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Does anyone else find it peculiar that racist /pol/tards denounce migrants and yet the Aeneid is litteraly about a turk refugee who becomes the founding father of the once greatest civilization on earth? Was Virgil right about fate and migration?

>inb4 the Aeneid isn't real

>> No.13043829

I got a felling this is going to be a great thread.

>> No.13043834

>>13043829
>felling
already a good start by me

>> No.13043838

>>13043825
Jewish propaganda obviously

>> No.13043840

Yeah but the only guy who went the other way is Byron. It's what happens when you write mass appeal poems, your audience doesn't know it's been wronged to be forgiving.

>> No.13043846

>heh, if I wrap my political thread in a literary cover nobody will notice it's actually political..
Enjoy your ban faggot

>> No.13043855

>>13043846
this

>> No.13043857
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>>13043825
The Aeneid was Augustus commissioned propaganda.

>> No.13043860

>>13043846
oh man reddit whatever will you do now that OP bumped one of the thomas pynchon/deleuze/12 year old trying to be funny threads off the board

>> No.13043876

Are any of these modern migrants founding new civilizations like Aeneas?

>> No.13043879

It's not like they're going to read Ovid, don't make people read above their means as it disheartens them. Give them Catullus.

>> No.13043922

>>13043879
What

>> No.13043931
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>>13043857
>once fell in love with a 7 year old girl

>> No.13043933

>>13043922
Which part are you having trouble with?

>> No.13043941

>>13043825
>Turk
Sir, this is not the place to have a lesson in European ethnography, but you're about 2000 years off track with that one

>> No.13043954

>>13043857
>Bastard of two northerners
>named Sand
other than this I see nothing wrong

>> No.13043959

>>13043941
Nobody calls it Ionia anymore
https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg

>> No.13043973

He's a religious leader. He's taking the gods from Troy to found a new city (a religious organization), Rome.

>> No.13043978

>>13043933
What Ovid or catullus have to do with this thread

>> No.13043986

>>13043978
Catullus would be of interest to them while Ovid would not.

>> No.13043988

>>13043986
To whom

>> No.13044000

>>13043825
>racist /pol/tards denounce migrants
There's no way to denounce that there is a push for mass migration into European nations in order to weaken them over the course of generations. If you can't admit that then you're simply ignoring fact.

>> No.13044001

>>13043986
Wait, you don't think Ovid wrote the aeneid do you?

>> No.13044021

Aeneas was a blond haired blue eyed Aryan. The Trojans and Dardanians were not the Turks of the modern day.

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>>13043825
You are aware that the Trojans are the baddies in the Aeneid, and the heroes are the italians who are being killed by the invaders.
>inb4 not understanding the tongue in cheek of Vrigil

>> No.13044060

>>13043988
To the Virgil admirers in OP
>>13044001
No, neither did Catullus.

>> No.13044065

turks are white

>> No.13044101

>>13044065
lmao NO
Turks are Black Bulls!!!!
KARABOGA!!!!

>> No.13044117

>>13043825
You can admire conquerors without wanting to be conquered.

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>>13043825
>Turk
>From Anatolia before the middle ages

>> No.13044174

>>13044060
Why wouldn't someone who likes Virgil like Ovid? Ovid borrowed heavily from Virgil

>> No.13044218

>>13044174
Actually he saw Vergil as having exhausted the forms that Vergil practiced, which led to Ovid writing about entirely different things in different ways: city life, affairs etc Most importantly, having seen that Vergil had finished off the heroic epic he made probably one of the most genius leaps of all time: putting a concept (metamorphosis) as the centre of a coherent narrative epic and followed its spirit through every possible permutation (which is the perfect correlation of subject and structure), which also as an aside is one of the if not the most significant compendiums of myth. Subjectively, I also think he's the superior poet, he's not as academic, austere and subtle as Vergil but less sentimental, more entertaining, readable, more varied and I prefer his imagery.

>> No.13044242

>>13043825
>Anatolia wasn't white over 3000 years ago
Yikes

>> No.13044343

>>13043954
The house Dayne is Dornish, my dear.

>> No.13044767

>>13044218
Based anon who types responses for me.