] James Thurber's "Fables For Our Time" (She was real peeved by the one fable with the moral of "Never let a nervous woman have a pistol"), [2] Olivia Judson's "Dr. Tatiana's Sex Advice to All Creation" (poorly written but great information!) and [3] John Cleland's "Fanny Hill" (She claimed all Classic English books had the same boring plot, more or less. Showed her!) Long story short, that girl is now my wife! All I can say is keep it honest and an eclectic repertoire helps.

>if so, how did you bring up your vast erudition and learning in a subtle way?

The answer is forget you ever had that thought or ever thought of yourself in that way. You'll blow damn near every relationship or pick-up attempt you have with this sort of thinking. If you do even remotely possess "erudition and learning" it will shine naturally in the subjects you actually are learned with; Try to come off as being such will guarantee that others instantly find a flaw in you (besides you coming across as a know-it-all asshole a la Theodore Evelyn "Ted" Mosby).

>>13105493
Have sex.

The girl I'm dating atm is very much into philosophy and psychology, she's a hippie actually. I was a casual reader but started reading and visiting /lit/ more frequently. I'd say that i'm a generalist due to my educational background and interests and that kinda impresses her, my knowledge about History and Arts isn't obviously as deep as her but our conversations are always fulfilling.
Never have I ever felt a deeper connection with someone, we're fugging almost every second day of the week. I most likely will be a more cultured person at the end of this, no matter how it goes.

>>13106208
How did you meet? I've talked to about 5 girls in the past 5 years

>>13106256
I'm doing my Masters at Uni in a studenty/design city. She's from a business school. We met at a social event thingy, party games related - one that involves a lot of talking. I'm a lot more involved locally now so I get to meet and talk to a lot of people I wouldn't otherwise, I have social anxiety and I don't speak the local language.
Protip: Use the "Events" tab on Facebook, start with the events related to your school/workplace, then move onto cultural events, and all sorts exhibitions, group activities, special nights at bars etc.
If you don't have Facebook, and serious distaste for alcohol, then it'll be kinda tough. Join groups/societies at your school/workplace that organize and conduct social stuff - even a music or sports club or literary club would do.
Again, if you're young (Student or in your 20s), then get involved with AIESEC / ESN / Toastmasters or something, their local chapters I mean.

>>13103727
No. I use money. All my girlfriends have been poor and uncultured.

>>13105359
>>13105474
>man sees woman he wants
>decides to improve his chances of being with that woman
Try again.

My high school English teacher told me that Pale Fire was the best (and shortest) book to pretend to read to get women to sleep with you. He was wrong. Women are selfish and narcissistic, and want to see you reading some Womxn's Stoodies intro book. I've had great success with Plath (pretty fucking good poet, actually), Audre Lorde (poser), and Roxane Gay.

>>13103727
i wanna smells those books

>>13106256
>>13106290
Also, if you do end up going to one of these places, then do put some effort in presentation. Dress semi-formally, wear cologne, identify the important folks and try to ask them stuff. I'm really bad at small talk, so I just play an ethnographer - I just ask a bunch of questions without being obtrusive or seeming disinterested when they give detailed answers - without judgement. Also, figure out your shtick, everyone you meet would probably say that they like travel/some TV show/some popular band/Football or whatever. To make an impression, do mention some semi-obscure stuff you like, but not in an autistic fashion. Actually, it depends on the crowd you're with, but if you do manage to engage a girl - then pursue discussions outside the social activity too.
Women do like good listeners, I think everyone kinda does. And everyone likes to talk about themselves.

>>13103727
A lot more girls have started talking to me at work since I started reading in the break room.

Fucking thots, can't you see I'm trying to read? Please stop talking to me

>>13103774
t.virgin

>>13105298
can you turn this into a book?

>>13103727
In the only conversation I've had with a girl outside of my family in the past 3 years, we talked about books a lot. I'm NEET and don't leave my house much or talk to many people but somehow she ended up giving me her number. I texted her a few days later and she was very loquacious, gave long responses to everything I asked, but then I decided I don't give enough of a fuck about real world relationships to pursue it any further so I just stopped responding after a while. She hasn't sent me another text either. This was about two months ago. She was into stuff like Lovecraft apparently. I think Lovecraft is great too.

>>13105359
What he did was admirable.

>>13105298
reads like a teenage romcom story
Well done my friend.

>>13103727
>>13103727
okay guys greentext time
>be me
>work holiday job were I have to watch children
>easymoney.jepg
>before the holidays start, the so called teamers ( people who watch the children ) meet and talk what we are going to do with the kids
>there is this super nice 8/10 qt3.14 and we have to introduce my self
> " hello my name is Anon I do this and that ... and I like to read books ( I read mostly non-fiction books, but here and there I read some novels )
>so she starts " I am femanon ...., I also read books"
>because both of us cant go to the next meeting we are put toghter in a team for the holidays to watch our group of children

>holidays start and we kick it of really good
>we talk a lot about books and series we both watch ( she reads mostly fiction and she got me to read a Darker Shade of magic )
>so after the first week we meet 2 times for hanging out
>second time we end up at my place and we are chuddling
>she seems to enjoy it and wants me ot put my arm around her and stuff
>so when the moment arises I go in for a Kiss and everything seems normal
>she was pretty akward about the kiss, because her first kiss and stuff
>the day Ends and I drop her off at her place
>the next week we are still good at it and everything seems fine
>so on the last day of the holidays we meet and she says she needs to talk with me about something
>ff she tells me that she is asexual
>wut.wav
>she says that she knew it for bit now
>there where sometimes when I got a weird vibe when we talked about the children and having some and stuff
>she allways said that she wanted some, but wanted to adopt some, because asexual and stuff

>so now we end up in the present where we are going to work for another 3 weeks in the summer holidays, but she seems to be fine with everything or not
>I felt pretty betrayed, because I finally tought that I found that one girl

So Anons what do you think ?

>>13106637
No such thing as asexual. She doesn't like you.

>>13106461
>entertaining a roastie is admirable

t. tranny, woman or omega male

>>13103727
>have any of you used books to attract girls?
no
has it worked?
yes

>>13105298
you could have just asked her out and forgone the theatrics.

>>13106646
You really think that ?
Maybe you are right and after all I just tricked my self that she liked me the same way I did with her.

>>13103810
Go esoteric neofolk. The liberal, comfortable in the material, fears spiritual warfare.

can you make a full list of all the poser books you read so I can avoid you?

>>13103727
>have any of you used books to attract girls?
Cringe

Current gf liked that I was well read and intelligent.

>>13103727
No. I don't often spend time near women and when I do they seem daunted when I bring up reading as a hobby and mention what I like (even just basic stuff like the Greeks and Joyce).

>>13105564
Which translation of One Hundred Years of Solitude should I read?

>>13103727
I had A Dream of Red Mansions on my desk when a Chinese classmate came over to work on an assignment recently. She loves the book and was really surprised that I'm reading it, and offered to help me learn Chinese so that I can read it in the original.

I guess it worked out because it wasn't forced in any way. I hadn't mentioned literature up to that point, aside from quoting Wittgenstein for something relevant

>>13103774
>PhD thesis on tarot cards
Almost spit out my drink. You really need to drop a warning before typing out something that bizarre

>>13106656
Wrong.
1.Women are highly on guard in public because they get approached all the time.
2. Group acceptance is huge in making your status go up with a women, so having all the regulars greet him when he walked him made him seem cool and someone with things goes on in his life. Same reason you use group shots taken by someone else instead of bathrooms selfies on your tinder profile.
I was it wasn’t like this but it is, he is still creepy for doing alll that, but it happens when you are young.

>>13106656 #
Wrong.
1.Women are highly on guard in public because they get approached all the time.
2. Group acceptance is huge in making your status go up with a women, so having all the regulars greet him when he walked him made him seem cool and someone with things goes on in his life. Same reason you use group shots taken by someone else instead of bathrooms selfies on your tinder profile.
I was it wasn’t like this but it is, he is still creepy for doing alll that, but it happens when you are young.
>>13103774
Could you link the tarot card thesis? I am in correspondence with someone about that and would like a academic background on the subject

>>13107213
hasty generalization 101

>>13103774
how the hell do you carry on a conversation about Phd thesis on tarot cards

that would be pretty post-modern itself tbqhwymf

>>13103774

Can we know more about the story with the girls doing a PhD in tarot cards, if you don't mind sharing? Sounds made up but I don't care as long as it is a good story. How old were you both? How did you meet? And how did it ended?

The only time I've ever been in a truly loving relationship started because I struck up a conversation with an attractive girl who was reading the course textbook for the mandatory 2nd year philosophy module (realism and normativity) in the arts and social sciences library cafe. I hadn't seen her in classes which had only been going for a month or so. She was doing joint honours philosophy with English lit. We pretty much immediately fell in love and were together for two and a half years. The first 6-12 months were honestly the best of my adult life, we were together every day, fucking each others brains out, I introduced her to psychedelic drugs and so on. It all went south after a couple of years when I became an increasingly depressed alcoholic and she ended our relationship immediately after returning from doing TEFL for a couple of months. I am yet to recover from my mental health problems and addictions but I don't think she is to blame and I really understand why she had had enough of me. Pretty sure she's an English teacher now and I'm still a sad drunk sack of shit. Thank you for reading my blog post.

>>13107355
What kind of panties did she wear, please respond

>>13107355
aw anon

>>13106637
That just means that she never got really good dicked

>>13103943
BASED

>>13103727
My girlfriend often say that it's sexy that I'm well read. She've also voiced concerns that I'll become an insufferable idiot from reading ancient philosophy.

>>13107578
if she doesn't love you no matter what then she's not worth it

>>13105474
Well, that was a surprisingly warming end to that story.

>>13105298
Pathetic and utterly disgusting and dishonest
>>13107355
kek thistype of shit is the proof hy morality is important and hedonism is detructive bullshit

>>13107587
>unconditional love from a woman who's not your mother

OH NO NO NO

I also want to hear more about this PhD thesis on Tarot cards. What part of it? The history of the designs? The differences in interpretation between Renaissance cartomancy, Etteila's and Levi's pseudo-Kabbalah, Golden Dawn/Waite vs Crowley? I'm curious, been playing with the cards myself; generally drawn to the Tarot de Marseille and other historical decks, though I have to admit that the RWS is really enchanting, even if everything that Waite and Smith spawned is utter shit.
On topic: girls aren't impressed by the mere fact that you've read a lot, but they like that you are a thoughtful person. Reading a lot is both a signal that you are a thoughtful person and also a way to become more thoughtful/interesting even if you aren't initially.

>>13103774
>book girls are messed up
>dates girl who wrote thesis on tarot, and girl who thinks nihilism is hot/witty
Nah m8 you just picked obvious redflag art hoes. Plenty of stable bookish girls out there, been living with one for 3+ year, great to talk things out instead of normal girl passive-aggression

>>13103804
>Who is reading an aesthetic now?

i want the skater punk aesthestic, fits me since i´m a 21 y/o boyish looking guy

>>13106637
Some girls are asexual, few of them are and for many it's a question of hangups about sex. First thing that comes to mind when I've heard that in my life was that the person had been a victim of sexual abuse, and I was right.

Also, she could not be into you and use it as an excuse, but reading the rest of your story it would surprise me.

She may also simply be asexual.

>>13103943
>Baudrillard furiously taking notes in the distance.

Also, where is this specific quote from?

>>13108090
>vine memes
back to r/pewdiepie, faggot

>>13107578
Okay well she's not wrong, next thing you know you'll be blabbing about forms or eternal return or something

>>13103774
> her PhD thesis on tarot cards

Is being ugly a death sentence for getting a gf?

>>13105491
this guy gets it. If you're /fit/ and /lit/ you've already won the game

>>13108747
True story, all the girl friends (and even gays friend) of my girlfriend wonders how the hell she got me and most of them are jealous of hers.

Reminder that Dazai had sex with his female fans.

>>13108739
Of course not :3

There are loads of ugly couples out there.

>>13105298
I gave "The Joke" as a random gift to my gf
where you from

>>13104585
based

>The Bell Jar
gets em every time