/lit/ - Literature

To pick up books, yes. If I manage to do that, however, I tend to binge reade as self-medication.

Like now I've been in bed for a week but managed to read lots of Tsehov and Poe because they were on my bedside.

>>12932729
ocd. i dont like reading if i feel like the experience isnt optimal. sounds pretentious but its not something i like, just hellish. i avoid reading if im tired, have bad concentration, if theres too many people around the house, if its noisy, if im too sick, if something has put me in the wrong mood etc. hell. hell. hell. hell. hell.

say "I'm going to read only 5 pages per day" and then do it religiously

I can't read or write for fun unless I do nofap. Just won't do it.

>>12932813
imagine unironically doing nofap

>>12932813
iktf, the high I get from retaining semen after 3-4 days is some extraordinary stuff

>>12932813
>>12932866
i cant tell if this is a joke at this point. fucking pathetic

>>12932875
t. prolactin overloaded lagard slave to sexual whims who'll never amount to anything

>>12932880
I dunno anon, you're the one that can't even read a book without thinking about jerking off

>>12932899
I can read, just not as enjoyable or as productively. Might as well not even do it.

>>12932875
t.Louis CK

>>12932915
i don't know who or what that is

>>12932813
true. after i cum, i am pretty much incapable of doing anything serious for about two days unless i force myself to, and i have no motivation for it and certainly don’t enjoy it. however, the third day i wake up again motivated to read and study and feel guilty and left behind, so i enter a very productive period that gradually gets more and more productive until the energy from abstinence becomes too strong and i think to myself one night, hey just once in a week won’t do me wrong, and then the cycle repeats

at least i’ve improved and masturbate max once a week. don’t know what i’ll do if i get into a relationship. back when i had a gf and would fuck her probably 5 times a week or so i had 0 natural motivation and would only be motivated by her

>>12932729
<3 Great job, anon! That's 3 more books than I've read, this year. I'm quite depressed, too. And I feel the very same - it doesn't feel rewarding to read, or dedicate oneself to any activity, if one feels hollow regardless. And it might be better to fix our issues of mood before we attempt to engage in these activities in any serious manner, otherwise we'll never see our best selves in them. I wish you all the best, my friend. Take care <3

>>12932729
I'm a depressed NEET with no friends which is why I read regularly. Just think of all the time you waste doing useless shit like posting on 4chan, playing vidya, or whatever you do in your pastime, and redirect that energy to reading instead. Try avoid reading books that are out of your depth or if you find your mind drifting off read a different book and come back to the first one later.

>>12932957
i have an hour and a half each way bus commute to work 5 days a week, plus bus time to anything else i have to go do. stop driving and read more basically.

>>12932926
Same.
It's just so abstract of a feeling, and yet I can pinpoint it so well to its sole cause.
The days following a fap are the worst.
Zero energy, nothing is interesting, I spend all day staring at the 4chan catalog without even engaging in threads, mindlessly refreshing endless feed-type websites like twitter or 4chan itself.
Nothing feels gratifying, be it games, music, reading, nothing.

And then somedays pass and I'm reborn.
I'm a new man, I want to engage, I want to talk to people, make myself known. But most importantly I want to CREATE, I rush to my piano, I practice, I organize stuff with friends, it's like the chains of languid sloth have fallen off me.
I feel invincible.
But the feeling piles up.
At one point you inevitably reach idleness, a point where you feel like, after days, you're "earned a break".
A titillating image you see by accident in a thread seals the deal.
You fap.
And like your previous self had been nothing more than a lie, you're thrown back into the abyss of mediocrity.

>>12933005
This. It's almost like sexual abstinence is being on a stimulant. Everything about life is better, HD.

>>12933005
lmao dude just go outside

stop blaming your dick for your depression when the real cause is spending all day on the internet

>>12933027
fapping and watching porn fucks up your brain nigger

>>12933027
>lmao dude just go outside
But I do, it just sucks and feels incredibly uninteresting if I've fapped recently.
I'm not a shut-in, I'm the main organizer of events in my social circle, and my typical week includes at least 2-3 "things" I'm at the center of.
It's just that there's an enormous difference in pleasure taken from such activities when I haven't masturbated the previous day(s).

When I have, the whole event feels like a chore. I don't want to be there, I don't feel like I'm enjoying myself or conversations, I have no interest in new people I meet.
Meanwhile, the complete opposite happens on abstinence.
I relish the opportunity to be with people, I love everything I'm doing, I'm more talkative and proactive and make a much better impression on new people.

I'm not saying it has to be like this for everyone.
But it is for ME (and I'm guessing that other anon too), and the way I can't keep my hands off myself no matter how hard I hate it makes me feel like a crack addict.
Because I am, pretty much.

>>12933005
holy shit is this a pasta

>>12933055
>lmao people seriously write long posts about their condition
>on /lit/!!!

>>12933027
>>12933055
>>12932846
I'll never understand the violent knee-jerk reaction people have every time someone so much as mentions they might have a better time with life when not spending a nice chunk of it masturbating and idling.
Like, keep masturbating if you like, why does it bother you so much that some people feel happier when they don't?

>>12933053
I've never had the self—discipline required for no fap. I always end up jerking off at least three times a day. At this point my dick is raw, and I feel like I'm dead all the time. All I do is sit at the computer.

>>12933073
I can't either, man.
Those feelings I'm describing are just the 3-4 days of clarity I get when, by pure accident, I manage to hold off the addiction for a bit.
But it inevitably comes back.
It always does.

>>12933055
>>12933027
>>12932846
Hello Jews

>>12933005
exactly what happens to me. i wonder if it’s a universal feature in men or if it’s just a few of us. i’m also prone to neuroticism and depression so i figure that my dopamine baseline is already low, so masturbation drops me to a dysfunctional level. a couple of years ago i looked into it and somebody told me that it goes away as you get older.

the days after i cum are so goddamn toxic it’s unbelievable. i’ll browse through pol and other toxic places and be full of negativity and anger. it’s like, being in that drained state, only anger and hopelessness attract and entertain me. i also look up horror movies, read about sp00ky stuff, etc. I just recently escaped one of those states (came 2 days ago)

i’m 100% convinced that cumming has to do with it, and not even masturbating 3 times a day. literally once is enough to take me out for a couple of days. unbelievable

in a normal state i only browse lit and mus, and only for a couple of minutes in between study periods.

>>12933055
t. Bugman who cannot contemplate a life without that "friction of a piece of gut and, following a sort of convulsion, the expulsion of some mucus".

>>12933080

>>12933090
>i’ll browse through pol and other toxic places and be full of negativity and anger. it’s like, being in that drained state, only anger and hopelessness attract and entertain me. i also look up horror movies, read about sp00ky stuff, etc.
Dude what the fuck, same.
90% of the time I spend on the SCP site is in the post-fap haze.

>>12933093
mirin' that absolute unit

>>12933093
Seeth you disgusting hound

I read regularly because I’m depressed

>>12933110

Pic rel, and most of the ones on my currently reading are at least half read.
I'm so depressed I lost interest in everything else. I can't even stand the internet much anymore, even /lit/ is barely tolerable.

>>12933097
also should be noted that many cultures and civilizations interpreted masturbation and cumming as shameful, in males, specifically.

for females, it is shameful because it makes you of lower value to other men, but i genuinely think that females a. don’t suffer nearly the same physical side effects as a male and that b. females enjoy sex more.

females enter a strange state of irrationality when they are sexually attracted to a male that is extremely animalistic and causes them to do all sorts of strange and risky things they wouldn’t do otherwise. even high IQ females. i had an ex who was 99th percentile (2300+ SAT) and always tried to seem feminine and professional but would say crazy things in bed, like she fantasized about me taking her against her will before we started dating, she wanted me to hit her during sex, etc

hell i don’t really enjoy sex as much as i like the idea of being desired by a woman and dominating her. the actual sexual activity i only really do because it’s an expression of masculinity and bc it makes them desire me even more. i don’t think females think about these things during sex itself; it’s genuinely an incredible physical pleasure for them

>>12933130
>a couple anons trying to find community in their struggles with addiction and the way their lives could be better if they freed themselves of it
>somehow this is an alt-right thing
I don't understand

>>12933132
caesar writes that one of the worst and most effeminizing sins in Germanic society was to have sexual contact with women before ~21, and also that they banned alcohol and imports from the gauls and the romans because it was too civilizing and effeminizing

>>12932729
what a surprise blogfags don't read and just use literary culture as an excuse to talk about themselves or whatever nonliterature controversy of the day

>>12933132
>the actual sexual activity i only really do because it’s an expression of masculinity and bc it makes them desire me even more.
I don't think I've ever enjoyed sex thus far.
I've had the opportunity to reach such a point with three separate ladies, and yet every time I was so concerned with "performing well" that the whole thing felt like a grueling job interview more than an actual act of pleasure.
Of course they were none the wiser, but every time I'm felt feeling emptier and like nothing in life is worth pursuing outside of myself.

>>12933071
Okay, to be serious, I'm not trying to discourage people from doing no fap, i do not care.
I just wonder what kind of piece of shit you have to be to sit at your computer all day and play video games and masturbate and then wonder why you feel like shit, and then blame it on a "prolactin overload" or something.
It's just reddit pseudo science bullshit by people who usually just want to be desired more by women, and then preach abstinence on 4chan threads cause they haven't masturbated for 3 days, as if that is some incredible feat. As the other anon said, "dude just go outside"
>>12933132
that's because all women are whores, anon.

>>12933170
What's pseudoscience is people who think sexual activity is a biological free lunch.

>>12933152
protip women think it’s gay if a man ‘tries to please them’ during sex. this is just a nuemale meme that actual females subconsciously ridicule.

don’t think about pleasing a female during sex. think entirely about yourself and about how great you are having this girl wanting to be fucked by you and take your pleasure.

don’t perform oral sex or try to get the girl to orgasm any of that gay shit. it’ll just turn the girl off. just take your pleasure and fuck her however you want. i can guarantee that it’s what it’ll turn her on. not being some gay soiiboy who cares what she thinks.

the physical pleasure of sex for a female corresponds directly with how masculine she perceived the male, not necessarily what he’s doing

and don’t ever comment, apologize, or ask about penis size, how long you can last, etc. if she says anything about act like you don’t care

>>12933170
While I'll agree with you that such people's problems rarely boil down to just "I masturbate", masturbation is undeniably an exacerbator of such troubles.
The dopamine addiction and subsequent comedowns from it aren't "pseudoscience".
And while their influence may be exaggerated by people who wish to push all of their troubles on masturbation, it is undeniable that it can be the fatal arbiter between a satisfying life and a mediocre one for subjects already on the brink.

>>12933200
have sex

someone post chasteanon's posts

>>12933170
>that's because all women are whores, anon

they are whores in that they intensely desire and enjoy sex but those with any sort of degree of self-control are at least somewhat aware of it and don’t just fuck every attractive guy they meet

contrary to 4chan memes there are many college age girls who have either never had sex or have had it only with a few serious partners

just don’t go to clubs or on tinder to find girls because you’ll only meet low time preference hoes

a life without a family, which means having a wife, is tolerable for some autists, but for the average guy it’s empty

>>12932729
ahem. i rarely read under 100 pages a day. it takes about one and a half hours to read 100 pages, you surely can do it instead of rotting your brains out on lit.

>>12933140
see
>>12933080

>>12933071
>I'll never understand the violent knee-jerk reaction people have every time someone so much as mentions they might have a better time with life when not spending a nice chunk of it masturbating and idling.
Anon, take a look at this thread. Nofappers aren't just casually mentioning that they don't fap, they're talking about it so intensely that this thread is now basically a no-fap discussion thread even though it has little to do with the OP.

>>12933207
>it can be the fatal arbiter between a satisfying life and a mediocre one for subjects already on the brink.
This is a very fair point well made, anon. I would certainly agree with you on this.

>>12933290
I am glad we could reach a common point between our fundamentally opposite positions.

>>12932729
I-I can still do it...

>>12933288
I disagree that the thread is completely unrelated, I'd venture to claim that a lot of people on this board are afflicted by the same malady.
The intensity you speak of is the same you'd see if you ventured in addiction threads on 420 chan or similar venues.
A life of normalcy is an incredibly radiant thing to the derelict.

You fucking weirdos.

>>12933356
I don't think that proves much, you could run a google search in the format of "hobby + depression" and come up with thousands of results for literally anything.
Depressed people wish to be "saved" by something, and that ends up being some kind of accessible hobby most of the time.

>>12933362
>Depressed people wish to be "saved" by something
What did you do, rip this feel straight out of my heart?

>>12933432
No.
I did it out of mine

>>12933308
because masturbation and sex ruined my life

>>12933472
meant to reply to the other guy

>>12933435
It's painful.

>>12932763
Fuck me too bro
It's fucking hell I want out

>>12932813
Holy crap so true. I'm much more artistic when I abstain

>>12933080
>going outside is Jewish
The absolute state of /pol/fags

>>12933065
This but unironically

:(

faggot

>>12933071
Brother it’s 5-25 minutes a couples times a week, don’t act like you’re too busy to do that.

>>12934284
It's not the time of doing it. It's the time of the consequences that follow. Indulging for 15 minutes costs 16 hours of apathy.