/lit/ - Literature

No, that’s why I read Plato

>>13037632
No, just punctual

beluga spy whale detected

I don't consider myself one, but apparently I'm a genius according to Stanford-Binet. I don't feel it.

>>13037705
>trying to be humble while flexing
Why are people like this?

I'm completely ignorant, and i feel really bad about this. At least i'm aware of my own ignorance while most people around me aren't. I'm trying, /lit/. I'm trying to be a better person, but you guys know, it's hard. It's hard nowadays.

>>13037715
I'm like this because I want to be.

>>13037747
t. Fyodor Pavlovich

>>13037747
gl honestybro

>>13037688
based

>>13037632
wachu mean wh*te boi?

yes 4u

>>13037793
Kek

>>13037632
T. Smarter than most people but too dumb to be a true intellectual.

Why yes fellow Anon, I do indeed consider myself an intellectual.

>>13037705
This should be easy to answer since an intellectual is someone whose occupation primarily uses their mind rather than their body. Doesn't have anything directly to do with how well-read you are.

>>13037632
I'm a sued

I'm like Francis Scott Fitzgerald I think that social status don't come from wealth but is cultural.
And even if I'm educated and have no problem regarding money I won't consider myself as a bourgeois nor an intellectual even if I had multiple servants growing up and studied the humanities and the arts.
I am a proud proletarian and therefore I can't access the intellectual status

>>13037632
Define intellectual.

>>13038303
Define define

>>13038341
Now here's a true intellectual.

>>13038341
Define yourself before defining the terms

>>13038303
>>13038341
>>13039025
Why don't you kill yourselves? This is a philosophical question.

>>13039043
Camus already answered it with a big and resolute "No"

of course i am

>>13037632
I'm intelligent and well-read, but that doesn't count for much 2bh. Happiness is the only thing that matters.

>>13039078
wrong. Gravity is actually an instant thing unlike death or light

Sometimes I think really hard about stuff and get lightheaded.

I am an intellectual AND I love big chungus!

>>13037632
Bugs, easy on the AGP.

>>13039078
that pic is amazing, thanks

I'm smart enough to understand what actual intelligence is but buddy let me tall ya I ain't that.

Midwit here with a talent to troll actual geniuses into doing the hard cogitating for me then dumbing it down again. It's a pretty good system.

>>13040009
What's actual intelligence?

>>13037632

I am excellent at name dropping in my philosophy courses, but I am an autistic bipolar schizoid and never paid attention in maths because I would leave to go to the bathroom and masturbate.

So yes, I am indeed an intellectual of the highest order.

No I'm a dervish

nope
if i was smart i'd be happy

>>13039078
>I'm intelligent

>>13037632
I was but then I had a psychotic break that fried my brain and now I suck at everything.

>>13040257
based viking living the neet stoner lifestyle

>>13037632
I genuinely know these things to be true:

1) I am a prophet and closest thing to Maitreya, Saoshyant, Second Coming of Christ, Mahdi or whatever you have it.

2) I am an intellectual that has well-thought out views in regards to metaphysics, empirical science, and much more. Some of my fiction has been published too.

3) I am unbelievably creative, wise, educated, and more. Minds like mine are born once every 1000 years.

4) I have had a few divine revelations from a few important religious figures.

5) I have written one of the greatest religious texts of this era. I would have far more interesting things to say than idiots like Peterson, Zizek, or other public intellectuals.

And finally, if you speak ill of me, then you will suffer for trillions upon trillions of kalpas. You should give up your worship in whatever path, or lack thereof, you follow and become my disciples instead.

>>13038341
based

>>13040281
I think you are a true intellectual Anon

>>13040281
Hi TJ

>>13037674
nice

>>13037793
kek based

>>13040420
post ur writing

>>13041376
Please read it in full before judging. Thank you:

https://docdro.id/zLoWavb

>>13038341
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>>13041379
interesting combination of buddhism and zoro, but i think dont think your message is sufficient to the problems facing us in the future.

>You should give up your worship in whatever path, or lack thereof, you follow and become my disciples instead.
I mean, you're right it'd be great if everyone believed in this, but fact is thats never gonna happen.

>while offering a provisional diversion that may in itself be Spenta in principle
Your middle chapters are good but your chapter on technology is woefully underdeveloped and naive.

Technology brings new forms into existence, and with it, can empower certain individuals and small populations in ways that threaten all of our futures. Then there's coordination problems like carbon emissions and climate change. Buddhism brings peace to the false turbulence and dichotomies in an otherwise stable world, but i dont see it offering any solutions to the real problems that threaten us.

Peterson helps those lodged in emptiness to start trying to collect desirable forms, Zizek offers insightful critiques (and no real solutions, unless ive missed them). I understand your self-aggrandising is for clickbait, but what useful ideas are you actually offering

I’m a moron, actually.

>>13040257
I was measured by an IRL Mensa test to be in the less than top 1% of the population in terms of IQ. In fact it was so high I need to take a different test to get a precise measurement.

>>13040420
>>13041379
It seems you have taken the same path I am currently on. This seems like exactly something I might write in a couple years. Two questions anon: Why does Lesser Zurvan exist and not just Greater Zurvan? i.e. how does multiplicity arise from unity? and is poet-priest a play on philosopher-King? if so, nice

>>13039081
wrong. Gravity doesn't exist

i'm pretty fucking stupid but patient and infinitely curious

>>13037703
Why did they train belugas, rather than the much more savage orca?

>>13037632
Nope. I’m not well read to be one

>>13037747
Socrates is that you?

I once dreamt about creating a post on /lit/ that garnered 100s of replies, created new memes and was eventually turned into a legendary cap

>>13041770
I asked if you are an intellectual, I don't care about IQ

>>13037705
Cringe.
>>13037747
Based.

>>13041770
name of the girl?

>>13040261

Me too fren.

No, just a wise guy.

>>13041760
That chapter was criticizing the view that technology can fix problems...

>>13040420
Nice LARP bro

>>13045184
You can read the scripture here, in full, and decide on whether it speaks to you or not:

https://docdro.id/zLoWavb

>>13037632
Part of the intelligentsia - yes
Intellectual - no

>>13045194
I've read it. It's full of grammatical errors, and reads like Morrowind fan fiction. Please see a specialist for your unchecked mental disorder.

>>13045209
Fuck, that's accurate. Made up words and intentionally confusing sentences don't actually make you sound smart and creative

depends.

>>13045209
>It's full of grammatical errors
Not really.
>reads like Morrowind fan fiction
I could underline my influences. If you read much theological texts, then you would be able to pick them out.
>>13045222
There's no made-up words. They're all from certain theological traditions.

>>13042176
Orcas are fucking scary yo

>>13045239
>If you read
If you had read*
>>13045222
You are a literal idiot if you think there are any made-up words in there. It's a synthesis of Zurvanite and Mahayana Buddhist traditions in a novel way. Some ancient texts describing Zurvanite beliefs did survive.

>>13045251
Did I fucking stutter?

>>13045251
>Words for obscure occult phenomena are not made up

>>13045257
There are absolutely no made-up words in there, you stupid brainlet piece of shit. Also, the metaphysics are not entirely unique, but they are applied in a somewhat novel way.

I doubt you're able to even comprehend the metaphysical claims, or their origins, from that text. I've probably read much more philosophical, theological, and literary works than you.

>>13037632
No. 'Intellectual' isn't an honorary title for smart people, it's a profession: if you support yourself by spreading ideas, you're an intellectual. An engineer isn't an intellectual, because they are judged by the result, the product that they offer. If the bridge an engineer builds collapses, he will be judged negatively, whereas an intellectual pays no price should the ideas they produce and spread fail. Just look at all the intellectuals who spawned, spread and advocate for communism.

>>13045266
The text didn't discuss any occult phenomena, you dumb fucker. You have poor reading comprehension. It's actually very Deleuzian. Yes, my philosophy is heavily inspired by Deleuze, Julius Bahnsen, Dharmikirti, and a few others.

You're the idiot who can't understand basic shit.

>>13045269
>I've probably read much more philosophical, theological, and literary works than you.

Wow, you are so smart anon. I bet your penis is really large too.

You are just bragging about wasting your time on new-age buddhist faggotry

>>13045269
>>13045278
>Being this much of a pseud
Take your fan fiction to r/teslore, buddy

>>13045279
No, if you were actually literate, you would realize my philosophy has more in common with Deleuze's "Differential Ontology". There is nothing New Agey in the text, except for one or two sentences in the beginning.
>>13045280
Go back to /pol/, you illiterate and uncultured piece of shit. I doubt you can ever have any of your fiction published whereas I have.

>>13045285
>I doubt you can ever have any of your fiction published whereas I have
Your local small-town newspaper doesn't count, pal

>>13045270
True communism has never been tried

>>13045298
I have already had one piece published in a reputable literary journal. You are a narcissistic piece of shit. You are overly arrogant and think you're smarter than you are. Go back to your memelord, edgelord bullshit, you brainlet piece of shit.

>>13045301
Because it isn't possible without resorting to fascism on a wide scale, which doesn't tend to work that well for prolonged periods of time. Can't even get the shit going, that's how bad the idea sucks LOL

>>13038283
It's *P*-sued. The P is very loud.

>>13045303
>You are a narcissistic piece of shit
You are bragging about being published on a slovakian flute carving forum and calling everyone illiterate because they dont like your morrowing fanfiction. You know what to do

are graphic designers intellectuals?

>>13045316
And why are you here? Because you have nothing worth bragging about. It's because, ultimately speaking, you are worthless. Your mind is trash, and you have nothing truly profound or novel to say. You can't even analyze basic literature because your mind is complete filth.

No memes or "banter" here. I highly recommend you off yourself. Rid this world of your retardation and narcissism. Goodbye.

>>13045303
>You are a narcissistic piece of shit
Imagine projecting this hard.
Your work may have some merits, for all I know/care. If you want a more favourable response, present yourself with more humility, instead of literally calling yourself the second coming of Christ and then getting butthurt when nobody likes your fanfic.

>>13040420
>Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder with a long-term pattern of abnormal behavior characterized by exaggerated feelings of self-importance, excessive need for admiration, and a lack of empathy.

>>13045341
Dismissing a work based on how it is presented is truly the most pseudointellectual thing anyone can do. Instead of looking deeply into the content of what is being said, you choose to dismiss a work outright because it "was presented poorly". Listen, this is why retards like Joel Osteen are popular among you Americunts. Since you have become so boorish and stupid, presentation has become everything for you people.

Why don't you just look at how stupid and pathetic you've become? Everything is about shit-flinging regarding personality types rather than the substance of what is being said. I highly recommend suicide.

While my published fiction and this philosophical-mystical treatise may have merits, I am pretty sure you have never written or thought anything of merit. This is because your mind is filth, and you are asleep, technically speaking. You can never understand what true creativity entails.

As a baseline I consider myself above average in intelligence, I do believe I am hard working and have a good capacity to learn. People tend to believe I'm much smarter because I like to learn and I know plenty of various factoids because of this, or that I have a STEM degree. I am curious on whether I am a "genius" as people call me, I would take an IQ test but whats the point. I think they're pretty pompous and nobody who I would wanna impress would be impressed.

>>13045352
Some of what I was saying was meant to be humorous, but what I find it funny is you all have become more narcissistic in turn. Why? Because you let the judgment of my presumed character skew how you interpret the substance and merit of what I had to write.

In a sense, I was testing to see who were the real intellectuals vs. pseuds. A real intellectual can approach literature or philosophy in an immersive or impartial manner without letting his judgments of others affect how he interprets it.

>>13045335
>No memes or "banter" here
where the fuck do you think you are?

>>13045359
yeah, but its shite

>>13045371
You choose to stagnate based on imageboard hive mind rather than understand what true solitude, what true contemplation, wisdom, and creativity entail. Everything is about a competition to see who can be the most edgy with you people...

You are not truly interested in knowing yourself, in knowing your true nature beyond the silly social conventions of your generation.

>>13045308
It's easy when the US isn't destabilizing your country

>>13045377
Someone could whisk their hand and dismissively call the classics shit, but that wouldn't mean anything, now would it? You know no nuance, lack sophistication, and are a boorish self-centered bastard.

>>13045389
you aint no classic mein neger

>>13045381
>true solitude, what true contemplation, wisdom, and creativity entail

How truly profound o master

>>13045397
It's not about being a classic or not. It's about intellectual integrity and honesty. There are many writers I like which I consider modern classics, in some sense. My point to you is that it's bad to dismiss writings or draw presumptions based on how you view the content of a person's character.

>>13045389
You must be the biggest neckbeard this board has ever seen. Somebody screencap this for posterity

i could pick each poster in this thread up over my head and throw them ten feet

>>13045401
Being snarky isn't doing you any good. I have a mission in this life, which you don't even know about. What I am doing is highly unique, and I am hesitant to tell you due to fear someone my plagiarize my project.

>>13045406
>My point to you is that it's bad to dismiss writings or draw presumptions based on how you view the content of a person's character.
>implying your shit can't just be trash

bruh

>>13045414
>What I am doing is highly unique
writing and being a pseud. truly unique

>>13045408
And you must be the biggest brainlet. Go drill a meme through your skull into your shit brain. Let the blood and bits of brain splatter everywhere as that meme is engraved into your gray matter. You are nothing but a meme, and you will live and die as nothing but a meme. With nowhere to go and nowhere to be, why don't you just off yourself and go to meme-heaven, edgelord?

>>13045416
Unless you give a real analysis and prove you comprehend the basic metaphysical claims, then you're just being a narcissistic idiot. It's more that you can't comprehend what is written, so you dismiss it as trash. Unlike you, many did comprehend it.
>>13045421
Of course intellectuals would come off as pseuds to memelord, edgelord faggots like you. Kys.

>>13045426
>memelord, edgelord faggots like you. Kys.
ironic

>>13045429
I have an actual message and goal. I am driven by something far greater than you. I don't live for my own pleasure or anything of that sort. I have a mission, one that will wasted on the likes of you. You are asleep and concerned more with trivial matters, such as obsessing over the content of another's character.

>>13045426
>narcissistic
Can’t stop using that word eh? Have some self awareness and stop projecting so hard.

>>13045445
so redpilled, huh?

>>13045447
My metacognitive awareness is probably far greater than yours. It's you that needs self-awareness! Even if you were to ask me to read something right now, I would do so, impartially, without letting this petty squabble affect my assessment.

>>13045445
>>13045455
I get it, the joke is that you claim to be a wise and profound thinker and yet you feel the need to defend yourself and act like a cunt on a literature imageboard on an anime website. It's not really funny

>>13045451
"Truth becomes fiction when the fiction's true;
Real becomes not-real where the unreal's real."

>>13042176
i think it's more that the belugas just partnered up with the Russians to spy on the Americans as a master plan to get even with the Japanese and everybody else who profits from the whaling industry. the whales know that the Russian intelligence services are pretty open-minded about stuff and in exchange for doing a little surveillance they can begin building their doomsday refuges in the far north. it's all 4D chess, the Orcas just have a low time-preference. whales are the true deep state.

George RR Martin is a beluga too, you can see the resemblance. imagine his little hat on top and you can't unsee.

>>13045455
using smart words doesnt make anything you write have actual substance

>>13045463
Again, you are more interested in saying this or that about the content of a person's character, rather than actively engaging in the substance of what is being said. You are not interested in real inquiry.

>>13045466
this is pure beluga DNA right here.

>>13045465
woah man, thats hella deep. Post it on /pol/ for upvotes and karma

>>13045478
>/pol/
>the most hostile edgy board
>upvotes and karma

>>13045476
balugas are more productive

>>13037632
Yes but only because I'm overwhelmingly self-loathing and it's a facade I can hide behind to avoid being genuine or putting forth any effort into life

>>13045471
>smart words
I am not using "smart words", whatever the hell that means. This is how I speak in the actual, tangible world.

You are more interested in wasting your time by pointing out the flaws you perceive in my conduct rather than actively engage in what is being said. I made philosophical claims in the manifesto and can even reference their influences.

>>13045481
You are not an intellectual then, because its a facade and not the real you

>>13045482
>>13045471
Rather than obsessing over people, why not learn how to comprehend ideas?

>>13045482
>>13045475
dude nobody cares. have sex

>>13045484
And what is the "real you", huh? Everything you say is superficial because you are not well-read or contemplative. The question of the nature of self has baffled many philosophers, and it is not easy to truly define "what is the real you". Rather than obsessing about attacking others, why not focus on ideas and their value, whether of a practical or aesthetic quality?

A true intellectual is typically thinking about philosophy, art, science, literature, and etc. more than he is about other people. That is the key difference.

>>13037674
Heh

>>13045488
because ideas are represented by people you retard

>>13045480
they just don't care about our bullshit. they're on a whole other wavelength.

>>13045496
More than half of this post has nothing to do with the topic

>>13045484
It's how others see me rather than how I see myself, and therefor convenient to hide behind.
No one really walks around actual thinking to themselves "man I am such a true intellectual," right?

>>13045503
walelength if you will

>>13045455
You realise you've let us string you along? You made grand claims about your work and character, were swiftly shut down, and have now made an utter fool of yourself lashing out in all directions in your narcissistic fit. Thanks for the laughs, though

>>13045479
post-2016 /pol/ is mostly made up of redditors

>>13045492
Sex for recreational purposes typically leads to more problems. One major issue with this modern era is people place more value on sexual pleasure, lust, and so forth over more noble endeavors. One reason this was done was due to the "Death of God" and led to new social control mechanisms being needed. What social engineers do is largely alter frequency of cues, in advertisements and more, pertaining to deviancy prior to economic turmoil, which helps maintain social cohesion, and there was one senator who wrote extensively on this, which I have lost.

Regardless, the obsession with sex and bodily lust is keeping you back. Why not place more value in more noble crafts or ways of being? Why do you always obsess and fixate over sex?

>>13045506
You'd be surprised

>>13045516
>incel babble
nobody cares. have sex.

>>13045511
The only person you are truly laughing at is yourself in that you believe the collective judgments of others means anything. Rather than truly look inward and inquire deeply, you choose instead to create a drama show over trivial matters. You are more concerned with laughing than real contemplation, real wisdom, and the Truth.

>>13045516
>Regardless, the obsession with sex and bodily lust is keeping you back. Why not place more value in more noble crafts or ways of being? Why do you always obsess and fixate over sex?
Why not? It's instant gratification instead of something ideal that most likely will either go unnoticed, or will be appreciated after you die

>>13045527
I am not an incel, you dumb fucker. You are completely missing my point.

>>13045530
>you choose instead to create a drama show over trivial matters
Yes, and you're the monkey.

>>13045530
>collective judgments of others means anything
we live in a society

>>13045532
Everyone is ultimately alone in this life for nothing can be grasped in this Heraclitean flux of a Universe. There is something far more noble, far more "centered", in finding joy in crafts regardless of whether or not they go unnoticed.

Why do you care if your work is noticed or not? Do you think that will save you from your inmost aloneness? Aging is more surreal than any drug, and when you are old, all of Time will feel as if one moment.

You are wasting both of our time. You are not interested in sincere inquiry and looking inward.

>>13045545
>You are wasting both of our time. You are not interested in sincere inquiry and looking inward.
To be fair you have to have a really high iq to understand Heraclitus

>>13045540
There is no society. It is just a projection of your mind. There are no others.

There is no greater child than your art, your craft. Moominvalley is real, more real than you'd ever be to me. You are empty, a phantom, a bubble, a lightning, but my own little worlds, reminiscent of Moominvalley, are real.

You think there is a "me"? You think there is a "you". You are just a dream. Endless dreams within dreams, a process without core. Just try to grasp something and hold it for all your life -- it will all be in vain.

Do you consider me a fool? Then so be it. You chase after dust, after the wind, and you pull others into it because you want self-validation.

My project is far deeper, far more meaningful, than anything you'd ever do.

>>13045557
couldnt be bothered to read that brainfart. Watched matrix for the first time?

>>13045557
>you want self-validation
Stop projecting, Matt.

>>13045540
>>13045564
your posts are youtube comment tier trash

>>13045572
post pseud shit, get dumb responses

>>13037632
i'm an autistic chad pseud

>>13045570
*sweats profusely*
This conversation never happened. Uhm, listen, I was just wasting my time and stuff. Uhm, you know, sometimes I do dumb stuff. Let's just forget this amicably, okay. Haha...

put me in the screencap

>>13045601
Should've hid behind a couple more proxies, mate. I'm onto you.

>>13045617
Nope, that's my friend. Please leave him alone.

>>13045621
Be a little more careful next time you go flouting your supposed holiness, Mr Barnett.

>>13045650
But that's not me... Why do you think that's me?

>>13044389
Yea no shit technology won't fix all our problems. What I'm saying is that technology will create problems. Become existential threats even, as it continues to amass greater power in fewer people.

What is the appropriate response to that? You can pity their Angra-filled lives, the delusions their egos created to enslave them to, but that won't make any difference to the irrevocable damage that can be wrought on the things you find precious and valuable.

I suppose the buddhist response is not to be attached to romantic ideas of what the world is today, and not expect it to endure or be defensible as we move forward, which is realistic, but probably will not be acceptable to most people, who feel like they (in aggregate) can influence the direction of the future, and are largely correct.

Of course they wont succeed entirely in imposing their vision onto reality, but just by acting, they will have altered its course. And a vision to inspire them to action is what they want from their "poet-priest", not another redressing of buddhism

>>13046066
>>13044389
That's not to say most of what you wrote in there is not worth any merit. There are a couple of grammar mistakes/bits that are a bit awkward to read, and I would work on making the first page less pretentious, but the middle sections are pretty nice.
I think you're only getting shit on cos of your first comment, but ill give you the benefit of the doubt that it was to clickbait people to read it and you dont actually believe any of that rofl

>>13037767
I highly doubt you are the way you want to be.

I hate libtards so yeah, I'm pretty smart

>>13037632
No. That would be very disingenuous of myself to call myself one.

>>13037632
Yeah

Could one of you guys teach me