/lit/ - Literature

>>12923285
By this reasoning, men should not either since they contribute to the life creation process. Nor are they involved in any any life taking process necessary to the continuation of the human race that would justify them being involved in war.

So none should go war. Ehi it turns out we agree, OP.

>>12923285
It is enough for me to hear someone talk sincerely about ideals, about the future, about philosophy, to hear him say “we" with a certain inflection of assurance, to hear him invoke "others" and regard himself as their interpreter - for me to consider him my enemy

>>12923285
There should be no army.

>>12923301
>human race
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/race
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/species

>should
there we go again deriving oughts from is

>>12923285
War is suffering. Life is also suffering. Women should experience what they create.

War is the prerequisite for greatness my friends and the will to greatness exists only in men.

>>12923322
It will naturally scale back butterfly.

You are so cute *smooch* don’t do anything with anyone :3

>>12923325
You forgot your smug anime girl pic.

Women slaughtering nazis is hot
You can't argue against this

>>12923384
I absolutely agree.

>>12923384
stop perpetuating the idea that nazism is the ontological center of evil. By doing this you are contributing to neoliberalism.

>>12923384
>>12923390

Have you read the Nationalist yet?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kP9kq_AoDxhEjEPpkpMajw9Teq7qnyrsYFruYzYPU2Y/edit?usp=sharing

>>12923397
>shitposting with soviet snipers
>contributing to neoliberalism

>>12923384
Women nazis are also hot
now how can we combine these two things.....

We have abandoned sociality long ago, retard. Our social institutions are no longer ideological. Engaging in theorizing like this is pointless. Moral claims about freedom, rights and sentimentalism are the only acceptable public discourse. The arguments you are spouting, in the view of normies, is restricting womans freedom to join the military. The purpose of the military, according to the same normies, is to liberate oppressed peoples, grant them rights, and stop their suffering, to fight for justice worldwide. In actuality, of course, the military is just a tool of elites behind the curtains to perpetuate power. The most capable people will join the military and advance this goal. There is no interest in respecting nature, social cohesion, or any given meta narrative that lies outside of this post-liberal pragmatism for that matter.

>>12923285
If women want the right to vote they are obligated to fight. They can be a protected class, OR have political equality, but NOT both. That would be immoral.

>>12923430
unfortunately nazis didn't allow women fighting in the frontlines, which shows that their ideology is inferior

>>12923285
not all army jobs are about killing people, there´s also logistics and medical care

>>12923519

Every Army job is about killing people, leg.

>>12923539

Hearts and minds dumbfuck

>>12923497
*superior

bolshevism is glorified destructiveness, degeneration and inferiority in every way possible.

>>12923539
No, that's the Marines.

>>12923285
Go back to /r9k/.

>>12923545

Then why don't we send in the State Deparment and the Peace Corp, dumbfuck!

Every soldier goes through basic training without exception. They learn to shoot their rifle, the SAW, the M203, the Claymore, and the LAW.

Does the Peace Corp do that?

This is the kind of sophistry that leads to mission creep. If you don't want to kill someone, then don't use the Army.

Hearts and Minds is a strategy so that you don't have to kill as many.

And Oh? By the way? How's that working out for the military in the Middle East?

HAM is a strategy: You have to wipe out the ideology, the identity, and the patterns that led to your enemies rise, otherwise they just come back.

But to say that the military isn't about killing people is like saying that a soldier isn't about killing people because his dick or her pussy is used for love.
All parts are geared towards the killing of the enemy.

And those in the military who can't abide that need to get out.

>>12923454
Or they can be privileged class, like they've been since the 20th century

>>12923285
Women can help the war effort by freeing up manpower for combat roles like infantry and panzers.

Just shove the women into logistical, support, etc roles. They will be able to perform their duties just as well as any man could. Although on the frontline, they may potentially have issues.

>>12923630
really they ought to be, natural law dictates.

>>12923649

And where is the "front line" in today's wars, Mr. Clausewitz?

This is just rank sexism. I have fought along side women, and they kill people just as effectively as men. I have watched men fall out while women kept up. I have watched women do breathtakingly brave things.

I would rather have a volunteer military of women than a conscripted military of men any day.

>>12923285
No one should be forced to be in the army and take lives of people they don't know, who didn't do any harm to them personally.

If politicians want a war, they must fight to death on pocket knives with each other. The winner's country wins.

>>12923663
>things that never happened

>>12923285
Nobody should be forced to be in the army and kill people, desu.

>>12923663
Those women were Navy SEALS, too, weren't they..?

honk, honk ;-)

>>12923676

Pussy onions boi who never served except in Star Fleet.

>>12923285
Lmao I love when conservatives act as if they give a fuck about people dying in war. Women shouldn't be out in the battlefield but men should? What a retarded narrative.

>>12923397
>ree I didn't graduate from high school and I'm angry that I can't demand inflated wages for unskilled work like my grandpappy did

>>12923285
>Women give life
They do it all by themselves, do they? Also that's an "is" statement.

>should not take it
This is an "ought" statement. I fail to see how the ought follows from the is. Please show me.

>>12923678
what if the alternative is your country falling to the vile huns

>>12923702
>ree I didn't graduate from high school and I'm angry that I can't demand inflated wages for unskilled work like my grandpappy did
i did graduate from high school

>>12923713
when im against violence and war everybody in the world will be against it too because we are all the same and everybody thinks alike. nobody will use it as a weakness against me.

>>12923713
well, in that case there's not much else you can do

>>12923733
what if one country does something naughty (that can still happen, even if you all think the same)

>>12923678
I agree, but these are the days of the Kali Yuga, more's the pity, and in the sort of clown world we are living in I am sad to say that violence is bound to continue to be a factor...

>>12923740
hmm, philosophy is pretty useless when you face the facts

What the fuck kind of reasoning is that. this is basically "the sky is blue so it's secretly another ocean" tier

>>12923749
Reminder that the people who came up with the Kali Yuga thought they were experiencing it too, thousands of years ago. Most religions think they're nearer to the end of days than not, because they rely on despairing doomers like yourself for adherents.

Nah if they want equality let em have it, if women think if theyre in charge there wouldnt be wars than they dont know shit about history

>>12923663
The front line IS increasingly becoming more and more non-existent thanks to drone strikes and other technological innovations.

I think a woman could easily do 95% of what the average man could do in the military, especially now.

>>12923285
My world view is that women are like little sisters in Bioshock: they serve an important function in society and should be protected like princesses guarded by a big daddy or knight, but not a white knight who is guided by pussy but a gold knight who lives by virtue alone.

Religion would be the guiding force as demonstrated in Bioshock 2 when it's revealed how Little Sisters see the world in a saccharine view to make life worth living in a battle between good and evil.

>>12923322
I hope I get to lick the cum out of your boipussi when the bulls are done with you :3
>>12923348
stop pretending to be me!

>>12923626
100% anon. The military is today is process oriented, NOT results oriented. The purpose of the military is to win wars and they have failed in this purpose as long as I have been alive. Bunch of selfish bureaucrats - actual welfare queens (the ones who make it a career (newsflash you are a psycho if you make the military a career, reinstate the draft if a war is actually necessary and declared by congress)) who hilariously believe they are conservative.

>>12923397
>By doing this you are contributing to neoliberalism.
But neoliberals are the kind of people that say communism is worse than fascism.

Whats it like being in the military in countries that haven't gone to war for a long time? must be a pretty comfy gig

>>12923285
Pretty misogynistic. Women should be given the same rights and duties as men and that includes warfare and conscription.

>>12923390

Yeah it was probably great fun when Ivan ran outta kraut and Polish women and decided to rape her instead

>>12925597

you have no idea who she is and that's a pity