/lit/ - Literature

Lmao, what?!

is it strange i see where she's cumming from?

I hope you're aware how full of shit she is

>>1298838

She can't be full of shit; if she was then how would she fit all those cocks up her ass?

So, how are her porn flics different from anybody else's?

/lit/ needs more memes.

>>1298852
The fact that she circumvents the fact that she's a paid whore, and justifies her profession as a massive liberal movement, when in fat its all an obvious act to appeal to another demographic.

LOL SHE READS NEETCHER AAAAND GET TRIPLE DICKED FOR MONEY!? WHAT AN INTERESTING AND NOT AT ALL CULTURALLY POISONOUS HUMAN BEING

>>1298852
she's ky00t

Funny thing is, no matter how serious she might be with her intellectual pursuits, everybody else sees it as a gimmick. The hot porn girl who reads Nietzsche.

Has she ever spoken publicly in interviews about some of her favorite literary pieces?

>>1298845
Interesting point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ6zPch9fMM

5:13, she gets asked about her being an existentialist, she dodges pretty tactfully by bringing up that 5 minutes isn't enough time to talk about it. She can form complete sentences at some points in the interview, which is to say, better than most 4channers will ever be able to do.

Pathetically, she tells us that she is opposed to slave moralty. And then she allows men to fuck her ass for money. A whore is a slave. Her philosophy seems to preach "happiness in slavery" which is contemptible to true Nietzscheans.

>>1298887
>And then she allows men to fuck her ass for money. A whore is a slave.
Nope, slaves don't get paid, slaves don't decide what they do or don't do.

>>1298852

In all seriousness, Sasha Grey was pretty disruptive where mainstream porn is concerned. She is not a fake-blonde fake-tits bare-twat starlet and hasn't become one, in fact I can't think of a way she's changed at all, which is amazing; she does all the freaky shit but still does mainstream stuff and has gotten even more mainstream; she doesn't have a gimmick like fake squirting or fetish-scale tits; the way she talks in her scenes was--even if you hate it--a vitalizing breath of fresh air compared to the dull monotonous fake and exaggerated moans that plague almost all other porn. Oh my god I am actually writing about a pornstar instead of working on my novel what the fuck /lit/.

FUCKOFF BACK TO /mu/, LEWIS

>>1298893
bravo

>>1298887
i'm not sure if you get it, AT ALL.
NOTE THE EMPHASIS ON EMPHASIS

A porn star with an agenda?

No.

>>1298891
Just because you're getting paid doesn't mean you're not a slave. Sometime a slave is paid with nothing but food and shelter. Just because you have money doesn't mean you are not a slave. I don't you have any idea what Nietzsche means by slave morality.

>>1298906
thaaat's not really it either, but your argument definitely applies more.

>>1298905

>>1298910
Okay. Don't tell me where I'm wrong.

>>1298906
My point is she seems to have a good idea what she's willing to do and what not. These ideas might be a bit extreme for your taste but that doesn't make her a slave. Quite the opposite since she obviously doesn't care much about social conventions.

>>1298915
Yea I wont, because I pretty much agreed with what you were saying.
And looking at it again, I noticed that you didn't try to define what slave morality was, but just said what it wasn't - so actually I agree withya entirely.

I enjoy how the first phrase of my captcha is Pyrrhic.
Kinda like managing to post this while accomplishing nothing, but I didn't lose anything for it anyway so whatever.

>>1298921
I would believe her if she went into business for herself rather than just being comfortable doing whatever porno executives tell her to do.

Nietzsche was a cultural snob. He believed that we could fight our way out of slavery by creating high culture. It seems to me that Sasha is a lowly whore who is content making shit culture.

>>1298925
>Kinda like managing to post this while accomplishing nothing, but I didn't lose anything for it anyway so whatever.
Pyrrhic victories are nothing like that.

IT DOESN'T AMOUNT TO SHIT. I COULD READ FROM EVERY 'ELITE' AUTHOR AND TELL PEOPLE I HAVE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO DISCUSSIONS, I'D BE ASS FUCKED.

>>1298931
So is she.

>>1298931

>implying that she's actually read any of the people she's claim to be versed in.

You can't discuss something you know jack shit about, but you can pretend to if you want to attract a target demographic who also acts to know something they know nothing about.

(i.e. hipsters)

>>1298929
Yea I know. It was also spelled firric, so mediocre/different on both spellings and definitions.

>>1298933
>>1298937
THIS IS MY POINT.

>>1298897
>lewis
>implying lewis is a person

>>1298928
this is high art:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s0_QKL3O8s

I used to be someone who name dropped authors and philosophers all of the time to impress my professors and others. When I was asked to substantiate my learnings I of course had no fucking clue what to do and usually bullshat my way so hard that I'm sure a lot of people got second hand embarrassment.

When I see Sasha grey, I see my teenage self

>>1299148

this.

or: substitute Sasha Grey with the word /lit/ and that works, too

I don't know much about her, and I haven't watched much of her porn, but I do find myself sympathizing with her. Because of her profession, everyone assumes that she can't possibly have a thought in her head, and that her interest in literature, film, and philosophy must be affected, even though they don't have any evidence to back this up. It must be frustrating to tell someone about your interests only to be faced with condescension, derision, and disbelief.

What I think it comes down to is that people are tribal, and they like to keep perceived "social undesirables" out of their tribe. Whether it's fat people, drug addicts, the homeless, criminals, prostitutes, or porn stars, the average person doesn't want any of these "social undesirables" infecting the purity of their tribe. When they hear that a "lowly" porn star also likes Dostoevsky, Nietzsche, and Jean-Luc Godard, they're filled with unbearable contempt. Like a teenager pissed off that his favorite band became mainstream, they don't want to lose any of the prestige they feel is associated with their interests, so they try to keep the "social undesirable" out by discrediting her and treating her with an almost aristocratic disdain.

Really, it's pathetic. Anyone who isn't petty-minded shouldn't begrudge her for trying to better herself. Anyone possessing even an iota of self-awareness should realize why they hate her so much, and feel ashamed of their base tribalism. And anyone who genuinely doesn't give a shit about her shouldn't, you know, give enough of a shit about her to be outraged that she like some of the same things you like.

I don't know much about her, and I haven't watched much of her porn, but I do find myself sympathizing with her. Because of her profession, everyone assumes that she can't possibly have a thought in her head, and that her interest in literature, film, and philosophy must be affected, even though they don't have any evidence to back this up. It must be frustrating to tell someone about your interests only to be faced with condescension, derision, and disbelief.

What I think it comes down to is that people are tribal, and they like to keep perceived "social undesirables" out of their tribe. Whether it's fat people, drug addicts, the homeless, criminals, prostitutes, or porn stars, the average person doesn't want any of these "social undesirables" infecting the purity of their tribe. When they hear that a "lowly" porn star also likes Dostoevsky, Nietzsche, and Jean-Luc Godard, they're filled with unbearable contempt. Like a teenager pissed off that their favorite band became mainstream, they don't want to lose any of the prestige they feel is associated with their interests, so they try to keep the "social undesirable" out by discrediting her and treating her with an almost aristocratic disdain.

Really, it's pathetic. Anyone who isn't petty-minded shouldn't begrudge her for trying to better herself. Anyone possessing even an iota of self-awareness should realize why they hate her so much, and feel ashamed of their base tribalism. And anyone who genuinely doesn't give a shit about her shouldn't give enough of a shit about her to be outraged that she might actually share some of your interests.

I fail to see what slave morality has to do with being a slave, besides the fact that Nietzsche traces its genealogy to the ancient lower classes.

So I read this article in Rolling Stone about a year and a half ago.
Whenever she speaks, sperm comes out.
I'm sure she reads Nietzche, but who cares? A lot of young people who are annoyed by societies views do.
This doesn't make her seem more intelligent. She's still someone who gets paid to have sex for money on camera, and reading Nietzche is simple a hobby just like going golfing and murdering escorts is.
It's not really liberating to a majority of women. Most women are disgusted by her because of the outrageous things she does.
But then again, who gives a fuck?

>>1299323

Then what do you think she should stop doing?

That's right. Being fucked by dozens of men every week.

>>1299414
Isn't kowtowing to cultural norms slavelike?

>>1299415

Cut that out. Nietzsche is just a bunch of bullshit hypocritical nonsense.

If you don't want to be looked at like a whore, stop being a whore. Simple as that.

ITT: People who don't realize that unless you're upper class, we're all whores in one way or another.

>>1299429

>He actually believes this

pppffhhahahahahaha oh wow.

Come back when you turn 16, kid.

>>1299429
>implying that the upper class aren't whores

>>1299432
>>1299434
>implying you're not subject to the will of the upper class

Come back when you've got a brain.

>>1299448

>Implying anyone is subject to the will of anyone unless they chose to be.

>>1299480

>>1299480
>implying that's how the real world works

>>1299494
u should b ashamed of urself

>>1299494

>Implying you are not free to wander around the wilderness or simply commit suicide at any point.

You choose to remain in the comfortable grip of society of your own volition. Stop pretending you don't.

>He's afraid of coercive force!
>guffawingskanks.jpg

Sasha Grey likes Ulysses too.

>>1299516

she would not be so insufferable if she wasn't so fucking ugly.

>>1299507
So do you then.

>>1299505
> myspace shorthand on the literature board
Are you kidding?

>>1299507
Would like a word...

>>1299516
Does that mean she does fart and scat porn?

>>1299520

Never claimed otherwise, kid. This is all basic shit.

>>1299323
I don't think that's why people hate Sasha Grey. I think people would hate a filmmaker who spent his public time talking about how he likes Dostoyevski, or a senator who mentions his deep interest in the French New Wave in a speech, or a classmate who namedrops Nietzsche in class. The interests are conspicuously mentioned in a context where it's unnecessary to do so, so it strikes people as disingenuous.
Put a different way, people don't care if Sasha Grey actually enjoys or understands philosophy. It wouldn't matter if she did. The problem is that the namedrops act like a demand for respect. She isn't discussing the ideas and giving proper recognition to the authors, she's saying, "I read philosophy and watch artsy movies, and that is important. That makes me special." It's an assertion of dominance that people naturally resent.

>>1299532

clever and succinct. good job, anon.

>>1299532

Porn stars are individualist heroes.

>>1298858 people like this endorse a dreadful shame culture, which is also encouraged by lunatic Christians such as the author of this:
http://www.curatormagazine.com/christytennant/the-dehumanization-of-sasha-grey/

If she didn't fuck black guys, I might have a little more respect for her.

>>1299552

you ain't so clever as you think you is.

>>1299560

You disagree with what I'm saying? Why? XOXO

>>1299565
Because ksokso

Sweet mother of God! I can't believe anyone -- myself included -- is discussing this guttersnipe. What is it about Nietzsche that attracts the intellectually downtrodden? I don't get it. Never have. Such a marvelous, independent, ORIGINAL writer (though not in Schopenhauer's league, IMO). Yet he was adored by Nazis and every nincompoop since. Remember the Night Stalker (Richard Ramirez) trying to quote "Madness in individuals is rare ..." and forgetting it halfway? Typical.

Why can't people read Hume, or Aristotle, or Marcus Aurelius? The second I hear that so and so is into Nietzsche I know instantly he's a crank.

>>1299572

Ugly person without an argument confirmed.

>>1299565

because you blamed religion for society being grossed out by a chick that takes it up the ass by several guys a day.

That's just stupid. People don't like her partly because what >>1299532 said and also because the average person doesn't enjoy talking to people that they have seen vomit on dicks.

>>1299573
That's because Nietzsche himself was a crank.

>>1299573

dumb people and hipsters like Nietzsche because he doesn't actually make any sense. It makes them feel special to pretend they get it.

>>1299582
What do you think about male porn actors and people who watch porn. What do you think about Playboy Magazine?

>>1299582

I doubt many people but /lit/ pseudo-intellectuals (sorry, guys) would hate her for the reason that guy stated.

Most people would hate her because they see fit to judge others based on the fact that they have sex for money. Christian morality has stained Western attitudes to porn. It's slowly going away, which is nice, but the attitudes people show who presumably aren't religious leave a lot to be desired.

People should really acknowledge that there is nothing intrinsically special about sex and move on.

>>1299589
nietzsche is actually awesome, hope i was able to correct your mistake, happy to help

>>1299591

>Doesn't understand subtlety.

>>1299573
Philosophy is by and large inherently shit.

>>1299607
Frankly

I agree

Not directly nor entirely though. I don't consider philosophy to be worth so much reading, not when so many important novels exist. Of course unless you happen to be a crazy ass motherfucker reader whose first and foremost hobby is to grab a book...

>>1299602
So porn is ok and social acceptable but hardcore porn is not? You're not only a prude, you're a hypocrite too.

>>1299615

Philosophy is far more "important" than literature.

Literature perhaps exposes and discusses the human condition and can raise issues for debate, but philosophy is so much more. It's what determines the nature of a country's government, for example, and it's what makes people decide their behavioural patterns.

>>1299594
You've proven his point.

>brouser dante

>Philosophy is far more "important" than literature.
Such comparisons are wrongly made.

>>1299849

so does that NM stand for like NiggerMatic or what

>>1299849

I acknowledge their relative importance to individuals, but you have to say, on an objective and more global scale, philosophy impacts more people and is therefore more pertinent at the very least.

>>1299887
Noooooooooooope

Antiquity maybe

either way,

>such comparisons are wrongly made

and fuck you D&E, choke on a cock already.

>>1298937

THIS.

>>1300627
>hostility 4 no reason
What did i ever do to u?

We all know she's a filthy Jewess, right?

>>1300642

I always thought she was a shiksa.

Boner, killed.

>>1299887

But naturally because it draws such a wide scope, it cannot be accurate and account for everything, hence why there is no one definite philosophy on anything, rather a discussion on the motives of people and just a constant argument for and against.

You shouldn't be so focused with analyzing the outside world when truly the world's problems stem from within the individual. Literature and psychology expose that, niggers.

>>1300739

sage for not knowing what discursivity is

>>1300747

"Pity is praised as the virtue of prostitutes.
-Nietzsche

Is virtue a good thing?

>>1300794
"Bitch gave me syphilis."
-Nietzsche

The name 'Grey' came from "The Picture of Dorian Gray"

She's literate and HOT

i dont like porn and im gay but i find her likable which is weird i guess hth

>>1301127
god that's hilarious

how can anyone take that woman seriously?

>>1300823
Too bad she's a raging whore.

Seriously, "liberating women" by turning yourself into a sex object?
Way to go, you dumb whore.

>>1301127
Besides the "artwork"

This is the first time I found her pretty, that's a good angle for her.

>>1301231

Yes, I suppose she does look respectable when she's fully dressed and doesn't have ghetto black cock coming out of her ear

I'm sorry this thread got away from discussing nietzsche

>>1301713
My jaw literally dropped. That smug media whore cunt.

>>1301221
Hipsters like her. Hipsters rule the world.

>>1301717
IT'S THE UNITED STATES, DID YOU HONESTLY EXPECT SOMETHING BETTER?

>>1299589
>dumb people and hipsters like Kafka

fix'd

>>1301727
This thread is one troll after another.


I don't think there's been much good to come out of any Sasha Grey thread on this board to be perfectly honest.

>>1301740
>implying 90% of the Kafka fans under 30 aren't hipsters who only read his works to be hipster (if they've even read it at all)

>>1299507
>mfw having the "choice" to starve to death is freedom
>mfw choosing not to starve to death means you've chosen the alternative and should accept any consequence and should not complain
>mfw choosing to be exploited when other options, except suicide, have been foreclosed = freedom

>>1301749

You have no face?

Also only a radical egoist would call cooperation for mutual gain "exploitation"...

>>1298937
>>1299589
>>1301718
>>1301727
>>1301748
>mfw "hipsters" has come to mean "people I don't like."

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
>reads Nietzsche
Does not mean she comprehends a single thing.

I laughed a lot. Why can't we have more threads like this?

>>1301767

I had no idea this was /lit/ - sasha grey.

Now I am aware.

>>1301762
No, I mean the stereotypical (scandinavian atleast) hipster. They all love Kafka just because that's what you're supposed to do if you're a hipster, even if you haven't read his shit.

Hipsters of other nationalities may like other stuff, but here it's either Kafka, Kerouac or both.

Wheres source on OP's pic?

>>1301794

>sounds to me like some neckbeards are intimidated by a STRONG woman

Have you ever seen her talk? She's like a souless bitch. She says it's because shes professional, when she just looks souless and used. I thank her, she makes me feel normal.

Watch her Hollywood debut directed by Soderberg. Notice the vacuous whore gaze. It happens after a woman has fucked 1000+ men that she just shuts down emotionally. There is nothing left to love.

>>1301992
Keep telling yourself she's not just a whore.

>Nietzsche

>Nietzsche

>>1302000
Did you even watch the movie....?
She plays a hooker so that's kind of expected. And the movie sucks because Soderberg is a hack.