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was plato gay or was he just memeing? cause he seems pretty gay.

how am i supposed to take seriously someones advice on manliess or courage when they fuck boys for sport

>> No.12971930

>>12971920
this is why i've never read the greeks

>> No.12971953

>>12971920
The guy on the bottom is gay, not the top.

>> No.12971967

>Not liking fucking boys and twinks in the ass
Pleb.

>> No.12972004

>>12971953
The guy on top is definitely gay too, it just wasn't much of a concept back then. Being on bottom was just socially degrading and not something you wanted other people to find out

>> No.12972034

>>12972004
>The guy on top is definitely gay too
No, he's alpha.

>> No.12972057

>>12971920
He had no concept of a homosexual identity. Pederasty was practiced by high-ranking Athenians as something additional to heterosexual sex and marriage, they considered it more manly than fucking a woman, in fact, because it was an intellectual relationship in which the boy was tutored in philosophy and statesmanship in returned for getting sodomised.

>> No.12972073

>>12972034
Yeah, a gay alpha

>> No.12972081

>>12972057
Sticking the dick between the smooth thighs of a teenage boy isn't technically sodomy

>> No.12972088

>>12972057
In fact, anal sex wasn't exactly widespread. Pederasty was more of a romantic relation and they most often just cuddled and did intercrural sex (sliding the dick between the boy's thighs) rather than actual anal sex which was actually kinda frowned upon.

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12972109

>>12971967
>no aesthetic appreciation of a skinny, young 20s, shaved man's asshole
Doesn't sound like living to me

>> No.12972114

>>12972057
Formally speaking it was intercrural but yeah you can assume that there was a toooooon of rape

>> No.12972116

>>12972109
Some people are plebs. A smooth, round and firm twink butt is what I live for.

>> No.12972134

>>12972057
Sounds kinda gay.

>> No.12972230

>>12971920
Manliness and heterosexuality are different concepts.

>> No.12972332

>>12972230
No they ain't faggot.

>> No.12972345

>>12972332
>ain't
Yes they are, nigger.

>> No.12972418

>>12972345
In a sense they are; as a sexually bimorphic species one of the prime directives of the biologic sex of man is to impregnate human females.

>> No.12972433

>>12971930
Based

>>12971953
t. Buttmuncher

>> No.12972442

>>12972134
Only kinda?

>> No.12972485

>>12972442
A lot more Greeks wrote about how great it was to bang shit tons of women than about men. We focus on the homosexual stuff a lot but we have contextualized it in our modern worldview. The term Gay doesn't only not apply, its non sequitur that context.

>> No.12972486

>>12972116
It's not really nice as a woman's ass though is it?