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Where can I find clips of the debate?

pepersun zizik mummummum hurr durrrrr *farrrrrrrrrts*

Wow, incredible take, OP. It‘s definitely not an opinion most people held for years and not something that has been and is being uttered in every possible manner right now in a dozen threads. Thanks for this based thread. Up(you)d.

>>12979550
they're both shite and useless but at least Peterson is handsome, well dressed and promotes antitrannies/fags/feminsts which is a benifit to the world

Honest question: tell me what their dicks look like.

>>12979550
Peterson is a con-artist, he wrote only 2 books, most of his lectures are useless. Except maybe the ones on christianity.

>>12979550
Peterson just got exposed as a dilettante, and a poor one at that.

1) Anyone who has taken a 100 level course on Marx could have given as good or better of a rundown and critique of the Communist Manifesto that Peterson gave.
2) No serious Marxist reads the meme pamphlet Marx wrote for uneducated workers, it's not an academic source, it's a propaganda piece.
3) Peterson, although claiming to have read and understood at least a modicum of Zizek's works, was not able to produce a single meaningful critique of his theory, even going so far as to be impressed with Zizek's take on Christianity
3a) Peterson is in many ways a scholar of religion, in particular Judeo-Christianity; he also critiques Marxism for being an athiest doctrine which rejects these principles. So if Peterson had done so much as read Zizek's wikipedia article, let alone an article on him in an encyclopedia of philosophy, let alone read one of his books on Christianity, he would have known this position and not been impressed by it. It means he didn't even watch Pervert's Guide to Ideology. Incredible lack of research.
4) Peterson did not stick to his position that Marxism was bad, instead retreating to a simple repetition of his individualism (at one point admitting that the heart of the individualism leads to the position that you must do what is best for the community anyways "good enough for you/your family isn't enough" which basically recasts JP's position as individually enlightened Marxism)
5) Peterson hasn't read Critique of the Gotha program which is shorter than the Manifesto and much more important (reminder this intellectual has been arguing against the evils of Marx for decades and hasn't even read him in any meaningful sense since he was 18).
6) By the end, Peterson wasn't even able to formulate an argument against the form of Marxism which Zizek promotes. His only point to the debate which had any relevance was to point out Capitalism's productive force, a fact that he also admits Marx agrees with and discusses at length in the Manifesto.
7) Peterson being pressed on and subsequently not able to name a single postmodern neomarxist needs no explication.

Peterson has been exposed as someone who has no real education (or perhaps intellectual interest) in political theory. I am actually amazed there are people who watched this debate and think Peterson managed even the bare minimum of understanding of both Marxist theory and the historical realities of capitalist dynamics.

>>12979624
Not to even mention that both books were highly derivative, one in the sense that it's Jung reinvented by someone in a manic episode and the second is generic self help for conservatives.

>>12979550
What I found funny was how he shifted his tone 180° during the debate. He starts off with competitive if not hostile tone, throwing around insults; while at the end he was barely able to look Slavoj in the eyes, speaking about how nice it is to have a debate.

>>12979695
And he was touching his ring all the time...like he was nervous.

both are fairly cool in their own ways

>>12979550
Watch him fuck Tammy too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A2UC1YQxy4

Anyone can become a phd in Canada. Canada is pretty much a third world country. His first book is the insane ramblings of a madman. Zizek didn't do anything, what was funny was Peterson looked stupid low IQ and uneducated.

>>12980115
When he visited Slovenia last year, he said it's "a bit overwhelming for him to be the first time in a country that was behind the iron curtain".
Slovenia was part of Yugoslavia and was NOT behind the iron curtain. Tito was also THE ONLY person after ww2 who rebelled against Stalin, which is known as "Cominform". It's not some random detail of forgotten history, it's a very important chapter in it, which also indirectly lead to Non-Aligned Movement. I'd expect more from someone who thinks so highly of himself as JBP.

>>12979654
this could make a good copypasta

>>12980085
Žižek had 4 wifes as I know it. A man has complicated taste.

>CHEE-CHECK

>>12980115
>Gaming youtuber giving opinion on anything
could we fucking not

>>12980115
>thought slime
Disgusting. Why are you even on 4chan if you are a literal SJW? I don't mind socialists or true anarchists, but you're the type of leftist orwell called out in wigan pier.

>>12980115
you could probably extract soi from this man like you do to a maple tree

>>12980115
t. NEET in his mother's basement