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Has anyone else experienced constant unease or anxiety when trying to self improve? I've been eating well, exercising, reading, meditating, and just generally practicing healthy habits for the past few days and I'm beginning to feel fucking strange. Like I'm a little anxious and neurotic, and I keep getting cold when its not cold at all. What the fuck is going on? Is this a documented phenomena that I have missed due to being a brainlet?

>> No.13001783

"Self-improvement is masturbation. Now self-destruction is the answer."

- karl marx

>> No.13001824

YOU ARE FEELING THE BLEAKNESS OF THE BEACH OF EXCELLENCE, BUT A MERE BREEZE, SINCE OCEANIC TERMINVS STILL CLAMOURS AND WAVES FOR THE HERO.

>> No.13001829

YOU ARE PROBABLY MALNOURISHED.

>> No.13001839

>>13001755
>eating well
>exercising
>jittery/anxious feeling implies elevated stress response, elevated norepinephrine
>feeling cold
Tanked thyroid, start drinking .5-1 liter of orange juice every day upon waking, symptoms should resolve almost immediately if remaining calorie intake is sufficient.

>> No.13001845

>>13001824
>>13001829
Thank you tripfag, maybe you're right. I just ate some oats and fruit though. Plus I have experienced this anxiety more than once, was curious if anyone else was familiar or if I am just eternally fucked.

>> No.13001851

>>13001839
Tanked thyroid? Could be possible I guess, I'll need to look into it. Whats the purpose of the orange juice anon?

>> No.13001868

>>13001845

THE POSTER ABOVE THE REPLY TO WHICH I AM REPLYING MAY BE PARTIALLY CORRECT; IT IS PROBABLE THAT YOUR THYROID GLAND IS HYPOACTIVE, BUT DO NOT INGEST SO MUCH ORANGE, ESPECIALLY EVERY DAY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS ONLY A REMEDY, NOT A SOLUTION; THE SOLUTION TO HYPOTHYROIDISM IS AN IODINE ONE: DAILY INGEST ONE TO TWO DROPS OF IDONIDE SOLUTION AT TWO PERCENT CONCENTRATION, DISSOLVED IN A LITER OF WATER.

>> No.13001869

>>13001851
To replenish you after sleep and regulate the circadian rhythm. I would also evaluate your diet and exercise otherwise as most of the time people adopt counterproductive routines.

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>> No.13001877

>>13001869
Another contributing factor to my problem that I didn't mention is probably my sleep schedule like you mentioned. I usually am all over the board but I've been waking up at 5 am recently and its kind of a shock to my system. I have to go but thanks for the tip I will heed your advice and do some more of my own research.

>> No.13001881

>>13001868
>>13001874
Thanks again friend, will be looked into today when I get home but I gotta go to work.

>> No.13001882

>>13001755
How is this lit related?

>> No.13001902

>>13001868
>regulating circadian rhythm
>replenishing glycogen
>shifting metabolism towards oxidation
>not a solution
Ok kid.
>recommends iodine
This is the very definition of a band aid in the context of hypothyroid, when taken in excess, all it really does is to dump excess thyroid tissue into circulation (even as little as 1mg can lead to elevated TSH). Completely pointless and potentially dangerous to supplement unless you follow some highly restrictive diet paradigm (vegan etc.)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8938107
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11396701
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2576398
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17884933
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4048936
>>13001877
Circadian rhythm and sufficient calories is the most important. Other than that I would take steps towards shifting your metabolism to become aerobic as well as avoid stressors whenever possible. Supplements etc. are contextual and usually not necessary.

>> No.13002026

>>13001755
Perhaps you have addictions you're withdrawing from? Self improvement is good but it's not going to solve your issues/traumas as a person. It's possible that you're seeing anxiety that was already there before. You're just noticing it for the first time because you have a slightly clearer mind. Just be genuine and don't get sucked into escapism. We can grow beyond anything, including crippling anxiety, if we don't fight against it but really look at it.

>> No.13002071

Do you have any goal you’re working towards? I’ve found that Self-improvement with no direction will make you anxious since you’re waiting for something unknown

>> No.13002107

>>13001874
explain this iodine supplement meme? has anyone seen actual results?

>> No.13002113

Yes, I get so obsessed with self-improvement that I start worrying about every single moment I'm not doing my absolute best to further myself (including this). It's especially sad because I know that self-improvement will lead to nothing expect the desire to improve even more. I'm starting to think that death is the only real solution, hopefully through enough improvement I will have the balls to reach it.

>> No.13002187

>>13001824
Lol

>> No.13002208

OP here posting from my phone, thanks for all the advice guys

>> No.13002416

>>13002026
Disregard this poster, escapism is fine, just make sure the escapism is constructive (reading, movies, anime waifu, exercise), and not destructive (masturbation, drugs, alcohol, women).

>> No.13002547

Manage the simulacra *.*

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>>13001755
Unironically your chakras are blocked and you're still carrying with you unresolved trauma from your past.

Self-improvement means very little if you don't have the mental and spiritual space to truly capitalise on growth.

>> No.13002995

>>13002857
how do i even begin to achieve relief from this standpoint then

>> No.13003007

>>13001755
my triceps are too fucking small and it causes me extreme rage

>> No.13003054

>>13002995
Cut down on distractions (tv, vidya, etc.) and processed foods as much as possible.

Manage your life so that eventually you have very little non-essential engagements (parties with nobodies, one-night stands, etc.)

Then, start taking up journaling, writing poetry, writing thoughts down, and so on. Start journaling your dreams. Visit places from your past that still feel like they hold some "weight" to you (an old school, an old workplace, etc.) Just stop and see what emotions come up. Good, bad, sad, happy, it doesn't matter. You're just trying to become aware of them, so you can identify them and let go of them.

What you're essentially trying to do is create as much undisturbed space as possible to let your mind "rest", and then using that space to investigate your psyche (soul) to see what things have been bothering you under the surface.


Also, keep in mind, you are not trying to be an autistic Spartan warrior about this. Don't use brute-force to stop yourself watching Game of Thrones if you really compelled to watch Game of Thrones. This is a passive, natural process (the same way your subconscious acts in a passive, natural way.) But with that being said, don't forget your goal and keep at it every day.

Also, don't be alarmed if you find yourself feeling anxious / afraid randomly on this journey. That's your body's way of telling you you're close to uncovering something, and that you just need to let it come. In fact, it's a necessary part of the process towards letting go of these fears.

You'll find things.

>> No.13003079

I have come to the conclusion that happiness, success and all the rest is not meant for me, as in my personality and disposition can't handle things like that. I thrive best when I am in a position of failure, sadness and so on. It suits me and I think I'm ok with it.

>> No.13003137

>>13001755
You just need to ride it out a little longer to adjust to the new lifestyle. You should be fine within two weeks at the longest.

>> No.13003315

>>13003079
OP here I'm still keeping tabs on the thread and the thought of this terrifies me because I fear I could be the same way.

>> No.13003377

>>13003054
What would you say to someone who lives in the same home since he was born for 28 years?

Don't get me wrong; I work and have travelled a lot; I've changed so much over the past years, full of experiences that even seeing my old school across the block simultaneously brings back memories of childhool while also layers upon layers of recent indexes.

I feel like this microcosm and how I relate to it has taught me a lot about the nature of our world, but I would like to hear another's opinion on this. Is change for the sake of it needed? Is moving one town away, with all it ensues as costs, a move worth making? I'm feeling that most people, instead of going deeper, run constantly; and I feel that even I, recognizing this, must join them

>> No.13003582

>>13003377
I couldn't tell you, anon. I'm honestly not that much more experienced in these things than you.

I will say though that it's a decision you have to make for yourself. Maybe a change of scenery IS what you need right now. Maybe it's the right time in your life to make such a move.

If there's one thing you could do, it would be to pray for guidance. Whether that's to God, or to Jesus, or to Aphrodite, or just to the Universe, I feel it could help you to understand your own questions better. If your heart is open, you'll get an answer, and it may or may not be the one you were expecting. Only you can find out.

>> No.13003695

>>13001755
Impostor syndrome, read up on it

>> No.13003916

>>13001755
I feel the same way. I will do nofap, 30 minutes of daily meditation, cardio every other day, and eat well and eventually I'll hit a wall. I can do a month of living like this without problem then all my trauma and repressed emotions will hit me.

>> No.13004094

>>13001824
Russ, compita, ya estuvo no? Porfavor nomas los haces ver mal a todos. Yo se que miras a tu alrededor y te da asco ver tanta miseria, tanta ignorancia en nuestro pais pobre y violento que se esta undiendo con su propio peso. Y tambien se que por eso miras a los romanos con admiracion, tan eficases y sabios no? Un dia entenderas, te quitaras el trip y shitposterias anonimamente, sin ego, como todos los de mas, pero asta que llege ese dia puedes contar en que responda a todos tus posts con mis lastimas.

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>>13001755
Now I have to admit I'm too tired to read at all, and I bet your problem to be something fucking full of shit.

Go to the shower and sleep. To work tomorrow. No other advice will come.

>> No.13004241

>>13004108
fuck are you on about? respectively

>> No.13004571

>>13001783
that's a fucking wayne gretzky quote you dumbass

>>13001755
OP, you shouldn't take advice from a Saharan typeface enthusiast forum. That said, here's some questions to ask yourself:
how many things are you trying to change all at once?
Why?
would you be ok if you just worked on one thing per year?

make sure you stay hyrated and are getting enough sleep, those things are game changers.

>> No.13006069

>>13001902
>ray peat
What are your staple meals?

>> No.13006093

>>13001755
Your environment (read: diet and behavior) has dramatically changed - in nature this is a danger signal. Continue as you are and it should pass.

It's just the other side to the habit-preserving mechanism you've been struggling to push past before now. Once this new routine embeds itself, you'll feel anxious whenever you don't maintain it.

All those people who whinge about missing gym aren't memeing. They actually do feel discomfort over it.

>> No.13006110

>iodine solution
Lmao, you guys need god and faith, not iodine solution and oranges

>> No.13006137

>>13006110
god's a fucking nigger i shouted in the air and he fell to the ground

>> No.13006337

I'm going through the same thing. I get random anxiety attacks. My hands and feet are cold all the time to the point that they look blueish. The worst symptom of all is my inability to think or concentrate. I've been to the doctor several times to no avail. I'm convinced that it's some kind of mystery illness. Only prevalent in the modern age. Some kind of bio engineered disease perhaps.

>> No.13006395

>>13006337
I've had the same thoughts but ive realized that its a schizo tier concept

>> No.13006521

Set smaller, easier goals to attain and give yourself time to bask and relax in your achievement when you accomplish those goals. This allows you to strive to improve, improve, and then rest while seeking new areas which need work. If you're getting particularly hung up on some facet of improving, try paring it back into steps and tackling them one at a time. If that does not work, shift your focus until you feel ready to try again at the tough things.

>> No.13006588

>>13001755

Something similar but I wouldn't describe it this way
It's more like I begin to resent myself for trying to rise above my station
It's like I'm the only crab in the bucket so I gotta pull myself down

>> No.13006622

Y'all need to stop persecuting yourselves. Why bother? If your so insignificant--by whatever measure you determine that--why are you worth your own ire?

>> No.13006848

>>13006622
anon isn't persecuting himself, he's just feeling anxious. same thing happened to me at the beginning of Lent

>> No.13007116

>>13001755
>the past few days
o....ok

>> No.13009278

>>13001755

Have no thought for the morrow etc. etc.

>> No.13009538

>>13009278
on this thought anyone else really mindful? Like maybe too much

>> No.13009746

>>13001755
>trying to self improve

First off, any time you try to change habits, your body will fight you and win. You will feel like more of a loser than you did before.

Second, 'self-improvement' is pathetic. Fight others for what you want, not yourself, you fucking cuck.

Or at least make yourself useless.

>> No.13009864
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This is what happens when you try to incorporate too many good habits at once. I tried getting in shape, fixing my diet, meditating, nofap, waking up early and all that shit all in the same day and hit a wall after about a week. I did this multiple times and it never worked so a I picked only one and stuck with it. Went to the gym but still fapped like mad and ate disgusting food. Once gym habit stuck(this might take a couple of months) I started cleaning up my diet. Now I got those two down (it took me 2 years for two habits, I'm a piece of shit, I know) but now I can't stop. I will literally miss lose sleep to work out.
Realize you're human, not some super spartan warrior with discipline of steel. Everyone's a lazy piece of shit since there's so much easy instant gratification on the internet. It feels almost counterproductive doing something that is less rewarding in the short run but that is just your dopamine overdosed brain. Take one step at a time, realize it's ok not to be 'all dat' as long as you're trying.