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Are there any authors similar to Evola out there, like more "Western" traditionalists who focus on action and argue that the ruler/warrior aspect is important?

I have already read Guenon.

>> No.12971345

>>12971336
Bronze Age Mindset. It's not a meme book, read it, it's aimed specifically at "warriors" i.e. it goes in practice on how members of the army should act and was bought by several members of special forces

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They don't have to be strictly traditionalists either.

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Bump for interest but nothing to contribute

>> No.12971361

Guénon argues the opposite though (rightfully so, contrary to Evola who is met with counter exemples in every society and at every age)
But you probably know, just making sure those who haven't read any of them know what to expect and where they differ.

>> No.12971388

>>12971361
I don't think Guenon is right personally. Bertonneau has some interesting essays on it however.

>> No.12971391

>>12971336
What "aspect" you are exactly looking for? Taking action in what way? Perhaps Mein Kampf is more of your deal rather than traditionalist literature or perennialist philosophy (that both Guénon and Evola is)

I hope you understand Evola was bound to a wheelchair most of his adult life: and he simply stated that it did not bother him a bit because his spiritual work remained unaffected.

Are you looking for military disciple or spiritual works, what kind of action? Evola's "Ride the Tiger" was his way of Westernized synthesization of the Eastern "Tantric" way which is essentially a dangerous path, but the most rewarding ( Tantra is like licking honey off of a razor blade )

>> No.12971436

ITT: a bunch of betas who are afraid even of talking with girls acting as if they were warriors preparing themselves to fight in wars to save the west.

>> No.12971465

>>12971436
Post body

>> No.12971471

>>12971465
have sex?

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>>12971471
Post body

>> No.12971558

>>12971436

Right on the throat.

>> No.12971565

OP's pic looks like it is out of a 90's table top rpg manual.

>> No.12971569

>>12971558
Post body

>> No.12971571

>>12971465

Post body, and then post pic with girl.

>> No.12971576

lol fucking gay

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>>12971436
Please, don't shitpost in my thread. We are all samurai here.

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>>12971571

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>>12971614
Now post body

>> No.12971663

>>12971436
t. Has a fat Latina gf

>> No.12971668

>>12971614
>>12971643

Are you Brazilian?

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>>12971336
The SS had libraries full of stuff along these lines. Most of it was burned by the allies after the war but some of it survived and was translated.
Unlike Evola's writing these books/pamphlets don't look at the warrior from above as an idealized form, but are instead motivational texts by warriors for warriors.

>> No.12972160

The Decline of the West by Oswald Spengler
Imperium by Francis Parker Yockey
Might Is Right by Ragnar Redbeard

>> No.12972178

>>12971977
That sounds awesome, is there a good resource on all these somewhere? A list?

>> No.12972189

Oswald Spengler and Francis Parker Yockey are both great.

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>>12971436
I wonder how many of them think small arms and fucking bjj will win them a civil war

>> No.12972377

>>12972369
Post body

>> No.12972408

>>12971336
If what you took away from studying traditionalism is that the warrior is more important than the brahmin then you don't need to worry yourself with reading it. Just find someone smarter and kinder than yourself to follow, and with any luck you can avoid becoming a sociopathic footnote in the story of a failed future despotic regime. Evola gets this wrong too, by the way, most scholars (Nietzsche etc) of the time were basing their ideas off of flawed notions of how eastern societies actually worked, usually because of erroneously translated source material or bad anthropology.

>> No.12972435

>>12972377
His hypocrisy doesn't disprove anything.

>> No.12972441

>>12972408
>of the time were basing their ideas off of flawed notions of how eastern societies actually worked, usually because of erroneously translated source material
>usually because of erroneously translated source material
this

I like Evola but his famous " 'The blood of the heroes is closer to God than the ink of the philosophers and the prayers of the faithful"quote is based on a mistranslated Hadith that says that the prayers will weight more on the scale than the blood of the martyrs... So yes, they will be "closer" to God by virtue of physics alone.

>> No.12972446

>>12972408
You are way less smarter than you think you are.
Possibly a pajeet. I suggest fixing your dumbness if you don't want to get stomped in life.
If you want, I can explain why you are dumb.

>> No.12972448

>>12972408
It may be part of the Oriental destiny or world-spirit to follow a priestly caste slavishly, but I don't think this is the essence of the West. Your emphasis on finding someone "smarter and kinder" to follow is evidence of the kind of blind guru worship I am trying to avoid, not only because of pride or because I think it's inadequate to the West's promethean spirit, but because I think it had the concrete historical effect of creating stagnant slave races like modern Hindus and Chinese.

>> No.12972460

>>12972435
Did you ever was in the military?
Do you have any idea how easy it is to become trained if you are physically fit?
In a civil war scenario you would be ready in 1 month if not less

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>>12972448
That "promethean spirit" you speak of only leads to destruction whereas "stagnation" means plenitude and perpetuity. Just like Atlantide (if you believe in that) and Rome and the current west, revolting kshatriya only lead people to destruction.

It's sad Evola is mostly read by LARPers who want to reclaim the west or something.

>> No.12972612

>>12972178
third dash reich dash books dot com

>> No.12972629

>>12972599
Not that Evola is bad per see, but if read without Guenon it leads to /pol/-tier newpagan fantasizing about being the new Hyperborean.
The Kali Yuga is something real, it's not an abstract idea about "decadence"
You won't save the world.
You can only save yourself and ascend until Christ/Kalki comes back and everyone takes part in the last judgment.
The chosen ones will inhabit the new manvantara/Earth

>> No.12972631

>>12971346
>fascism mean defending your nations against the danger that threaten it
>Start a war to conquer the east, while your fascit daddy join you because he want to create Rome 2.0

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>>12971336
That pic really gives me cancer

>> No.12972819

>>12972599
>reclaim the west or something.

yeah, what a sad goal. god forbid.

>> No.12972876

>>12972664
Are you sure you didn't have cancer before?

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>>12972819
It's a noble sentiment. Just don't base your "goal" upon a school of thought that literaly talks about the end of the world in a religious sense and the west being its catalyst.
The west as an entity won't be saved nor the white race. It will be a collective discrimination. The alt-right and all these kind of new crusaders are part of the equation, not the saviors.

It's as stupid as wanting to create a Marxist state while reading libertarians because they spoke about how capitalism is bad.

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>>12971436
>>12971558
>>12972369
>>leftist basedboy flexing

>> No.12972919

>>12972876
Yep, pretty sure

>> No.12973064

>>12972460
Yes, I was, and no, you wouldn't. Stop LARPing.

>> No.12973183

>>12971391
What's so dangerous about it?

>> No.12973235

>>12971345
>not a meme book
Fuck off. There's nothing traditional about SLut Walks For Men.

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>>12972886
I mean, not to be that guy but like, guns aren't really that important. It's more about block organizing for votes and, yknow, REAL campaigning. Have you ever read Alexander Hamilton, or Thomas Paine?

>> No.12973295
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>>12971336
>People who see their lives as irremediably spoiled cannot find a worth-while purpose in self-advancement. The prospect of an individual career cannot stir them to a mighty effort, nor can it evoke in them faith and a single-minded dedication. They look on self-interest as on something tainted and evil; something unclean and unlucky. Anything undertaken under the auspices of the self seems to them foredoomed. Nothing that has its roots and reasons in the self can be good and noble. Their innermost craving is for a new life—a rebirth—or, failing this, a chance to acquire new elements of pride, confidence, hope, a sense of purpose and worth by an identification with a holy cause. An active mass movement offers them opportunities for both. If they join the movement as full converts they are reborn to a new life in its close-knit collective body, or if attracted as sympathizers they find elements of pride, confidence and purpose by identifying themselves with the efforts, achievements and prospects of the movement.

>The burning conviction that we have a holy duty toward others is often a way of attaching our drowning selves to a passing raft. What looks like giving a hand is often a holding on for dear life. Take away our holy duties and you leave our lives puny and meaningless.

>What surprises one, when listening to the frustrated as they decry the present and all its works, is the enormous joy they derive from doing so. Such delight cannot come from the mere venting of a grievance. There must be something more—and there is. By expatiating upon the incurable baseness and vileness of the times, the frustrated soften their feeling of failure and isolation. … Thus by deprecating the present they acquire a vague sense of equality.