/lit/ - Literature

Maybe he was just into femdom and knew that you can't always rely on the mistress having a well-stocked dungeon

What do you expect from an incel who comes from a family with disfuncional female members and unable to understand or interact with other human beings simple because they have no penis between their legs? He was emotionally unstable, weak and needy. Doesn't take an once out of the merit and brilliance of his work. Authors, even geniuses, are somewhat flawed human beings in one way or another after all. We all are.

>>12937741
>it was only after he put his dick in my ass that i realised i was the icky homo

>>12937767
>The most common "flaws" of genius are misogyny and anti-semitism
Really makes you think huh?

>>12937741
This isn't Nietzsche saying it, an old woman said this to Zarathustra, the whip can be anything that drives women forward like it would drive cattle forward.

>>12937767
>The only thing that differentiates men and females is the presence or absence of a penis
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NIGGA
>>12937766
>ywn be the nietzschemeister and have any potential future romantic relations with females ruined after being conditioned to love femdom through relentlessly domination by your sexually aggressive sister
Just fuckin eternally return me now bros

>>12937792
Is that her? Damn. Women in early photographs never look that attractive.

>>12937741
I'd ask you what's wrong, but I already know the answer. You are a feminized and mind-pozzed modern faggot. You will never understand the world, let alone yourself.

>>12937802
I think she was fine as hell, and her racism and fanatical anti-semitism only make her exponentially hotter tbqh.

>>12937792

It was obviously an over-simplified statement for the sole purpose of hyperbole. It's commonplace knowledge that gender is a dynamic pattern of behaviour influenced by the social characteriatics of it's time. And I think there's a valid point in misoginy (as well as androginy) as long as you understand that gender is a societal construct that reflects the flawed society in which said genders are developed, and not an inherent metaphysical quality acquired at birth based on your genitalia. Nietzsche could not do it (separate the idea of feminity as it is understood today, from the human beings caged in said abstract cathegory), hence his flaw.

>>12937780

Not really. It really depends on the genius and the flaw itself. If you really believe may from of broad over-generalization being it in the form of sexism or anti-semitism is to be intelectually praised you're doing a poor favor to your critical judgement. There are plenty of reasons to intelectually attack the idea of feminity as it is understood nowadays (the passive-agressive social behavioural patterns, the teaching of a submissive ethos that breeds weak individuals among half of our population, the praise of emotionally based decisions as a way of expressing personality and/or individuality) but there are as many reasons to attack the idea of contemporanean masculinity (the validity of the term "toxic masculinity" of which we see many of it's effects in these imageboards is undeniable) but attacking the individuals themselves for being born into said unfortunate circumstances, or adscribing some form of moral responsability for it is simply put moronic. And anti-semitism is just the same, any rational who stares at and analizes the faux state of Israel will eventually get called an anti-semitist for expressing the reality of said situation (might have happened in the US recently with senator Kamala Harris? I'm not american nor anglo so excuse my dilettante-level of knowledge in american politics and my probable awkward phrasing).

>>12937898

Any form* not "may from"

>>12937898
nigga shut up. All your words put together offer zero meaning and value. Why do idiots do this? And of course the infamous self deprecatory bit at the end acting as a covert criticism shield. You're doing much better than a lot of idiots out there, but I still wish you would stop being a faggot. Maybe for an hour today? Then try another hour couple days from now, increment it as you go and you'll be straight in due time. If not for yourself, then for me, an anonymous poster that hates faggots.

>>12937767
>>12937898
paid shill

>>12937993
>All your words put together offer zero meaning and value
His post was perfectly sensible. I think you might just be a brainlet.

The whip was meant for the man himself, not to give in to his sexual desires but finding a woman to create worthy offspring - he should restrain himself using the whip. The old lady who gives the advice is actually wisdom.


Sources:
The Gay Science
Human, All Too Human

Propably one of the most misquoted sentence of Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Of course, nobody on /lit/ ever picks up a book so we end up with this shitfest of a thread.

>>12937858
I don't understand. What is societal here and what is metaphysical?

>>12937741
how should you handle feminine little boys trying to live in a man's world?

>>12938172
Exactly. Wasn't hard for me to understand while reading it DESU.

>>12938192
he is saying that there's no metaphysics

>>12937766
>>12937792
Salome didn't help things

>Thou goest to women? Do not forget thy whip!
>Thou
>goest
>thy

God I hade this tryhardshit.

>>12938171
>His post was perfectly sensible
duh, that’s how you can tell it’s meaningless

>>12937858
>muh nature vs nurture
>testosterone totally doesn't increase competetive tendency

>>12937776
>my friends see my reading the gay science
>give me funny looks
>couple weeks later see me reading ecce HOMO
>they think im gay now
i wish i was joking

>>12939330
The original text if perfectly plain, modern German, I have no idea why someone would translate it that way.

>>12939543
Even thovgh it is good german it is not ancient german thats trve.

I highly svspect anglo larping.

>>12939559
stop doing that

>>12939500

>>12938171
Spotted the faggot

>>12937792

that 5head screams that she's a smarty

Can't remember what book this is from probably beyond good n evil. Nonetheless, quite based

>>12937741
Women like to be told what to do. That's all it means.

>>12937792
>nietzsche chose the jews over *this*

he truly was insane

>>12941104
Is he implying here that we all want to dominate and own and control women to some degree?

>>12937898
>really makes you think
>no it doesn't
>proceeds to rationalize this hard

Tldr

Women love a rough fug

>>12937741
He didn't, it was an old woman who said that /to/ Zarathustra.

no offense to nietzsche but did a woman ever voluntarily lie in bed with him? why was socrates the only philosopher who managed to be married?

>>12941634
Based

>>12937741
>Thus spake Zarathustra.
Somebody should really do a NO FEAR version of Nietzsche. This dude derives a lot of his mystery from his weird sentences.

>>12937792
>I think there's a valid point in misoginy (as well as androginy
loving every laugh
>gender is a societal construct that reflects the flawed society in which said genders are developed, and not an inherent metaphysical quality acquired at birth based on your genitalia
it's physical, based on the set of chromosomes providing for different genes to be expressed, with male genes for the male and not for the female of the species, first the external and internal genitalia show up then secondary sexual characteristics follow suit
your life is a lie

>>12942625
Sure, prostitutes. 19th century women who weren't whores couldn't fuck around because it would ruin their lives. Getting laid regularly without paying for it or being married wasn't a thing at the time.