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13096812 No.13096812 [Reply] [Original]

His poems are incredibly good and he's objectively one of the best poets out there.

Also general poetry thread.

>> No.13096827
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13096827

http://lilireinhart.tumblr.com

>> No.13096844

>>13096812
This is what happens when you have none of the qualities to be a poet but go through 7 years of university to become one.

>> No.13096868

>>13096844
Explain.

>> No.13096881

>>13096844
He was also a philosopher, you dumb litlet. Try out more of his works.

>>13096827
This is actually pretty good. Can you explain to me what did she meant by "They will never see ma as raw or bare as they see themselves, And that's what keeps me sane."

Shouldn't that be something good? Doesn't that mean that people actually understand how she is in her most vulnerable form?

>> No.13096902

>>13096868
A few literary illusions, a philosophical buzzword, and a vague smattering of biblical grandiosity to clothe the most insipid musings on adolescent feelings of love. I won't comment on the basic ass meter because it's translated I presume.

>> No.13096913

>>13096902
“I don’t crush the wonders corolla of the world
and I do not kill
with my mind the mysteries that i meet
on my way
in flowers, in eyes, on lips or graves.
Other people’s light
strangles the spell of the unpenetrated hidden
in depths of darkness,
but I,
with my light I increase the world mystery
and just as the moon with her white rays
does not reduce, but shivering,
increases even more the mystery of night,
like that I enrich also the dark horizon
with large shivers of holy mystery
şi tot ce-i neînţeles
and all that is not understood
is changing in even greater mysteries
under my eyes
for I love
aswell flowers, eyes, lips and graves.”

Try this one, then. He has many works, and yes, they're translated, if you want I can post in the original language but I doubt that you'll understand anything. I don't see what's so juvenile about it, to be honest.

>> No.13096924

>>13096902
>A few literary illusions, a philosophical buzzword, and a vague smattering of biblical grandiosity to clothe the insipid musings
This could be said about the works of the majority of canonical poets.

>> No.13096980

>>13096812
pseud shit

>> No.13096993

>>13096980
You shouldn't have replied then. Just saying "pseud shit" instead of developing your idea of not liking it, just shows us that you're a fucking retard.

>> No.13097006

>>13096993
pseud faggot

>> No.13097012

>>13097006
See? You're probably just some frustrated faggot that think he's "special" and because you don't understand poetry, you express yourself by saying nigger shit. End your pathetic existence, faggot.

>> No.13097024

>>13096812
Seems like it's just a fancy expression of basic mysticism.

>> No.13097027

>>13096924
>most poetry is shit
Couldn’t agree more

>> No.13097030
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>>13096881

SHE MEANS THAT NO OTHER WILL PERCEIVE HER SELF AS VIVIDLY AND COMPREHENDINGLY AS THE OTHERS PERCEIVE THEIR OWN SELVES.

INTEGRITY IS KEPT BY KEEPING TEMPTATION AWAY; WITH TACT, ONE SHOULD KEEP THE HEART FROM BEING TINGED BY THE PRYING TOUCH OF OTHERS; ONE'S PSYKHIC ESSENCE SHOULD REMAIN OCCULT; TO REVEAL ONE'S ESSENCE ENTAILS ONTIC VIOLATION, AND, ULTIMATELY, ONTOLYSIS; TO ONE: ONE'S ESSENCE; TO OTHERS: ONE'S APPEARANCE.

SOLITUDE IS THE SOUL'S SOLACE; DEVASTATING DESOLATION IS TO PRIVE THE SOUL OF SOLITUDE.

>> No.13097055

>>13096993
>>13097012
>ten times the words
>even less of an argument
Absolute pseud

>> No.13097056

>>13097030
What the fuck, this explanation is pretty good. Thanks anon.

>WITH TACT, ONE SHOULD KEEP THE HEART FROM BEING TINGED BY THE PRYING TOUCH OF OTHERS

I'm curious about this. What happens if the person that "touches" her heart is someone that she is in love with? Does she remain with the same idea or she will show herself naked, raw and vulnerable as long the feeling is mutual?

>> No.13097066

Poetry is inevitably dog crap
The profound and all important meanings flutter away with time
Necessary contextualizaion is lost in a flash
All we have left is a barely correct sentence
What does it mean? How the hell are we supposed to know- and would it even matter if we did?
Probably not
One should look for meaning ahead of them, and leave good poetry merely as the wake that trails them, rippling into nothing

>> No.13097070

>>13097030
based, I like your writings man, when are you updating your site?

>> No.13097099

>>13096913
These poems are just Rilke tryhard shit.

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>>13097056
>What happens if the person that "touches" her heart is someone that she is in love with?

WHEN THE HEART IS TOUCHED WITH LOVE BY A LOVED OTHER, INTEGRITY IS LOST, BUT THAT LOSS IS COMPENSATED WITH RECIPROCAL TOUCH —THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF MATRIMONY: INTERLINK BETWEEN TWO SOULS, SO THAT THE ONE IS MADE LIKE THE OTHER, AND THE TWO AS ONE.

>Does she remain with the same idea or she will show herself naked, raw and vulnerable as long the feeling is mutual?

EVEN AS AFFECT EFFECTS AN APERTURE TO THE HEART, THE VAULT OF ONE'S ENTITY REMAINS ACCESSIBLE ONLY TO GOD.

>> No.13097119

>>13096812
>uses the word light twice in the first 4 lines

>> No.13097150

>>13096827
Part of this seems like a white girl facebook post, but some of it is really good.
>That I, myself, am tucked away. Where none of them can reach me.
I dig this.

>> No.13097197
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I think Malachi Black does really good work. He's only released one book of poems I'm aware of, but it's one of my favorite contemporary poetry collections.

>> No.13097239

>>13097066
This hardly seems particular to poetry.

>> No.13097252

>>13096812
who is this

>> No.13097255

>>13097252
Lucian Blaga.

>> No.13097311

>>13097197
i could buy this as car seat headrest lyrics

>> No.13097345

I feel that with free verse there's an especially great onus on the writer to be really creative with their figurative language and subject matter because it lacks the innately pleasing to read quality of poetry with rhyme and rhythm.

None of the poems here have that. Some of them are just a step above "live laugh love". Flowery prose with line breaks will always be shit, while even a trite but properly structured poem will a least be passable

>> No.13097373

>>13096902
This. Anyone thinking this is good is in over their head when it comes to poetry. Compare it to something by based Milosz, who is on an entirely different level:

And the city stood in its brightness when years later I returned,
And life was running out, Ruteboeuf’s or Villon’s,
Descendants already born were dancing their dances,
Women looked in their mirrors, made from a new metal,
What was it all for, if I cannot speak?
She stood above me, head like the earth on its axis,
My ashes were laid in a can under the bistro counter,

And the city stood in its brightness when years later I returned,
To my home in the display case of a granite museum
Beside eyelash mascara, alabaster vials, and menstruation girdles of an Egyptian princess,
There was only a sun forged out of gold plate,
On darkening parquetry the creep of unhurried steps,

And the city stood in its brightness when years later I returned,
My face covered with a coat though now no one was left
Of those who could have remembered my debts never paid,
My shames not forever, base deeds to be forgiven.
And the city stood in its brightness when years later I returned

>> No.13097386

>>13097373
>She stood above me, head like the earth on its axis,
Fuck that's good

>> No.13097415

>>13097373
>On darkening parquetry the creep of unhurried steps
very nice

>> No.13097420

>>13097239
It’s exacerbated by poetic form

>> No.13097473

>>13097420
What does form have to do with it? For what reason would a text written in sonnet form fare worse than other text?

>> No.13097495

>>13097420
Appreciate it for what it is instead of hating it for what it's not.
the form making the meaning more transient/ephemeral can be viewed as a plus, the way you can view mortality as more beautiful and Poetic precisely because of how fleeting their lives.

>> No.13097510

>>13096812
Ugh, saccharine mush

>> No.13097512

>>13097473
The more a work of text strays away from explicitness and clarity the more it’s meaning will be lost over time and space

>>13097495
Fine whatever

>> No.13097554

>>13096902
based

>> No.13097572

>>13097066
>The profound and all important meanings flutter away with time
my favorite poetry is old english
see the dream of the rood for one example

>> No.13097891
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"The sun in the sky, cannot compare to your eyes
And the fire inside them.
The snow on the ground, cannot compare to how cold I feel when you're not around.
Just your presence alone helps me know that I’m alive;
You turned my house to a home now everything’s alright."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq73L-3jXmU

>> No.13097978

>>13097512
There is plenty of poetry that is explicit and clear, and plenty of non-poetry that is implicit and obscure.

>> No.13098801

Poetry is what is lost in translation

>> No.13098963

I would like to share a poem from Sadhguru, called "Of Leadership".

Of Leadership

When the Starlings fly in
their Collective Glory, can
anyone decipher the leader of
their magnificent act

The Heart beats, Glands secrete,
Kidneys purify, every cell performs
the most exacting functions
and the Brain reflects.

The many Billion Galaxies
of effervescent stars and nascent
space. Of Black holes and
Milky Ways, does someone see
a Center that leads

A Leader is a Fool

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13098986

I'm curious as to what people think of Paul Celan. The mix of this sort of abstract expressionist style with invented compound words (which I assume is a result of

>> No.13098999

>>13098986
...writing in German) makes for a somewhat unusual style.

Sorry, didn't finish typing that out.

>> No.13099458

>>13098986
I used to play around with compounds for their power to suggest atmosphere, or provoke images where more routine diction fails, as in "blueflicker". But much more sparingly than in this translation, which in its literalness may, or may not, convey the effect to native German speakers. Compounds in any language, as they come into common usage, tend to meld such that we lose awareness of their parts, while they take on richer connotations from the multiplicity of encounters with them. This is something I haven't given much thought to recently, as I age into preference for wit and elegance over the visual. Dickinson takes this distancing between map-like scenario-making and imagery about as far as it can go, and it reads very differently when you're young than when old and in the habit of critical analysis.

>> No.13099879
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>>13099458
To paraphrase what he's said about his own work, I'd say it's more about conveying the emotional shades and movements of the experience of an event as a whole, working more through the interplay of (indirectly) symbolic things and happenings. Anything involving a visual is essentially incidental to the overall thrust of the poem.

This one might do a better job of illustrating what I mean - all words connected to the visual play a purely functional role and are directed towards defining the symbolic object, nothing beyond that, no real attempt to create a sensual impression or "paint a picture".

Interesting that you mention Dickinson, she was among the writers Celan translated, I hadn't thought about it before but there are probably a few parallels you could draw between the two of them: collections of short, untitled poems grouped under general headings, use of the description of events in spheres of non-human entities in order to carry the significance of their poems, the treading of a line between lyric and aphorism, the branding of a unique and idiosyncratic rhythm and diction; all of which solidifies the sense of an author "world-building", engaging in a continuous, evolving work which accumulates in the reader's mind, which brings about the same effect you mention, in a way, of melding and taking on richer connotations as one becomes familiar with the author's particular universe.

It would be interesting to make a study of authors inheriting traits like these through the shifts of the years and centuries, and how a Modernist author can be reminiscent of a pre-Modernist one, but with the marks of chaos and deformity that follow from the massive changes in literature in the 20th century (not that those changes were necessarily bad, though).

>> No.13099890

Find the worst poems in the critique threads you can and post them here

>> No.13099921

>>13097030
Ah, that's why you write like a faggot:
You think like a faggot!

>> No.13100023

>>13097373
>Milosz
Nice Anon, now recommend me a book of his

>> No.13100029

>>13096812
dogshit

>> No.13100051

>>13100029
not a critique

>> No.13100077

‘I have a little cough, sir,
In my little chest, sir,
All night long I cough, sir,
I can never rest, sir,
And every time I cough, sir,
It leaves a little pain, sir,
Cough, cough, cough, sir,
There it is again, sir.

Oh, Doctor Milliken,
I shall surely die!’
‘Yes, pretty Susan -
So one day shall I.’

>> No.13100082

>>13097056
bro he just regurgitated some lacan 101 at you

>> No.13100101

OP, who's that? You might at least tell us that, not everyone frequents this everyday.

>> No.13100127

>>13097030
>PSYKHIC
misspelled a word there bud

>> No.13100482

>>13096812
>Also general poetry thread.
That feel when you still love a person who died 8 years ago.
***
My ginger star

When curtains of eternal night shall fall,
When perfect cold shall claim the cosmic throne
There will remain one ginger blazing ball
Among dead stardust, quenchless and alone.

Nor past the doom of universal end,
Nor when the time will cease in chance and fact
Will this red colour ever fade, my friend,
Still blazing bright as ever and intact.

It's not alive and neither it is dead,
It burns no fuel, but the untimely love --
The most pristine and purest ever bred,
Such that may you alone, my dear, behove.

Inviolable to petty earthen grasp
Of Death's crude effort it to arrogate,
It's to bestow, not ignorantly clasp;
By you alone, my dear, to create.

>> No.13100540

first poem pls be nice

I'm gay,
that is to say,
I'm homosexual,
that is, well,
I'm gay.

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13100592

>I am his highness' dog at Kew;
>Pray tell me, sir, whose dog are you?
This couplet is worth more than every poem in this thread put together. You cannot debate me.

>> No.13100617

>>13100592
holy shit this couplet has no business being as good as it is

>> No.13100746

>>13100617
He's got plenty more, my friend

>> No.13100789

AGATHA!
SUPREME!

"Boring boring boring!"
"But my allusions are soaring?"

"No, no, no, no, they aren't,
you aren't even trained in the art."

What is a poet? In this moment,
I desire to show ... no, no ...
all wrong.

>> No.13101085

Why do poets always
split their sentences
across multiple lines?

>> No.13101107
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>>13101085
So that you could ask this question.

Lilichka! - Instead of a letter
Tobacco smoke has eaten away the air
The room is a chapter from kruchenykh’s hell*
Recall: behind this window, in a frenzy of despair,
I first caressed your tender hands

You’re sitting like that now, with your iron heart
One more day – and will you drive me out at all?
It will then take me long to put my shivering broken arm
Into the sleeve in the dim hall

I’ll run out, I’ll throw my body into the street
Wild, lashed with despair, I’ll go insane
Please, don’t, my darling, my good one,
We’d better say goodbye today.

You see, wherever you may run to,
My love hangs over you like a bad dream
Please, let me howl out the bitterness
Of offended grievances in this last scream

If a bull ever gets tired out
It’ll leave and lay sprawled in cold waves
I have no other sea except your love
And, crying, for your mercy my heart vainly craves

If a tired elephant wants to rest
Regal, in burning sands it will lie down,
I have no other sun except your love
But I even don’t know where and with whom you are now.

Should you cause such pain to a poet
He would barter you for money and fame
Alas, no other ringing can please me
But the ringing of your beloved name

I won’t take poison or throw myself down the stairs
And I won’t pull the trigger against my temple
No other blade except the blade of your stare
Can ever make me tremble

You’ll forget tomorrow that I crowned you,
That this love burnt out my flowery heart
And the carnival of vain days will, whirling,
Tear the pages of my books apart...

Will the dry leaves of my words
Make you stop, breathing avidly?
Let me pave with this last tender verse
Your steps, as you’re leaving rapidly.

>> No.13101113

>>13096844
>>13096980
>>13097024
>>13097119
>>13097252
>>13097510
>>13100029
The poem is by Lucian Blaga, a Romanian poet. His language and choice of words are very ritualistic and 'tectonic'. The original is remarkable, but the English translation is terrible in comparison, it reads precisely like pretentious garbage. As a general rule, don't bother with Romanian poets unless you know the (poetic) language very well and have decent understanding of the folklore and overall 'Romanian soul'.

>> No.13101114

>>13101085
cus they are pretentious

>> No.13101134

>>13097512
WORDS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, YOU COWARD, AND NOT THE AUTHOR. YOU HAVE NEVER READ AND WILL NEVER WRITE NO MATTER HOW MANY BOOKS YOU HAVE FINISHED AND THE NUMBER OF WORDS YOU HAVE PUT ON PAPER.

>> No.13101139

>>13101085
Ideally according rhythm, and perhaps the image; if cowards, pretension.

>> No.13101141

Finished with my woman 'cause she
Couldn't help me with my mind
People think I'm insane because
I am frowning all the time

All day long I think of things but
Nothing seems to satisfy
Think I'll lose my mind if I
Don't find something to pacify

Can you help me
Occup up my brain?

I need someone to show me the
Things in life that I can't find
I can't see the things that make true
Happiness I must be blind

Make a joke and I will sigh and
You will laugh and I will cry
Happiness I cannot feel and
Love to me is so unreal

And so as you hear these words
Telling you now of my state
I tell you to enjoy life
I wish I could but it's too late

>> No.13101143

>>13101085

aesthetics
it creates a nice uniform block of text on the page

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>>13101141
>I need someone to show me the
>Things in life that I can't find
These things don't exist and people that say that they do are naive and infantile optimists. Life is a never-ending chain of suffering and despair and your only two options are either stoicism or suicide.

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>>13101151
they do exist Anon,just because you never experienced them doesn't mean that they are not real.I know from experience because I was exacly like you until I found them.

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>>13101170
Except you find "such" things, and then you lose them, and then comes realization that it's all the same shit no matter how hard you try to crawl back into your torn asunder placenta of infantilism and optimism.

>> No.13101693

>>13100592
because it rhymes?

>> No.13101739

>>13101085
Why do poets always split their sentences
Across multiple lines?

Compare this enjambment with yours and you might understand one use of the device

>> No.13101776

>>13101107
Very intimate to my current situation. Thank you anon, I am touched by it.

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>>13101776
Just in case, that's Mayakovskiy, not me. But yeah, this is in general some of the best love poems I've ever read, partially due to it coming from like the manliest chad thundercock in town. It's a really nice blend of hardness and healthy emotionality. Here's a fucking astonishing love poem from him:
https://russianfuturists.wordpress.com/2017/02/12/vladimir-mayakovsky-a-cloud-in-trousers-english/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Cloud_in_Trousers
[...]
You think I’m delirious with malaria?

This happened.
In Odessa, this happened.

“I’ll come at four,” promised Maria.

Eight…
Nine…
Ten.

Soon after,
The evening,
Frowning,
And Decemberish,

Left the windows
And vanished in dire darkness.

Behind me, I hear the neighing and laughter
Of candelabras.

You wouldn’t recognize me if you knew me prior:
A bulk of sinews
Moaning,
Fidgeting.
What can such a clod desire?
But a clod desires many things.

Because for oneself it doesn’t matter
Whether you’re cast of copper
Or whether the heart is cold metal.
At night, you want to wrap your clamor
In something feminine,
Gentle.

And thus,
Enormous,
I hunch in the frame,
And with my forehead, I melt the window glass.
Will this love be tremendous or lame?
Will it sustain or pass?
A big one wouldn’t fit a body like this:
It must be a little love, — a baby, sort of,
It shies away when the cars honk and hiss,
But adores the bells on the horse-tram.
I come face to face
With the rippling rain,
Yet once more,
And wait
Splashed by the city surf’s thundering roar.

Running amok with a knife outside,
The night caught up to him
And stabbed him,
Unseen.

The stroke of midnight
Fell like a head from a guillotine.

The silver raindrops on the windowpane
Were piling a grimace
And yelling.
It was as if the gargoyles of Notre Dame
Started yelping.

Damn you!
Haven’t you had enough yet?
Cries will soon cut my throat all around.

I heard:
Softly,
Like a patient out of his bed,
A nerve leapt
Down.
At first,
He barely moved.
Then, apprehensive
And distinct,
He started prancing.
And now, he and another two,
Darted about, step-dancing.

On the ground floor, the plaster was falling fast.
[...]

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Poem written by an 8 year old going round on Twitter, what do you think?

https://twitter.com/jackshoegazer/status/1127224707974094848

>> No.13101947

>>13101927
Well, it's written by an 8 year old. The only other option is that it's some post-modern contemporary artist installation.

>> No.13101966

>>13101947
I guess. Was just asking since everyone in the tweets mentions thinks it's incredible.

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>>13101966
>everyone in the tweets mentions thinks it's incredible
Well, people are easily impressed nowadays. I was reading Borodino by memory when I was something like 3 or maybe 4.
Pic is a 6-7 y/o kid from XXIII century making an "self-portrait" of him being a badass horsed knight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onfim

>> No.13102051

But where's the rhyme? Where's the meter? Idk man, not really my thing.

>> No.13102150

>>13100077
I really like this

>> No.13102166

Dusty sands of the City of Irem
Lay heavy upon the stones in dream,
Tracing memories upon the surface
But still fearing the unholy purpose
Of the Giants, Magog and Gog,
Holding those of god agog
To how they left with their power.
An homage to that depthless hour,
Spent searching the Nameless City,
Sighted from a dune seeped in perfidy
by a man madly forming poetry.

>> No.13102413

>>13097373
include titles when quoting poetry, you fuck

>> No.13102426

>>13097512
only a journalist could sincerely believe that poetry "strays away from explicitness and clarity." I give you 1/10 for earning the (you)

>> No.13102433

>>13097891
>I I I I I
>me my me my me
that's gay as fuck

>> No.13102444

>>13099458
how old are you? unironically

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>>13100482

>> No.13102454

>>13101085
-∞/10

>> No.13102457

>>13102445
Why tho?

>> No.13102483

>>13102457
the explanation would be exactly as long as all the thousands of poems I've ever read

>> No.13102508

>>13102483
It just means that you're unable to formulate your thoughts short enough. There's no reason to act like an asshole.

>> No.13102514

>>13102508
not trying to be an asshole. what I'm telling you is to read more poetry. I could give you line edits but that would do you less good than a book of poems

>> No.13102525

>>13102514
Ive read quite a few poetry. Maybe not that much, but plenty. You could at least say if you have some grammatical, lexical or whatever type of issue, or just say "it's too generic, don't like it". English is my second language, I might do some mistakes.

>> No.13102546

>>13102457
Cliches:

>eternal night
>perfect cold
>cosmic throne
>blazing ball
>dead stardust
>doom of universal end
>time will cease
>color fade
>still blazing
>not alive nor dead
>untimely love
>pristine and pure (in the context of love)
>earthen grasp
>any memento mori shit directed to "my dear"

There's a cliche in every single line. No new wit nor new image nor interesting perspective is revealed. Why are you so keen to beat the corpse of long dead themes and styles?

>> No.13102593

>>13102426
Are you retarded?
The whole reason poetry is good is because it is shrouded in mystery and favors beauty over analysis
Don’t deny the obvious just to have an argument

>> No.13102603

>>13100482
I liked it anon. Not the best but better than most of the free verse trash posted here

>> No.13102617

>>13102546
Well, this is legit and true, thanks. I posted a couple other things here before, and anons told me it's like the The Rime of the Ancient Mariner all over again.
>Why are you so keen to beat the corpse of long dead themes and styles?
One reason being that you learn from what you read, like father like son. Other is that what I end up with depends on the mood, I won't try to superficially change what I write just for the sake of it sounding less cliche if it's what I really do want to say. Another is that I don't really write anything from a "writer perspective" so to say, for me it's just a manner of "recursive psychotherapy" if it makes any sense. I perfectly realize that some parts of what I write won't even make the slightest bit of sense for people who don't know me personally. Either way, thank you for taking time to respond.
Here's another one, I figure it might maybe be a bit better, but realistically it's pretty much the same style.

From all that I've ever knew ran I away
Along with the ceaseless current of time;
And same as clock hands I just could not stay,
Succumbing myself under shackling rime.

Woe is me, little thus far did I know
That to nought would come this futile stampede,
For was my pursuer a thorn-wreathed crow,
Who carried the sorrow's bittering seed.

Him I discern, even sated with snow.
Still holds in talons this odious wight
An omen of grief that I can't forgo,
And hides back in pitch-black profound of night.

Last remnants of warmth had vanished throughout.
Woe is me, the sphere of the world is split:
One half wrapped in winter's somnolent shroud,
Other peers at verge of celestial pit.

Creeping within, for uncounted eras
Were constellations enkindled and nixed.
Whereof whisper these stellar chimeras
Midst devoid of all life space inbetwyxt?

And now, as the clockwork went roundly still,
Whole frigid orb comes alike to a halt.
Woe is me, we both, pierced to marrow with chill,
Precipitate down empyrean vault.

I can not be saved, I'm as good as dead,
This foreign welkin shall make my tombstone.
Deep down beneath mine lids, in swollen dread
The iris of my eyes at last are drown.

Yet, as our souls we entwined in a kiss,
Has bound thine witchcraft together us two.
Sharing days with you is all that I miss.
Oh, woe is me, I am still loving you.

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>>13102603
Thank you, anon.

>> No.13103902

>>13102593
(you) are the true retard for believing a poem may be anything but explicit and clear. Maybe you believe this because your own piddling verses retreat to a mental refuge of the obscure and the ambiguous

>> No.13104072

A tree is planted within me,
Written frequent with soul’s pages,
Leaves are torn from my heart
And burnt upon an altar.
These offerings of spring
Sprung from lost times anew,
A whispered breeze – death
Upon the wind – brittle in meaning,
Alight stars on strings together.

>> No.13104142

>>13101107
Found this while looking up the original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2ysDFSYIBk

>> No.13104182

Blaga is legit but Stanescu is better (especially his elegies).

Clearly this thread is filled with ignorant anglos but oh well.

>> No.13104208

>>13102593
Do you like Tennyson's famous poem "Break, Break, Break"?
It's very clearly about the feelings of alienation that come with mourning. Is it not a good poem? What about it isn't explicit and clear?

>> No.13104248

>>13100482
>>13102617
Both of these scan awkwardly.

>> No.13104470

just wrote this on the shitter:

Sit I with an idle mind
The middle of the day.
Books piled high,
All broken-spined,
And with yet much to say.
My notebooks, which I rightly hide,
Are naught but bales of hay.
When I through the window spied
A blue-sky-feathered jay
I wiped my eyes, deeply sighed,
Turned, and walked away.
Now I at my table scribe
and wonder what doves say.
Not the false hawk-calls or yawns
which just turn love away.
An empty mind, a bird defied:
Which words are mine?
Whose song quote they?

>> No.13104626

>>13101085
Why do poets always
split up their sentences across
metered lines? Structure.

>> No.13104721

>>13101085
Many reasons.

April is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain.
Winter kept us warm, covering
Earth in forgetful snow, feeding
A little life with dried tubers.

Note that it's all structured around ending most lines with -ing verbs, and how that pulls you along to the next line. It creates a "tension" that the next line resolves. Complete phrase, verb that begins the next phrase, the rest of the phrase, verb that begins the next phrase, the rest of the phrase, etc.
Good poets break their lines in ways that add or emphasize meaning and/or structure.
Bad
poets break
lines in ways that make
no
f
uckin
g
sense
.

>> No.13104975

>>13103902
>yeah we’ll youre stupid cause you are
Brilliant

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>>13102622
t sticle face unsuitable for a blue board

>> No.13105135

>>13100592
unironically gay

>> No.13105149

>>13101927
if actually by an 8 year old that kid will be the greatest writer alive by 30

>> No.13105161

>>13102413
If you haven't read that poem before I don't want to have anything to do with you

>> No.13105400

>>13105149
children are god-tier poets

>> No.13105591

>>13097373
I cannot find the original version
Could you please post it for us?

>> No.13105647

>>13102617
This is just as cliche-ridden as the previous one. One of the things you have to ask yourself is how to gain the most from every line or word. For example do you really need to describe night as 'pitch black and profound'? That's both redundant and melodramatic.

You mention Coleridge and if you really want to "learn from what you read" I suggest drawing more techniques from him. Coleridge has one of the clearest and most poetically succinct styles in English. Every image in the Rime stands out like glass. This image when the boat first appears for example

The western wave was all a-flame.
The day was well nigh done!
Almost upon the western wave
Rested the broad bright Sun;
When that strange shape drove suddenly
Betwixt us and the Sun.

Cut out everything murky and melodramatic in your poetry. Focus on clarity and succinct communication. You aren't able to make it work like the Romantics or any other good poet yet.

>> No.13105923

>>13105161
why don't you kill you're self and join your czech dadi

>> No.13106537

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44687/the-nymph-complaining-for-the-death-of-her-fawn

Had it liv’d long it would have been
Lilies without, roses within

>> No.13106617

>>13096812
This is pretty bad
>>13101113
Well I see why now, If that were the case why did OP decide to post the English version when it's so terrible. It reminds me of a kid back in my poetry club who thought he was super enlightened, too . which all of poems sounded the same.

>> No.13106640

>light lmao

>> No.13106662

>>13101113
shit like this is why they say you have to be a poet to translate poetry