/lit/ - Literature

>>13067591
What are you talking about?

>>13067591
Christopher Lasch talked about this as a symptom of the obliteration of a stable sense of self

>>13067598
When writers make the conscious choice to use "u" instead of "you"

>>13067620

What's more baffling is that this person used "u" and "you" in the same message

>>13067942
They're flirting, the "u" is supposed to make it seem like a casual request, but the "you" shows they're nervous and have probably rewritten this message at least once. Learn to read subtext, grandpa.

>>13067959
>Learn to read subtext

Assuming anyone on /lit/ is able to understand subtext. top kek. just watch every philosophy thread ever.

>>13067959
That she's nervous doesn't necessarily imply flirtation, she could be nervous because this is essentially an illegal request in text, like talking to a drug dealer (otherwise why wouldn't she buy the alcohol herself?), so she wants to phrase it as delicately as possible in order to maximize the chances of an affirmative reply.

wtf is 'big big valid'

>>13068366
i dont know the half-baked lingo, but it seems to mean affirmative/understood

>>13068366
I'd guess something like "that's reasonable" or even "that's a valid reason".

>>13068660
NO

>>13067959
the fuck you mean? are kids seriously doing this shit on purpose?

>>13067620
Writing u instead of you is not a matter of syntax

>>13068366
this. I have an extremely zoomer vocabulary and even I haven't heard someone say that shit
t. 19 year old college freshman surrounded by "that's a mood" and similar shit

woow heckin pupper aaaa???? cute doggo,,,,hashtag retweet

>>13068927
>"that's a mood"
haven't heard this one before. what's it mean, and in what contexts is it used?

>>13068950
it's a stock phrase to respond to anything bad happening to anyone else, as an expression of sympathy
>I got a D on the midterm
>oof / that's a mood / big oof / big mood

>>13068961
why "that's a mood"? how did this expression come about

>>13068966
I think it came from Twitter, but I'm not certain. it's definitely influenced by the rise of pessimistic/depressed "relatable" memes, but the source of the exact wording eludes me

>>13068966
Anytime white kids start saying some stupid shit assume they got it from a black guy

>>13069044
and that a jew payed the black guy to say it

>>13067959
what the fuck

>>13068003
Kids aren’t nervous about doing illegal shit. She’s into him. You could tell by the way she still seeks appeasement even after his kurt denial of her request if you weren’t an autist.

>>13067591
this doesnt sound like tumblr, its aim/fb messenger/gchat

>>13068927
>big mood
>honestly me
>tag yourself
how many fucking different ways do zoomers need to say "I relate to this funny relatable situation haha"
t. zoomer

>big big valid

>>13069108
if someone ever said that to me i would never speak to them again

>big big valid
What the fuck, am I already becoming an old man? I’ve never even heard of this and I’m a zoomer myself

>>13069070
>kurt
She wants to continue to believe that he may purchase alcohol for her in the future. If you're flirting with someone, you don't offer them financial compensation. She would invite him to go camping. And I don't know how old you are, but I was highly nervous about doing illegal things when I first started doing them, especially text requests for illicit substances or substances procured for illicit use. That's what this looks like to me. I think you're thinking with your dick, here.

>>13069104
honestly, I don't know, but all I can say is that it's big relatable

>>13069120
I'm 21 and this is the first time I've ever heard of this. Looks like you and I are over the hill.

>>13069108
>>13069120
this is definitely tumblr-speak, they use words like "valid" and "expression" and a lot of the rhetoric of bubble gum identity-driven progressivism with even less substance. It stems from a bunch of feel-good vibes with some psychological/clinical window dressing

Vernacular language has always been a think. It's how languages broke off from Latin and became Italian, French etc

>>13067959
well it seems like she's underage

>>13067591
well it's like any kind of generational patter isn't it?

>>13067591
wow you're like the oblivious anon reading nietzsche only you're not a meme

>>13069070
>>13067959
lol its probably his sister you psychos

and it's easy to discern what 'big big valid' means from context if you're familiar with "big mood" or "__ is valid", it's just a slight mutation- slang is malleable like that

>>13069173
That she is below the requisite purchasing age is an absolute certainty. She has the money to pay for alcohol or else she wouldn't have offered to pay him, and she must be underage to do this otherwise she would buy the alcohol herself.

>>13069216
your reasoning is flawless

>>13069238
I don't see a flaw. If she were his brother then it I'm sure there would be no need to preface the text with her name, and if she were of age but simply couldn't get to the liquor store for lack of time or transportation she wouldn't call it a "weird question." This is as close as you can get to apodicticity in a text message.

>>13069104
It's just language you nitwit

>>13067591
My favourite is ivory tower university n*groids and wh*te girls saying “ya’ll” in a trite imitation of lower class POC.

>>13069301
>POC
shut the fuck up

it will die as it is replaced by something you will doubtless find even more senseless and debased

such is the way of language

>>13069265
yeah. we were in agreement.
>If she were his brother then it I'm sure there would be no need to preface the text with her name
not necessarily. last time i texted my brother was september

>>13069301
This shit. This shit makes my fucking skin crawl. Scarcely anything more nauseating than listening to a WASP adjunct who's only upper middle class because she married into a Jewish family pronounce "y'all" with that cheese-grating nasally "a." Like acupuncture for your ear drums

>>13069301
girls (and boys) at english universities do this as well but with south london roadman dialect

>>13069301
as someone who grew up in Tennessee and now lives in California, absofuckinglutely this

I still can't get over Pynchon using 'sez' and occasion emoticons.

>>13069104
>how many fucking different ways do zoomers need to say "I relate to this funny relatable situation haha"
They need a million ways because that one sentiment makes up 50% of social media, and saying it the same way gets boring.

>>13069393
Pynchon did it ironically though

literally who cares. this isn't ruining anyones life

>>13069431
imagine being a woman lmao

>>13069393
she looks like the kind of girl who would flirt with her students if she were a teacher

so hot

>oh fuck oh no these kids are ruining the language with these wrong and made-up words and shitty syntax
>said the 4channelers
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_4chan_slang

>>13069486
why do you post smug anime photos

do you think you are smart

or clever

because if you do

you are not

>>13069486
>>13069535
One punch man is one of those things like Scott pilgrim where if a person posts a pic of it I just think “lol.. sad” very transparent, revealing the naked core of their soul. sadboy romanticism and irony. Interesting wiki link though

>>13069580
Interesting. I just found the pic effective at conveying the smugness, didn't know it had any particular aura. Never saw the anime.

>>13067959
god what goes through the insect lizard brains of these pua bugpeople

>>13069608
Sorry. Youre cured.. don’t worry. The analysis is no longer applicable

>>13069301
>ivory tower university n*groids
Almost all blacks in America talk like this though. Even the middle class and upper class ones. They put on a fake white voice when they're in a professional setting and they talk hood at home and with fellow blacks. They think broken hood slang is their "language."

>>13069104
It's forgivable when zoomers do it, you grew up into net culture as facebook capitalized on narcissism.

What drives me crazy is when millennials do it. Had a friend chatted with online since I was 14. We finally met irl in our mid 20's and she suddenly only knew how to talk in these trite memes and vine shit. Even to shut me down on serious subjects. eg: "can't relate"

>>13069689
>broken hood slang
umm its called AAVE dude

>>13069896
Call it whatever you want. It's still broken hood slang.

>>13069689
>>13069930
>prescriptive linguistics

>>13069938
Yep, fuck having having standards!

>>13069938
The effort that over-educated bugs put into defending the anti-intellectualism of blacks is truly something to behold

>>13067591
big mood

>>13069938
there's a difference between prescriptive linguistics and dislike 'linguistic evolution' that obviously has an agenda behind it

>>13069951
>>13069962
>>13069981
>hey we're going to start using more complicated verbal aspects and moods to make our dialect of English more able to express complicated ideas
>JEWDIDIT LOLOLOL SO SIMPLISTIC AND INCORRECT OBVIOUSLY ANTI-INTELLECTUAL AND AGENDA DRIVEN XXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>13070005
wow

>>13067591
This book will answer all of your questions.

>>13070005
based schizo

>>13070005
yeah, shakespeare used a colourful (ungrammatical) dialect & coined new words

>>13070005
You seem a little upset, DeShawn.

>>13070042
>>13070066
thanks
>>13070100
I assume your point is that the Shakespeare was a Jew, and while Shakespeare authorship debates are interesting, they're currently irrelevant
>>13070110
I'm white thanks

>>13070112
>I'm white thanks
you're not white you're a swpl

>>13070112
>shakespeare was a jew
>"white"
>>>/pol/

>>13070114
are you misspelling WASP on purpose?
>>13070131
I didn't say Shakespeare was a Jew, I said that he implied Shakespeare was a Jew. learn to read

>>13070112
... no my point was shakespeare was on the side of new ‘anti-intellectual’ language ie I was agreeing w you

and shakespeare authorship debates are anything but interesting

>>13067591
>big valid
wtf is that even supposed to mean?

>>13070151
oh cool, sorry to mischaracterize you. and just to be clear, my calling the debates interesting was meant to be sarcastic

>>13070139
>>>/pol/
shoo nazi

>>13069301
Just say brown people or niggers, anon, no one is watching behind you
Unless you live in Britbongistan of course.

>>13070172
oof

>>13070131
>>13070179
this is a white nationalist board, begone transexual

>>13070194
>not sensing the irony
stop making us look bad retard

>>13070179
holy shit, you're telling an egalitarian idpol socialist libtard sjw cuck to go back to /pol/ for a slightly edgy side-remark. is anything short of pic related nazism to you?

>>13070201
b8d very hard

>>13070212
>n-no u
we're on levels of meta b8 that shouldn't even be possible desu (I typed out desu (I didn't actually type out desu there(but I did type it there)))

>>13070224
now this is podracing

>>13067591
Am I the only one who feels bad for this kid?

>>13070242
yeah, having to be 21 to buy alcohol is dumb

>>13070005
White managerial-professionals using 'y'all' to seem down to Earth and folksy isn't above criticism.

>>13070190
>zoomer answer
le oof le mumblerap le horse in the back maymay

>>13070600
>em asoluto estado de soomeRs

>>13069486
>an hero (third-person singular simple present "an heros," present participle "an heroing," simple past and past participle "an heroed")

this entire thread is embarrassing

you take pride in your inability to parse the meanings of unfamiliar phrases

this is literal boomer behavior, stop it

>>13070665
I don't take pride in it, I'm genuinely concerned

>>13070665
here have a (You) uWu im just feeling EXTRA today U.U xD xd D XD

>>13070242
Don't. Underage kids should not be drinking alcohol anyway.
>>13070665
This, to be quite desu

>>13067620
People have been doing that long before tumblr was even a thing.

>>13070634
How fucking new.

>>13069120
rip

>>13067591
Grace is an ugly chick. Ask me how I know.

>>13067959
I would have to agree with this kind of, especially with the inclusion of aaaa and the need to use parentheses when identifying who they are, they sound incredibly insecure and is semi interested in the receiver and probably salivates over conan obrien

>>13071223
How do you know

>>13069437
Like that one of your mother's friends who's a bit too happy to hug you when you're in senior high and she visits the house

>>13071570
A man of the world, I see.

>>13067959
u serious, you can't be serious, tell me u r not serious

>>13069048
kek

>>13070005
yikes department

>>13068366
Cloud Atlas fucked up zoomer thinking. The movie, I mean. Every time there’s discussion, it’s a big sad. Any time someone trips on a stairwell, if just briefly, small oof. They’re just dumb, breathing sound effects and elementary feelings.

:)

>>13067591
this is a problem for me because I can no longer respect my peers as human beings after I hear them say something like "big oof"

ITT: Examples of why America isn't great anymore.
The dumbing down of 'Merica into a nation of brainlets

>>13069431
If language degrades, we all suffer.

>>13068366
BIG BIG STUPID

>>13067959
*backs lincoln continental over this post*

>>13072681
big oof

>implying it'll die

>>13072681
seen anybody out it yet?

>>13070703
He's obviously laughing at the ridiculousness of the definition you autistic tryhard

>>13074507
sneed

>>13072737
unironically orange man
>Despite the constant negative press covfefe

>>13074537
He played inflection, not definition.

>>13067591
"syntax" and "books" appear in op's post, so clearly, this is about literature

>>13067591
holy fuck anon, grace must be a fucking cow cause I've never seen someone put up a wall this hard

>>13074667
kill yourself you whiney useless faggot

>>13071570
Dont remind me, anon. I dont want a boner right now

>>13067620
as long as people need to type messages on a device the size of a cell phone, shorthand like this will always be prevalent

>>13067591
this fuckin 2013 patter is mortifyingly embarassing and i can't believe its not dead yet

the internet is so staganant nowadays it's really weird

>>13070665
>muh boomer tier behaviour
>talking like im on twitter in 2014 is genuinely funny get with the time gramps!!!

do you know how pathetic it is to either:
>be 18+ yo yet so immersed in stupid fuckin trendy teen internet culture that you absorb this stuff through osmosis
or
>be "out of touch" yet proactively look up the new weekly black twitter word that replaces an already existing word but sounds gayer

so much of this language sounds horribly gay and is completely disposed of within a month or wears out its welcome and lasts for years, no one says senpai anymore but young girls think typing an elipses with commas is funny and quirky, both are absolutelty cringe worthy

>>13069123
>If you're flirting with someone, you don't offer them financial compensation.
You're such a virgin it's painful. A girl often plays it cool and then, later, in person, she might offer something beyond cash. Like her body for example. I'm being explicit so you can keep up. Girls don't want to come out and say it, that often makes them feel unattractive. They want YOU to make the move.

>And I don't know how old you are, but I was highly nervous about doing illegal things when I first started doing them
I believe you. I'm sure you were very nervous that one time you jay-walked in your suburban residential neighborhood.

>I think you're thinking with your dick, here.
I'm thinking, which is more than I can say for you.

>>13068966
"That's a mood coming ove me" or something like that. It's not that hard to understand.

>>13070665
based

>>13069321
>>13069344
>>13069390
>>13069689
literally what the fuck are y'all talking about.

I'm from Texas and literally everybody uses "y'all" whether from the suburbs, the city, the country or the ghetto. Does it really carry a weird connotation when used elsewhere? I mean if anything I figured white people were more likely to use it.

Guys I know the way women and gay men type is irritating but you didn't need to make an entire thread about this

>>13075051
t. delusional bug

>>13067606
>Christopher Lasch, d.1994

>>13075051
We’re talking about Yankees and non-American wokeoids here

>>13074521
what